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Community issues: Campaign for a fresh start

Hi guys,
You probably already know me from my other threads, mostly the support thread. If not, I would like to give a brief introduction: in june, I received an upgrade from at&t and decided to purchase the infuse 4g my first android phone.
I was thrilled with its performance, and the community started off strong. ROM's were coming out surprisingly fast, actually too fast for me to figure out which one I liked best.
I began to see that the developers threads were getting cluttered up with silly, often repeated questions, so I created a support thread to help lessen the load for the devs. I know it wasn't a perfect solution, but I helped build a small team of people who have been incredibly helpful so far, who I am beyond impressed with.
Now comes the bad part. Even my support thread, originally designed to avoid clutter, has become a landfill of lazy people who don't look for the answer to their question which has been asked and answered 30 times already.
All the devs have been subjected to so much bs that they are afraid to even release their work. Everyone flames everyone like crazy, but none of you guys can help the community. I am disgusted by most of your behaviors, and hope that you see how childish your arguments are.
Now, for my point: this community is still young, and we have accomplished so much already. We have the chance to have one of the strongest development teams out there, and a kick-ass community, in which we look out for each other's best interest.
I would like to propose a way to get things started again: we need a campaign to delete clutter/flame.
Neo works hard, but we need to help him out. Everyone, I urge you to look through your posts, find bad ones, and mark them in some way to be deleted. This is in order to resuscitate this potentially unbeatable community.
Thank you all, and I hope you understand my intentions
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constructive crticism welscome
Moderator's(Neo) intervention was required as gtg's thread was going out of control.
as after his intervention members have started behaving themselves and Neo has removed/locked unnecessary threads this forum is at peace.
let the dead bury the dead and do not remind people again of what happened.
Just post relevant stuff and that is sufficient for everybody.
P.S.
if issues are not resolved then it never will be as no one will accept blame and any such thread will eventually result in blame game.
right now see that people are just paying attention to information,now calling them for campaign is also a distraction.

btpd21 said:
Hi guys,
You probably already know me from my other threads, mostly the support thread. If not, I would like to give a brief introduction: in june, I received an upgrade from at&t and decided to purchase the infuse 4g my first android phone.
I was thrilled with its performance, and the community started off strong. ROM's were coming out surprisingly fast, actually too fast for me to figure out which one I liked best.
I began to see that the developers threads were getting cluttered up with silly, often repeated questions, so I created a support thread to help lessen the load for the devs. I know it wasn't a perfect solution, but I helped build a small team of people who have been incredibly helpful so far, who I am beyond impressed with.
Now comes the bad part. Even my support thread, originally designed to avoid clutter, has become a landfill of lazy people who don't look for the answer to their question which has been asked and answered 30 times already.
All the devs have been subjected to so much bs that they are afraid to even release their work. Everyone flames everyone like crazy, but none of you guys can help the community. I am disgusted by most of your behaviors, and hope that you see how childish your arguments are.
Now, for my point: this community is still young, and we have accomplished so much already. We have the chance to have one of the strongest development teams out there, and a kick-ass community, in which we look out for each other's best interest.
I would like to propose a way to get things started again: we need a campaign to delete clutter/flame.
Neo works hard, but we need to help him out. Everyone, I urge you to look through your posts, find bad ones, and mark them in some way to be deleted. This is in order to resuscitate this potentially unbeatable community.
Thank you all, and I hope you understand my intentions
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Good post!
We need to be able to rule ourselves or somebody else will!
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rohit3192 said:
i am sure that neo will close this thread as this is not required.
Moderator's(Neo) intervention was required as gtg's thread was going out of control.
as after his intervention members have started behaving themselves and Neo has removed/locked unnecessary threads this forum is at peace.
let the dead bury the dead and do not remind people again of what happened.
plz ask Neo to close this thread.
Just post relevant stuff and that is sufficient for everybody.
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Hey, thanks for sharing your opinion with me in a respectful manner. However, I feel that the issue is not yet resolved, and the general forum is definitely the appropriate place to post it. The development is virtually at a standstill and I am not talking about gtg, but the other devs and would be devs who are now discouraged. I find that although your response was polite, it was completely inappropriate, especially considering what my original post stated. If you have an issue with my posts please message in private as opposed to calling me out/ racking up your post count.
Corvette Dave said:
Good post!
We need to be able to rule ourselves or somebody else will!
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Thank you for your support! I appreciate it.
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I doubt the devs read half the crap, and know that most if the quiet folks really enjoy there work, and in no means are they scared to
release there work, but rather punish and don't release, which its necessary to shut alt of people up, can always find them on irc
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I'm glad you guys are willing to help out in getting this show on the road. This can only be done by helpful members, especially the ones who read the rules and abide by them.
I think the main issue at hand is that people tend to speak their mind too often, in situations where a moderator should intervene. The best course of action is to report a post or PM a mod (for the Infuse, that's me ) and let them know what's going on.
I'm not on the board 24/7, so I too can miss stuff. But there are ALWAYS other mods who look after the Infuse forums when I can't, so reporting is the BEST thing you can do.
About "rebooting" the community: People are already getting annoyed by the lazy, demanding types, who don't use the search and just post another question which has been asked a million times before. Well, at least if it's in the Q&A forum, it's controlled. So that's our main focus for now: get people to ask their questions there, instead of the development or general forums.
This thread can stay open, as long as it's constructive criticism. All ideas are welcome, as long as it helps us out, right?

NeoS2007 said:
This thread can stay open, as long as it's constructive criticism. All ideas are welcome, as long as it helps us out, right?
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Neo just as you posted this I was editing my post in this thread.
I was concerned that this thread doesn't become a place for blaming other members or finding faults of others.as long as this stands for supporting devs my vote is there.
Right now I think forum is going well

NeoS2007 said:
About "rebooting" the community: People are already getting annoyed by the lazy, demanding types, who don't use the search and just post another question which has been asked a million times before. Well, at least if it's in the Q&A forum, it's controlled. So that's our main focus for now: get people to ask their questions there, instead of the development or general forums.
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I wasn't aware that there was a Q&A forum until you mentioned it. I'm using the xda app and have the SAMSUNG Infuse 4g as my favorite, but within that category, the Q&A forum isn't listed. I clicked onto the forum tab and scrolled till I found the Q&A forum. Yeah people can search for it, but I wasn't even aware that forum existed. I just suggest adding the forum into the Infuse 4g category. I think there will be less questions asked in the wrong section if it was listed.
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I am guilty of posting topics that I know have been disgust before, the issue that I have and others I'm sure is that the search feature from the app seems to search the entire forum. I think it would be great if a filter feature could be added.
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nash2000 said:
I am guilty of posting topics that I know have been disgust before, the issue that I have and others I'm sure is that the search feature from the app seems to search the entire forum. I think it would be great if a filter feature could be added.
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I will flag this to our admins, so it can be looked into. Thanks for your feedback.

jayson94538 said:
I wasn't aware that there was a Q&A forum until you mentioned it. I'm using the xda app and have the SAMSUNG Infuse 4g as my favorite, but within that category, the Q&A forum isn't listed. I clicked onto the forum tab and scrolled till I found the Q&A forum. Yeah people can search for it, but I wasn't even aware that forum existed. I just suggest adding the forum into the Infuse 4g category. I think there will be less questions asked in the wrong section if it was listed.
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My app shows the Q&A section. But it didn't until I reinstalled. Had to reinstall it after I put CM7 on.

To get the new subforum to show on the app you have to re-add the infuse forum to your favorites.
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apallohadas said:
To get the new subforum to show on the app you have to re-add the infuse forum to your favorites.
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Indeed. Unsubscribe and then resubscribe.
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ZeroIsntTheHero said:
Indeed. Unsubscribe and then resubscribe.
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Heh well that worked. Thank you.
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NeoS2007 said:
I'm glad you guys are willing to help out in getting this show on the road. This can only be done by helpful members, especially the ones who read the rules and abide by them.
I think the main issue at hand is that people tend to speak their mind too often, in situations where a moderator should intervene. The best course of action is to report a post or PM a mod (for the Infuse, that's me ) and let them know what's going on.
I'm not on the board 24/7, so I too can miss stuff. But there are ALWAYS other mods who look after the Infuse forums when I can't, so reporting is the BEST thing you can do.
About "rebooting" the community: People are already getting annoyed by the lazy, demanding types, who don't use the search and just post another question which has been asked a million times before. Well, at least if it's in the Q&A forum, it's controlled. So that's our main focus for now: get people to ask their questions there, instead of the development or general forums.
This thread can stay open, as long as it's constructive criticism. All ideas are welcome, as long as it helps us out, right?
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Thanks for your support. Is there a way we could mark our bad posts to be deleted without reporting ourselves?
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I think alot of people like myself are new android users. I knew nothing 3 months ago about Android then I got the infuse my first smartphone which seems like its a lot of peoples first android. So I admit I posted questions then went and found the answer when I got no replies. I think people just need to understand that this is very fresh for a lot of people. It was ridiculous on gtg's post but on the other hand people got so angry at othrs that knew very little.
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ZeroIsntTheHero said:
Indeed. Unsubscribe and then resubscribe.
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You don't even have to unsubscribe just subscribe again (referring to the xda app)
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And I think another reason why we see a lot of similar topics being posted especially regarding support is because new users (like myself) feel we need support about our specific situation, even tho we may have already read a similar thrend. Its happened to me were I posted help and either ill get a smart reply ie "its been posted 10 times already" or they may reply with a link. The link will be exactly what I've already read but, the thrend doesn't 100% pertain to my situation so I'm afraid I may mess up even more if I follow those steps (its actually already happened,my first brick) This is why we may see a lot of repeat thrends. I usually will encourage my support giver to pm me but I hardly receive any.
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Why not have a separate section for rom support? I realize that sounds goofy but in the rom thread could be development related questions and in support section help and tech support?
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Well, xda-developers is for... DEVELOPERS. Although most people on xda are in it for the custom roms and leeching of apps.
I agree there should be some kind of a "noob sandbox" where new users can ask their questions and get answers from more seasoned users/devs. But how do you guys propose we do that?

[The Petition]**We Need Your Support**

As Galaxy S owners, we are all united. As Android users we are all united. As far as Samsung is concerned we are all NOT created equal. Our device, the Vibrant (SGH-T959), is now being left to the wayside for any future updates from Samsung even though our core specs are extremely similar to the Google Nexus S, which has already received the ICS update. The CyanogenMod team has left us due to the on-going issue of 911/e911 and the lack of the proper code from Samsung to alleviate a potentially fatal result of a custom ROM. It is our intentions to serve Samsung with a petition asking for the update to ICS, which will in-turn, alleviate the 911/e911 issue as well.
We are asking all Galaxy S users to sign this petition to get Samsung to reconsider giving all top end Galaxy S devices the ICS update. Please help us with our goal and sign the petition. If you are on a Galaxy S phone, this affects you too.
Thank you for reading this and please see this link for more details and this link to sign the petition...
Please remember that every sign counts. Whether you believe in the movement or not, still sign. Whether you believe that Samsung will even listen or not, still sign. Whether you have a phone or just browsing the forums phone-less (which would be kinda weird), still sign. When people come together things can happen. Wonderful things. Let's make a difference! One sign at a time
In the words of Ghandi... "First they ignore you . . . then they laugh at you . . . then they fight you . . . then you win."

Dude, this ain't the vibrant forum. But I like your idea.
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airfluip1 said:
Dude, this ain't the vibrant forum. But I like your idea.
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This will be the LAST time I answer this question for this thread.
This is NOT for JUST the Vibrant.
If you took the time to CLICK the petition you would find out this is for ALL CAPABLE GALAXY S VARIANTS. Which involves your device. Please read more thoroughly and read the thread that is central to this for more information.
If you sign, not only do you give all of our devices a chance to get ICS, but just the fact that you NOT signing will bring nothing good, and everything bad.
[email protected], sorry for my pissy mood, i've answered that question atleast 8 times in the fascinate forum and just came here to read that. Nothing against you. I just don't want to answer the exact question 8 times here either.
Every sign counts.

Galaxy S 4G ICS Petition
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The first paragraph of the petition:
Recently many internet news agencies, blogs, forums,…have claimed that Samsung is reevaluating its stance on supplying Galaxy S phones with an update to the newest Android operating system platform, Ice Cream Sandwich (ICS-4.0). It is with great interest that we are monitoring this development and our intention to be on that update list.
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I realize, but I signed it. So have fun.
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Also. @Vibrant owners. Sorry about the 911/e911 thing. It really sucks to be ripped out of a rom. We are trying to get there.(CM7)

airfluip1 said:
Here is A PETITION for SGS4G
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I ASK "ALL" of the SGS4G users to sign.
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It just says, addressed to SGH-T959, and it says that at least Gingerbread. We have Gingerbread, so I just thought it might be a mistake, anyways, I'll sign it. But I would suggest you kind of edit the letter.
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What you're doing is WRONG.
Our petition has almost 1k signs, and we are in the talks to combine it with another petition which has 12k.
All YOUR petition is doing is lessening the chances of ANYONE getting ICS.
You know how ifanboys talk about Android being Fragmented? Thats exactly what you're doing. Fragmenting us. If ALL the Galaxy S had ONE petition to sign, not only would it be simpler, but it would actually BRING some change.
Your petition for JUST the SGS4G will go no where, and i'm willing to bet anything on that. Not only do you guys have a far less user base, but you are pretty much the child of the Vibrant with a thing or two changed. I would like to think of us, specifically our devices being pretty much the same and would love to cooperate with you, but putting a petition that only involves SGS4G will get your forum nowhere.
If you wish to talk more about this, Do it through PMING me do not post in this thread about this, I don't want it cluttered.
Thank you

if you don't want people signing it, I suggest that you edit your reply and remove quote. This way we will remove all links.
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airfluip1 said:
if you don't want people signing it, I suggest that you edit your reply and remove quote. This way we will remove all links.
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Done, and thanks for your cooperation, we're both on the same side

Signed.
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Signed...i really hope this gets us somewhere
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signed.... Bring on the change!

Thanks for the posotive support
Spread the word of this movement as much as you can! Put a link to the petition in your signature even! Together we can bring change!
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Signed, its already over 1000 signatures.

Signed! Great idea man...
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Signed. Hopefully this will get their attention.

Signed. Best of luck to all of us with this. Many thanks to the guys that started this and are keeping it on track.

Signed aswell =)
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Signed.
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1,180 signatures! Keep it up
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Why am I not allowed to ask a simple question in the developers forums????

I'm sorry XDA but this wait ten post thing is retarted. I have to come to Q and A to ask a question that is relevant to something int the developers forums? No one replies to anything in the Q&A anyway. Just my little rant...sorry.

Whets your question and was it a new post you wanted to make?
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Its to try and reduce spam made in the developer forum. Most questions have already been answered in various threads anyways. Unless its something odd or unique

I just wanted to ask a question in the tastemybeans thread which just received an update today. Since the OP didn't put up a change log I simply wanted to ask if the simultaneous voice and data was fixed in the current build. No one else asked this question but this site makes it impossible to new members to ask a simple question like that.

craigrn16 said:
I just wanted to ask a question in the tastemybeans thread which just received an update today. Since the OP didn't put up a change log I simply wanted to ask if the simultaneous voice and data was fixed in the current build. No one else asked this question but this site makes it impossible to new members to ask a simple question like that.
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Because new members generally post new threads in the dev section. They don't read the rules.
I know a lot of others think what I do, there should be a test before getting to post in the dev section. If you fail, no posting, if you pass but don't follow the rules, instant ban.
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craigrn16 said:
I just wanted to ask a question in the tastemybeans thread which just received an update today. Since the OP didn't put up a change log I simply wanted to ask if the simultaneous voice and data was fixed in the current build. No one else asked this question but this site makes it impossible to new members to ask a simple question like that.
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Go around and help 10 people. How about that?
When i first joined the site i never saw any post wait time. Thats right. No selfishness here
Dont thank/like/rep my posts or ill report you.

craigrn16 said:
I'm sorry XDA but this wait ten post thing is retarted. I have to come to Q and A to ask a question that is relevant to something int the developers forums? No one replies to anything in the Q&A anyway. Just my little rant...sorry.
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Taste of beans is just a slightly modified version of incubus26jc tw jb. Follow the incubus26jc thread if you want to see whats coming out. Incubus26jc has been doing all the heavy lifting.
And if you bothered to read the taste of beans thread you would see that remfi said he won't post a change log.
And that is why you cannot post in dev.
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craigrn16 said:
I just wanted to ask a question in the tastemybeans thread which just received an update today. Since the OP didn't put up a change log I simply wanted to ask if the simultaneous voice and data was fixed in the current build. No one else asked this question but this site makes it impossible to new members to ask a simple question like that.
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It would have taken you half the time to flash it and find out then to come here/whine/artificially inflate your post count.
But hey congrats, you are halfway there to being eligible to clog other people's threads on the Development Board :good:

voodoomanx said:
Taste of beans is just a slightly modified version of incubus26jc tw jb. Follow the incubus26jc thread if you want to see whats coming out. Incubus26jc has been doing all the heavy lifting.
And if you bothered to read the taste of beans thread you would see that remfi said he won't post a change log.
And that is why you cannot post in dev.
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nyjumpman said:
It would have taken you half the time to flash it and find out then to come here/whine/artificially inflate your post count.
But hey congrats, you are halfway there to being eligible to clog other people's threads on the Development Board :good:
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douchey much? you guys are the XDA elite and know so much!!! seriously though did you get punked a lot at school by the bullies so you have to bully here? no one i know who has a real life with either school or a job has time to read every post of every thread, or even every post that shows up in a search one does for a particular topic. even then your bound to quickly skip by it if you are skimming. so instead of being dicks welcome a new member to the community and embrace. either way if the OP wants to reply to this thread 5 for times so you get 10 posts go for it... **** everyone else .i think your question and reason to post is legit and yes i read the rules and yes i have been an xda member probably longer than you have been alive.
looks like the OP has been a member for a while too.. just a lurker and not a poster which to me means he better understands the rules more than anyone

^Really?
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I have a full-time job and I'm a full-time single father. Not to mention I have a girlfriend and other obligations.
It's called "search" and "Google".
Stop by if you need a xanax, chief
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1ManWolfePack said:
^Really?
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I have a full-time job and I'm a full-time single father. Not to mention I have a girlfriend and other obligations.
It's called "search" and "Google".
Stop by if you need a xanax, chief
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He has been a member longer than you've been alive, bro.

Zalithian said:
He has been a member longer than you've been alive, bro.
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LOL!
Born in '82 And man, he's stacking up the thanks. 18 in three years? What a helpful dude!
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voodoomanx said:
Taste of beans is just a slightly modified version of incubus26jc tw jb. Follow the incubus26jc thread if you want to see whats coming out. Incubus26jc has been doing all the heavy lifting.
And if you bothered to read the taste of beans thread you would see that remfi said he won't post a change log.
And that is why you cannot post in dev.
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Which has nothing to do with the question I have to ask. The taste of beans was updated TODAY and the Question I wanted to ask was about an update TODAY so regardless if it this is the last update of that Rom or not still doesn't invalidate my question. And for your information I do look through before asking anything and I did also look through incubus26jc thread and realize touchof beans is based on that rom. I may be a noob to XDA (although I signed up a while ago just generally used other android sites) but I'm not new to the rooting, hacking and flashing game. I'm just saying you guys act so Elite in here compared to other sites and it's a very unfriendly atmosphere. You are the proof.

I actually like the ten post rule. I think it should be 50
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The rules are fantastic, I think it should be more than ten thanked posts personally.
The system works well to get you involved with all that's going on in our little neck of the site. I've enjoyed being active for the short time i have been and the process of being involved has answered most questions I would have posted prior as a complete noobs. If your just seeking answers and not participating there is no reason to even consider clogging the dev section.
It was cool to gain access to the dev area, but I have yet to post there. That's because I haven't needed to. Most things ARE covered in q&a.
Leave the devs alone, post your questions like everyone else and it will be answered.
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craigrn16 said:
. . . I'm just saying you guys act so Elite in here compared to other sites and it's a very unfriendly atmosphere. You are the proof.
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Anyone here can be fair-minded and act as such.
You came here and unfortunately whined - I saw one of your earlier posts which had almost the exact same complaints at the time, responded to your post to explain that it's the common practice here and why, yet you never followed up.
Who is creating an unfriendly atmosphere?
You don't seem to be respecting the rules or even care to understand why they were written. We're all equal under such rules, except the Admins/Mods.
- ooofest

craigrn16 said:
Which has nothing to do with the question I have to ask. The taste of beans was updated TODAY and the Question I wanted to ask was about an update TODAY so regardless if it this is the last update of that Rom or not still doesn't invalidate my question. And for your information I do look through before asking anything and I did also look through incubus26jc thread and realize touchof beans is based on that rom. I may be a noob to XDA (although I signed up a while ago just generally used other android sites) but I'm not new to the rooting, hacking and flashing game. I'm just saying you guys act so Elite in here compared to other sites and it's a very unfriendly atmosphere. You are the proof.
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Thanks!
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craigrn16 said:
I just wanted to ask a question in the tastemybeans thread which just received an update today. Since the OP didn't put up a change log I simply wanted to ask if the simultaneous voice and data was fixed in the current build. No one else asked this question but this site makes it impossible to new members to ask a simple question like that.
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Well in the interest of stopping this thread before people start getting bana, no the voice and data it's not fixed and according to the incubus thread probably will not be until we see Verizon leaks (since beans is based off incubus).
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nosympathy said:
Because new members generally post new threads in the dev section. They don't read the rules.
I know a lot of others think what I do, there should be a test before getting to post in the dev section. If you fail, no posting, if you pass but don't follow the rules, instant ban.
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i will play both devils advocate AND supporter of the rules here...
first i just signed up for an account today and tried to post a q in dev and got booted, so i am in q and a answering post to "prove myself" while i dont like the hassle i understand that someone (maybe alot of people) will come here and download a rom, not follow instructions, then try and flame hard working devs or post questions that have been answered over and over. this HAS to be annoying to other logn term members so i understand the ruels in place...
On the flip side i have been actively reading XDA for a while now, i just never posted questions or thanks... however on a post like the kellywiz rom (which is GREAT, using it now with a few reboots but nothing major) their are 187 pages of comments, do you really expect me to read through all pages to find an answer? i dont... i read the last 5 pages or so and if i dont see anything relevant to my issue i goto ask a question...
I see alot of repeat questions on here, not in separate threads (although i only read threads i am interested in) but multiple "useless" seeming coments to post that ask about a problem that was already answered a few pages ago, but the comment's poster asked again, and they have over 100 post to their credit, but they dont read through post either, so whats the actual difference?
i am not bucikng the system, i have belonged to many forums, but long time posters can be just as or more annoying then new posters...

Good response man. It's like starting a new job, no matter your skill set your gonna be treated as inferior. It's just important to follow the rules and not get mad. Strong thought out arguments should go far and set a precedence for the type of user you are.
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Getting a forum for a new device.

Ok so as some of you may know development for the Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G is taking off somewhat and yet XDA is ignoring our requests for a forum in favor of devices that aren't out yet and devices that nobody much has heard of... I am posting this to ask anyone who remembers how long it took the Doubleshot to get its own forum as well as to ask my former community to help US out. (In other words... could y'all hit up the new forum request page and thank our posts/ bump the relay lol? (If this is against xda rules I apologize) or if anyone knows someone who can expedite this situation we'd all appreciate it.
Btw update - anyone wants my DS pm me, flex cable is failed and currently I have disassembled it while grounded and yes I'm tech savvy enough to not fry components. Idk how much to ask but make an offer lol.
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onebornoflight said:
Ok so as some of you may know development for the Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G is taking off somewhat and yet XDA is ignoring our requests for a forum in favor of devices that aren't out yet and devices that nobody much has heard of... I am posting this to ask anyone who remembers how long it took the Doubleshot to get its own forum as well as to ask my former community to help US out. (In other words... could y'all hit up the new forum request page and thank our posts/ bump the relay lol? (If this is against xda rules I apologize) or if anyone knows someone who can expedite this situation we'd all appreciate it.
Btw update - anyone wants my DS pm me, flex cable is failed and currently I have disassembled it while grounded and yes I'm tech savvy enough to not fry components. Idk how much to ask but make an offer lol.
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Maybe XDA has a personal issue with phones with QWERTY keyboards.

We encountered this issue on my previous qwerty device also and believe me we almost got top 2 on the voting thread for new devices yet till now it still don't have any forum of its own. I already asked and the reason why it didn't get its own forum was not because of the lack of the community but instead the lack of real developers to support the device. To quote what the mod I talked to he said that
"XDA-developers" is a forum made for developers. Having even a thousand active members on a specific device but only have a handful of developers won't make it eligible for its own dedicated forum. As much as we'd like to provide every device it's own forum we also consider the cluttering of the forum itself so we are just narrowing down the devices on which we could get more active development than a forum full of average user questions.

Guys try www.sdx-developers.com its a Samsung hacking site
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That's the only thing we can do. I've contacted quite a few mods, and they all told me the same thing. Post in the forum. Sorry, I tried but there's nothing else i can do to expedite the process. it seems that they will only open the forum when they see fit.
@strapped, no offense, but that site seems kinda dead. Just like rootzwiki. Xda will create a thread for you guys eventually. I don't see the point in fragmenting the device across two sites. Keep at it
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The scotsman messaged me back in response to a question I asked and his reply was that the decision is made by forum owners and admins over his head based on development potential of the device.
Now that, my friends, seems to be a bit of a debatable point doesn't it lol?
That being said - does anyone remember how long it took the DS to get a dedicated forum?
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onebornoflight said:
The scotsman messaged me back in response to a question I asked and his reply was that the decision is made by forum owners and admins over his head based on development potential of the device.
Now that, my friends, seems to be a bit of a debatable point doesn't it lol?
That being said - does anyone remember how long it took the DS to get a dedicated forum?
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At least he replied to you...
Lol I never got a reply

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@strapped, no offense, but that site seems kinda dead. Just like rootzwiki. Xda will create a thread for you guys eventually. I don't see the point in fragmenting the device across two sites. Keep at it
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Now that XDA isn't accommodating, creating a dev section for the device there might just be what that site needs to bring it back to life
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gtmaster303 said:
That's the only thing we can do. I've contacted quite a few mods, and they all told me the same thing. Post in the forum. Sorry, I tried but there's nothing else i can do to expedite the process. it seems that they will only open the forum when they see fit.
@strapped, no offense, but that site seems kinda dead. Just like rootzwiki. Xda will create a thread for you guys eventually. I don't see the point in fragmenting the device across two sites. Keep at it
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Well either quit *****ing about xda not making y'all a thread or try to go to sdx. A lot of guys I have dealt with are from sdx. But lemme guess its a popularity contest? Y'all are a trip wanting more then what's needed, and that's just a place to call home, I'm so glad I decided not to get that device as I see most of this community will be.
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Well either quit *****ing about xda not making y'all a thread or try to go to sdx. A lot of guys I have dealt with are from sdx. But lemme guess its a popularity contest? Y'all are a trip wanting more then what's needed, and that's just a place to call home, I'm so glad I decided not to get that device as I see most of this community will be.
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1. I'm not *****ing. I don't even have this device
2. It is a popularity contest. Xda has way more devs and exposure than the site you mentioned. Do I want more than what's needed? Of course. Who wouldn't?
3. Everyone buys a device for X reason. Avoiding a device because of the users is your choice. No one cares if you don't get this device
4. You mad bro?
Honestly I thought we were friends, but I guess not... last person I expected to come out like this was you. Unless my English went bad overnight, someone tell me I'm reading this wrong
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gtmaster303 said:
1. I'm not *****ing. I don't even have this device
2. It is a popularity contest. Xda has way more devs and exposure than the site you mentioned. Do I want more than what's needed? Of course. Who wouldn't?
3. Everyone buys a device for X reason. Avoiding a device because of the users is your choice. No one cares if you don't get this device
4. You mad bro?
Honestly I thought we were friends, but I guess not... last person I expected to come out like this was you. Unless my English went bad overnight, someone tell me I'm reading this wrong
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1. If not *****ing then why not go somewhere that could potentially give a home for that device....on a Samsung hacking site.
2. Popularity? Really, being popular has nothing at all to do with development. The best dev in the world could have this device and with no home, no one would ever know. So wouldn't you rather risk it? I personally post on themikmik sdx and xda.....why more advertisement
4. Is just a personal choice because of what I see in these threads.( device and slider related in general)
5. Mad nah not me, I'm getting the N4 as soon as I save my allowance ( joking )
You got my first morning post and yes I'm tired of sdx getting played. I learned so much from them guys and a few of them brought straight cm code into Sense for a first ever seen mod that everyone uses now. So I don't agree with xda being the holy grail of hackers and only thou can come here for their needs. Xda has really stopped caring for the average user and ONLY CARE ABOUT AD REVENUE and having the devices they feel will get them the most.
So I do wanna say "I'm sorry gtmaster303". Never meant to sound like the shot was at you when it was meant for xda. They need to see and realize their not the only place to come for hacks anymore, so stop treating us like kids and only giving us what XDA wants. If they were really for the user that thread would have been made as soon as something development related could have been posted
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Riyal said:
"XDA-developers" is a forum made for developers. Having even a thousand active members on a specific device but only have a handful of developers won't make it eligible for its own dedicated forum. As much as we'd like to provide every device it's own forum we also consider the cluttering of the forum itself so we are just narrowing down the devices on which we could get more active development than a forum full of average user questions.
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This makes a whole lot of sense.

strapped365 said:
1. If not *****ing then why not go somewhere that could potentially give a home for that device....on a Samsung hacking site.
2. Popularity? Really, being popular has nothing at all to do with development. The best dev in the world could have this device and with no home, no one would ever know. So wouldn't you rather risk it? I personally post on themikmik sdx and xda.....why more advertisement
4. Is just a personal choice because of what I see in these threads.( device and slider related in general)
5. Mad nah not me, I'm getting the N4 as soon as I save my allowance ( joking )
You got my first morning post and yes I'm tired of sdx getting played. I learned so much from them guys and a few of them brought straight cm code into Sense for a first ever seen mod that everyone uses now. So I don't agree with xda being the holy grail of hackers and only thou can come here for their needs. Xda has really stopped caring for the average user and ONLY CARE ABOUT AD REVENUE and having the devices they feel will get them the most.
So I do wanna say "I'm sorry gtmaster303". Never meant to sound like the shot was at you when it was meant for xda. They need to see and realize their not the only place to come for hacks anymore, so stop treating us like kids and only giving us what XDA wants. If they were really for the user that thread would have been made as soon as something development related could have been posted
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Thanks. Although I don't agree with you completely, it's good to know you didn't go rogue on me all of a sudden. If xda wants ad revenue, they would be creating ads for every device out. Although I don't understand why they won't readily create a forum for a device that clearly needs it. I don't agree with their logic. If there's even one dev for a device, a forum should be made. That's like saying "we'll only host the most popular of devices." By that token, popularity should not ensue. And under that jurisdiction, technically the Doubleshot shouldn't exist here either. Our community is quite small, even for a dev community. Most of the daily page hits xda gets from us are the same couple dozen people, some of which login multiple times per day (because they have no life, myself included )
But popularity of the site is still necessary. not that many people know about sdx. When they look for a new phone to buy (devs and modders alike) most will come to xda and poke around to see if the activity is up to their liking. If not, they'll probably search for a new device. Main reason why I haven't switched over to a Captivate Glide or a Droid 4...
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I must be weird then as I bought my device because
1. It was the closest thing to a G3 on the market and
2. I was (and still am) angry with and done with HTC after the lack of ICS on the doubleshot.
Oh and 3. My DS died;(
Nonetheless if we decide to move to that other site I'll have to get an android app for it lol.
I'm growing disgruntled with XDA lately but its kinda like a drug for me... and strapped... this device stock is just about equivalent to my ds when it died with regards to ease of use and overall response. I DO miss a trackpad and the home button lags just a bit... but that could be me having an aftermarket launcher with touchwiz frozen but not uninstalled.
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Lollipop ROM Dev Funding

MOD EDIT

Don't mean to sound rude but it appears that you have never developed anything before. Also your previous threads show that you have trouble rooting your phone and even installing roms.
Is there a track record that can show us what you can do?

This is by far the worst post / thread I've ever seen and in my opinion should be deleted. There was just a discussion the other day and"Devs" who bait ppl into funding them by talks of a "rom" being developed. Your past threads show mainly work on Galaxy phones, and 1 of the very few HTC topics was a thread u started a as not even knowing how to root this phone, yet u claim to have a rom in the works. A real dev would at least show some samples of their work instead of saying"hey ppl, send money for new phone(s) and I'll build u all a rom. If I'm wrong about this, mods please feel free to delete my post and/or PM me, but this seems like a blatant attempt at trolling/baiting people into funding a new phone for u. PEOPLE, PLEASE BE CAUTIOUS IN SITUATIONS SUCH AS THIS,DON'T GO JUMPING IN HEAD FIRST AND OPENING YOUR WALLET TO PEOPLE WITH NO TRACK RECORD,ESPECIALLY WHEN L's RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER.
And if I'm wrong, my apologies, but again,this was just discussed the other day (forget exactly which thread), but your not really giving anybody ANYTHING to go on.

I'm shocked a mod haven't closed this thread
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2936891
FUNNY IN THIS THREAD U INDICATE UR SURPRISED NOBODY HAS A ROM, AND MAYBE U CAN HELP SOMEONE....
"I'm surprised not to see an official lollipop ROM out yet. Source is released. Maybe I can help someone Dev? Let me know. Or maybe I'm missing it 
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That is your own quote from another thread
Doesn't seem like u have anything...
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holla420 said:
I'm shocked a mod haven't closed this thread
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Myself as well. Thread has been reported to 2 different mods... Normally I'm not the type at all to report anything/anybody, but this is BLATANTLY baiting people..

Thread Closed.
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