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Community issues: Campaign for a fresh start

Hi guys,
You probably already know me from my other threads, mostly the support thread. If not, I would like to give a brief introduction: in june, I received an upgrade from at&t and decided to purchase the infuse 4g my first android phone.
I was thrilled with its performance, and the community started off strong. ROM's were coming out surprisingly fast, actually too fast for me to figure out which one I liked best.
I began to see that the developers threads were getting cluttered up with silly, often repeated questions, so I created a support thread to help lessen the load for the devs. I know it wasn't a perfect solution, but I helped build a small team of people who have been incredibly helpful so far, who I am beyond impressed with.
Now comes the bad part. Even my support thread, originally designed to avoid clutter, has become a landfill of lazy people who don't look for the answer to their question which has been asked and answered 30 times already.
All the devs have been subjected to so much bs that they are afraid to even release their work. Everyone flames everyone like crazy, but none of you guys can help the community. I am disgusted by most of your behaviors, and hope that you see how childish your arguments are.
Now, for my point: this community is still young, and we have accomplished so much already. We have the chance to have one of the strongest development teams out there, and a kick-ass community, in which we look out for each other's best interest.
I would like to propose a way to get things started again: we need a campaign to delete clutter/flame.
Neo works hard, but we need to help him out. Everyone, I urge you to look through your posts, find bad ones, and mark them in some way to be deleted. This is in order to resuscitate this potentially unbeatable community.
Thank you all, and I hope you understand my intentions
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constructive crticism welscome
Moderator's(Neo) intervention was required as gtg's thread was going out of control.
as after his intervention members have started behaving themselves and Neo has removed/locked unnecessary threads this forum is at peace.
let the dead bury the dead and do not remind people again of what happened.
Just post relevant stuff and that is sufficient for everybody.
P.S.
if issues are not resolved then it never will be as no one will accept blame and any such thread will eventually result in blame game.
right now see that people are just paying attention to information,now calling them for campaign is also a distraction.

btpd21 said:
Hi guys,
You probably already know me from my other threads, mostly the support thread. If not, I would like to give a brief introduction: in june, I received an upgrade from at&t and decided to purchase the infuse 4g my first android phone.
I was thrilled with its performance, and the community started off strong. ROM's were coming out surprisingly fast, actually too fast for me to figure out which one I liked best.
I began to see that the developers threads were getting cluttered up with silly, often repeated questions, so I created a support thread to help lessen the load for the devs. I know it wasn't a perfect solution, but I helped build a small team of people who have been incredibly helpful so far, who I am beyond impressed with.
Now comes the bad part. Even my support thread, originally designed to avoid clutter, has become a landfill of lazy people who don't look for the answer to their question which has been asked and answered 30 times already.
All the devs have been subjected to so much bs that they are afraid to even release their work. Everyone flames everyone like crazy, but none of you guys can help the community. I am disgusted by most of your behaviors, and hope that you see how childish your arguments are.
Now, for my point: this community is still young, and we have accomplished so much already. We have the chance to have one of the strongest development teams out there, and a kick-ass community, in which we look out for each other's best interest.
I would like to propose a way to get things started again: we need a campaign to delete clutter/flame.
Neo works hard, but we need to help him out. Everyone, I urge you to look through your posts, find bad ones, and mark them in some way to be deleted. This is in order to resuscitate this potentially unbeatable community.
Thank you all, and I hope you understand my intentions
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Good post!
We need to be able to rule ourselves or somebody else will!
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rohit3192 said:
i am sure that neo will close this thread as this is not required.
Moderator's(Neo) intervention was required as gtg's thread was going out of control.
as after his intervention members have started behaving themselves and Neo has removed/locked unnecessary threads this forum is at peace.
let the dead bury the dead and do not remind people again of what happened.
plz ask Neo to close this thread.
Just post relevant stuff and that is sufficient for everybody.
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Hey, thanks for sharing your opinion with me in a respectful manner. However, I feel that the issue is not yet resolved, and the general forum is definitely the appropriate place to post it. The development is virtually at a standstill and I am not talking about gtg, but the other devs and would be devs who are now discouraged. I find that although your response was polite, it was completely inappropriate, especially considering what my original post stated. If you have an issue with my posts please message in private as opposed to calling me out/ racking up your post count.
Corvette Dave said:
Good post!
We need to be able to rule ourselves or somebody else will!
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Thank you for your support! I appreciate it.
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I doubt the devs read half the crap, and know that most if the quiet folks really enjoy there work, and in no means are they scared to
release there work, but rather punish and don't release, which its necessary to shut alt of people up, can always find them on irc
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I'm glad you guys are willing to help out in getting this show on the road. This can only be done by helpful members, especially the ones who read the rules and abide by them.
I think the main issue at hand is that people tend to speak their mind too often, in situations where a moderator should intervene. The best course of action is to report a post or PM a mod (for the Infuse, that's me ) and let them know what's going on.
I'm not on the board 24/7, so I too can miss stuff. But there are ALWAYS other mods who look after the Infuse forums when I can't, so reporting is the BEST thing you can do.
About "rebooting" the community: People are already getting annoyed by the lazy, demanding types, who don't use the search and just post another question which has been asked a million times before. Well, at least if it's in the Q&A forum, it's controlled. So that's our main focus for now: get people to ask their questions there, instead of the development or general forums.
This thread can stay open, as long as it's constructive criticism. All ideas are welcome, as long as it helps us out, right?

NeoS2007 said:
This thread can stay open, as long as it's constructive criticism. All ideas are welcome, as long as it helps us out, right?
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Neo just as you posted this I was editing my post in this thread.
I was concerned that this thread doesn't become a place for blaming other members or finding faults of others.as long as this stands for supporting devs my vote is there.
Right now I think forum is going well

NeoS2007 said:
About "rebooting" the community: People are already getting annoyed by the lazy, demanding types, who don't use the search and just post another question which has been asked a million times before. Well, at least if it's in the Q&A forum, it's controlled. So that's our main focus for now: get people to ask their questions there, instead of the development or general forums.
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I wasn't aware that there was a Q&A forum until you mentioned it. I'm using the xda app and have the SAMSUNG Infuse 4g as my favorite, but within that category, the Q&A forum isn't listed. I clicked onto the forum tab and scrolled till I found the Q&A forum. Yeah people can search for it, but I wasn't even aware that forum existed. I just suggest adding the forum into the Infuse 4g category. I think there will be less questions asked in the wrong section if it was listed.
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I am guilty of posting topics that I know have been disgust before, the issue that I have and others I'm sure is that the search feature from the app seems to search the entire forum. I think it would be great if a filter feature could be added.
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nash2000 said:
I am guilty of posting topics that I know have been disgust before, the issue that I have and others I'm sure is that the search feature from the app seems to search the entire forum. I think it would be great if a filter feature could be added.
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I will flag this to our admins, so it can be looked into. Thanks for your feedback.

jayson94538 said:
I wasn't aware that there was a Q&A forum until you mentioned it. I'm using the xda app and have the SAMSUNG Infuse 4g as my favorite, but within that category, the Q&A forum isn't listed. I clicked onto the forum tab and scrolled till I found the Q&A forum. Yeah people can search for it, but I wasn't even aware that forum existed. I just suggest adding the forum into the Infuse 4g category. I think there will be less questions asked in the wrong section if it was listed.
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My app shows the Q&A section. But it didn't until I reinstalled. Had to reinstall it after I put CM7 on.

To get the new subforum to show on the app you have to re-add the infuse forum to your favorites.
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apallohadas said:
To get the new subforum to show on the app you have to re-add the infuse forum to your favorites.
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Indeed. Unsubscribe and then resubscribe.
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ZeroIsntTheHero said:
Indeed. Unsubscribe and then resubscribe.
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Heh well that worked. Thank you.
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NeoS2007 said:
I'm glad you guys are willing to help out in getting this show on the road. This can only be done by helpful members, especially the ones who read the rules and abide by them.
I think the main issue at hand is that people tend to speak their mind too often, in situations where a moderator should intervene. The best course of action is to report a post or PM a mod (for the Infuse, that's me ) and let them know what's going on.
I'm not on the board 24/7, so I too can miss stuff. But there are ALWAYS other mods who look after the Infuse forums when I can't, so reporting is the BEST thing you can do.
About "rebooting" the community: People are already getting annoyed by the lazy, demanding types, who don't use the search and just post another question which has been asked a million times before. Well, at least if it's in the Q&A forum, it's controlled. So that's our main focus for now: get people to ask their questions there, instead of the development or general forums.
This thread can stay open, as long as it's constructive criticism. All ideas are welcome, as long as it helps us out, right?
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Thanks for your support. Is there a way we could mark our bad posts to be deleted without reporting ourselves?
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I think alot of people like myself are new android users. I knew nothing 3 months ago about Android then I got the infuse my first smartphone which seems like its a lot of peoples first android. So I admit I posted questions then went and found the answer when I got no replies. I think people just need to understand that this is very fresh for a lot of people. It was ridiculous on gtg's post but on the other hand people got so angry at othrs that knew very little.
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ZeroIsntTheHero said:
Indeed. Unsubscribe and then resubscribe.
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You don't even have to unsubscribe just subscribe again (referring to the xda app)
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And I think another reason why we see a lot of similar topics being posted especially regarding support is because new users (like myself) feel we need support about our specific situation, even tho we may have already read a similar thrend. Its happened to me were I posted help and either ill get a smart reply ie "its been posted 10 times already" or they may reply with a link. The link will be exactly what I've already read but, the thrend doesn't 100% pertain to my situation so I'm afraid I may mess up even more if I follow those steps (its actually already happened,my first brick) This is why we may see a lot of repeat thrends. I usually will encourage my support giver to pm me but I hardly receive any.
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Why not have a separate section for rom support? I realize that sounds goofy but in the rom thread could be development related questions and in support section help and tech support?
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Well, xda-developers is for... DEVELOPERS. Although most people on xda are in it for the custom roms and leeching of apps.
I agree there should be some kind of a "noob sandbox" where new users can ask their questions and get answers from more seasoned users/devs. But how do you guys propose we do that?

Why is this site so rude....

I can't stand to read this site these days. Everytime there's a post some self important ass has to jump and tell the person posting just how stupid they are for making the post. If you xda experts don't want to the rest if us here then lock it down. It would be no great loss. There's nothing here that can't be found in 100 other places.
For some reason this site seems to encourage rude moderators that love to trash people especially if someone failed to find existing threads using the terrible search tools provided. Maybe xda just can't carry the weight created by its success. One thing is sure and that is if it doesn't change a lot of people with go elsewhere....
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Just take it with a grain of salt man...there are douches everywhere but I mean without the developers we wouldn't we able to accomplish much, if anything. And most of the other forums I've seen directly get their info or sources from XDA. Its ok, hug time?

Thanks for the hug... It's not about me I can hold my own and enjoy giving it back. What bothers me is when someone clearly struggling to post and is asking for hlep (And English may not even be their language) then one of these dicks trashes them. I just looked at one where a guy asked how to find a specific item, he got an answer that said check the xxxxx forum and we are not your slave so don't expect us to do it for you. Who talks like that and why aren't they stomped on for acting that way. He gave an answer then added the boot. I see that everywhere here.
The people who respond here do it for their own reasons. It's nice when people help and I have found some helpful threads. Still when I see stuff like the one above I start to think there are people here who get off on acting that way. Being a developer doesn't mean doing sick stuff is OK.
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Yeah I agree but I mean some people are gonna be douches regardless of the question asked. I'm also inclined to think there are more decent people on XDA that like helping people as opposed to bashing them so even if the douche answers first, doesnt mean he represents XDA...

and this is why people lurk...
...or ... why i have lurked for so long
but now i just dont care...
so.... here goes nothing

There should be a Douche button, just like a Thanks button.
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Because ppl cant Read and have very poor direction following skills and it gets old quick.
rdbwpb said:
I can't stand to read this site these days. Everytime there's a post some self important ass has to jump and tell the person posting just how stupid they are for making the post. If you xda experts don't want to the rest if us here then lock it down. It would be no great loss. There's nothing here that can't be found in 100 other places.
For some reason this site seems to encourage rude moderators that love to trash people especially if someone failed to find existing threads using the terrible search tools provided. Maybe xda just can't carry the weight created by its success. One thing is sure and that is if it doesn't change a lot of people with go elsewhere....
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Cactoes Gel said:
There should be a Douche button, just like a Thanks button.
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+1
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While I don't agree with people being rude please understand that this is a developers site. Not a tech support site, not a rom flashing site, and not a cool place to be site. It was made by developers for developers. And sometimes people can get rude. That is what the report button is for.

I like this site, and the way I see it,
They are sick of repeat posts, it's like people aren't bothering even looking anymore for what they need, they just post... As I have made that mistake a few times... That said i my self use the Site for my personal use or for the work I do but I ALWAYS give credit where it counts and is a great site for this Canadian to learn the ways of the DROID...
Also i mean maybe some devs like to poke fun, maybe they are tired of people taking time away from thier great works... Who knows, I talk to, a few decent people on here and have learnt alot and intended on learning more when my desktop is back up and running...
Sent from the past on my Nexus S using the XDA... The cake is a lie... Answer is 42...

People can read and most do try looking before posting but even if they don't it doesn't give you a right treat them poorly.
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i agree, xda really needs a douchee button. im also new here, but i been using the forums for a while, just rencently registered and i have gotten all the info i need, so basicly yes, the douches are somewhat right, but they should just say it a little more politely

I just saying that there is no excuse for treating posters badly. I've been a registered user for more than a year but I find myself coming here less and less because I can find as good or better info on other sites and most don't have the xda attitude.
I want to be clear that most people don't act this way and that plenty of nice helpful people respond here every day. The point I'm making is that there are a few that need to be cleaned up. I hadn't thought of the report button but in the future I will use it freely. Maybe that will get the attention of the powers that be.
It would be interesting to start a thread on the xda **** of the day. People could cut and paste insulting behavior into the thread including the name of the poster. Every day/week members could vote. I bet it would dry up fast....:thumbup:
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Same Old Same Old
zelendel said:
While I don't agree with people being rude please understand that this is a developers site. Not a tech support site, not a rom flashing site, and not a cool place to be site. It was made by developers for developers. And sometimes people can get rude. That is what the report button is for.
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Really, Really???
Makes me laugh when people chant that mantra of "this is a developers site. Not a tech support site, not a rom flashing site......". maybe when the site was made 5,6 years ago it was a developers site. But things grow and evolve as is in the human nature. XDA has evolved into more than just a Dev site, its a site for development, education and learning.
It amuses me when people try to alienate the devs from the users. Don't give excuses for rude or egotistical people, if someone is in doubt, use your knowledge to help him or shut up. afterall, the great devs of today all learnt from scratch. Nobody was born with code in their brain from the womb (except chuck norris ). Because the way this site is going its going to drive users away from its fold.
And when you succeed in alienating the noobs, and xda becomes a dev-only site, who will test the bugs in the developers' software? how will developed apps get publicity? I know some devs who've made alot of money from donations for their software; heck, this site's servers are supported by donations from users.
XDA is a leader in development and mobile collaboration and we've seen the amount of clout and influence XDA has, the mobile companies HTC,Samsung, motorola all hear the voice of XDA (as evidenced by htc's bootloader unlocking, htc dev, making motorola answer for locking bootloaders) but dont think that XDA will have such influence if all of the over 4 million users are gone and like 1000 developers ( if they are even that many) remain.
Also I'm not excusing some very stupid people who ask the wrong questions, and don't follow rules.for example, I only registered here last year but I've followed this site for 3 years. If I had a problem, I also come here to search and I always got my answer. I only had to register when I got the lenovo thinkpad, which didn't have any active development forum so I could post a question. So I guess I'm one of those who likes to search before posting.
The summary of everything I just said is help people who are truly in need of it, (not the silly ones) and XDA isn't a dev only site.

rdbwpb said:
People can read and most do try looking before posting but even if they don't it doesn't give you a right treat them poorly.
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Well I disagree on this one point, if they don't take the time to try and look it up and find it on their own it does give you the right to be a little rude, because that's pretty rude of them, expecting you to take time out of your day to give them an answer when they don't take any of their own time to even try..but, of course, I'm not in favor of going crazy on them..just enough let them know that's unacceptable

I don't like rude people too, and I met quite a few here...
I do am agree thus, that newcomers should look VERY well into the proper thread and all over XDA site.
I like to help when I can and if I can, but I have seen more and more often people asking simple questions like:
"someone can show me some guide?" or " does an xperia thread exist?"
Well don't need help really for this question, is just enough to search..
I guess developers or user generally can get tired of this.
However I am agree that some users normally answer by jokes or in a rude way, although people like this could be everywhere..

Sometimes you have to be rude to let people know they should google first before they post a question

zelendel said:
While I don't agree with people being rude please understand that this is a developers site. Not a tech support site, not a rom flashing site, and not a cool place to be site. It was made by developers for developers. And sometimes people can get rude. That is what the report button is for.
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Yes I agree with you
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thewarhawk said:
Well I disagree on this one point, if they don't take the time to try and look it up and find it on their own it does give you the right to be a little rude, because that's pretty rude of them, expecting you to take time out of your day to give them an answer when they don't take any of their own time to even try..but, of course, I'm not in favor of going crazy on them..just enough let them know that's unacceptable
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I think most users dont consider themselves entitled or expect any helpful posts in regards to their questions, I'm sure they're just hoping someone can point them into the right direction. I've searched and gathered everything I needed to know myself but its not like I ever expected another user to help me. I figure if users want to help other users, awesome, but don't give attitude when doing so.

Hasht4g said:
Sometimes you have to be rude to let people know they should google first before they post a question
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I understand but to a point, there's no need to curse at someone and be rude just because he asked a question even if its been asked before a 1000 times, if you don't like the question he asked then don't answer it, I see that a lot on here, noob ask a question then gets an answer "why do you ask so many questions?" I thought to myself why does it matter to you its a q&a forum, just skip over the post or answer the question with some respect without rude remarks
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Bad news from Virtuous Team

"and over the next few days we will be moving all active threads from XDA over to Rootz."
http://www.virtuousrom.com
Looks like their are living XDA
i am very dissapointed for this, i am using their rom's for some time as the only daily alternative to stock roms.

draghiciandrei said:
"and over the next few days we will be moving all active threads from XDA over to Rootz."
http://www.virtuousrom.com
Looks like their are living XDA
i am very dissapointed for this, i am using their rom's for some time as the only daily alternative to stock roms.
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Wow, that's a real shame. But to be honest, i don't blame them. All the devs seem to be moving there.
At least one good thing came out of it. It seems they have released a sense 4.0 ROM (still based on primo) for the Desire S.
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/21164-rom22-03-2012x-series-virtuous-primadonna-v1120-alpha-1/

Wow..... the Desire s section SINKS....

Not only the desire s section, they are movong all their active topics for all devices supported by them.
From my point of view it's a huge hit for XDA
With no disrespect for the remaining developers. I do appreciate their work also.
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That's a real shame. I thought XDA was more popular? Why the change?
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"By moving there we have more control over our threads and can work on building a friendly community for our users."
with now hidden intention or disrespect for neither of the two communities i really don't
understand their move because from my point of view we can't compare the forums, XDA is a way better option, more populated, more experienced etc.
some other reason may be that they will be more exclusively on that forum or they may had same uglly discussions with the forum management.
Either way i am very sorry for this decision, i was very happy with XDA i had all the information& news here and i rarely visited other forums for smartphones knowledge.

Wow that sucks.
But anyway I tried the beta 4.0. And i was no happy camper.
My phone had regular reboots, thats not excactly what a phone should do
But meanwhile using Ice Cold Sandwich I don't have any reboots any more.
BTT: Can't understand that, though having not that much control. There is quite a lot of traffic on XDA diffrent to Rootz i guess.
So some people won't discover Virtous..

The reason they left was stupid behaviour by the people see the post below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23937418&postcount=962
Swyped from my HTC Desire S....

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and you said that my posts where harsh

suku_patel_22 said:
The reason they left was stupid behaviour by the people see the post below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23937418&postcount=962
Swyped from my HTC Desire S....
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Granted, the posts were mean but don't justify relocating. In my native tongue, we say "decapitation isn't the cure-all for headaches". It might as well recur at the new forum but I guess it's more than mere ETA *****ing (sorry for the foul language). My take? Here it goes:
Well, I really loved it here with them. Needless to say, prior to now, I never before now checked out other forums since discovering XDA. I guess I'll have to check the Virtuous homepage from time to time. No prompt updates anymore. No flashing within an hour of ROM release. I truly wish they'd reconsider the total move (or even rescind the decision. I see no harm in keeping even if a single Virtuous thread in XDA). But that's all I can do - wish. XDA may have taken a hit but is by no means any less magnificent because of it. I'd implore them to stroll by & contribute from time to time. We haven't excommunicated them.
On a final note, this ought not inspire a massive de-camping to other forums. If you must, open alternate accounts in other forums. But let XDA keep outshining all others out there.

what a lost

[Q] Difference between Android 4.0.3 and 4.0.4?

Can someone list any comprehensive changes between the two?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history#Ice_Cream_Sandwich_4.0.x

Obviously its easy for anyone to cite Wiki, but I was asking if there was anything they may have left out. Wiki is not always the most.reliable source for accuracy and comprehensive coverage pertaining to detail sometimes.

megagodx said:
Obviously its easy for anyone to cite Wiki, but I was asking if there was anything they may have left out. Wiki is not always the most.reliable source for accuracy and comprehensive coverage pertaining to detail sometimes.
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Then search for yourself, or flash them both and see.
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lazy noob
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Wow you're a jerk
What's wrong with helping a fellow forum member out without making them feel useless. I'm tired of this behavior on xda. So immature.
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awarbrick89 said:
Wow you're a jerk
What's wrong with helping a fellow forum member out without making them feel useless. I'm tired of this behavior on xda. So immature.
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You can't get on xda ask how something is or what's better from us. Because those of us that do flash and venture out find out on our own. This entire post is pointless. Strong with you the newness is.
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awarbrick89 said:
Wow you're a jerk
What's wrong with helping a fellow forum member out without making them feel useless. I'm tired of this behavior on xda. So immature.
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Its a little tough here on xda but its true that you need to try it out yourself and see what the difference is...personally between the 4.0.3 and 4.0.4 leaks we have, I noticed that 4.0.4 seems to be a lot smoother for me and battery drain seems a little better but I'm going to have to wait for a complete power cycle before I can confirm this

mjwhirly said:
personally between the 4.0.3 and 4.0.4 leaks we have, I noticed that 4.0.4 seems to be a lot smoother for me and battery drain seems a little better
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Which ROM are you using?
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awarbrick89 said:
Wow you're a jerk
What's wrong with helping a fellow forum member out without making them feel useless. I'm tired of this behavior on xda. So immature.
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At least someone answered his noob post...I put one up and no one chimes in...hehehehe
I'm not really offended, but entertained that others get offended so easily.

bbackowski said:
At least someone answered his noob post...I put one up and no one chimes in...hehehehe
I'm not really offended, but entertained that others get offended so easily.
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Not just in reply to this but the whole thing. I found this post looking for, well an answer the question that was initially asked. And very quickly pressed the back button on the browser and regoogled. I think the point is XDA is for a higher calibre level of experience and technical understanding and not for your day to day stuff you could read in a geek magazine, or Android Forums for example. Am I right? Just so I know not to make the mistake myself coz u guys get nasty

This threads been reported
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Illnevertell said:
This threads been reported
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I know this thread is old, just wanted to point out what huge an Impact that had apparently
And I don't know how I never noticed this at the time, But you guys didn't either.
He never asked which was better, he asked what the major changes were,
Why would you guys suggest someone go through the steps required to install a new android version, instead of just answering their question............ Noobs aren't the problem, the arrogant behavior of the experienced members however..

Thanks for bringing back a year old + thread to let us know.
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awarbrick89 said:
I know this thread is old, just wanted to point out what huge an Impact that had apparently
And I don't know how I never noticed this at the time, But you guys didn't either.
He never asked which was better, he asked what the major changes were,
Why would you guys suggest someone go through the steps required to install a new android version, instead of just answering their question............ Noobs aren't the problem, the arrogant behavior of the experienced members however..
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I disagree, the community itself was built on the backs of do it yourselfers who spent a lot of time and effort to learn and share development, sources, and ideas. The mentality of xda has changed from that of the do it yourselfer spitballing ideas on better code implementation or how to get things working to that of a help desk where it's no longer a community striving to improve and learn they just want things now. Most are content never knowing the effort involved in compiling a ROM or how to modify an apk, hell most can't even use adb to capture logs. The issue here is most certainly complacency amongst newer members. The mentality needs to change in order to see improvement, that's why you see these old timers so grumpy because honestly it's ridiculous the amount of easily searchable questions run through xda.
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I've been thinking maybe a sister site is needed. XDAusers sounds about right. Send all the "I want it now and I won't search" types over that way. Unfortunately, it's not that simple. Some will help with devving, some will cry like a two year old when they get a bootloop. It takes all kinds. One thing I have noticed though. Those that can search and read are almost never heard from. Why? Because they search and read. A catch-22 at its finest.

btm fdr said:
Thanks for bringing back a year old + thread to let us know.
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Any Time

Complaints thread (cons)

Post all complaints on this thread I will keep a list of all of them
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My only complaint is that the One X seems to attract all the biggest babies to XDA that make completely unnecessary threads, such as this one.

Agree.. there's plenty of threads about the issues of this phone.
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_MetalHead_ said:
My only complaint is that the One X seems to attract all the biggest babies to XDA that make completely unnecessary threads, such as this one.
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This.
Thread needs to be closed.

Why? Someone is trying to put all the info in one place. If you don't like it, don't read it. It's called "freedom".
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c5satellite2 said:
Why? Someone is trying to put all the info in one place. If you don't like it, don't read it. It's called "freedom".
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yeaht thanks alot thats all im trying instead of people such as the first couple poster posting threads bout every single issue jsut one thread that covers all in one

Yes he is trying to help you don't see a comment section in xda so this is a plus even though it's about cons of a phone...
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c5satellite2 said:
Why? Someone is trying to put all the info in one place. If you don't like it, don't read it. It's called "freedom".
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True, but it also is becoming clutter. People aren't going to stop posting in the threads already started to say the same things here, so it's just adding to the pile.

Reamer09 said:
True, but it also is becoming clutter. People aren't going to stop posting in the threads already started to say the same things here, so it's just adding to the pile.
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This exactly. Consolidated complaint threads NEVER work.

Bootloader is still locked
now close the thread.

Thanks, but...
thanks for giving this a shot, but there is already a forum dedicated entirely to complaints; its called Engadget.

This thread has been hijacked and is defeating the purpose. Can someone please delete all the posts other than the op so it can be relevant.
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I'm not sure why people feel the need to create redundant threads either. Maybe it makes them feel cool that they're the op? What not just add relevant discussion to threads that are already ongoing? And even after they get all this info together, they are the same people that ask really dumb questions in development threads lol...Complain on the HTC website.

fitchpuckman said:
thanks for giving this a shot, but there is already a forum dedicated entirely to complaints; its called Engadget.
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+1
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I hate that my iPhone has more gbs and has the wifis
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My complaint is this, take the phone back to the store and grab something else. Real talk. If it doesnt suit your needs, get something different. Real simple. I'm personally not gonna keep anything that I have complaints about, especially for the money it cost. Take it back!
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I really think people forget what it means to be an early adopter.

_MetalHead_ said:
I really think people forget what it means to be an early adopter.
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+1000

Im amazed at how different the communities are for various android phones.
Coming from iphones the last 3 years , i bought my first android phone (galaxy nexus) and the community was great, made me happy to make the switch.
Ive moved on to the one x and can safely say this is getting the the point of pathetic. On one hand we have people crying about the smallest of issues , then on the other, we have total hard asses constantly flooding the posts with their unnecessary comments (which is just as annoying).
grow up people

aimetti said:
Im amazed at how different the communities are for various android phones.
Coming from iphones the last 3 years , i bought my first android phone (galaxy nexus) and the community was great, made me happy to make the switch.
Ive moved on to the one x and can safely say this is getting the the point of pathetic. On one hand we have people crying about the smallest of issues , then on the other, we have total hard asses constantly flooding the posts with their unnecessary comments (which is just as annoying).
grow up people
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I hope you aren't basing this mindset solely on what you've found in this thread, because this is hardly the prime example of what the HOX forums have to offer. In fact, I would say it's a very poor sampling. If you look around these forums you are surely going to find a bit complaining and trolling, but for the most part you are going to see that there is wonderful collaboration, praise, thanking, sharing, and comradery on a fairly remarkable level. If you dont like it, please feel free to find another device or forum that suits you better. But dont come here to flood a complaint thread with complaints about complaining, you're just perpetuating that which you allegedly find pathetic. Also keep in mind that these threads are quite new and the moderators are working hard to maintain decency and integrity herein.