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I think we need to rally as a community against samsung and att for lying about the memory in the captivate.
Sounds like a waste of money. They never said 512MB FREE FOR YOU TO TOTALLY USE!
Or else every Android phone and their companies should get sued.
A lot of your memory is being used by the OS, system cache and more. Have you ever really ran out of memory? I haven't.
Android is basically designed to never run out of memory; as it stores all programs in memory to load faster - it also ends "not in use" programs as soon as more RAM is needed for a new application.
When I buy something and it says it has "such and such" RAM, I never expect to be able to actually use it all. I sure wish OS's and hardware didn't need RAM to run.... and besides, 300 Megs free for personal use is more than enough for a hand held device to run. Even if I loaded my entire list of apps into the ram I would still have room.
Surely the first post was "tongue in cheek"
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You will never have 300 megs for "personal use." A fresh kill of all apps gives me 123MBs free. I run out of memory all the time. Just today I was using the youtube app and browser and it totally locked up until I manually closed some programs.
Being that pc manufacturers have been doing this for years with on board video (and they even double do by starting the ram and the vram), you would never have a chance.
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Did Samsung/ATT ever say that you would have 512MB of memory available to the user? If they did then I think you might have a case. But considering that Samsung went as far as creating videos explaining why the GT-I9000 doesn't show the whole 512MB (http://bit.ly/djxJ3r - guessing similar videos exist for the US variants), I don't think you'd stand a chance. Unless some sales rep. lied his/her way into a commission.
If you want something to go after them for, go after them for unreliable and often non-functional GPS that was not advertised as a crippled feature.
Even then, I would recommend waiting for the official Froyo release to give them enough chance to get a formal effort out there. I tend to think the OTA update that went out was more to turn off features AT&T doesn't want us to have for free (tethering) than it was a GPS fix. I hold the opinion that the GPS part was more of their work in progress that they tossed in there to get folks to want to give up their free tethering.
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Surely the first post was "tongue in cheek"
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With the way people complain and want to sue over everything nowadays it's really hard to tell. Sarcasm truly is lost when typed.
lol its just advertising, while it mte not be entirely true, they are still covered..
Nowhere in the OS (Eclair OR Froyo) does it ever break down memory that totals the 512MB mentioned on the packaging. In all versions I've used the total amount of memory available has been in the 300MB range. I understand on an intellectual level that the OS and other vital functions need to reside in some memory so it may not ever be "free," but I'd like to be assured by the software that that memory IS in fact being allocated and is not just a fictional number made up by Samsung advertising. for all I know the Captivate COULD only have the 300-ish MB that it claims and the OS uses up a portion of that. Also, there has got to be something fishy going on, because before 2.2, Android could NOT utilize 512MB of RAM, and from my understanding, would not even be able to display it had more then that. If this is true, then why is Froyo showing that it's using the same amount of the 300MB free that Eclair used? wouldn't it have SOME amount more free than the eclair version?
Either there is a bug with the memory (display or usage), or the Captivate does not have the memory it was advertised to have.
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You will never have 300 megs for "personal use." A fresh kill of all apps gives me 123MBs free. I run out of memory all the time. Just today I was using the youtube app and browser and it totally locked up until I manually closed some programs.
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Perhaps my first estimate was incorrect, but I just did a task kill and got 200 of my 305 available free, so I will correct myself and say 200 for "personal use" which I still think is more than enough. I have never had the browser crash except when trying to play flash games and I have never run out of memory, even when pausing playing a 720p video to check a flash heavy website, load up a few hundreds texts, and browse the gallery to show people pictures. I think android manages the memory quite well.
Other phones like the nexus 1 have the full 512mb available as advertised & have had it available on both 2.1 & 2.2 why is this different for us galaxy s users? Does it even say anywhere official that it is supposed to have 512mb it doesn't say that anywhere on the box or in anywhere in the included text or on att's website or samsungs. It doesn't say it doesn't either. I know this sounds disappointing but lets face the facts this phone isn't all that it was hyped up to be. Not to mention that it also claims it has gps but I have tried everything & have still never been able to lock on to a satellite for more than a couple of seconds.
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Yeah! And after that we can go after the base 1000 HDD scam too!
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Other phones like the nexus 1 have the full 512mb available as advertised & have had it available on both 2.1 & 2.2 why is this different for us galaxy s users? Does it even say anywhere official that it is supposed to have 512mb it doesn't say that anywhere on the box or in anywhere in the included text or on att's website or samsungs. It doesn't say it doesn't either. I know this sounds disappointing but lets face the facts this phone isn't all that it was hyped up to be. Not to mention that it also claims it has gps but I have tried everything & have still never been able to lock on to a satellite for more than a couple of seconds.
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http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SGH-I897ZKAATT-features
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16GB ROM/512MB RAM
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I think we need to rally as a community against samsung and att for lying about the memory in the captivate.
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Where is the lie? My phone is spec'd at having 512mb of RAM and 16GB flash memory. I have that.
Does your phone have something different?
If it does, you should return it and ask for a replacement or get a refund. What would a lawsuit accomplish? Were you harmed? Did the phone catch fire in your pocket due to this defect?
I bet Jackie Childs would take this case.
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Where is the lie? My phone is spec'd at having 512mb of RAM and 16GB flash memory. I have that.
Does your phone have something different?
If it does, you should return it and ask for a replacement or get a refund. What would a lawsuit accomplish? Were you harmed? Did the phone catch fire in your pocket due to this defect?
I bet Jackie Childs would take this case.
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Where in the OS does it tell you that you have 512MB of RAM?
I don't post unless absolutely necessary, but this thread has irritated me beyond the point.
How about, instead of whining about a memory problem when all that has been used on this phone so far is Eclair (no himem) and a LEAKED super-beta may-not-even-be-close-to-release Froyo, you either:
A) Stop trying to get a rise out of a community. Honestly, if we had as many hands on deck as we do cattle around here, the Captivate would be ::the:: phone to have, with many ROMs, mods, apps, etc.
B) Return your Captivate and never come back here again. No one misses whiners.
C) Actually understand that the reason why you dont see that much RAM is because the physical chip is 512MB RAM. Its not for you to use, and you could consider yourself lucky that a phone with as high of specs it has, just might have to use more RAM! I suggest you read RyanZA's thread on RFS and to explain to yourself how FSYNC and its security checks work with RAM.
D) I'm done. If you want to flame me about it, go ahead. But I'm sick and tired of people purchasing a phone then whining about it and threatening the lawyers when SOME people are perfectly content with this phone just how it is. Honestly. Go get an iPhone4 or wait for a Samsung Tab, or go get a Dell Streak and put Eclair on it. Just STOP whining.
No wonder the devs don't want to do work for this smartphone.
Good god..
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Where in the OS does it tell you that you have 512MB of RAM?
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It doesn't say it in the OS - but that doesn't mean it isn't there.
I guess the teardown sites could be fooled, and Samsung could be lying to everyone.
The most logical explanation to me, is that the 512MB is there - I don't think we have a 300ish MB chip.
I caught one with 190MB application storage which is unacceptable for most.
I use MT4 and NS instead of nexus one because of that. Don't ever think app2SD helps because it won't work when the phone is in USB mass storage mode or memory card is removed.
I had about the same until I started adding some of my apps to the phone. I can't even add all my apps because of the internal storage. Can't wait for root and some Roms (CyanogenMod 7).
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Man this thing is pissing me off. I can't even install half the apps I had installed on my original Vibrant.
T-mobile should give us options on installing apps as soon as we turn it on. They just throw **** we won't use on the phone and call it a day. Now what if we had no devs nor root or anything like that? Look at what we would be stuck with. In that case people would just return the phone.
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T-mobile should give us options on installing apps as soon as we turn it on. They just throw **** we won't use on the phone and call it a day. Now what if we had no devs nor root or anything like that? Look at what we would be stuck with. In that case people would just return the phone.
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We can use Titanium Backup to freeze those apps for now right?
Well yeah if you have root access.
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Well yeah if you have root access.
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Cool I rooted it and have Titanium Backup installed. Just no CWM yet for ROM Manager.
I have all my appz installed with no issue... honestly 16gb onboard made the vibrant slow. im glad to have less... and I can install as many apps to my sd card as i want.
I see someone has said they have over 500mb of internal, how is that possible and why is mine not the same?
I'm on live chat with T-Mobile right now. The lady just told me...
"Okay, thank you for that information. There definitely seems to be an issue here. I am looking further into this"
So obviously there is a problem
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I'm on live chat with T-Mobile right now. The lady just told me...
"Okay, thank you for that information. There definitely seems to be an issue here. I am looking further into this"
So obviously there is a problem
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Ok cool, let us know what's going on. I have a total of 539MB internal storage.
Specs says 1GB! I read that off phonedog I think.
"You should definitley have more memory than what you are showing. I can get you the manufacturers information. Since it is a Samsung device their support teams will definitely be able to assist you a little better than us at the moment.
_Jessica C: I know that you don't want to go back to the store, but if there is an issue with the device it may be the best bet since it is a new phone. I can also recommend taking it to a T-mobile direct dealer. They may be able to test your software. They know anything and everything about these phones.
_Jessica C: I do apologize but I am limited with my information at the time."
Since it's a new phone she doesn't have all the info, etc. At least they know there is a problem now.
I'm going to go to a t-mobile store and talk to them so I'll let you know what they say
LOL
i doubt that a t mobile rep would know anything and everything about the phone.
Ok, I just got off with a T-Mobile rep and she said the internal memory should have a total of 512MB. ...sucks! But good thing we have a 16GB sdcard.
^I was told 512 ram and 1024 rom. Plus 512 makes no sense when dude a couple posts up said he had 539mb available..sorry not dude above, you said it yourself! lol
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i doubt that a t mobile rep would know anything and everything about the phone.
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I know lol. But at least I can exchange my phone. Probably have the same problem but who knows.
Let us know the difference once you get the exchange.
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^I was told 512 ram and 1024 rom. Plus 512 makes no sense when dude a couple posts up said he had 539mb available..sorry not dude above, you said it yourself! lol
I know lol. But at least I can exchange my phone. Probably have the same problem but who knows.
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Ok, I can't stand my phone to be on stock so I think I will be going back to my MT4G.
I'll be back when Rom Manager supports the phone, full recovery and some nice ROMs starts flying in. (I WANT CM7!)
...love the screen though! Big difference when coming from the MT4G. :|
I will be checking this section and will be posting as well.
Thanks for all the help guys.
I had a butt-load of apps backed up with titanium and I was able to install all of them with no issues. I started with 539MB internal, I've got 154MB free. I have 220 user apps installed.
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I had a butt-load of apps backed up with titanium and I was able to install all of them with no issues. I started with 539MB internal, I've got 154MB free. I have 220 user apps installed.
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Did you get rid of anything that came with the phone?
I only installed about 10 apps and I'm down to 151mb. Kinda sucks. Hoping we can get clockwork recovery soon.
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Did you get rid of anything that came with the phone?
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Just a few bloatware things, probably 10 or 15 apps.
if I should return this phone or not.
I am coming from the old MT3G, so this is a serious upgrade for me, and I am loving every thing about it, except the memory issue for the apps.
I know that the LG Optimus g2X is probably coming out this month on Tmo, and probably could get on that instead.
I am trying to get everyones opinion on this ... just to get the pros and cons of this compared to that of the LGs.
Would appreciate if you guys can give me your input......
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Also, is it possible to return it rooted? Do I need to reload all the bloatware I deleted?
I like the phone, but I cannot recommend over the mytouch 4g. I have both.
+ The screen is amazing, and a huge selling point
+ Takes some of the best HD video ive ever experienced on a mobile phone
+ Snappy phone, no real issues as far of everyday use. It truely is a great phone.
+ Data speeds are very good
- The cheezyness of touchwiz UI and the extreme bloatware
- Totally nerfed the memory, combined with bloatware I only had like 400mb of memory available, why samsung?
-/+ no Flash on Camera, sorry. Camera performs well, but video is very good. Actually takes half decent pics in dim lighting. But having the option for flash would help, again..why samsung?
Other little things with the stock rom, like the browser not able to load in desktop mode and the very well hidden mobile hotspot are annoying but im sure will be resolved with custom Roms.
This phone couldve been a home run, but samsung only trades off some luxuries hardwarewise. The shipping software is tragic, but XDA im sure will come to the rescue. So with that...im keeping it.
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i've worked a couple of refurb centers for cell phones and you can return a phone to them with a full custom rom on it if you want. they don't care. they just replace hardware and plastics as necessary and EVERY phone gets plugged in and returned to a factory image. with that in mind... don't tell customer support anything over the phone that would prevent them from setting you up for a phone swap. lol
as for the phone's app issue... not really an issue if you have a moderate understanding of android and know how to move apps to external sd. all in all the phone is great... i recommend it. improved sound and video recording over the original Vibrant. i still have my original Vibrant so i compare them off and on. drastic improvements in some areas such as GPS. no change in others.
give it a go... you've got nothing to lose.
Return it and wait for something better.
I literally can't wait to get my replacement Vibrant 3g in the mail, so I can take this thign back.
I actually really hate it, and feel it's been a step backwards.
Just woundering,where did you hear that the optimus 2x is comming out this month
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I have a mytouch 4g so I disagree with the above post. I would so get a galaxy s.
Lol but if you wanna get rid of it....i will trade you my mytouch 4g haha
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Just wait on GS2 Galaxy 4g Is pointless a 4g upgrade no power at all at all lol
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luckyduck69 said:
i've worked a couple of refurb centers for cell phones and you can return a phone to them with a full custom rom on it if you want. they don't care. they just replace hardware and plastics as necessary and EVERY phone gets plugged in and returned to a factory image. with that in mind... don't tell customer support anything over the phone that would prevent them from setting you up for a phone swap. lol
as for the phone's app issue... not really an issue if you have a moderate understanding of android and know how to move apps to external sd. all in all the phone is great... i recommend it. improved sound and video recording over the original Vibrant. i still have my original Vibrant so i compare them off and on. drastic improvements in some areas such as GPS. no change in others.
give it a go... you've got nothing to lose.
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I definitely want to give this one a try, as said coming from the old MT3G, this is a good upgrade, snappy fast. Yes apps can be handled using the app2sd etc, but if waiting for a few more days or weeks will get me a phone where this is not going to be a tradeoff, then I keep thinking that it might be worth waiting.
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I am not sure if its being released this month, but cnet, XDA, endgadget all announced it a few days back that Tmobile is going to be getting it this month. The exact launch date i am unsure of. Check out the forum on XDA, they are talking all about it. (of course I might be totally mistaken)
carmeng4evr said:
I have a mytouch 4g so I disagree with the above post. I would so get a galaxy s.
Lol but if you wanna get rid of it....i will trade you my mytouch 4g haha
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Ohh no way am I going for the MT4G, they were giving it at free at Costco - from where i upgraded to the SG4G, but chose not to.. nice try though
The only one I think I wanna wait for is the LG phone, since its to be, APPARENTLY, original android etc and it might have the 1 or 2 GB space for apps. Of course its dual core etc, and might get ginerbread much earlier then the samsung.
The drawback on the LG is the screen resolution. And we dont know how the battery life is going to be on it or any other issues.
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- The cheezyness of touchwiz UI and the extreme bloatware
- Totally nerfed the memory, combined with bloatware I only had like 400mb of memory available, why samsung?
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Extreme bloatware? Have you seen a Epic 4G stock... now that is extreme bloatware compared to this.
Additionally, DoubleTwist AirSync is $5, so yeah I guess it's bloatware if you don't use it, but otherwise it's a bonus.
Honestly, I still don't understand everyone's complaint about internal memory. Move the app to the 16gb SD they provided.
Additionally, I was going to get the Nexus S but then I found out it has 16gb internal but no microSD support. I like the ability to change my storage space.
I am also coming from a My Touch 3g (3.5) and I really love the Galaxy S. I was up in the air between Nexus S, My Touch 4g, and this one. The Nexus lost out because no memory slot, the My Touch seemed a little slower (perception maybe) and the screen was not as nice. I can live with the on board memory since I can do a 32 gig card and run most apps that way. Will I regret not waiting...maybe but right now it is the best phone I have had it was easy to root and remove all the garbage I didnt want.
So I say keep it
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as for the phone's app issue... not really an issue if you have a moderate understanding of android and know how to move apps to external sd. all in all the phone is great...
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Memory IS an issue. With the type of processor this phone has is geared toward gaming and video. Gaming is great on this phone, but alot of the high quality games needs system resources and still needs a sizable amount of memory on the phone even with SD card data moved, not to mention even the apps that have to use system resources and cannot be moved. From my experience, the paltry memory was used real quick, and I'm not the only one.
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Extreme bloatware? Have you seen a Epic 4G stock... now that is extreme bloatware compared to this.
Additionally, DoubleTwist AirSync is $5, so yeah I guess it's bloatware if you don't use it, but otherwise it's a bonus.
Honestly, I still don't understand everyone's complaint about internal memory. Move the app to the 16gb SD they provided.
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No I haven't seen Epic 4g stock.
Im a 6yr Tmobile employee, I beta test and get my phones free, so I've been thru almost all our phones. This one has to have the most on board "bloatware" I've come across out of all our phones. Now bloatware to me by definition are software that should be OPTIONAL to the end user but is not and remains on the phone using memory and not being used.
A few apps I don't use and would like to be removed,
amazon mp3 - 1.12mb
Tmobile Backup- 1.15mb
Kindle- 2.68mb
Layer- 3.0mb
Media Hub- 4.47mb
My Account- 1.35mb
Slacker Radio- 2.40mb
T-Mobile TV- 4.48mb
TeleNav GPS- 1.97mb
ThinkFree Office- 9.18mb
Y! Finance Clock- 1.2mb
Now thats only app size, not to mention the cached data and background resources these apps use. And thats just some of the stuff, I do use some of the other apps already on the phone.
Really the point I'm trying to make is that most upper tier Android phones, (which this should fall in that catagory) should almost be a prerequisite to have a sizable amount of onboard memory available to the end user and this one doesn't. Why does the vibrant have sizable memory and this doesn't?
And BTW, I do not know why everybody is dogging the MyTouch 4G, it can do everything the Gs4G can do, and has memory and camera flash and only .2 of an inch smaller screen, and of course HTC made so updates and large XDA support. Like I said...I like the Galaxy S 4G but feel I made a lateral move from the MyTouch 4G.
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Id like to know the same..
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1st I am not sure if this has been posted (I haven't seen it) but the info under running apps only shows about 508mb of RAM, and about half of it is used for system and background running apps. The Htc rep told me that the approx 260mb that does not show up, is used for the OS. This means out of the 768,MB of advertised RAM, there is usually not more than about 250-300 mb free to use.
He also told me that not only did other stores start selling the phone early, but so did t-mobile, and that they were not supposed to have put it out for sale until the 3rd week of June.
He said that because of this, many of the htc reps have not properly finished their training on the sensation and although htc usually has about an average of a 10 day from release to first patch, they have been having to scramble because of the premature release.
He confirmed that an unlocked bootloader is coming but would not give any indication of time.
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1st I am not sure if this has been posted (I haven't seen it) but the info under running apps only shows about 508mb of RAM, and about half of it is used for system and background running apps. The Htc rep told me that the approx 260mb that does not show up, is used for the OS. This means out of the 768,MB of advertised RAM, there is usually not more than about 250-300 mb free to use.
He also told me that not only did other stores start selling the phone early, but so did t-mobile, and that they were not supposed to have put it out for sale until the 3rd week of June.
He said that because of this, many of the htc reps have not properly finished their training on the sensation and although htc usually has about an average of a 10 day from release to first patch, they have been having to scramble because of the premature release.
He confirmed that an unlocked bootloader is coming but would not give any indication of time.
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I spoke to a tech rep the other day just asking if my warranty would still be valid since it was an import and the last question I asked her was about the bootloader.. she said that there was no word about when an update would come yet. She did say they got the notice that new HTC phones released after the summer will have the unlocked bootloaders. She did say she would assume they would issue some kind of update for the sensation and evo 3d but she didnt know details. She actually joked and said all the techs cringed when they got that notice because they knew it would be a warranty nightmare (translation: all the noobs calling in with bricked phones filing warranty exchanges/repairs) We both agreed it should be a little work to unlock it just so every tom, **** and harry couldnt do it and cause more harm to the device then good.
nice, so hopefully an update sometime around the third week of june maybe? hopefully......hopefully
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She did say they got the notice that new HTC phones released after the summer will have the unlocked bootloaders.
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Is that EXACTLY what she said?
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nice, so hopefully an update sometime around the third week of june maybe? hopefully......hopefully
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We are currently in the 4th week of June...
w3by said:
We are currently in the 4th week of June...
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The rep failed to mention the year... June 2020
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Is that EXACTLY what she said?
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Not exactly, I omitted that she said it would be after summer in the 3rd quarter. That was exactly what she said. She said thats what the memo she got said. But we all know that can change.. so only time will tell
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1st I am not sure if this has been posted (I haven't seen it) but the info under running apps only shows about 508mb of RAM, and about half of it is used for system and background running apps. The Htc rep told me that the approx 260mb that does not show up, is used for the OS. This means out of the 768,MB of advertised RAM, there is usually not more than about 250-300 mb free to use.
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Absolutely ridiculous. No wonder Rosie has to reload itself every time you exit out of an app.
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He also told me that not only did other stores start selling the phone early, but so did t-mobile, and that they were not supposed to have put it out for sale until the 3rd week of June.
He said that because of this, many of the htc reps have not properly finished their training on the sensation and although htc usually has about an average of a 10 day from release to first patch, they have been having to scramble because of the premature release.
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When I ordered my phone over the weekend, the rep I talked to said that his group was trained on the phone the day before release and he was off that day. When he got in the next day (release day), he got tons of calls on the phone and he didn't have proper knowledge of the phone or its capabilities... but he knows it's an awesome phone.
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Absolutely ridiculous. No wonder Rosie has to reload itself every time you exit out of an app.
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seriously ram is not an issue with this phone for me. I have tons of things running and services in the background and I have 236MB of free ram available (according to settings, applications, running)
task manager shows less though and I heard is not as accurate. task manager shows 92mb free watchdog reports 21588kb free
The OS does take up some ram of the 768. You get to use 558mb of that. That's what my system tells me is the total available ram. Honestly my G2X only has 512 and I NEVER have ram issues with that. I think most phones reserve ram for the system. I'll check my g2x to see if the full 512 is available or if the OS takes some up. I always have 85-95mb free on that. Someone said once here on xda If you constantly have around 100mb free when you're doing everything you normally do, it's pretty much wasted ram..
as long as I have 100 mb free or close to that I feel secure
Some of the RAM is reserved for GPU (not for OS).
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Some of the RAM is reserved for GPU (not for OS).
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I forgot about that. Good point
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I forgot about that. Good point
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People..........stop with the RAM analysis. Look at the ps3, it only has 256mb RAM and the seperate GPU is also 256mb. We're good.
Hi Guys
I will be getting my 4G in the next 2 days and i was doing some research to figure out how the 4G gets rooted and all of the other good stuff.
I have a vibrant but it looks totally different animal than the 4G. I want to say more Simple.
so my 1st question is If I am going to root how will i unroot if i want to turn the phone for repair or any other reason? as you know rooted phones out of warranty
2nd How is GB roms running comparing to vibrant when it comes to hardware supported, battery life, GPS .............. ?
and last question how come every time i go from page to another my internet security keeps flagging as malicious URL (malware) ?
also I want to say thank you all very much for the great Support here and all over XDA Forums
medoo313 said:
Hi Guys
I will be getting my 4G in the next 2 days and i was doing some research to figure out how the 4G gets rooted and all of the other good stuff.
I have a vibrant but it looks totally different animal than the 4G. I want to say more Simple.
so my 1st question is If I am going to root how will i unroot if i want to turn the phone for repair or any other reason? as you know rooted phones out of warranty
2nd How is GB roms running comparing to vibrant when it comes to hardware supported, battery life, GPS .............. ?
and last question how come every time i go from page to another my internet security keeps flagging as malicious URL (malware) ?
also I want to say thank you all very much for the great Support here and all over XDA Forums
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GB ROM's aren't fully stable just yet. And dev support is about 1/50th of what it is in the Vibrant section so it will take more time for it to pick up for the 4G. Also, internal memory sucks so you'll probably need apps2SD or something.
But there are plenty of great people here that will help you out, lots of good things should be coming to this phone in the future. The ROM bible in the dev section should provide you with a lot of rooting tips.
Good luck man.
Thanks for your respond mackster. I will be joining the game here soon.
one of the questions answered
so I did some more research on superoneclick and I see that is good for
Rooting and UnRooting
Correct me if I am Mistaking
but will someone till me why do i Delete Fota Files for ?
Replacing the fota files will free up about 150 to 200 MB of internal memory thus giving more space for your apps
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lostsauce said:
Replacing the fota files will free up about 150 to 200 MB of internal memory thus giving more space for your apps
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when you say internal memory isn't like 16 GB ? Like the vibrant ?
Internal Memory
I believe that the internal memory is somewhere around 512 mb, hence the need for the fota fix, after replacing the fota files you should have in the area of +/- 350 mb.
Exodian said:
I believe that the internal memory is somewhere around 512 mb, hence the need for the fota fix, after replacing the fota files you should have in the area of +/- 350 mb.
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oh man. i just figured that out too. that's not Nice
Can the vibrant get a 2000 quad score or 20 mflops stock? Sgs4g can
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dsexton702 said:
Can the vibrant get a 2000 quad score or 20 mflops stock? Sgs4g can
sent from my sgs4g 2.3.3, finally
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Well. you made a point but as you know we're human likes the hole pie not missing any piece
I would not worry about the lack of internal memory. With the fota fix, removed bloatware and apps2sd you should never have any space issues. The 4g is one badass phone out the box, once you get all the mods up and going it is just killer.
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Exodian said:
I would not worry about the lack of internal memory. With the fota fix, removed bloatware and apps2sd you should never have any space issues. The 4g is one badass phone out the box, once you get all the mods up and going it is just killer.
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just got it but too bad i have to go to work. I will be playing with it tomorrow after noon