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A list of a few Vibrant 4G FAILS

Ok so a few things I'm not liking about the Vibrant 4G are:
-Internal memory removed
-No camera flash
-Can't record videos with FFC unless using QIK
-Can't switch to FFC in yahoo video chat
-No FFC auto focus or effects
-Tons of bloatware (which most I already removed)
This is all I can think of right now but feel free to add a few more things to the list guys
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Also some of us who own the 4G have problems with the:
- GPS
- battery life
These are clearly evidenced by the many threads and posts of users having those specific issues.

What is the point of this thread other than to whine and moan? This phone has been out less than a week guys, we don't even have CWM yet for crying out loud. We have no idea the potential this phone might have yet.

aloneinshadow said:
What is the point of this thread other than to whine and moan? This phone has been out less than a week guys, we don't even have CWM yet for crying out loud. We have no idea the potential this phone might have yet.
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I agree with you 100%

Hopefully with a list up of problems a developer can look at this as a checklist for future rom development
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Yeah I love the speed, its deffinatly a noticable step up from my Mytouch 4g. I Like that the MyTouch 4g came with stock mobile hotspot activated, flash on the camera and the FFC on MyTouch 4g was noticably better quality camera than the Vibrant 4g is. Other than that it's Stupid that they took out the 16gb internal memory. But Im sure some sick ROMs will come out for this phone.

You should take GPS and battery life off of the list, there are like 2 people having that problem lol

can some one enlighten me on what's the deal with the part that says the internal storage have been removed???
pegate369 said:
Ok so a few things I'm not liking about the Vibrant 4G are:
-Internal memory removed
-No camera flash
-Can't record videos with FFC unless using QIK
-Can't switch to FFC in yahoo video chat
-No FFC auto focus or effects
-Tons of bloatware (which most I already removed)
This is all I can think of right now but feel free to add a few more things to the list guys
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Never mind found the answer already... Holy CRAP! less than 512 mb available
that's a deal breaker for me, and i was planning to get one

Yes im new an all... but if we knew for months that the there was no camera flash and the internal memory was reduced (with expandable increased)... Who buys it , then complains about the issues already documented?
THe SGS4G is rocking with me, I moved apps to the SD , GPS works great . but i guess im the only one, it would seem from the forums ..

when i purchased this phone at the tmo store they said it had the 16g internal and aparently they didnt know

trekei said:
Yes im new an all... but if we knew for months that the there was no camera flash and the internal memory was reduced (with expandable increased)... Who buys it , then complains about the issues already documented?
THe SGS4G is rocking with me, I moved apps to the SD , GPS works great . but i guess im the only one, it would seem from the forums ..
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ur not, I love mine, great battery life, and all my functions work great. Low storage? who cares! take off the crapware.

bloatware
Can bloatware be deleted without root? Also, I have read that people who have removed telenav from the phone have had GPS issues after. Can anyone confirm this?

drksilenc said:
when i purchased this phone at the tmo store they said it had the 16g internal and aparently they didnt know
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Where does T-Mobile hire these people? Seriously. They told me that it had honeycomb on it when I bought it. I picked up the demo phone, went to about phone, and showed them that it had Froyo. They didn't believe me and insisted that it did in fact have honeycomb on it.... I guess thankfully if we're on here chances are we're smart enough to do our own research and know for the most part what we're getting into with any phone purchases.

I only go into the store to buy accesories , i never those people questions , they never know.

aloneinshadow said:
What is the point of this thread other than to whine and moan? This phone has been out less than a week guys, we don't even have CWM yet for crying out loud. We have no idea the potential this phone might have yet.
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the potential is the same as vib 3g + 4g data speeds ,there i described your phone .

Is a sam-dung , they always have problems...
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Lacking application storage is the utworst, period.
Modify internal hardware is nearly impossible (can you replace internal NAND with 4GB?!).

mingkee said:
Lacking application storage is the utworst, period.
Modify internal hardware is nearly impossible (can you replace internal NAND with 4GB?!).
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TO The Numerous People Who Whine and Complain About This:
Android 2.2 supports the ability to run applications from the microSD card.
OMG It doesn't have alot of internal storage... who cares? If you're running a Class 4, 5 or 6 SD card it doesn't matter.
Additionally I like the ability to upgrade my SD storage whenever I want.
It came with a 16gb SD card anyhow.
I didn't buy a Nexus S (16gb internal, no microSD) because it didn't support SD storage.
Stop whining and complaining about the fact that it doesn't have internal storage... it's getting old.

pegate369 said:
Ok so a few things I'm not liking about the Vibrant 4G are:
-Internal memory removed
-No camera flash
-Can't record videos with FFC unless using QIK
-Can't switch to FFC in yahoo video chat
-No FFC auto focus or effects
-Tons of bloatware (which most I already removed)
This is all I can think of right now but feel free to add a few more things to the list guys
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FYI, if you buy a branded phone from a carrier you get bloatware, plain and simple.
Don't want bloatware? Root and remove like you already did. Feel lucky, the Epic 4G comes with way more crapware.
OR Buy a google experience phone like a G2.
FYI, internal memory wasn't removed, it was reduced.
FYI, the SGS4G has amazing night mode, frankly I don't like flash.

Would you recommend the Nexus S?

I have the Vibrant now, but Bestbuy has the Nexus S for 100. How do you like your nexus? Anyone here go from the Vibrant to the Nexus?
Thanks for any input.
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Yes
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Five0nIt said:
I have the Vibrant now, but Bestbuy has the Nexus S for 100. How do you like your nexus? Anyone here go from the Vibrant to the Nexus?
Thanks for any input.
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you will get about 90% yes, 10% troll-no
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you will get about 90% yes, 10% troll-no
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Keep in mind though that posting here you're going to get quite a biased userbase. People who buy the SNS tend to do so because they're fans of the stock android experience and will put up with a few bugs to have it (none as big as not having working GPS for far too long...).

I came from the vibrant and I'm very pleased so far. stock android is awesome and I've had excellent gps so far. I haven't experienced any of the bugs some people have been having either.
overall a solid phone. I would recommend it for sure.
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I came from a vibrant and paid launch price for mine. At that price I have zero regrets and am really happy with the upgrade. At half the price, I wouldn't think twice. Go for it!

i came from iphone 3g, and did a LOT of research for a long time before deciding on the Nexus S. honestly, i love this phone. and a lot of people have asked me about it wanting to know what it is (it's not released in Aus yet).
my opinion may be a bit biased due to the benefits of android (coming from ios), rather than this phone specifically, but hardware wise at least, it feels solid, it performs very well, the screen is awesome, it looks elegant (no branding on the face - a requirement for me). the main hardware downside is that the storage can't be expanded. though i'm used to that, and i can live with 16gb. also the small bump at the back on the bottom may not appeal to some people; i like it though - easiest/fastest way to tell top from bottom on this phone, particularly in the dark, haha.
i would say just go into bestbuy and play with the phone in-store.

jaker.the.skater said:
I came from the vibrant and I'm very pleased so far. stock android is awesome and I've had excellent gps so far. I haven't experienced any of the bugs some people have been having either.
overall a solid phone. I would recommend it for sure.
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How do you like not having a Microsd. Dose it bother you? I think that and it not being a 4g phone is what keeps me from pulling the trigger.
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Five0nIt said:
How do you like not having a Microsd. Dose it bother you? I think that and it not being a 4g phone is what keeps me from pulling the trigger.
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MicroSD is not a problem for me and in Engadget's review of the SGS4G they compared its data speed to the Nexus S and found that it was really not much faster. Of course as the 4G tech gets better, the speeds will get faster but by the time it matters you'll most likely be shopping for a new phone.

sd is not a problem for me. I have about 6.5 gb of music and then I use up 1 or 2 more gb for pictures, apps, etc.
4g isn't upsetting for me either. I get about 5 mb download speed in my area on 3g and that's good enough for me. I mainly use wifi for big file downloads.
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Sweet. I've been wanting the Nexus since it launched, but told myself to wait for a 4.3 inch android, but at only 100 Idk if I can pass that up. The 4g is not a deal breaker the no microsd slot was.but even now my 16gig micro is not even half full.
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Depends what you plan to do with a Nexus S. Do you plan to create apps, or root, or flash a lot of ROMs, load a lot of custom skins and whatnot? If so, then yes. It sounds like a dream come true if you are into that stuff.
However, if you plan to use the NS as is, I would actually not recommend it. I love the Android platform, but I've also been very critical of it for it's, unfortunately, many shortcomings. The vanilla Android OS is chock full of glitches ranging from minor, to annoying, to major problems. It's great that you get direct and timely updates from Google, but I'm discovering more and more that all that means is you're their beta tester. Some people get a kick out of that, and some don't.
Do as much research as you can; like Kenvan mentioned though, you have to keep in mind you're in a Nexus S forum. The feedback will likely be bias and skewed.
And if you haven't actually handled a Nexus S, definitely do so, and spend a lot of time with it. Good luck, have fun.

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Depends what you plan to do with a Nexus S. Do you plan to create apps, or root, or flash a lot of ROMs, load a lot of custom skins and whatnot? If so, then yes. It sounds like a dream come true if you are into that stuff.
However, if you plan to use the NS as is, I would actually not recommend it. I love the Android platform, but I've also been very critical of it for it's, unfortunately, many shortcomings. The vanilla Android OS is chock full of glitches ranging from minor, to annoying, to major problems. It's great that you get direct and timely updates from Google, but I'm discovering more and more that all that means is you're their beta tester. Some people get a kick out of that, and some don't.
Do as much research as you can; like Kenvan mentioned though, you have to keep in mind you're in a Nexus S forum. The feedback will likely be bias and skewed.
And if you haven't actually handled a Nexus S, definitely do so, and spend a lot of time with it. Good luck, have fun.
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Yea I like to flash roms and right now its pretty dead in the vibrant section that's why im considering the nexus.
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I dunno I wouldn't waste an upgrade on it and shell out 100 if you already have a vibrant granted nexus s is better I'd probley wait for something else at this point I sold my vibrant for 300 at the time but I burned an upgrade I guess you can do the same I did
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I dunno I wouldn't waste an upgrade on it and shell out 100 if you already have a vibrant granted nexus s is better I'd probley wait for something else at this point I sold my vibrant for 300 at the time but I burned an upgrade I guess you can do the same I did
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An upgrade wont be a problem. I have 4 lines and no one gives a **** what phone they have. I just keep passing mine down
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Coming from a Hero and an Epic 4G, I can say that even with the existing issues, the Nexus S delivers the Android experience I'd been expecting all along. The phone simply feels responsive in a way that OEMs seem to destroy with their crappy add-ons.
If you felt like your Vibrant had no right to be so sluggish with a 1GHz CPU, then go for it. I paid full price for my NS and it was totally worth it. If anything you won't get those stupid battery-full popups or the bleeps when getting/losing a cell signal.

I wouldn't recommend it. And this isn't a "troll-no," as someone so fanboyishly put it.
The phone itself is absolutely gorgeous. I love how light it is and the screen is wonderful. It's funny the hardware was the thing I was worried about most before I purchased and it's ended up being the one thing I really like about the phone.
The software ruins it for me - and many others, I suspect. There are so many little things about it that go wrong that it's a frustrate-fest for me.
Examples?
Downloads from browser/market are unsuccessful 50-75% of the time.
The phone still loses mobile network connection many times. While it doesn't seem to need a full reboot anymore for me, it still requires an Airplane mode on/off to remedy.
I've still had reboots - just last week it rebooted in the middle of the night and got stuck on the boot screen, making me late for work since the alarm didn't go off
Google Voice constantly has a wakelock issue for me. If I don't catch it early in the day it ends up sucking over 25% of my battery. A reboot will fix it. But now, reboots seem to be deleting my widgets.
T-Mobile's service is pretty bad for me - I know it's not really fair to count as a problem, but dropped calls are even worse than when I had the iPhone on ATT. That said, the problem is not so bad when I'm at home and not moving, and the HPSA speeds I get when I have "H" signal are very, very nice.
This is my 4th Android phone - while I love Google and all they do and stand for, I've actually gotten tired of waiting for the perfect Android experience. I thought SNS would be it, being the "Google phone" per se. Many frustrating bugs and glitches have lead up to one very dissapointing experience.
I hate to say it but I'll probably be eyeing the "iPhone 5" come summertime.

Five0nIt said:
I have the Vibrant now, but Bestbuy has the Nexus S for 100. How do you like your nexus? Anyone here go from the Vibrant to the Nexus?
Thanks for any input.
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Yes for the pure google experience
No due the hardware, there are better hardware on the market already
Yes for the price
No due the contract
...It's your choice to make
The ultimate question you should be asking yourself is
Do you want to FLASH ROMs and Customize the phone with very Nerdy and Geeky codes, not easy for the regular user, that just wants a phone to play with?
if you answer is Yes, then go for it
If you answer is no, not sure, not ready, not really, i don't know
then i'll suggest you to look for another phone

Impressions of my new G2X

Got mine this afternoon and I'm coming from a Verizon Incredible running CyanogenMod 7 so I have quite a lot of Android experience and I've seen the latest stuff (gingerbread). I also have a XOOM.
So I got my G2X and here are my impressions:
++ Screen is just WOW. Coming from AMOLED I was not expecting much but it really blew me away - it's almost too bright from what I'm used to. Outdoors it is super easy to read which is a big plus from an AMOLED. Would have been perfect with qHD but the current resolution is good enough for me
++ Build quality is superb. Very solid in hand, no creaks or cheap feeling parts. Back feels good and side is great. Mine came with a nice screen protector already on the screen so I'm leaving it on for now. It seems pretty high quality. I love the weight/feel of it though.
++ Speaker on the bottom. Sounds OK...the notifications/ringtones are super loud but the music didn't seem as loud? Not a big deal. It sounds better than when the speaker is in the back like the Inc.
++ WiFi is mind blowing fast. I get 30mbps/15mbps on my N Wifi. Thats as fast as an iPad2 and XOOM and a little slower than an i7 Macbook Pro!! This thing is balls out fast on WiFi if you have N. Worth getting an N router if you don't!
++ Cell signal seems good although it seems slow to pickup/switch from WiFi to 3G, etc. Haven't used it enough to make a judgement on this. Speed outdoors with full bars and 4G showing is just so-so...about 1.5mbps down and 1.5mbps up. But then again I'm in NYC area so too many people probably.
++ Speed - this thing is a beast. 2500+ in quadrant stock and just very speedy in using apps. The browser seems responsive and flash seems very smooth in general. Downloads (see wifi speed up) from Market and installs are blindingly fast.
++ No crapware!! Only stuff is TMobile apps which are reasonable like myAccount and mydevice, etc. I can live with that. The games they put on are pretty awesome (Nova and NFS is a good start).
++ Wifi Calling - never had before and I think it's awesome. Seems to work quite well. When on, the cell signal bars go to zero so I'm guessing it turns off the cell radio? is this true? If so that'd be good.
++ Boot time is kind of ridiculously fast - about 10-15 seconds on average from cold start.
-- Stock Froyo launcher is mehh. Was fun for a bit but then I couldn't stand the 5 screens and lack of functionality. I ended up sticking launcher pro on it and so far it's good although LP is smooth/fast it's still laggy at times which is odd. On the bright side, I can run the Nexus Live wallpaper and it seems to have no impact on overall performance
-- I miss Gingerbread more than I thought. Mainly text selection is none existent in Froyo and it's annoying to say the least
-- Car Home that comes with the G2X is old and crappy. You can't install the new one from Market because it's not marked as compatible. I was able to BT the file over from my Incredible and luckily it installed fine and seems to work.
I haven't had a chance to play with the cameras yet and haven't had a chance to test the battery either so will post back if there's any surprises on those.
Overall I'm very happy so far. I'm going to try it out for a week or two and then if I still love it, port over my Verizon #. Any questions?
See my post further down!!! There are 2 items that may be issues for people!!

Nice post.... How much memory is accessible for apps? And what's the full ram with all apps closed/bootup .... Thanks man. Awesome review

Nice. Thanks.
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smashpunks said:
Nice post.... How much memory is accessible for apps? And what's the full ram with all apps closed/bootup .... Thanks man. Awesome review
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Not sure about first boot but based on Anandtech's review of the O2X and what I'm seeing in OS monitor only looks like 384!! 128MB of the 512MB ram is dedicated to the Nvidia GPU/CPU so that only leaves 384.
OH and one other thing that's extremely annoying is how the SD card is handled in this phone. The internal 5GB of free storage is actually mounted as SDCARD!!! /mnt/sdcard
The external SD card is mounted as /mnt/sdcard/_ExternalSD
So any and all apps end up writing to the internal 5GB and not the external SD. You have to have apps that can have paths changed and I guess you can still store pictures, music and other junk on the SD card but you'll end up using your internal 5GB for most app stuff whether you like it or not!!
So that's a big --- for me I forgot to add

Great summary, thanks for that !

mobilehavoc said:
++ Wifi Calling - never had before and I think it's awesome. Seems to work quite well. When on, the cell signal bars go to zero so I'm guessing it turns off the cell radio? is this true? If so that'd be good.
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I don't know if you travel internationally but WiFi calling is a lifesaver. Anywhere you can connect to the Internet all the calls you make are counted as U.S. domestic against your U.S. minutes. I'm in Europe and Asia a lot and it's saved me a fortune in roaming charges. I just used it on a cruise ship to call home for the 25 cents a minute the ship charges for WiFi access. You can also use it on GoGo to call and text from planes. I've done the latter but wouldn't want to become a national security risk doing the former. And yes, it deactivates the radio so calls, text, and data are transmitted via WiFi.

Thanks for the early review. I played with in the store the other day, and the screen is nice. I currently have a nexus s, and the G2x screen is on par with the nexus s. The G2x actually has more pop with the color. The phone feels well made, and it's a beast very snappy. I'm still debating, whether to sale my nexus s. Decisions decisions.

How is the GPS accuracy guys? Can you post a few screenshots from GPS status app from market?

Call quality? Maybe it's just my ears, but my vibrant really bites when it comes to this. Too low without HAC and everyone always sounds muffled..

fearmonkey said:
Call quality? Maybe it's just my ears, but my vibrant really bites when it comes to this. Too low without HAC and everyone always sounds muffled..
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A few calls I've made the earpiece is very clear and loud...couldn't put it at full volume because it was too loud which is a good thing. My Inc's earpiece was somewhat quiet.

I too was amazed at how great the screen is. It's bright and the colors POP! The blacks are not as rich as Sammy's but to me the display looks better because that bluish tinge is not on the G2x. I can't wait to get gingerbread on here and then this will probably end up being my favorite device to date.
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I dont believe anybody mentioned if tethering is working on this phone? I am sure with rooting and custom ROMS it will work. But, I am just curious does it work right out of box?

ceroglu said:
I dont believe anybody mentioned if tethering is working on this phone? I am sure with rooting and custom ROMS it will work. But, I am just curious does it work right out of box?
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It works right out the box.
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mobilehavoc said:
Not sure about first boot but based on Anandtech's review of the O2X and what I'm seeing in OS monitor only looks like 384!! 128MB of the 512MB ram is dedicated to the Nvidia GPU/CPU so that only leaves 384.
OH and one other thing that's extremely annoying is how the SD card is handled in this phone. The internal 5GB of free storage is actually mounted as SDCARD!!! /mnt/sdcard
The external SD card is mounted as /mnt/sdcard/_ExternalSD
So any and all apps end up writing to the internal 5GB and not the external SD. You have to have apps that can have paths changed and I guess you can still store pictures, music and other junk on the SD card but you'll end up using your internal 5GB for most app stuff whether you like it or not!!
So that's a big --- for me I forgot to add
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This is basically the same as the Vibrant (what I used to have until recently). That amount of available memory is plenty imho. The "sdcard, _externalsd" thing is getting to be pretty standard from what I understand. However, I could still move a great number of apps over to the external SD if I wanted (never really wanted to though).
I wouldn't have minded a bit more internal storage (coming from 16 Gig on the Vibrant), but 5 Gig is still pretty good. With 16, I really never used my external SD at all. With 5, I may have to put some on each or use the external as primary storage and internal for apps and roms (no big deal).

I'm picking 7mbps inside home which usually its not good signal. My Tb have very bad 4g signal inside here. But out when tb gets good lte signal it blows the G2x but overall its a great phone. A keeper
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This is basically the same as the Vibrant (what I used to have until recently). That amount of available memory is plenty imho. The "sdcard, _externalsd" thing is getting to be pretty standard from what I understand. However, I could still move a great number of apps over to the external SD if I wanted (never really wanted to though).
I wouldn't have minded a bit more internal storage (coming from 16 Gig on the Vibrant), but 5 Gig is still pretty good. With 16, I really never used my external SD at all. With 5, I may have to put some on each or use the external as primary storage and internal for apps and roms (no big deal).
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I agree, this will be fine for me, I'm used to my vibrant like that.. 5 is plenty for apps and data, then ill use my sd for multimedia ..

Awsome device, no problems.
Got it yesterday, charged it up. So no problems thus far. No reboots,no stalls.
Its as quick as hell, and seems to be holding a charge pretty well.
Holds a 4g signal better than the MyTouch 4g it replaced.
Screen is beautiful. Better than the SGS4G i replaced with the MT4G.
Contrary to what everyone is saying the 512mgs of ram seems to have no negative impact on performance.
IMO this would be an appropriate upgrade for anyone with a SGS4G,G2,MyTouch4G or Cliq 2. It screams speed.
fhaines

tsalate said:
It works right out the box.
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without having to pay tmo???

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without having to pay tmo???
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I don't think they have a way to lock it down on a completely stock device.
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My tethering has worked from day one of getting Froyo on my N1 for free. No tmo charges added to my EMP plan.
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Charge not to impressed!!!!

I am to happy with this phone. Very disappointed ... why would Samsung on install 300k ram. ?? What were they thinking.
My fascinate was as good as this. Why did I get it?
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RichardZu said:
I am to happy with this phone. Very disappointed ... why would Samsung on install 300k ram. ?? What were they thinking.
My fascinate was as good as this. Why did I get it?
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Not sure why... dont let the door hit ya in the azz !!

RichardZu said:
I am to happy with this phone. Very disappointed ... why would Samsung on install 300k ram. ?? What were they thinking.
My fascinate was as good as this. Why did I get it?
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Did your fascinate have the capability to get 20 mpbs uh no. Its the best out of the 4g phones period. Lg phone sucks donkey balls. Tbolt is a dam nice phone love sense wife owns this phone. The battery life sucks azz though 2 /3 hrs tops. The only reason I did not buy that phone. Charge better display than any other lte phone, better battery life as well. Makes it a easy decision.

A very easy decision. Don't know why people talks down to this phone and in a few more weeks we will have so much ROM to make it even better, not that it's needs to be.

It has 550 ram but 220 is dedicated to functions you cant control. The other is for all your apps and system apps
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RichardZu said:
I am to happy with this phone. Very disappointed ... why would Samsung on install 300k ram. ?? What were they thinking.
My fascinate was as good as this. Why did I get it?
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please tell me english isn't your first language. This makes my head hurt trying to read it.

RichardZu said:
I am to happy with this phone. Very disappointed ... why would Samsung on install 300k ram. ?? What were they thinking.
My fascinate was as good as this. Why did I get it?
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I guess exercise your return policy?
SAMOLED+ > SAMOLED > Super LCD > TFT.
4.3" > 4" > 3.8" > 3.5".
4G/3G/1x > 3G/1x.
8MP Camera > 5MP Camera (and honestly, better than the 8MP on the DX2).
It has more than "300k" ram.
But, you know, some of the above is personal preference. It's perfectly fine if you don't like the phone.
I love it.

I love my Charge
great batt life and no lockups or anything like I was getting with the tbolt

Grammar and spelling are officially dead on the Internet

It has 512MB of RAM, with a portion of that being allocated to the GPU and some other things on the system, leaving you with ~330MB or so. The GPU needs some dedicated memory to get such good performance, and I'd rather not see it at all, than see it and not be able to use it.

Lets be honest. Out of the box this phone is a pos.
Ive returned mine once thinking i got a bunk phone. On my second droid charge now and im convinced this phone has some hardware issues and samsung built it as cheap as possible. I havent lost any pixils yet but im not sure any rom will make this a sold phone.

I don't understand why people start threads to complain about the phone they own. If you don't like it, fine. Either get rid of it or deal with it. Complaining makes you look:
A. Like a baby
And
B. Like someone who didn't do any research before buying.
Wah wah wahl... We all feel so bad for you.
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i wish more ppl complained about this phone before i bought it. . instead of all the BS reviews out there. woulda save me some time and frustration.

gregh530 said:
i wish more ppl complained about this phone before i bought it. . instead of all the BS reviews out there. woulda save me some time and frustration.
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The only thing I can gather, is that folks like you don't care about 4G and didn't start with a Thunderbolt. This phone is far superior to the Tbolt... making it the best Verizon 4G phone available.

I had a fascinate and stepped up the the charge... I really like the charge. I like the feel and the look of the charge. The only thing that's going to top this phone is going to be the galaxy s2, that is supposed to be released sometime in the third quarter for verizon.
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Keighles said:
I had a fascinate and stepped up the the charge... I really like the charge. I like the feel and the look of the charge. The only thing that's going to top this phone is going to be the galaxy s2, that is supposed to be released sometime in the third quarter for verizon.
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The only issue here is that there are talks that the SGS2 won't be LTE-capable If that's the case, it will make me really, really sad.
And seriously people, if you don't like the phone return it and gtfo. I'm kind of getting sick of hearing about it. Me, personally, I've owned almost every new Verizon and Sprint phone since the HTC Incredible. I love this phone.
If you have legitimate issues with the phone that you think this community can remedy or assist you with, feel free to voice and ask for assistance. But if you just come here to post a half-english half-button-mashed complaint with overuse of exclamation marks then please refrain

burningembers said:
The only issue here is that there are talks that the SGS2 won't be LTE-capable If that's the case, it will make me really, really sad.
And seriously people, if you don't like the phone return it and gtfo. I'm kind of getting sick of hearing about it. Me, personally, I've owned almost every new Verizon and Sprint phone since the HTC Incredible. I love this phone.
If you have legitimate issues with the phone that you think this community can remedy or assist you with, feel free to voice and ask for assistance. But if you just come here to post a half-english half-button-mashed complaint with overuse of exclamation marks then please refrain
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Agreed.
If you know what you are doing, this phone is just as good as any.
## wish there was more available ram. The browser takes 90 mb of ram to watch flash video... yikes
Other than that.... this phone rules! 20mbps download on the lte??? This thing is crazy fast... it's strange when you turn your wifi off because lte is faster... lol
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im coming from a mytouch4g from tmo so this phone is leaps and bounds better then my old phone. if you think you had a bunk phone and returned it and the second one is not working the way you think it should either then maybe it has something to do with user error not phone. the only thing i would complain about on this phone that the mt4g had it beat in was battery life. the battery life is horrible but thats ok with the amazing screen on this phone its expected

burningembers said:
The only issue here is that there are talks that the SGS2 won't be LTE-capable If that's the case, it will make me really, really sad.
And seriously people, if you don't like the phone return it and gtfo. I'm kind of getting sick of hearing about it. Me, personally, I've owned almost every new Verizon and Sprint phone since the HTC Incredible. I love this phone.
If you have legitimate issues with the phone that you think this community can remedy or assist you with, feel free to voice and ask for assistance. But if you just come here to post a half-english half-button-mashed complaint with overuse of exclamation marks then please refrain
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Agreed...if the sgs2 is not 4g lte. Then I think its a waist of resources and very disappointing.
Now that im running jt's voodoo kernal and imnuts v4 rom. Combined with the 4g lte . This phone rocks!!
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It will be lte with a rev2 chip. Rev2 chip is a radio that does cdma and lte without having different signal bars. It's not like the tb or charge. It doesn't add bulk. And the rev2 chip is known to save battery unlike our lte chips
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Galaxy S 4G for free

T Mobile has a web only deal for a Samsung Galaxy S 4G for free ending today.
For those of you that have one, can you please let me know what you think of it ? I guess it ends today so they can clear stock for the HTC sensation, but I dont think I'll be able to afford one of those, so this seems like a sweet deal.
some honest opinions would be appreciated, good or bad.

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T Mobile has a web only deal for a Samsung Galaxy S 4G for free ending today.
For those of you that have one, can you please let me know what you think of it ? I guess it ends today so they can clear stock for the HTC sensation, but I dont think I'll be able to afford one of those, so this seems like a sweet deal.
some honest opinions would be appreciated, good or bad.
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I bet its the same deal they did with the g2, you have to make a new plan/new line of service with a web plan to get the special deal. They wouldn't even work with me on the phone over it.

grifforama said:
T Mobile has a web only deal for a Samsung Galaxy S 4G for free ending today.
For those of you that have one, can you please let me know what you think of it ? I guess it ends today so they can clear stock for the HTC sensation, but I dont think I'll be able to afford one of those, so this seems like a sweet deal.
some honest opinions would be appreciated, good or bad.
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Get this phone cause I'm telling you ya won't regret it. Ever since one of the devs(drhonk) got the phone to test on things are blowing up around here(I mean that in a good way ) we have cwm and a few roms and alot of Tweaks that are gonna make that sgs4g fly and all your friends are gonna be like "wtf, I wish my phone would perform like that". Lol. But yes I would definitely recommended it especially if its for free. I mean come on that's a deal.
**edit** if what flyinbird93 says is true then that sucks I thought it was free upgrade when trading in your existing phone
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Yes, it's an online only deal, but it seems pretty awesome.
I'm giving up on Verizon since my home area is a known trouble spot, and they're letting me out of my contract for free.
So come on, be honest, let me know all the pros and cons...battery life ? Camera good ? Is Video chat any good ? Is the 4G service good ?

wow. didn't last long. out of stock already

grifforama said:
wow. didn't last long. out of stock already
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Too bad. I scored two for free with a new contract over mothers day weekend. Do not regret it at all. Get on the back order list off you can.
On the moon our weekends are so advanced they encompass the entire week

I'm trying to get my friend to get one but they are out of stock! Sucks!

There is no better phone, even for the 150-300 some could pay for it. I doubled my original speeds in one day just by grabbing the latest updates here. Trying to get my g/f to snag me another s4g for free during this deal for my daughter, its gonna be a family phone here, lol.

Got the same deal
They had this deal about a month and a half back. This is how I ended up with the phone. I switched over from sprint and am loving every minute of it. Not too big on the unlimited data but only 2gb of high speed cap they have in place but its cool. There is a lot going on with this phone right now to make it really bad ass, hell it is a beast completely stock.

i've had the SGS4G for a little over a month and i love it, and its gotten better the past few weeks with all the roms and other dev stuff coming out for it. it's prob just as good as the HTC Sensation for the value since you'd be paying a lot more for the Sensation now. the specs are pretty equal i think, the only thing is that it doesnt have a notification LED and no camera flash/LED either, but thats not too big an issue so i dont mind as much now.

Liquid Smoke said:
i've had the SGS4G for a little over a month and i love it, and its gotten better the past few weeks with all the roms and other dev stuff coming out for it. it's prob just as good as the HTC Sensation for the value since you'd be paying a lot more for the Sensation now. the specs are pretty equal i think, the only thing is that it doesnt have a notification LED and no camera flash/LED either, but thats not too big an issue so i dont mind as much now.
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I have no complaints about the phone myself. I was sad about the internal storage but once you fota fix that problem is solved. As far as notification light - I use Bali kernel which has BLN support. My four buttons on the bottom light up whenever I have a notification. The ext4 mod makes my phone super snappy and responsive and I can't wait until we get voodoo on top of that.
My co-worker used the Sensation over the weekend and said it seems to have some odd connectivity issues when making phone calls/texts/using data. http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/HTC-SENSATION-4G/Sensation-4G-Data-Connectivity-Issues/td-p/875585 Every phone has it's flaws but I hope it isn't plagued by bugs like the G2X (which is an AWESOME phone but just needs a software update).
Don't get me wrong, The Sensation is a beast but I'm not a big fan of Sense UI. I prefer Go Launcher or Launcher Pro. Heck I'd even use the stock Gingerbread launcher over Sense. If you try to run an alternate launcher over Sense it seems to bog the phone down (at least on pre-dual core phones). This probably wont be a problem once they unlock the bootloader though.

Let the results speak for them selves I mean were literally blowing other phone out the water thanks to this community.
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matthenry87 said:
As far as notification light - I use Bali kernel which has BLN support. My four buttons on the bottom light up whenever I have a notification.
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Can you point me in the right direction for this mod? I have frost bionix running, and this mod would just be the icing on the cake. Thanks!
Also, I took advantage of this deal and now my dad will have one of these awesome phones just in time for fathers day. We got the 200 mb data free for a year too. If you take advantage of this deal, make sure to call and ask for free data/10.00 off your data (if you want more than 200 mb)
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Sure. The kernel that bionix comes with has bln support. You need to download the bln app from the market. To make it work you need to push a file to /system/lib/hw. You can find a link to the post that has this file on the bali kernel's thread. It's the fix by chadster I believe.
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Thanks for the info! I appreciate the quick response.
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