[Q] Difference between Android 4.0.3 and 4.0.4? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727

Can someone list any comprehensive changes between the two?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history#Ice_Cream_Sandwich_4.0.x

Obviously its easy for anyone to cite Wiki, but I was asking if there was anything they may have left out. Wiki is not always the most.reliable source for accuracy and comprehensive coverage pertaining to detail sometimes.

megagodx said:
Obviously its easy for anyone to cite Wiki, but I was asking if there was anything they may have left out. Wiki is not always the most.reliable source for accuracy and comprehensive coverage pertaining to detail sometimes.
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Then search for yourself, or flash them both and see.
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lazy noob
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Wow you're a jerk
What's wrong with helping a fellow forum member out without making them feel useless. I'm tired of this behavior on xda. So immature.
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awarbrick89 said:
Wow you're a jerk
What's wrong with helping a fellow forum member out without making them feel useless. I'm tired of this behavior on xda. So immature.
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You can't get on xda ask how something is or what's better from us. Because those of us that do flash and venture out find out on our own. This entire post is pointless. Strong with you the newness is.
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awarbrick89 said:
Wow you're a jerk
What's wrong with helping a fellow forum member out without making them feel useless. I'm tired of this behavior on xda. So immature.
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Its a little tough here on xda but its true that you need to try it out yourself and see what the difference is...personally between the 4.0.3 and 4.0.4 leaks we have, I noticed that 4.0.4 seems to be a lot smoother for me and battery drain seems a little better but I'm going to have to wait for a complete power cycle before I can confirm this

mjwhirly said:
personally between the 4.0.3 and 4.0.4 leaks we have, I noticed that 4.0.4 seems to be a lot smoother for me and battery drain seems a little better
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Which ROM are you using?
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awarbrick89 said:
Wow you're a jerk
What's wrong with helping a fellow forum member out without making them feel useless. I'm tired of this behavior on xda. So immature.
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At least someone answered his noob post...I put one up and no one chimes in...hehehehe
I'm not really offended, but entertained that others get offended so easily.

bbackowski said:
At least someone answered his noob post...I put one up and no one chimes in...hehehehe
I'm not really offended, but entertained that others get offended so easily.
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Not just in reply to this but the whole thing. I found this post looking for, well an answer the question that was initially asked. And very quickly pressed the back button on the browser and regoogled. I think the point is XDA is for a higher calibre level of experience and technical understanding and not for your day to day stuff you could read in a geek magazine, or Android Forums for example. Am I right? Just so I know not to make the mistake myself coz u guys get nasty

This threads been reported
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Illnevertell said:
This threads been reported
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I know this thread is old, just wanted to point out what huge an Impact that had apparently
And I don't know how I never noticed this at the time, But you guys didn't either.
He never asked which was better, he asked what the major changes were,
Why would you guys suggest someone go through the steps required to install a new android version, instead of just answering their question............ Noobs aren't the problem, the arrogant behavior of the experienced members however..

Thanks for bringing back a year old + thread to let us know.
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awarbrick89 said:
I know this thread is old, just wanted to point out what huge an Impact that had apparently
And I don't know how I never noticed this at the time, But you guys didn't either.
He never asked which was better, he asked what the major changes were,
Why would you guys suggest someone go through the steps required to install a new android version, instead of just answering their question............ Noobs aren't the problem, the arrogant behavior of the experienced members however..
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I disagree, the community itself was built on the backs of do it yourselfers who spent a lot of time and effort to learn and share development, sources, and ideas. The mentality of xda has changed from that of the do it yourselfer spitballing ideas on better code implementation or how to get things working to that of a help desk where it's no longer a community striving to improve and learn they just want things now. Most are content never knowing the effort involved in compiling a ROM or how to modify an apk, hell most can't even use adb to capture logs. The issue here is most certainly complacency amongst newer members. The mentality needs to change in order to see improvement, that's why you see these old timers so grumpy because honestly it's ridiculous the amount of easily searchable questions run through xda.
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I've been thinking maybe a sister site is needed. XDAusers sounds about right. Send all the "I want it now and I won't search" types over that way. Unfortunately, it's not that simple. Some will help with devving, some will cry like a two year old when they get a bootloop. It takes all kinds. One thing I have noticed though. Those that can search and read are almost never heard from. Why? Because they search and read. A catch-22 at its finest.

btm fdr said:
Thanks for bringing back a year old + thread to let us know.
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noob questions

im still new to this but im running leedroid 3.2.1. and i hear people talk about over clock and was wondering what it was i already dl the setcpu bt idk how to use it. also was wondering if i were to change to a different rom how would i do that just save new rom on sd card and install? another thing is when i loaded the lee droid my phone says its a desire and rom manager doesnt work it keeps saying rom manger has stopped. thanks for the help in advance
2nr808 said:
im still new to this but im running leedroid 3.2.1. and i hear people talk about over clock and was wondering what it was i already dl the setcpu bt idk how to use it. also was wondering if i were to change to a different rom how would i do that just save new rom on sd card and install? another thing is when i loaded the lee droid my phone says its a desire and rom manager doesnt work it keeps saying rom manger has stopped. thanks for the help in advance
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These are basic questions that have been answered 1000 times before.
You'd be amazed at how beneficial a little time spent searching would be...
First off let me apologize for Scotts response to you. It was neither helpful or informative.
In order to better help you, give us more details about the rommanager errors that you recieve. Have you considered flashing to another ROM? I use virtuous unity (now v1.25) and think it is rad. Overclocking is a pretty advanced skillset and difficult to master even for old pros. My inspire let's my ROM do the clicking for me, I love it.
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imbmiller said:
First off let me apologize for Scotts response to you. It was neither helpful or informative.
In order to better help you, give us more details about the rommanager errors that you recieve. Have you considered flashing to another ROM? I use virtuous unity (now v1.25) and think it is rad. Overclocking is a pretty advanced skillset and difficult to master even for old pros. My inspire let's my ROM do the clicking for me, I love it.
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Lolololol
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First off let me apologize for Scotts response to you. It was neither helpful or informative.
In order to better help you, give us more details about the rommanager errors that you recieve. Have you considered flashing to another ROM? I use virtuous unity (now v1.25) and think it is rad. Overclocking is a pretty advanced skillset and difficult to master even for old pros. My inspire let's my ROM do the clicking for me, I love it.
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Lolololol
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What was the point in posting that?
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King Askaba said:
What was the point in posting that?
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I dunno this Scott fellow's responses often have me at least chuckling if not LOL'ing.
imbmiller said:
First off let me apologize for Scotts response to you. It was neither helpful or informative.
In order to better help you, give us more details about the rommanager errors that you recieve. Have you considered flashing to another ROM? I use virtuous unity (now v1.25) and think it is rad. Overclocking is a pretty advanced skillset and difficult to master even for old pros. My inspire let's my ROM do the clicking for me, I love it.
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I agree. It wasn't nearly as helpful or informative as a simple search would have been.
You can apologize all you want for me, but I stand by what I said because it's forum rules-- often the same thing is mentioned by Mods just before they lock a thread.
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I dunno this Scott fellow's responses often have me at least chuckling if not LOL'ing.
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He has a good point though. Sad thing is hes just telling people the same things over and over again. And its the truth search and I guarantee 9 times out of 10 you'll find the answer you need.
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He has a good point though. Sad thing is hes just telling people the same things over and over again. And its the truth search and I guarantee 9 times out of 10 you'll find the answer you need.
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I agree. The search function does answer most questions, and searching would be much less taxing if the forums weren't cluttered with new threads asking the same ol' questions...and I still think this Scott fellows responses are funny . Not apologizing for him or endorsing him at all. But I laugh .
meiguoguizi said:
I agree. The search function does answer most questions, and searching would be much less taxing if the forums weren't cluttered with new threads asking the same ol' questions...and I still think this Scott fellows responses are funny . Not apologizing for him or endorsing him at all. But I laugh .
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You and me both. And your right if they weren't so cluttered. But if you type your whole question in the search bar you tend to pull up the exact answer you need. Maybe I'll make a sticky on how to use the search feature lol.
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Carlrobling said:
You and me both. And your right if they weren't so cluttered. But if you type your whole question in the search bar you tend to pull up the exact answer you need. Maybe I'll make a sticky on how to use the search feature lol.
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This is true. Also using Google if the XDA search doesn't yield what one wants.
meiguoguizi said:
I agree. The search function does answer most questions, and searching would be much less taxing if the forums weren't cluttered with new threads asking the same ol' questions...and I still think this Scott fellows responses are funny . Not apologizing for him or endorsing him at all. But I laugh .
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My ears were burning for good reason.
Just to clarify... My post history speaks for itself. I'd say 6 or 7 out of every 10 of my posts are actually helping people, the other 3 or 4 of the 10 are telling it like it is.
I try to make them as sarcastic as I feel the situation requires, and trust me, it gets worse, but I restrain myself.
1 or 2 of those 3 or 4 "not so helpful" posts of mine, I'll often come back to the thread later on, and, if the poster has offered some degree of acknowledgement or reasonable justification for their lapse, I'll often apologize and even help... at that point.
Why not just help them in the first place?
Great question, glad you asked!
It's called. . . wait for it. . . behavior modification.
I've never started a single new thread, and I've managed to learn quite a bit in a short time. There's no excuse for others not using the existing knowledgebase that is already available to them here on XDA.
I feel it's only fair that people make a reasonable attempt to carry their fair share of the load... Learning how this **** works a little. . . just a little. . . on their own first, instead of assuming everyone here as nothing better to do than sit around waiting for the honor of answering the same questions over and over and over again.
Because if you don't nip it in the bud, often times, some people take it for granted, and start posting every little question that flows through their mind.
You aren't helping those people, you're making them lazy, and setting them up to get flamed harder in the future.
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Scott_S said:
My ears were burning for good reason.
Just to clarify... My post history speaks for itself. I'd say 6 or 7 out of every 10 of my posts are actually helping people, the other 3 or 4 of the 10 are telling it like it is.
I try to make them as sarcastic as I feel the situation requires, and trust me, it gets worse, but I restrain myself.
1 or 2 of those 3 or 4 "not so helpful" posts of mine, I'll often come back to the thread later on, and, if the poster has offered some degree of acknowledgement or reasonable justification for their lapse, I'll often apologize and even help... at that point.
Why not just help them in the first place?
Great question, glad you asked!
It's called. . . wait for it. . . behavior modification.
I've never started a single new thread, and I've managed to learn quite a bit in a short time. There's no excuse for others not using the existing knowledgebase that is already available to them here on XDA.
I feel it's only fair that people make a reasonable attempt to carry their fair share of the load... Learning how this **** works a little. . . just a little. . . on their own first, instead of assuming everyone here as nothing better to do than sit around waiting for the honor of answering the same questions over and over and over again.
Because if you don't nip it in the bud, often times, some people take it for granted, and start posting every little question that flows through their mind.
You aren't helping those people, you're making them lazy, and setting them up to get flamed harder in the future.
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You already know where I stand on this Scott. We've had this same discussion lol. We both see this issue the same. Keep up the good fight lol.
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Carlrobling said:
You already know where I stand on this Scott. We've had this same discussion lol. We both see this issue the same. Keep up the good fight lol.
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Indeed. I mean, it's next to impossible not to come off sounding like a prick. How does one get the message across otherwise?
Like I said, it's all in the way the initial question is posed that determines for me the way I'll respond, and the context.
When it comes to radios, I usually help with no reservations whatsoever, because it's a little trickier than other stuff, people get tripped-up on the different methods out there, and because it could mess up your phone if the perfect storm of events comes to pass for somebody.
imbmiller said:
First off let me apologize for Scotts response to you. It was neither helpful or informative.
In order to better help you, give us more details about the rommanager errors that you recieve. Have you considered flashing to another ROM? I use virtuous unity (now v1.25) and think it is rad. Overclocking is a pretty advanced skillset and difficult to master even for old pros. My inspire let's my ROM do the clicking for me, I love it.
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says rom manager (process.comkoushikdutta.rommanager has stopped.
yea i tried searching for the overclock bt didnt quite understand and i guess ill just search nvm lol thanks for the help though
Scott_S said:
Indeed. I mean, it's next to impossible not to come off sounding like a prick. How does one get the message across otherwise?
Like I said, it's all in the way the initial question is posed that determines for me the way I'll respond, and the context.
When it comes to radios, I usually help with no reservations whatsoever, because it's a little trickier than other stuff, people get tripped-up on the different methods out there, and because it could mess up your phone if the perfect storm of events comes to pass for somebody.
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I agree there are some issues I'll help on no matter what.
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2nr808 said:
says rom manager (process.comkoushikdutta.rommanager has stopped.
yea i tried searching for the overclock bt didnt quite understand and i guess ill just search nvm lol thanks for the help though
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Over clocking has gotten a little more difficult in certain roms. For instance,I run unity,and with the newer version they say don't use set CPU. Set CPU is just easier and does the work for you. Make sure to read the lee Droid thread through and through to see what others have had the best of luck with. As far as searching try "lee Droid overclock" to see if you can narrow it down quicker. The answer is out there,and with a little motivation you will be answering your own questions in no time. Also,don't be offended by any member that post a somewhat rude post,because those are the poeple who 9 times outta 10 answered the same question a million times. By these member being blunt,it sometimes actually helps the situation. What I do if someone answers my question with "its already been answered",I assume they have answered it somewhere or,since they know where the answer is,I go to there profile and read through the post's to help narrow it down. If you look through my profile I started a lot of threads my self,but quit because by sitting back and watching you learn more. Hell lately I haven't even been active in the dev threads lol. Anyways,best of luck to you new comer. It all gets easier in time
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Community issues: Campaign for a fresh start

Hi guys,
You probably already know me from my other threads, mostly the support thread. If not, I would like to give a brief introduction: in june, I received an upgrade from at&t and decided to purchase the infuse 4g my first android phone.
I was thrilled with its performance, and the community started off strong. ROM's were coming out surprisingly fast, actually too fast for me to figure out which one I liked best.
I began to see that the developers threads were getting cluttered up with silly, often repeated questions, so I created a support thread to help lessen the load for the devs. I know it wasn't a perfect solution, but I helped build a small team of people who have been incredibly helpful so far, who I am beyond impressed with.
Now comes the bad part. Even my support thread, originally designed to avoid clutter, has become a landfill of lazy people who don't look for the answer to their question which has been asked and answered 30 times already.
All the devs have been subjected to so much bs that they are afraid to even release their work. Everyone flames everyone like crazy, but none of you guys can help the community. I am disgusted by most of your behaviors, and hope that you see how childish your arguments are.
Now, for my point: this community is still young, and we have accomplished so much already. We have the chance to have one of the strongest development teams out there, and a kick-ass community, in which we look out for each other's best interest.
I would like to propose a way to get things started again: we need a campaign to delete clutter/flame.
Neo works hard, but we need to help him out. Everyone, I urge you to look through your posts, find bad ones, and mark them in some way to be deleted. This is in order to resuscitate this potentially unbeatable community.
Thank you all, and I hope you understand my intentions
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constructive crticism welscome
Moderator's(Neo) intervention was required as gtg's thread was going out of control.
as after his intervention members have started behaving themselves and Neo has removed/locked unnecessary threads this forum is at peace.
let the dead bury the dead and do not remind people again of what happened.
Just post relevant stuff and that is sufficient for everybody.
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if issues are not resolved then it never will be as no one will accept blame and any such thread will eventually result in blame game.
right now see that people are just paying attention to information,now calling them for campaign is also a distraction.
btpd21 said:
Hi guys,
You probably already know me from my other threads, mostly the support thread. If not, I would like to give a brief introduction: in june, I received an upgrade from at&t and decided to purchase the infuse 4g my first android phone.
I was thrilled with its performance, and the community started off strong. ROM's were coming out surprisingly fast, actually too fast for me to figure out which one I liked best.
I began to see that the developers threads were getting cluttered up with silly, often repeated questions, so I created a support thread to help lessen the load for the devs. I know it wasn't a perfect solution, but I helped build a small team of people who have been incredibly helpful so far, who I am beyond impressed with.
Now comes the bad part. Even my support thread, originally designed to avoid clutter, has become a landfill of lazy people who don't look for the answer to their question which has been asked and answered 30 times already.
All the devs have been subjected to so much bs that they are afraid to even release their work. Everyone flames everyone like crazy, but none of you guys can help the community. I am disgusted by most of your behaviors, and hope that you see how childish your arguments are.
Now, for my point: this community is still young, and we have accomplished so much already. We have the chance to have one of the strongest development teams out there, and a kick-ass community, in which we look out for each other's best interest.
I would like to propose a way to get things started again: we need a campaign to delete clutter/flame.
Neo works hard, but we need to help him out. Everyone, I urge you to look through your posts, find bad ones, and mark them in some way to be deleted. This is in order to resuscitate this potentially unbeatable community.
Thank you all, and I hope you understand my intentions
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Good post!
We need to be able to rule ourselves or somebody else will!
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rohit3192 said:
i am sure that neo will close this thread as this is not required.
Moderator's(Neo) intervention was required as gtg's thread was going out of control.
as after his intervention members have started behaving themselves and Neo has removed/locked unnecessary threads this forum is at peace.
let the dead bury the dead and do not remind people again of what happened.
plz ask Neo to close this thread.
Just post relevant stuff and that is sufficient for everybody.
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Hey, thanks for sharing your opinion with me in a respectful manner. However, I feel that the issue is not yet resolved, and the general forum is definitely the appropriate place to post it. The development is virtually at a standstill and I am not talking about gtg, but the other devs and would be devs who are now discouraged. I find that although your response was polite, it was completely inappropriate, especially considering what my original post stated. If you have an issue with my posts please message in private as opposed to calling me out/ racking up your post count.
Corvette Dave said:
Good post!
We need to be able to rule ourselves or somebody else will!
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Thank you for your support! I appreciate it.
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I doubt the devs read half the crap, and know that most if the quiet folks really enjoy there work, and in no means are they scared to
release there work, but rather punish and don't release, which its necessary to shut alt of people up, can always find them on irc
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I'm glad you guys are willing to help out in getting this show on the road. This can only be done by helpful members, especially the ones who read the rules and abide by them.
I think the main issue at hand is that people tend to speak their mind too often, in situations where a moderator should intervene. The best course of action is to report a post or PM a mod (for the Infuse, that's me ) and let them know what's going on.
I'm not on the board 24/7, so I too can miss stuff. But there are ALWAYS other mods who look after the Infuse forums when I can't, so reporting is the BEST thing you can do.
About "rebooting" the community: People are already getting annoyed by the lazy, demanding types, who don't use the search and just post another question which has been asked a million times before. Well, at least if it's in the Q&A forum, it's controlled. So that's our main focus for now: get people to ask their questions there, instead of the development or general forums.
This thread can stay open, as long as it's constructive criticism. All ideas are welcome, as long as it helps us out, right?
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This thread can stay open, as long as it's constructive criticism. All ideas are welcome, as long as it helps us out, right?
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Neo just as you posted this I was editing my post in this thread.
I was concerned that this thread doesn't become a place for blaming other members or finding faults of others.as long as this stands for supporting devs my vote is there.
Right now I think forum is going well
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About "rebooting" the community: People are already getting annoyed by the lazy, demanding types, who don't use the search and just post another question which has been asked a million times before. Well, at least if it's in the Q&A forum, it's controlled. So that's our main focus for now: get people to ask their questions there, instead of the development or general forums.
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I wasn't aware that there was a Q&A forum until you mentioned it. I'm using the xda app and have the SAMSUNG Infuse 4g as my favorite, but within that category, the Q&A forum isn't listed. I clicked onto the forum tab and scrolled till I found the Q&A forum. Yeah people can search for it, but I wasn't even aware that forum existed. I just suggest adding the forum into the Infuse 4g category. I think there will be less questions asked in the wrong section if it was listed.
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I am guilty of posting topics that I know have been disgust before, the issue that I have and others I'm sure is that the search feature from the app seems to search the entire forum. I think it would be great if a filter feature could be added.
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I am guilty of posting topics that I know have been disgust before, the issue that I have and others I'm sure is that the search feature from the app seems to search the entire forum. I think it would be great if a filter feature could be added.
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I will flag this to our admins, so it can be looked into. Thanks for your feedback.
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I wasn't aware that there was a Q&A forum until you mentioned it. I'm using the xda app and have the SAMSUNG Infuse 4g as my favorite, but within that category, the Q&A forum isn't listed. I clicked onto the forum tab and scrolled till I found the Q&A forum. Yeah people can search for it, but I wasn't even aware that forum existed. I just suggest adding the forum into the Infuse 4g category. I think there will be less questions asked in the wrong section if it was listed.
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My app shows the Q&A section. But it didn't until I reinstalled. Had to reinstall it after I put CM7 on.
To get the new subforum to show on the app you have to re-add the infuse forum to your favorites.
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To get the new subforum to show on the app you have to re-add the infuse forum to your favorites.
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Indeed. Unsubscribe and then resubscribe.
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Indeed. Unsubscribe and then resubscribe.
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Heh well that worked. Thank you.
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NeoS2007 said:
I'm glad you guys are willing to help out in getting this show on the road. This can only be done by helpful members, especially the ones who read the rules and abide by them.
I think the main issue at hand is that people tend to speak their mind too often, in situations where a moderator should intervene. The best course of action is to report a post or PM a mod (for the Infuse, that's me ) and let them know what's going on.
I'm not on the board 24/7, so I too can miss stuff. But there are ALWAYS other mods who look after the Infuse forums when I can't, so reporting is the BEST thing you can do.
About "rebooting" the community: People are already getting annoyed by the lazy, demanding types, who don't use the search and just post another question which has been asked a million times before. Well, at least if it's in the Q&A forum, it's controlled. So that's our main focus for now: get people to ask their questions there, instead of the development or general forums.
This thread can stay open, as long as it's constructive criticism. All ideas are welcome, as long as it helps us out, right?
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Thanks for your support. Is there a way we could mark our bad posts to be deleted without reporting ourselves?
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I think alot of people like myself are new android users. I knew nothing 3 months ago about Android then I got the infuse my first smartphone which seems like its a lot of peoples first android. So I admit I posted questions then went and found the answer when I got no replies. I think people just need to understand that this is very fresh for a lot of people. It was ridiculous on gtg's post but on the other hand people got so angry at othrs that knew very little.
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ZeroIsntTheHero said:
Indeed. Unsubscribe and then resubscribe.
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You don't even have to unsubscribe just subscribe again (referring to the xda app)
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And I think another reason why we see a lot of similar topics being posted especially regarding support is because new users (like myself) feel we need support about our specific situation, even tho we may have already read a similar thrend. Its happened to me were I posted help and either ill get a smart reply ie "its been posted 10 times already" or they may reply with a link. The link will be exactly what I've already read but, the thrend doesn't 100% pertain to my situation so I'm afraid I may mess up even more if I follow those steps (its actually already happened,my first brick) This is why we may see a lot of repeat thrends. I usually will encourage my support giver to pm me but I hardly receive any.
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Why not have a separate section for rom support? I realize that sounds goofy but in the rom thread could be development related questions and in support section help and tech support?
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Well, xda-developers is for... DEVELOPERS. Although most people on xda are in it for the custom roms and leeching of apps.
I agree there should be some kind of a "noob sandbox" where new users can ask their questions and get answers from more seasoned users/devs. But how do you guys propose we do that?

CM7/AOSP/ICS Discussion Thread.

Hey there everyone.
I'm from the Vibrant section, and I have some questions for you Galaxy S 4G users, please do know I searched around, but I thought it'd be best to have all the information anyone had on this particular topic all in one thread, so if anyone feels this is useless, feel free to delete it, I'm just trying to gain some knowledge. My girlfriend has a GS4G, and although the devs have done a great job modding Samsung's ROMs.. they don't compare to AOSP ROMs in my opinion.
Now, for the questions.
1. Why is it we can't get a working kernel to boot for the GS4G? (Someone please do explain in detail.)
2. How far has someone gone/gotten? (I know krylon handed the work to someone, but I don't think they've reported back?)
And please, no stupid answers. This is pure discussion. If a kernel dev is what we need, I could try to find one that's willing to work with me, but we'd need testers and such.
From what I heard and read around, you guys don't have any devs thats capable of doing that.
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From what I heard and read around, you guys don't have any devs thats capable of doing that.
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Lol
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Surfacet said:
From what I heard and read around, you guys don't have any devs thats capable of doing that.
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Capable of doing what, exactly?
Surfacet said:
From what I heard and read around, you guys don't have any devs thats capable of doing that.
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sgs2 fourm that way bra <<<
He said sgs4G
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theexel said:
Hey there everyone.
I'm from the Vibrant section, and I have some questions for you Galaxy S 4G users, please do know I searched around, but I thought it'd be best to have all the information anyone had on this particular topic all in one thread, so if anyone feels this is useless, feel free to delete it, I'm just trying to gain some knowledge. My girlfriend has a GS4G, and although the devs have done a great job modding Samsung's ROMs.. they don't compare to AOSP ROMs in my opinion.
Now, for the questions.
1. Why is it we can't get a working kernel to boot for the GS4G? (Someone please do explain in detail.)
2. How far has someone gone/gotten? (I know krylon handed the work to someone, but I don't think they've reported back?)
And please, no stupid answers. This is pure discussion. If a kernel dev is what we need, I could try to find one that's willing to work with me, but we'd need testers and such.
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We are already working on this now. Read through my kernel thread. I have specific milestones to getting cm7 on our phone. I will not skip steps to get to cm7 sooner, compromising stability and functionality. If you want to help, please pm me.
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We are already working on this now. Read through my kernel thread. I have specific milestones to getting cm7 on our phone. I will not skip steps to get to cm7 sooner, compromising stability and functionality. If you want to help, please pm me.
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Yep, just checked your replies on Rootz Wiki, sorry, I didn't notice that earlier.
But like I said, this thread isn't meant to rush anyone or say someone can't do something, simply for discussion and information. Thanks for taking the time to reply.
For real this thread again!? I'm going to kill myself. Can't bear it.
Wait... better idea! Lets flame the OP!
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From what I heard and read around, you guys don't have any devs thats capable of doing that.
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haha bh will make you eat your words
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For real this thread again!? I'm going to kill myself. Can't bear it.
Wait... better idea! Lets flame the OP!
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Alright, flame me.. because I'm definitely doing something wrong. I'm in no way demanding an ETA or even demanding anyone to start working on this, I simply wanted to group the information anyone knows so we could help each other.. you know.. kind of what a community does?
Guys, being cynical and trolling won't get us anywhere, and tell you the truth, it's childish and starting to bore.
The guy said he wanted a technical status summary and specifically said he wants to help.
In this case, i think we do need to maintain a thread of work chords and specify the barriers.
I thank every new dev with a will to help.
I think he deserves a different attitude than a noob, especially if we don't want to scare all devs from here.
That's my opinion anyway.
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From what I heard and read around, you guys don't have any devs thats capable of doing that.
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hahah XXDDD
Sorry I didn't respond sooner. I had life happen
I see the usual knee scuffs and bruises hit this thread too. I really wish people wouldn't post if doesn't help move the thread forward.
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Anyways... back on topic... :clears throat:
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Yep, just checked your replies on Rootz Wiki, sorry, I didn't notice that earlier.
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It's ok. I've responded to a few of these threads. It's surprising how many people don't click 'search' and search for 'cm7' or 'cyanogenmod'. I also don't expect people to read both rootz and xda. So if you read my op on the kernel thread, I have a "Plans" section (on both forums!).
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But like I said, this thread isn't meant to rush anyone or say someone can't do something, simply for discussion and information. Thanks for taking the time to reply.
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If you want to help, pm me.
Starting threads like these without searching only causes trolling and thread thrash (a lot of useless threads in the forum that blur the current state).
When you read what I'm saying, imagine a skinny geek with a deep helpful-relaxed voice... and a smile
A lot of people take me the wrong way. I'm a geek. I read and write code. I don't like wasting my time making you feel all warm and fuzzy.
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Guys, being cynical and trolling won't get us anywhere, and tell you the truth, it's childish and starting to bore.
The guy said he wanted a technical status summary and specifically said he wants to help.
In this case, i think we do need to maintain a thread of work chords and specify the barriers.
I thank every new dev with a will to help.
I think he deserves a different attitude than a noob, especially if we don't want to scare all devs from here.
That's my opinion anyway.
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This.
10 Char.
Lets keep this thread going I am also wondering how come there is so little development here but what developers we have are dedicated!
We have great developers that work hard on cm. The sgs 4g is the problem of not having it, freaking sammy with their experiments. i really enjoy their masterpieces(devs). Op you just have to have some patience, cm will come to us i believe in our devs.
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I simply wanted to group the information anyone knows so we could help each other.. you know.. kind of what a community does?
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Then why didn't you group all the information that is already available in the 50 other threads about CM7 into this one?
if you really wanted to do that, you could have made your OP a summary with bullet points of the details of everything that was already discussed, and then updated it with new information that comes along.
did you even search at all??
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Then why didn't you group all the information that is already available in the 50 other threads about CM7 into this one?
if you really wanted to do that, you could have made your OP a summary with bullet points of the details of everything that was already discussed, and then updated it with new information that comes along.
did you even search at all??
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Before flaming and insulting did you notice the date on the first post?
Personally I think the person that cast the raise dead spell should be getting beat with the flame bat.
I swear sometimes people are too eager to flame somebody. Its like they had a bad day come to xda to post behind a anonymous screen name and then walk away feeling better. But that is just me, Im sure my observation is wrong.
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Then why didn't you group all the information that is already available in the 50 other threads about CM7 into this one?
if you really wanted to do that, you could have made your OP a summary with bullet points of the details of everything that was already discussed, and then updated it with new information that comes along.
did you even search at all??
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First of all, this has never been my primary device. I have never owned this device. I used to own the Samsung Vibrant, now I own a Nexus S. My girlfriend owned a Galaxy S 4G, and was using her phone to try to bring something new to you guys. (First ICS theme for this device ring a bell?) It's not my job to group 50 other threads about CM7 into this one. That's not what a community is. I am in no way a recognized developer, I know my stuff, but I have a long way to go. But it's people like you that make devs want to leave and stop posting their stuff. You swear people have time to do everything. And indeed that was my intention, but I wasn't going to pull useless information from other threads that members have posted, that are often inaccurate. This thread was mostly meant for devs, that could actually help out, and working together.
In other news, I finally have some time to mess around with stuff, might look into more themes or something, but I lack a device to work on, so I guess if some people would like to help (testing, etc.) I'd be glad to push things out from time to time.

[Q] OTA out of nowhere. Can't install it - what's going on?

Today (10/27) I got notified of an OTA on my Skyrocket, and I haven't heard anything about one. I am running 4.0.4, rooted, with CWMR v5.5.0.4.
I did a nandroid backup, backed up all my apps with TB, and set SuperSU to survival mode. Then I let the OTA download, it installed and then it rebooted - into recovery. I continued the reboot from CWMR and when it finished the boot, the OTA said it was interrupted and couldn't finish. I cannot find a zip file on the phone anywhere to manually flash.
Tried this twice with the same result. What is going on? Where did this OTA come from anyway? What should I do? I think rebooting into recovery is interrupting the process somehow, but I am at a loss as to what to do now.
Any help is greatly appreciated!
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Today (10/27) I got notified of an OTA on my Skyrocket, and I haven't heard anything about one. I am running 4.0.4, rooted, with CWMR v5.5.0.4.
I did a nandroid backup, backed up all my apps with TB, and set SuperSU to survival mode. Then I let the OTA download, it installed and then it rebooted - into recovery. I continued the reboot from CWMR and when it finished the boot, the OTA said it was interrupted and couldn't finish. I cannot find a zip file on the phone anywhere to manually flash.
Tried this twice with the same result. What is going on? Where did this OTA come from anyway? What should I do? I think rebooting into recovery is interrupting the process somehow, but I am at a loss as to what to do now.
Any help is greatly appreciated!
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YOU CAN NOT INSTALL A OTA WITH A CUSTOM RECOVERY READ THE 10 OTHER THREADS ABOUT THIS OTA
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Gee, thanks. Sorry I posted without checking thoroughly - I just did a quick Google search and didn't come up with anything, so I asked.
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Gee, thanks. Sorry I posted without checking thoroughly - I just did a quick Google search and didn't come up with anything, so I asked.
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Pshhh, amazing.
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xcrazydx Im feelin you need to make a stickie for each UPDATE thread that comes out LMAO its like noob heaven of question on the same related update
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xcrazydx Im feelin you need to make a stickie for each UPDATE thread that comes out LMAO its like noob heaven of question on the same related update
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It really amazes me how lazy people are these days. They didn't see the other 100 threads before they made 10 more new ones? Come on guys!
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So this post could've been left at one reply telling the guy that he can't install and should've looked in general. But no, feeling the need to further stomp the guy into the dirt was at the top of the priority list. If you saw someone already make the point, why not report and move on? Saves a lot more time.
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@xcrazydx
I'm not really lazy, I just don't have all day to hang out on a forum like some other people. I told you that I did a quick search and when I couldn't find an answer, I asked a question - in the Q&A section.
Sorry I'm not an expert in everything and ruined your day by asking a question.
You could have just ignored my post, but I guess you needed to prove how superior you are. I'd looked at some of your posts and a lot are like the one above - no help, lots of ego.
Thanks for the no help. The whole point of this forum is share information and help each other out. Guess you missed that stickie.
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@xcrazydx
I'm not really lazy, I just don't have all day to hang out on a forum like some other people. I told you that I did a quick search and when I couldn't find an answer, I asked a question - in the Q&A section.
Sorry I'm not an expert in everything and ruined your day by asking a question.
You could have just ignored my post, but I guess you needed to prove how superior you are. I'd looked at some of your posts and a lot are like the one above - no help, lots of ego.
Thanks for the no help. The whole point of this forum is share information and help each other out. Guess you missed that stickie.
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In his defense I was able to find an answer to your question on Google fairly quickly, but then again I have no clue what you Googled.
Still, the first reply gave an answer to your question and crazy came in well after that was posted. He didn't have to, yet he went out of his way to make you feel like crap.
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OTA Update can not be Done on Rooted phone. Not worth going back to stock for this Little Update. Wait for Jelly Bean....
He didn't make me feel like crap - complete strangers do not do that for me. It's just annoying because posts like that can drive people away.
However, I did feel bad after I realized that there were several other threads on the same topic. I usually make an effort to avoid duplicate posts, but in this case I was in something of a hurry. In any event, I found my answer - I'm not taking the update, it's not worth the effort to go back to stock recovery.
Thanks!
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@xcrazydx
I'm not really lazy, I just don't have all day to hang out on a forum like some other people. I told you that I did a quick search and when I couldn't find an answer, I asked a question - in the Q&A section.
Sorry I'm not an expert in everything and ruined your day by asking a question.
You could have just ignored my post, but I guess you needed to prove how superior you are. I'd looked at some of your posts and a lot are like the one above - no help, lots of ego.
Thanks for the no help. The whole point of this forum is share information and help each other out. Guess you missed that stickie.
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Wrong, this forum is for developers not lazy users who can't operate Google efficiently.
Carry on and have a nice day
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Wrong, this forum is for developers not lazy users who can't operate Google efficiently.
Carry on and have a nice day
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It may have started that way years ago, but you should look around. There's lots of plain simple regular users here now, looking for answers.
Peace
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There's a good amount of normal people on here. If the site was how you describe it they shouldn't let anyone who isn't a developer join. "U NO MAKE ROMS OR KERNELS U NO WORTHY OF FORUM" is basically what's spewing from your mouth. Have whoever's in charge kick every single member off of the site if they're not a dev since that's the attitude you wanna have.
Otherwise, stop being such a damn bully and stop giving the site a bad rep. He made a mistake and got his answer. You clicked the thread, saw the answer and still decided to pummel him. That's called "being an asshole".
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There's a good amount of normal people on here. If the site was how you describe it they shouldn't let anyone who isn't a developer join. "U NO MAKE ROMS OR KERNELS U NO WORTHY OF FORUM" is basically what's spewing from your mouth. Have whoever's in charge kick every single member off of the site if they're not a dev since that's the attitude you wanna have.
Otherwise, stop being such a damn bully and stop giving the site a bad rep. He made a mistake and got his answer. You clicked the thread, saw the answer and still decided to pummel him. That's called "being an asshole".
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Very cool story. However, the forum is called xda developers and this is a place for developers. Read the rules and ask the moderators what this place is about, and they will tell you the same thing. Also, you have a potty mouth.
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The basis of my post was that not everyone on here is a dev, regardless of if the site is called xda developers. Don't throw that up as an excuse to be a jerk because he's not the only non-developer in this forum or on the site.
And stuff like this makes me angry. Like, I could understand if you gave him an answer and then laid into him, but you just flamed him. My apology for swearing.
You wanna talk rules? Try reading section 2.5 under forum & marketplace rules.
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sly-tendencies said:
The basis of my post was that not everyone on here is a dev, regardless of if the site is called xda developers. Don't throw that up as an excuse to be a jerk because he's not the only non-developer in this forum or on the site.
And stuff like this makes me angry. Like, I could understand if you gave him an answer and then laid into him, but you just flamed him. My apology for swearing.
You wanna talk rules? Try reading section 2.5 under forum & marketplace rules.
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I don't like lazy people. This generation is the laziest, most pathetic I've ever seen. You can either make an effort to change it or make it worse. Your choice, man.
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I don't like lazy people. This generation is the laziest, most pathetic I've ever seen. You can either make an effort to change it or make it worse. Your choice, man.
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That I can get behind. But there's also nothing wrong with a friendly reminder of the rules on researching first. Emphasis on friendly.
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sly-tendencies said:
That I can get behind. But there's also nothing wrong with a friendly reminder of the rules on researching first. Emphasis on friendly.
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Roger that, I'm in.
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I don't understand why people even care about ota's.
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Getting a forum for a new device.

Ok so as some of you may know development for the Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G is taking off somewhat and yet XDA is ignoring our requests for a forum in favor of devices that aren't out yet and devices that nobody much has heard of... I am posting this to ask anyone who remembers how long it took the Doubleshot to get its own forum as well as to ask my former community to help US out. (In other words... could y'all hit up the new forum request page and thank our posts/ bump the relay lol? (If this is against xda rules I apologize) or if anyone knows someone who can expedite this situation we'd all appreciate it.
Btw update - anyone wants my DS pm me, flex cable is failed and currently I have disassembled it while grounded and yes I'm tech savvy enough to not fry components. Idk how much to ask but make an offer lol.
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onebornoflight said:
Ok so as some of you may know development for the Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G is taking off somewhat and yet XDA is ignoring our requests for a forum in favor of devices that aren't out yet and devices that nobody much has heard of... I am posting this to ask anyone who remembers how long it took the Doubleshot to get its own forum as well as to ask my former community to help US out. (In other words... could y'all hit up the new forum request page and thank our posts/ bump the relay lol? (If this is against xda rules I apologize) or if anyone knows someone who can expedite this situation we'd all appreciate it.
Btw update - anyone wants my DS pm me, flex cable is failed and currently I have disassembled it while grounded and yes I'm tech savvy enough to not fry components. Idk how much to ask but make an offer lol.
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Maybe XDA has a personal issue with phones with QWERTY keyboards.
We encountered this issue on my previous qwerty device also and believe me we almost got top 2 on the voting thread for new devices yet till now it still don't have any forum of its own. I already asked and the reason why it didn't get its own forum was not because of the lack of the community but instead the lack of real developers to support the device. To quote what the mod I talked to he said that
"XDA-developers" is a forum made for developers. Having even a thousand active members on a specific device but only have a handful of developers won't make it eligible for its own dedicated forum. As much as we'd like to provide every device it's own forum we also consider the cluttering of the forum itself so we are just narrowing down the devices on which we could get more active development than a forum full of average user questions.
Guys try www.sdx-developers.com its a Samsung hacking site
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That's the only thing we can do. I've contacted quite a few mods, and they all told me the same thing. Post in the forum. Sorry, I tried but there's nothing else i can do to expedite the process. it seems that they will only open the forum when they see fit.
@strapped, no offense, but that site seems kinda dead. Just like rootzwiki. Xda will create a thread for you guys eventually. I don't see the point in fragmenting the device across two sites. Keep at it
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The scotsman messaged me back in response to a question I asked and his reply was that the decision is made by forum owners and admins over his head based on development potential of the device.
Now that, my friends, seems to be a bit of a debatable point doesn't it lol?
That being said - does anyone remember how long it took the DS to get a dedicated forum?
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onebornoflight said:
The scotsman messaged me back in response to a question I asked and his reply was that the decision is made by forum owners and admins over his head based on development potential of the device.
Now that, my friends, seems to be a bit of a debatable point doesn't it lol?
That being said - does anyone remember how long it took the DS to get a dedicated forum?
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At least he replied to you...
Lol I never got a reply
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@strapped, no offense, but that site seems kinda dead. Just like rootzwiki. Xda will create a thread for you guys eventually. I don't see the point in fragmenting the device across two sites. Keep at it
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Now that XDA isn't accommodating, creating a dev section for the device there might just be what that site needs to bring it back to life
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That's the only thing we can do. I've contacted quite a few mods, and they all told me the same thing. Post in the forum. Sorry, I tried but there's nothing else i can do to expedite the process. it seems that they will only open the forum when they see fit.
@strapped, no offense, but that site seems kinda dead. Just like rootzwiki. Xda will create a thread for you guys eventually. I don't see the point in fragmenting the device across two sites. Keep at it
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Well either quit *****ing about xda not making y'all a thread or try to go to sdx. A lot of guys I have dealt with are from sdx. But lemme guess its a popularity contest? Y'all are a trip wanting more then what's needed, and that's just a place to call home, I'm so glad I decided not to get that device as I see most of this community will be.
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Well either quit *****ing about xda not making y'all a thread or try to go to sdx. A lot of guys I have dealt with are from sdx. But lemme guess its a popularity contest? Y'all are a trip wanting more then what's needed, and that's just a place to call home, I'm so glad I decided not to get that device as I see most of this community will be.
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1. I'm not *****ing. I don't even have this device
2. It is a popularity contest. Xda has way more devs and exposure than the site you mentioned. Do I want more than what's needed? Of course. Who wouldn't?
3. Everyone buys a device for X reason. Avoiding a device because of the users is your choice. No one cares if you don't get this device
4. You mad bro?
Honestly I thought we were friends, but I guess not... last person I expected to come out like this was you. Unless my English went bad overnight, someone tell me I'm reading this wrong
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gtmaster303 said:
1. I'm not *****ing. I don't even have this device
2. It is a popularity contest. Xda has way more devs and exposure than the site you mentioned. Do I want more than what's needed? Of course. Who wouldn't?
3. Everyone buys a device for X reason. Avoiding a device because of the users is your choice. No one cares if you don't get this device
4. You mad bro?
Honestly I thought we were friends, but I guess not... last person I expected to come out like this was you. Unless my English went bad overnight, someone tell me I'm reading this wrong
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1. If not *****ing then why not go somewhere that could potentially give a home for that device....on a Samsung hacking site.
2. Popularity? Really, being popular has nothing at all to do with development. The best dev in the world could have this device and with no home, no one would ever know. So wouldn't you rather risk it? I personally post on themikmik sdx and xda.....why more advertisement
4. Is just a personal choice because of what I see in these threads.( device and slider related in general)
5. Mad nah not me, I'm getting the N4 as soon as I save my allowance ( joking )
You got my first morning post and yes I'm tired of sdx getting played. I learned so much from them guys and a few of them brought straight cm code into Sense for a first ever seen mod that everyone uses now. So I don't agree with xda being the holy grail of hackers and only thou can come here for their needs. Xda has really stopped caring for the average user and ONLY CARE ABOUT AD REVENUE and having the devices they feel will get them the most.
So I do wanna say "I'm sorry gtmaster303". Never meant to sound like the shot was at you when it was meant for xda. They need to see and realize their not the only place to come for hacks anymore, so stop treating us like kids and only giving us what XDA wants. If they were really for the user that thread would have been made as soon as something development related could have been posted
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Riyal said:
"XDA-developers" is a forum made for developers. Having even a thousand active members on a specific device but only have a handful of developers won't make it eligible for its own dedicated forum. As much as we'd like to provide every device it's own forum we also consider the cluttering of the forum itself so we are just narrowing down the devices on which we could get more active development than a forum full of average user questions.
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This makes a whole lot of sense.
strapped365 said:
1. If not *****ing then why not go somewhere that could potentially give a home for that device....on a Samsung hacking site.
2. Popularity? Really, being popular has nothing at all to do with development. The best dev in the world could have this device and with no home, no one would ever know. So wouldn't you rather risk it? I personally post on themikmik sdx and xda.....why more advertisement
4. Is just a personal choice because of what I see in these threads.( device and slider related in general)
5. Mad nah not me, I'm getting the N4 as soon as I save my allowance ( joking )
You got my first morning post and yes I'm tired of sdx getting played. I learned so much from them guys and a few of them brought straight cm code into Sense for a first ever seen mod that everyone uses now. So I don't agree with xda being the holy grail of hackers and only thou can come here for their needs. Xda has really stopped caring for the average user and ONLY CARE ABOUT AD REVENUE and having the devices they feel will get them the most.
So I do wanna say "I'm sorry gtmaster303". Never meant to sound like the shot was at you when it was meant for xda. They need to see and realize their not the only place to come for hacks anymore, so stop treating us like kids and only giving us what XDA wants. If they were really for the user that thread would have been made as soon as something development related could have been posted
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Thanks. Although I don't agree with you completely, it's good to know you didn't go rogue on me all of a sudden. If xda wants ad revenue, they would be creating ads for every device out. Although I don't understand why they won't readily create a forum for a device that clearly needs it. I don't agree with their logic. If there's even one dev for a device, a forum should be made. That's like saying "we'll only host the most popular of devices." By that token, popularity should not ensue. And under that jurisdiction, technically the Doubleshot shouldn't exist here either. Our community is quite small, even for a dev community. Most of the daily page hits xda gets from us are the same couple dozen people, some of which login multiple times per day (because they have no life, myself included )
But popularity of the site is still necessary. not that many people know about sdx. When they look for a new phone to buy (devs and modders alike) most will come to xda and poke around to see if the activity is up to their liking. If not, they'll probably search for a new device. Main reason why I haven't switched over to a Captivate Glide or a Droid 4...
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I must be weird then as I bought my device because
1. It was the closest thing to a G3 on the market and
2. I was (and still am) angry with and done with HTC after the lack of ICS on the doubleshot.
Oh and 3. My DS died;(
Nonetheless if we decide to move to that other site I'll have to get an android app for it lol.
I'm growing disgruntled with XDA lately but its kinda like a drug for me... and strapped... this device stock is just about equivalent to my ds when it died with regards to ease of use and overall response. I DO miss a trackpad and the home button lags just a bit... but that could be me having an aftermarket launcher with touchwiz frozen but not uninstalled.
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