Hey there everyone.
I'm from the Vibrant section, and I have some questions for you Galaxy S 4G users, please do know I searched around, but I thought it'd be best to have all the information anyone had on this particular topic all in one thread, so if anyone feels this is useless, feel free to delete it, I'm just trying to gain some knowledge. My girlfriend has a GS4G, and although the devs have done a great job modding Samsung's ROMs.. they don't compare to AOSP ROMs in my opinion.
Now, for the questions.
1. Why is it we can't get a working kernel to boot for the GS4G? (Someone please do explain in detail.)
2. How far has someone gone/gotten? (I know krylon handed the work to someone, but I don't think they've reported back?)
And please, no stupid answers. This is pure discussion. If a kernel dev is what we need, I could try to find one that's willing to work with me, but we'd need testers and such.
From what I heard and read around, you guys don't have any devs thats capable of doing that.
Surfacet said:
From what I heard and read around, you guys don't have any devs thats capable of doing that.
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Lol
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Surfacet said:
From what I heard and read around, you guys don't have any devs thats capable of doing that.
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Capable of doing what, exactly?
Surfacet said:
From what I heard and read around, you guys don't have any devs thats capable of doing that.
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sgs2 fourm that way bra <<<
He said sgs4G
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theexel said:
Hey there everyone.
I'm from the Vibrant section, and I have some questions for you Galaxy S 4G users, please do know I searched around, but I thought it'd be best to have all the information anyone had on this particular topic all in one thread, so if anyone feels this is useless, feel free to delete it, I'm just trying to gain some knowledge. My girlfriend has a GS4G, and although the devs have done a great job modding Samsung's ROMs.. they don't compare to AOSP ROMs in my opinion.
Now, for the questions.
1. Why is it we can't get a working kernel to boot for the GS4G? (Someone please do explain in detail.)
2. How far has someone gone/gotten? (I know krylon handed the work to someone, but I don't think they've reported back?)
And please, no stupid answers. This is pure discussion. If a kernel dev is what we need, I could try to find one that's willing to work with me, but we'd need testers and such.
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We are already working on this now. Read through my kernel thread. I have specific milestones to getting cm7 on our phone. I will not skip steps to get to cm7 sooner, compromising stability and functionality. If you want to help, please pm me.
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bhundven said:
We are already working on this now. Read through my kernel thread. I have specific milestones to getting cm7 on our phone. I will not skip steps to get to cm7 sooner, compromising stability and functionality. If you want to help, please pm me.
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Yep, just checked your replies on Rootz Wiki, sorry, I didn't notice that earlier.
But like I said, this thread isn't meant to rush anyone or say someone can't do something, simply for discussion and information. Thanks for taking the time to reply.
For real this thread again!? I'm going to kill myself. Can't bear it.
Wait... better idea! Lets flame the OP!
Surfacet said:
From what I heard and read around, you guys don't have any devs thats capable of doing that.
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haha bh will make you eat your words
chris31jct said:
For real this thread again!? I'm going to kill myself. Can't bear it.
Wait... better idea! Lets flame the OP!
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Alright, flame me.. because I'm definitely doing something wrong. I'm in no way demanding an ETA or even demanding anyone to start working on this, I simply wanted to group the information anyone knows so we could help each other.. you know.. kind of what a community does?
Guys, being cynical and trolling won't get us anywhere, and tell you the truth, it's childish and starting to bore.
The guy said he wanted a technical status summary and specifically said he wants to help.
In this case, i think we do need to maintain a thread of work chords and specify the barriers.
I thank every new dev with a will to help.
I think he deserves a different attitude than a noob, especially if we don't want to scare all devs from here.
That's my opinion anyway.
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Surfacet said:
From what I heard and read around, you guys don't have any devs thats capable of doing that.
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hahah XXDDD
Sorry I didn't respond sooner. I had life happen
I see the usual knee scuffs and bruises hit this thread too. I really wish people wouldn't post if doesn't help move the thread forward.
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Anyways... back on topic... :clears throat:
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Yep, just checked your replies on Rootz Wiki, sorry, I didn't notice that earlier.
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It's ok. I've responded to a few of these threads. It's surprising how many people don't click 'search' and search for 'cm7' or 'cyanogenmod'. I also don't expect people to read both rootz and xda. So if you read my op on the kernel thread, I have a "Plans" section (on both forums!).
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But like I said, this thread isn't meant to rush anyone or say someone can't do something, simply for discussion and information. Thanks for taking the time to reply.
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If you want to help, pm me.
Starting threads like these without searching only causes trolling and thread thrash (a lot of useless threads in the forum that blur the current state).
When you read what I'm saying, imagine a skinny geek with a deep helpful-relaxed voice... and a smile
A lot of people take me the wrong way. I'm a geek. I read and write code. I don't like wasting my time making you feel all warm and fuzzy.
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Guys, being cynical and trolling won't get us anywhere, and tell you the truth, it's childish and starting to bore.
The guy said he wanted a technical status summary and specifically said he wants to help.
In this case, i think we do need to maintain a thread of work chords and specify the barriers.
I thank every new dev with a will to help.
I think he deserves a different attitude than a noob, especially if we don't want to scare all devs from here.
That's my opinion anyway.
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This.
10 Char.
Lets keep this thread going I am also wondering how come there is so little development here but what developers we have are dedicated!
We have great developers that work hard on cm. The sgs 4g is the problem of not having it, freaking sammy with their experiments. i really enjoy their masterpieces(devs). Op you just have to have some patience, cm will come to us i believe in our devs.
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I simply wanted to group the information anyone knows so we could help each other.. you know.. kind of what a community does?
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Then why didn't you group all the information that is already available in the 50 other threads about CM7 into this one?
if you really wanted to do that, you could have made your OP a summary with bullet points of the details of everything that was already discussed, and then updated it with new information that comes along.
did you even search at all??
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Then why didn't you group all the information that is already available in the 50 other threads about CM7 into this one?
if you really wanted to do that, you could have made your OP a summary with bullet points of the details of everything that was already discussed, and then updated it with new information that comes along.
did you even search at all??
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Before flaming and insulting did you notice the date on the first post?
Personally I think the person that cast the raise dead spell should be getting beat with the flame bat.
I swear sometimes people are too eager to flame somebody. Its like they had a bad day come to xda to post behind a anonymous screen name and then walk away feeling better. But that is just me, Im sure my observation is wrong.
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Then why didn't you group all the information that is already available in the 50 other threads about CM7 into this one?
if you really wanted to do that, you could have made your OP a summary with bullet points of the details of everything that was already discussed, and then updated it with new information that comes along.
did you even search at all??
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First of all, this has never been my primary device. I have never owned this device. I used to own the Samsung Vibrant, now I own a Nexus S. My girlfriend owned a Galaxy S 4G, and was using her phone to try to bring something new to you guys. (First ICS theme for this device ring a bell?) It's not my job to group 50 other threads about CM7 into this one. That's not what a community is. I am in no way a recognized developer, I know my stuff, but I have a long way to go. But it's people like you that make devs want to leave and stop posting their stuff. You swear people have time to do everything. And indeed that was my intention, but I wasn't going to pull useless information from other threads that members have posted, that are often inaccurate. This thread was mostly meant for devs, that could actually help out, and working together.
In other news, I finally have some time to mess around with stuff, might look into more themes or something, but I lack a device to work on, so I guess if some people would like to help (testing, etc.) I'd be glad to push things out from time to time.
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i ordered captivate knowing there will be nice people to support in this forum but there is none. i posted thread 2 times and both times its deleted without even informing me. i offer people free ps3 games and bluetooth headset still nobody wants to help here with lag fix and downloading rom? worst experience ever.
Sorry..... What?? No help = not asking the right question. You have over 400 posts and have gotten no help?!? weird......
Why would you offer free stuff for help? That just makes you seem like a spammer.
Quit being an idiot, and help yourself.
Captivate, XDA Premium, Cyanogenmod
Wow. This place is self service. Have you tried doing any searches or are you just waiting for someone to help you? Threads rarely get deleted. I'm guessing from your original post that you aren't very good at communicating.
im new here on captivate. do u guys really think i would understand all that rom stuff and kies and stuff i dont even know what they are. i dont even know how to root
If you need help with Captivate related stuff, I can help you out. Shoot me a PM.
At the others, if you don't have anything constructive to say, then better to keep quiet and report the thread.
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Wow. This place is self service. Have you tried doing any searches or are you just waiting for someone to help you? Threads rarely get deleted. I'm guessing from your original post that you aren't very good at communicating.
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Great words Miami_Son...Lol, it sounds like he's waiting for a personal invite to information that is abundantly available in this forum. 2 months ago I had no idea how to do anything with my Cappy beside make a phone call and now I'm changing ROM's and themes more often than I change my drawers.
Bit of advice there the_ahmadzais, get a clue and quit waiting for someone to ask you if you need help. Read, read, read, read, all the information you need is all here with the click of you mouse. :/
Who wants to bet this will get closed soon
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Christo_69 said:
Great words Miami_Son...Lol, it sounds like he's waiting for a personal invite to information that is abundantly available in this forum. 2 months ago I had no idea how to do anything with my Cappy beside make a phone call and now I'm changing ROM's and themes more often than I change my drawers.
Bit of advice there the_ahmadzais, get a clue and quit waiting for someone to ask you if you need help. Read, read, read, read, all the information you need is all here with the click of you mouse. :/
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+10000000000
Captivate is my first android phone. Reading is all I needed to do to get into flashing and custom roms. Rooting can't be any easier with programs like Super One click and the like.
mcord11758 said:
Who wants to bet this will get closed soon
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No bet but IBTL.
mcord11758 said:
Who wants to bet this will get closed soon
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I'm closing it because of all this nonsense talk. I'll repeat what I said above, if you want to be stupid and ridicule the OP rather then lending a hand, then you're better off not posting.
@ the_ahmadzais, probably better off posting in the Q&A.
Why can't MIUI Roms be posted posted in here?
I think its because MIUI doesnt want it posted any where but the MIUI site. had the same problem at the G2x threads.. but someone managed to get a thread and link up and keep it up, some how..lol
They can be posted, just not the one from Trip as he's banned from here
Yes, as the poster above me has stated, this ROM is not allowed on XDA, I have to close the threads referring to MIUI, he has expressly asked that it not be posted on XDA.
I am not allowed to let it on unless he has given permission, if memberskeeep posting this it is violating our rules meaning that I have to give out a lot of infractions. If he gives permission, I will happily re-open these thread if this is OK with the Admins.
If anyone has any questions, send me a PM or let me know in here
Thanks Guys
BW
I'm running it now!!!!!! Been looking for a good Sensless rom and MIUI has just fitted the bill nicely
Badwolve1 said:
Yes, as the poster above me has stated, this ROM is not allowed on XDA, I have to close the threads referring to MIUI, he has expressly asked that it not be posted on XDA.
I am not allowed to let it on unless he has given permission, if memberskeeep posting this it is violating our rules meaning that I have to give out a lot of infractions. If he gives permission, I will happily re-open these thread if this is OK with the Admins.
If anyone has any questions, send me a PM or let me know in here
Thanks Guys
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This only applies to the port by Trip though right, any other MIUI port is allowed? There are a couple of ports for the Desire S:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1194397
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This only applies to the port by Trip though right, any other MIUI port is allowed? There are a couple of ports for the Desire S:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1194397
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Yes, Trip has asked us specifically not to allow his ROM on here, other MIUI roms that are not by him are fine, and his is also fine if he says that it is allowed on here
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Wait.. So if I want to download MIUI for my phone, where do I find it? The MIUI site doesn't list Sensation in the devices list, and the links here have been removed..
Google it - it's not hard if you know the site Paul O'Brien runs...
And MIUI have said they are probably going to do an official version for the Sensation soon
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Google it - it's not hard if you know the site Paul O'Brien runs...
And MIUI have said they are probably going to do an official version for the Sensation soon
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I wait for this. I try some of ver but have some serious bug on my sensation!
He's kicked out some real kick ass ROMs in a short period of time. MIUI is running VERY well. Totally worth it.
Something tells me that Trip has no problems with his ROM being posted on XDA (with all credits to him, of course), but that's only me, I won't talk instead of him. Too bad because his ROM is faster than any other around here, even it is still beta. Come on people, let's make a deal here and enjoy our Sensations
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Something tells me that Trip has no problems with his ROM being posted on XDA (with all credits to him, of course), but that's only me, I won't talk instead of him. Too bad because his ROM is faster than any other around here, even it is still beta. Come on people, let's make a deal here and enjoy our Sensations
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AFAIK Trip had no problems with the thread here at XDA and just didn't want mirrors posted, seeing as the thread was just a link to his original thread and seeing as he okay'd it, I don't know why the thread was closed down anyway.
Can you give me the link for the miui rom by Paul O'Brien please?
Thanks
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BonesRed said:
AFAIK Trip had no problems with the thread here at XDA and just didn't want mirrors posted, seeing as the thread was just a link to his original thread and seeing as he okay'd it, I don't know why the thread was closed down anyway.
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I'm pretty sure he does mind. Quote from his current thread on Modaco:
Dont misunderstand me, i dont have a problem with sharing it, i do have a problem with sharing it to a place that kills everything that have something to do with me. That is not how a community should be. Even users who support me there get bashed, they are going to wrong way there.. They always had a great community where you could learn alot and everyone was excepted in there own ways.
There where alot of users helping each other, now the mods control the place on there personal likings. And people just take whatever they need to get more attention then another.
I want to help as much as i can, but giving everything for free to a community that fights against me.. no sorry thats a no go.
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Source: http://android.modaco.com/topic/346...199-released/page__view__findpost__p__1802749
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I'm pretty sure he does mind. Quote from his current thread on Modaco:
Source: http://android.modaco.com/topic/346...199-released/page__view__findpost__p__1802749
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This isn't going to go anywhere so I will basically just chime in since this has greatly affected me personally. Trip basically is unhappy how users such as myself get trashed for even mentioning his ROM, on XDA. I basically was trying to help a user yesterday, and I mentioned I was using Trips ROM, but was going to offer my help with an installation of an app he had an issue with. I posted a link to that app, and instead of the moderators here seeing I was NOT posting any links to the ROM, but rather to an app, I was trashed by several users saying that I should know better, and then was forced to delete references. I never posted any direct link to Modaco nor his ROM. The link was to an app, I simply googled. Suffice it to say, after posting more than 3100 threads here and helping out literally with 100's of users over the last two years with my Nexus one and now Sensation, I probably at least in the near term will basically help over at Modaco and move on for a while from here. The attitudes of many here totally sour the situation. Especially on a phone that has lack support for so long and has finally gotten to the point of enjoyment with development, past the same old same old copies of Sense Roms we see here from day one. All the developers here brag they have the fastest, slickest, ad nauseum same old Sense ROMs that for the most part are just clones of each other. Sure, I might be offending a lot of the hard working OPs here and I will say I'm sorry I had to make such a statement, since I know a lot of hard work goes into any of this. But now we finally are seeing CM7, and MIUI opening up on the Sensations doorstep and because of the piss and moaning going on here with Trip over issues from the past, we end up with being either near banned, threatened with points actions, told we must delete references that have zero to do with his ROM, but they are afraid that some will just "think" that there are links. The hysteria after yesterday really left a sour taste in my mouth and many other fellow long time XDAers I speak with all the time, that have all basically PMed me stating they could NOT believe how I basically was trashed on a thread here.
Anyways, just wanted to speak my peace. This is NOT on a development thread so hopefully I won't have threats coming at me for speaking my peace. The actions here only hurt a community as a whole.
http://android.modaco.com/topic/346...a-sensational-s002b199-released/page__st__260
You can read there " the thread by t0ny0 in the xda development area is the useful one" ... Does anyone need more proof that he in fact didnt mind the idea of his rom being here?
And even with that - thread was closed. Not cool.
We have the proof that he approves, and still closed...
Sent from my Sensation 4G, that is finally running CM7, using Tapatalk.
Closing the threads just cuz he got banned. Wow. His rom is by far way better than others. MIUI all day everyday!! signature!!!
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If he gives permission, I will happily re-open these thread if this is OK with the Admins.
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and his is also fine if he says that it is allowed on here
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Pretty sure THIS negates any reason for deleting t0ny0's thread in the first place.
edit* side note, miui goes against the entire spirit of cm by kanging cm source then redistributing it closed. i think it should be banned completely.
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Pretty sure THIS negates any reason for deleting t0ny0's thread in the first place.
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Thaaaank you...
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ok, so ive noticed both the One-Click and Subtly Modified Kernel threads are locked and i didnt see him say anything about having them locked or going on hiatus. does anyone know if everythings alright? did he quit devving? move to Rootz? someone has to know something...
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Juls317 said:
ok, so ive noticed both the One-Click and Subtly Modified Kernel threads are locked and i didnt see him say anything about having them locked or going on hiatus. does anyone know if everythings alright? did he quit devving? move to Rootz? someone has to know something...
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He got tired of the BS that goes on around here. He said that he was tired of answering question that could be answering by people just doing a little research, and was also tired of people not following the "rules." I completely understand his frustration. He wrote a huge post about it which I think can be found in the gerneral section titled "thinking of leaving XDA" or something like that. He even said he was thinking of disappearing and keeping his work to himself. I do not know if he has stopped deving or just went somewhere else. But god I hope he hasn't stopped deving for us.
Damn noobs making all the mistakes, yet we get the consequences aswell.
Sent from my Rockin' Galaxy S 4G!
He's still deving. Mods locked his threads and that was the last straw. You'll be able to find him on rootz though.
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Glad to know, thanks! Let's see if i could remember my rootz account, it's been too long!
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Why'd the mods lock his threads? And I knew he had talked about moving to Rootz if people wouldn't follow the rules, etc. I just never saw a "See ya, I'm out" type of post
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Look at his signature.
Sent from my SGS 4G.
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Look at his signature.
Sent from my SGS 4G.
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what signature? looks to me like it was removed.
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Ah, he must've removed it. It said something to the effect of, "I'm leaving. Figure it out on your own."
His signature did change.
Regardless, you can follow his work on github:
https://github.com/bhundven
It answers the question of what is he doing- working on a CM build/kernel.
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I just never saw a "See ya, I'm out" type of post
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...See ya, I'm out... kinda. Still working on this phone, I just don't care to partake in the xda shenanigans anymore. Yup, sourceforge and github are where I do stuff.
See: http://bhundven.users.sourceforge.net for more... it should also point you to teamacid, teamnerd, and my personal stuff.
A few senior moderators have pm'd me, and I reexplained my opinion on xda, which they seem to agree with.
This site is called: xda-developers
I think this site needs to go back to being a place for "DEVELOPERS", like it once was.
The "Thinking of leaving..." post was deleted (afaik) because the users started to act unrully in it. Go figure. Good job guys.
But what I stated in that thread, and I will restate here. I'm not done developing, but I don't have a lot of time to work on this stuff. I'm close to getting cm7 to boot, but I will guess that after it works, and there will be lots of fixes before it is stable for users to use. So even if I get cm7 booting I won't release it right away. I do not want to push out a rom that doesn't work right. (well, good enough for me).
do what you gotta man. you have my full support. just wish people were as patient as i am. keep up the awesome work. also, if you need any help with anything, just let me know. i'm willing to test things out and also willing to help out with any graphical ideas. you know how to reach me.
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I'm close to getting cm7 to boot,
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I love you.
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he got tired of what im getitng tired of... The same useless posts the same stupid questions.... No one reads no one stays on topic in the dev fourm. The im new and dont know **** is old hat people just want spoon fed info dont wanna actually read...
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he got tired of what im getitng tired of... The same useless posts the same stupid questions.... No one reads no one stays on topic in the dev fourm. The im new and dont know **** is old hat people just want spoon fed info dont wanna actually read...
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You should lay some rootz down somewhere else. That would be better for those of us who know how to read and actually appreciate what you all do for us and are not impatient and rude.
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I love you.
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lolz... the important part of what you quoted was after what you quoted...
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...but I will guess that after it works, and there will be lots of fixes before it is stable for users to use. So even if I get cm7 booting I won't release it right away. I do not want to push out a rom that doesn't work right. (well, good enough for me).
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Bryan,
Nice to see you back even for a short time. Thanks for all that you've done and are continuing to do. I can understand the frustration with this site especially if your actual trying to Dev. Best of luck and thanks for this kernel.
bswann said:
You should lay some rootz down somewhere else. That would be better for those of us who know how to read and actually appreciate what you all do for us and are not impatient and rude.
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I actually had some free time and i decided to read alot of the threads last night and i can see why you all get so frustrated with people asking "when will you be done??" "how does this work??" I had to read for about three days on just how to even root.. let alone flash my first rom.. but we all wont learn everything if we dont take the time to read it fully ( I love the whole trial and error of it.) Im by all means am not tech savvy but this site has all the answers to ALL the questions to ALL the beautiful roms on this site.. kernel's, roms, baseband, builds, and even mods.. all work in conjunction with eachother.. for me its like putting my own perfect puzzle together to my liking.. Brian has helped me out alot.. Ive only been a member on this site for a short period of time and it pains me that you all feel this way.. Im not a dev.. Im a nurse.. I do know from my career it can be frustrating from people asking the same questions over and over and over.. Ive asked alot of questions and you all have been so helpful to me.. Im just sorry you all feel this way.. I remember signing up a few months ago i watched the video and i got it.. there are alot of different personalities on this site some good some bad.. its just sad that a few "idiots" have got to screw it up for the rest of us that are willing to learn... Ive learned alot in my two months of being here and i just wanted to take the time and say thanks to all of you.. I love this site im on it all the time.. for me personally its a great site my Favorite period.. its just sad that all this ignorance would cause a great person to leave.. thanks Brian for all you have helped me with.. blessings to you and your family man..
Thanks bryan we will never forget you as u have done a big change to our phone... may the good Lord bless and keep you,, will always be at your side..
I am also thinking of migrating to rootz. I already have an account.
So I am reposting my rom over there. See me if you wish. I will respond to pm, and I will post rom updats and "Link Up" etc....
Do you think we will ever have ICS on the galaxy s 4g? I mean we saw it on G1, and lots of unsupported phones, and on the galaxy s 1 which doesn't support ICS officially. What is the problem stopping the development ?
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Do you think we will ever have ICS on the galaxy s 4g? I mean we saw it on G1, and lots of unsupported phones, and on the galaxy s 1 which doesn't support ICS officially. What is the problem stopping the development ?
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Threads like this.
Also, the other phones have like a billion and one kernel devs. Not to mention our phone is Sammy's black sheep, by that I mean this phone is way different from other sgs.
Lastly, we have at least 3 other ICS threads why not ask there?
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ismailham said:
Do you think we will ever have ICS on the galaxy s 4g? I mean we saw it on G1, and lots of unsupported phones, and on the galaxy s 1 which doesn't support ICS officially. What is the problem stopping the development ?
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You haven't downloaded the source code and tried to help us port it. We need your help.
I'm trying really hard to remain "civil".....really I am
FBis251 said:
You haven't downloaded the source code and tried to help us port it. We need your help.
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I like that answer lol
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Why does everybody get annoyed when a regular person just wants to know whats wrong out of curiosity? I don't want any ROM or anything I just wanted a technical answer. is the problem the source code being unreleased? will the company ever release it?
I wish I could help, I would really love to. Its like a dream or long term goal to be a dev, study programming languages etc... but that requires lots of time and I'm just waiting a bit as i'm not sure where to start.
I am sorry for any misunderstanding as I know Devs already have rough days and nights with developing and improving. I wasn't "Demanding" or "pushing" as i'm not that person. I am just seeking knowledge, and if the Q&A section isn't the right place to search for Knowledge then I don't know where is.
The problem isn't with you so much as it is with the million dollar question that's been asked and answered a million times....its the question all devs cringe over when they see it repeated time n time again.
Put yourself in their shoes for a minute.....they put out as much as they can with what they can and people keep popping up this same question like they just aren't happy with what they are getting
To answer your question, and anybody else that wants to ask,
It is being worked on. We cannot get ICS to boot due to coding and kernel issues. I semi successfully ported an ICS ROM, but due to all the mods and changes, it felt empty. So we went back to the drawing board and started over. Since we don't have source code, it makes things much more difficult. Be patient. And for the record, the first place to search for knowledge is Google. Fb is right though. We do need more help. The more people we have working on this, the better our chances are. Learn how to compile kernel and ROM from source. Learn scripting. And learn how to Google...
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The problem isn't with you so much as it is with the million dollar question that's been asked and answered a million times....its the question all devs cringe over when they see it repeated time n time again.
Put yourself in their shoes for a minute.....they put out as much as they can with what they can and people keep popping up this same question like they just aren't happy with what they are getting
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I do understand what you mean, and I already put myself in the dev's shoes and I really admire their work, all of it. But I went through all the threads regarding ICS, and sadly their aim is to push , demand and request stuff from devs as if devs don't have enough on their minds already, and that is really annoying and disrespectful. But not all people are like that. I don't have any requests( I have a Nexus S with ICS, SGS 4g CM7.2) I am just seeking knowledge.
I am really grateful for what each and every DEV offers as it is from their personal and free time. Sorry for any misunderstanding
thomas.raines said:
To answer your question, and anybody else that wants to ask,
It is being worked on. We cannot get ICS to boot due to coding and kernel issues. I semi successfully ported an ICS ROM, but due to all the mods and changes, it felt empty. So we went back to the drawing board and started over. Since we don't have source code, it makes things much more difficult. Be patient. And for the record, the first place to search for knowledge is Google. Fb is right though. We do need more help. The more people we have working on this, the better our chances are. Learn how to compile kernel and ROM from source. Learn scripting. And learn how to Google...
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I really thank you for your answer sir. You have helped me a lot, I hope I can lend a hand in any way possible. I will read about kernel/rom compiling. I googled many stuff about a month ago but its so vast and big I sort of got lost and stopped.
Thank you...
Sorry for double posting...
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erikmm said:
Also, the other phones have like a billion and one kernel devs. Not to mention our phone is Sammy's black sheep, by that I mean this phone is way different from other sgs.
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What Thomas posted is true but the main reason we dont have a working ICS port is this statement above.
The op makes a good point, this is the Q&A section. Even tho there are many threads asking this same question most of them have ended up in bashing with nerf bats or a mod locking because of insults. Ive read the other threads, but most people will stop reading when the conversation turns sour. You might actually read the other posts but your mind shuts it down. So a informative post will slip in and you wont catch it.
The biggest problem with threads that ask this question is assumptions. When people stop assuming and start to understand the person asking the question things get resolved.
thomas.raines said:
To answer your question, and anybody else that wants to ask,
It is being worked on. We cannot get ICS to boot due to coding and kernel issues. I semi successfully ported an ICS ROM, but due to all the mods and changes, it felt empty. So we went back to the drawing board and started over. Since we don't have source code, it makes things much more difficult. Be patient. And for the record, the first place to search for knowledge is Google. Fb is right though. We do need more help. The more people we have working on this, the better our chances are. Learn how to compile kernel and ROM from source. Learn scripting. And learn how to Google...
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I'd like to help, how would I go about doing that?
brandonc0526 said:
I'd like to help, how would I go about doing that?
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jump on irc and go to the teamacid channel this evening...
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thomas.raines said:
jump on irc and go to the teamacid channel this evening...
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Joined too late man. Tried to take a break at work but I couldnt
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brandonc0526 said:
Joined too late man. Tried to take a break at work but I couldnt
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Send me a PM when you guys get on
I just wanted to say that everyone has been so nice and helpful on this forum. I came from the atrix 4g forum and wow can people get *****y and snap at every little thing. God forbid you're a noob over there, cuz if so you ask a question and get attacked! So I just want to say its nice to see not everyone is so grouchy on these public forums.
haha you'll have a fair share here as well, you will have people bashing on other people for not using the search button to find their answer but you know somewhere in time they also did the same :silly:
as long as you give a positive attitude and give constructive replies then you should be good.. not much of a fan of those people who just bash other people and not even answer the question lol
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haha you'll have a fair share here as well, you will have people bashing on other people for not using the search button to find their answer but you know somewhere in time they also did the same :silly:
as long as you give a positive attitude and give constructive replies then you should be good.. not much of a fan of those people who just bash other people and not even answer the question lol
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Oh yes I know. that is pretty much what most people do over there. Bash bash bash, then report the thread. Just makes you not feel welcome if its your first time there. I try to help if I know the answer, if not, I move on even if its annoying. Being a noob once myself, if I had gotten that kind of welcome I would have said forget it. But here, I jumped right in and have gotten nothing but nice answers from people. 2 weeks with the rocket now and i feel welcome.
Skyrocket is a good phone and the developers here are great. If you haven't tried the CM10 builds you should, it's a really nice rom.
There are plenty of bashers here, but I tend to just ignore them, and you will soon figure out who the valuable contributors are...
Do not forget to mention a whole lot stable and very solid ics based roms. And yes this particular forum can get aggrivating at times. I'm pleading the fifth for a here and there moment.
Welcome to the skyrocket.
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cschmitt said:
Skyrocket is a good phone and the developers here are great. If you haven't tried the CM10 builds you should, it's a really nice rom.
There are plenty of bashers here, but I tend to just ignore them, and you will soon figure out who the valuable contributors are...
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occupational_hazard said:
Do not forget to mention a whole lot stable and very solid ics based roms. And yes this particular forum can get aggrivating at times. I'm pleading the fifth for a here and there moment.
Welcome to the skyrocket.
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Thanks to both of you. I really like this phone. I love and still have my atrix, but I wanted some support and once you buy moto, seems they just don't care anymore. I have already tried 2 cm10 ROMs, liquid and orthus. I really liked liquid, but the freezing and reboots plagued me so gave orthus a shot. No problems at all. I've asked questions of both developers and got quick nice responses. Such a welcome change from being told to figure it out myself from members at atrix forum.
I recommend slim or aokp xperiance for the job action. Both seemed to have less sods and RRs.
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As someone who occasionally falls into the "basher" category here, I can honestly say that it's not without reason. If you come in and post a series of questions that show that you didn't read a thing before flashing, I'll tell you straight up that you're going to brick if you don't stop. I don't hold the hands of people who can't be troubled to figure out which JB ROM is most stable the same way the rest of us did--by reading and flashing. Going into ROM threads and baselessly slamming the dev will also get me riled up quickly, because I have yet to see a dev community as thorough and thoughtful as the one the Skyrocket has.
Even still, I'd like to hope I've mellowed out lately, if for no other reason than I've just accepted that those who don't want to read won't read a thing until they have a brick. Hence my new signature line. And for what it's worth, this is one of the more positive XDA communities I've read through. I've seen members on one board intentionally try to hard-brick others who repeatedly ask dumb questions!
T.J. Bender said:
As someone who occasionally falls into the "basher" category here, I can honestly say that it's not without reason. If you come in and post a series of questions that show that you didn't read a thing before flashing, I'll tell you straight up that you're going to brick if you don't stop. I don't hold the hands of people who can't be troubled to figure out which JB ROM is most stable the same way the rest of us did--by reading and flashing. Going into ROM threads and baselessly slamming the dev will also get me riled up quickly, because I have yet to see a dev community as thorough and thoughtful as the one the Skyrocket has.
Even still, I'd like to hope I've mellowed out lately, if for no other reason that I've just accepted that those who don't want to read won't read a thing until they have a brick. Hence my new signature line. And for what it's worth, this is one of the more positive XDA communities I've read through. I've seen members on one board intentionally try to hard-brick others who repeatedly ask dumb questions!
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I'm with this guy:good:
I love that you feel that way.
I think we just have much stricter moderators than many of the other forums. I've read through quite a few of the other phone forums and it seems like people get away with A LOT more than we could.
That being said- even MY version of trolling will get you reported here (very low key.. Just nicely point people in the right direction... But people like to get angry when you tell them they are wrong). So I don't even do that.
Glad I could contribute to your overall good feelings here, though. I work really hard at being nice
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I love that you feel that way.
I think we just have much stricter moderators than many of the other forums. I've read through quite a few of the other phone forums and it seems like people get away with A LOT more than we could.
That being said- even MY version of trolling will get you reported here (very low key.. Just nicely point people in the right direction... But people like to get angry when you tell them they are wrong). So I don't even do that.
Glad I could contribute to your overall good feelings here, though. I work really hard at being nice
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LIES!!! All lies. Lol.
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