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worst mistake to get captivate :( no help here

i ordered captivate knowing there will be nice people to support in this forum but there is none. i posted thread 2 times and both times its deleted without even informing me. i offer people free ps3 games and bluetooth headset still nobody wants to help here with lag fix and downloading rom? worst experience ever.

Sorry..... What?? No help = not asking the right question. You have over 400 posts and have gotten no help?!? weird......
Why would you offer free stuff for help? That just makes you seem like a spammer.

Quit being an idiot, and help yourself.
Captivate, XDA Premium, Cyanogenmod

Wow. This place is self service. Have you tried doing any searches or are you just waiting for someone to help you? Threads rarely get deleted. I'm guessing from your original post that you aren't very good at communicating.

im new here on captivate. do u guys really think i would understand all that rom stuff and kies and stuff i dont even know what they are. i dont even know how to root

If you need help with Captivate related stuff, I can help you out. Shoot me a PM.
At the others, if you don't have anything constructive to say, then better to keep quiet and report the thread.

Miami_Son said:
Wow. This place is self service. Have you tried doing any searches or are you just waiting for someone to help you? Threads rarely get deleted. I'm guessing from your original post that you aren't very good at communicating.
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Great words Miami_Son...Lol, it sounds like he's waiting for a personal invite to information that is abundantly available in this forum. 2 months ago I had no idea how to do anything with my Cappy beside make a phone call and now I'm changing ROM's and themes more often than I change my drawers.
Bit of advice there the_ahmadzais, get a clue and quit waiting for someone to ask you if you need help. Read, read, read, read, all the information you need is all here with the click of you mouse. :/

Who wants to bet this will get closed soon
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Christo_69 said:
Great words Miami_Son...Lol, it sounds like he's waiting for a personal invite to information that is abundantly available in this forum. 2 months ago I had no idea how to do anything with my Cappy beside make a phone call and now I'm changing ROM's and themes more often than I change my drawers.
Bit of advice there the_ahmadzais, get a clue and quit waiting for someone to ask you if you need help. Read, read, read, read, all the information you need is all here with the click of you mouse. :/
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+10000000000
Captivate is my first android phone. Reading is all I needed to do to get into flashing and custom roms. Rooting can't be any easier with programs like Super One click and the like.
mcord11758 said:
Who wants to bet this will get closed soon
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No bet but IBTL.

mcord11758 said:
Who wants to bet this will get closed soon
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I'm closing it because of all this nonsense talk. I'll repeat what I said above, if you want to be stupid and ridicule the OP rather then lending a hand, then you're better off not posting.
@ the_ahmadzais, probably better off posting in the Q&A.

What is up with CM7 deving?

Please, we need to start CM7. It is not hard at all for this phone, even the vibrant and captivate, which came on eclair have it. And the Galaxy s 2 even has it now. Also the year old Galaxy S 19000 has it. We need to do so.

Hasn't this been discussed several times in the past two weeks? I am pretty sure it has been! It is in the works.

If it is so easy to do then why havent i seen your cm7 rom posted here yet?
and next time dont post **** like this there are like 10 of these damn threads on here.
the devs here are hard at work giving people great roms....so all these *****ing and moaning threads need to stop....if it was so f***n easy people then everyone on here would be posting roms

airfluip1 said:
Please, we need to start CM7. It is not hard at all for this phone, even the vibrant and captivate, which came on eclair have it. And the Galaxy s 2 even has it now. Also the year old Galaxy S 19000 has it. We need to do so.
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Airfluip, I hope you're trolling.

Ohhh boy are you gonna get flamed for this.
It's not as easy as you think. Vibrant and the SGS4G are very different in many aspects.
Plus you have to consider the dev ratio from here and the Vibrant Forums. There's only like 3 devs on the SGS4G and only one working on CM7. So it wouldn't be fair to compare it to the Vibrant.

Air its really hard cause its just krylon deving it. 1 person! Other phones have like more than a couple. So one person had to make a whole new kernel new mods modems and tweaks. Just really hard. Plus you need to make sure its encoded for cwm flashablw
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I know you make some good posts here, but you seriously sound like someone that thinks they're entitled to these things.
There's some things to consider about getting CM7. One thing is that krylon360 is building this from scratch. All the developers on this forum have mentioned that the SGS4G is very much different from the Vibrant. Another is the popularity of this device. The I9000 and Vibrant have CM7, because they're older and more people have them. Not much people wanted to make the jump to the SGS4G. Although the SGSII is newer, it had so much more popularity than the SGS4G because of its power.
So, all in all, not as easy as you think.

OK, I didn't mean to offend anyone.
A. Somebody rudely accused me and stated that why I didn't make it myself if it is so easy. Answer, because i don't have time as I am a Freshman in High School
B. I didn't even know that krylon was working on one, and I would happily help him when I have free time.
You have to understand that everyone is feeling anxious to use CM7. It has been a while since GB was launched and our phone has been here since Feb.

airfluip1 said:
OK, I didn't mean to offend anyone.
A. Somebody rudely accused me and stated that why I didn't make it myself if it is so easy. Answer, because i don't have time as I am a Freshman in High School
B. I didn't even know that krylon was working on one, and I would happily help him when I have free time.
You have to understand that everyone is feeling anxious to use CM7. It has been a while since GB was launched and our phone has been here since Feb.
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Yes everyone wants it but not everyone keeps asking where it is and when will it be done. Keep in mind that the sgs4g has about 3 dedicated devs. Dsexton who has his own line of roms Raver who has his own line of roms and I think does not even own the phone and krylon who works in a lot if different projects is building cm7 from scratch and just got the phone. It will come just have patience.
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nope i pay my mom from time to time to test and give u all pics but i dont own the device.. i actually own 0 devices atm lol some days i do get to use the phone if they need to get in cotact with me so .....

come on, guy.. You already knew it was being worked on. You posted almost the exact same question less than 2 weeks ago:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1206406&highlight=CM7
There is no need to make an entirely new thread asking the same question, especially when there are threads about the actual development of CM7 that you could easily be following. You should probably subscribe the the 2-3 CM7 threads on this forum, to keep yourself up to date.

airfluip1 said:
Please, we need to start CM7. It is not hard at all for this phone, even the vibrant and captivate, which came on eclair have it. And the Galaxy s 2 even has it now. Also the year old Galaxy S 19000 has it. We need to do so.
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Your sig says CM7 is one of your projects and now you're saying "we need to start." So what does your signature about CM7 actually mean?

It means gtfo and leave me alone i wanna do a high quality rom but you little bastards keep anoying me. (DOT)
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Means, that I got CM7 frameworks and apps to boot up, but it was useless. LOL, so I gave up and I forgot to take it off of my signature.
What happened to the rules, that no one will verbally abuse people.
You guys need to think before you post. Just because you are a dev, doesn't mean you can yell at others. I am also DEVing for the phone, and you guys don't respect anyone here.

airfluip1 said:
You guys need to think before you post. Just because you are a dev, doesn't mean you can yell at others. I am also DEVing for the phone, and you guys don't respect anyone here.
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You should have used the search feature. To search for a thread you created for CM7. Not a person was being verbally abusive, they were simply stating that there are several threads created on the subject, and one of which was created by you. Put simply, dev or not, if a thread is created on a subject that already exists multiple times, I will point it out. That doesn't mean I don't respect the work you devs do for us.

jdubb1106 said:
If it is so easy to do then why havent i seen your cm7 rom posted here yet?
and next time dont post **** like this there are like 10 of these damn threads on here.
the devs here are hard at work giving people great roms....so all these *****ing and moaning threads need to stop....if it was so f***n easy people then everyone on here would be posting roms
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This is pretty abusive considering that it is very easy to tell who it was directed to.

Point taken, and I do apologize! It is wrong to assume that none of us respect anyone, when there are clearly a majority of us DO respect and appreciate the time and effort you guys put into the phone.
IMO, this thread should just be closed to prevent further flaming.

*Walks into thread and starts knocking stuff over and breaking everything in sight while rambling something about using the search feature and other threads like this exist*

CM7/AOSP/ICS Discussion Thread.

Hey there everyone.
I'm from the Vibrant section, and I have some questions for you Galaxy S 4G users, please do know I searched around, but I thought it'd be best to have all the information anyone had on this particular topic all in one thread, so if anyone feels this is useless, feel free to delete it, I'm just trying to gain some knowledge. My girlfriend has a GS4G, and although the devs have done a great job modding Samsung's ROMs.. they don't compare to AOSP ROMs in my opinion.
Now, for the questions.
1. Why is it we can't get a working kernel to boot for the GS4G? (Someone please do explain in detail.)
2. How far has someone gone/gotten? (I know krylon handed the work to someone, but I don't think they've reported back?)
And please, no stupid answers. This is pure discussion. If a kernel dev is what we need, I could try to find one that's willing to work with me, but we'd need testers and such.

From what I heard and read around, you guys don't have any devs thats capable of doing that.

Surfacet said:
From what I heard and read around, you guys don't have any devs thats capable of doing that.
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Lol
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Surfacet said:
From what I heard and read around, you guys don't have any devs thats capable of doing that.
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Capable of doing what, exactly?

Surfacet said:
From what I heard and read around, you guys don't have any devs thats capable of doing that.
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sgs2 fourm that way bra <<<

He said sgs4G
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theexel said:
Hey there everyone.
I'm from the Vibrant section, and I have some questions for you Galaxy S 4G users, please do know I searched around, but I thought it'd be best to have all the information anyone had on this particular topic all in one thread, so if anyone feels this is useless, feel free to delete it, I'm just trying to gain some knowledge. My girlfriend has a GS4G, and although the devs have done a great job modding Samsung's ROMs.. they don't compare to AOSP ROMs in my opinion.
Now, for the questions.
1. Why is it we can't get a working kernel to boot for the GS4G? (Someone please do explain in detail.)
2. How far has someone gone/gotten? (I know krylon handed the work to someone, but I don't think they've reported back?)
And please, no stupid answers. This is pure discussion. If a kernel dev is what we need, I could try to find one that's willing to work with me, but we'd need testers and such.
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We are already working on this now. Read through my kernel thread. I have specific milestones to getting cm7 on our phone. I will not skip steps to get to cm7 sooner, compromising stability and functionality. If you want to help, please pm me.
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bhundven said:
We are already working on this now. Read through my kernel thread. I have specific milestones to getting cm7 on our phone. I will not skip steps to get to cm7 sooner, compromising stability and functionality. If you want to help, please pm me.
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Yep, just checked your replies on Rootz Wiki, sorry, I didn't notice that earlier.
But like I said, this thread isn't meant to rush anyone or say someone can't do something, simply for discussion and information. Thanks for taking the time to reply.

For real this thread again!? I'm going to kill myself. Can't bear it.
Wait... better idea! Lets flame the OP!

Surfacet said:
From what I heard and read around, you guys don't have any devs thats capable of doing that.
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haha bh will make you eat your words

chris31jct said:
For real this thread again!? I'm going to kill myself. Can't bear it.
Wait... better idea! Lets flame the OP!
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Alright, flame me.. because I'm definitely doing something wrong. I'm in no way demanding an ETA or even demanding anyone to start working on this, I simply wanted to group the information anyone knows so we could help each other.. you know.. kind of what a community does?

Guys, being cynical and trolling won't get us anywhere, and tell you the truth, it's childish and starting to bore.
The guy said he wanted a technical status summary and specifically said he wants to help.
In this case, i think we do need to maintain a thread of work chords and specify the barriers.
I thank every new dev with a will to help.
I think he deserves a different attitude than a noob, especially if we don't want to scare all devs from here.
That's my opinion anyway.
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Surfacet said:
From what I heard and read around, you guys don't have any devs thats capable of doing that.
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hahah XXDDD

Sorry I didn't respond sooner. I had life happen
I see the usual knee scuffs and bruises hit this thread too. I really wish people wouldn't post if doesn't help move the thread forward.
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Anyways... back on topic... :clears throat:
theexel said:
Yep, just checked your replies on Rootz Wiki, sorry, I didn't notice that earlier.
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It's ok. I've responded to a few of these threads. It's surprising how many people don't click 'search' and search for 'cm7' or 'cyanogenmod'. I also don't expect people to read both rootz and xda. So if you read my op on the kernel thread, I have a "Plans" section (on both forums!).
theexel said:
But like I said, this thread isn't meant to rush anyone or say someone can't do something, simply for discussion and information. Thanks for taking the time to reply.
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If you want to help, pm me.
Starting threads like these without searching only causes trolling and thread thrash (a lot of useless threads in the forum that blur the current state).
When you read what I'm saying, imagine a skinny geek with a deep helpful-relaxed voice... and a smile
A lot of people take me the wrong way. I'm a geek. I read and write code. I don't like wasting my time making you feel all warm and fuzzy.

itzik2sh said:
Guys, being cynical and trolling won't get us anywhere, and tell you the truth, it's childish and starting to bore.
The guy said he wanted a technical status summary and specifically said he wants to help.
In this case, i think we do need to maintain a thread of work chords and specify the barriers.
I thank every new dev with a will to help.
I think he deserves a different attitude than a noob, especially if we don't want to scare all devs from here.
That's my opinion anyway.
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This.
10 Char.

Lets keep this thread going I am also wondering how come there is so little development here but what developers we have are dedicated!

We have great developers that work hard on cm. The sgs 4g is the problem of not having it, freaking sammy with their experiments. i really enjoy their masterpieces(devs). Op you just have to have some patience, cm will come to us i believe in our devs.

theexel said:
I simply wanted to group the information anyone knows so we could help each other.. you know.. kind of what a community does?
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Then why didn't you group all the information that is already available in the 50 other threads about CM7 into this one?
if you really wanted to do that, you could have made your OP a summary with bullet points of the details of everything that was already discussed, and then updated it with new information that comes along.
did you even search at all??

mike-y said:
Then why didn't you group all the information that is already available in the 50 other threads about CM7 into this one?
if you really wanted to do that, you could have made your OP a summary with bullet points of the details of everything that was already discussed, and then updated it with new information that comes along.
did you even search at all??
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Before flaming and insulting did you notice the date on the first post?
Personally I think the person that cast the raise dead spell should be getting beat with the flame bat.
I swear sometimes people are too eager to flame somebody. Its like they had a bad day come to xda to post behind a anonymous screen name and then walk away feeling better. But that is just me, Im sure my observation is wrong.

mike-y said:
Then why didn't you group all the information that is already available in the 50 other threads about CM7 into this one?
if you really wanted to do that, you could have made your OP a summary with bullet points of the details of everything that was already discussed, and then updated it with new information that comes along.
did you even search at all??
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First of all, this has never been my primary device. I have never owned this device. I used to own the Samsung Vibrant, now I own a Nexus S. My girlfriend owned a Galaxy S 4G, and was using her phone to try to bring something new to you guys. (First ICS theme for this device ring a bell?) It's not my job to group 50 other threads about CM7 into this one. That's not what a community is. I am in no way a recognized developer, I know my stuff, but I have a long way to go. But it's people like you that make devs want to leave and stop posting their stuff. You swear people have time to do everything. And indeed that was my intention, but I wasn't going to pull useless information from other threads that members have posted, that are often inaccurate. This thread was mostly meant for devs, that could actually help out, and working together.
In other news, I finally have some time to mess around with stuff, might look into more themes or something, but I lack a device to work on, so I guess if some people would like to help (testing, etc.) I'd be glad to push things out from time to time.

what happened to bhundven?

ok, so ive noticed both the One-Click and Subtly Modified Kernel threads are locked and i didnt see him say anything about having them locked or going on hiatus. does anyone know if everythings alright? did he quit devving? move to Rootz? someone has to know something...
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Juls317 said:
ok, so ive noticed both the One-Click and Subtly Modified Kernel threads are locked and i didnt see him say anything about having them locked or going on hiatus. does anyone know if everythings alright? did he quit devving? move to Rootz? someone has to know something...
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He got tired of the BS that goes on around here. He said that he was tired of answering question that could be answering by people just doing a little research, and was also tired of people not following the "rules." I completely understand his frustration. He wrote a huge post about it which I think can be found in the gerneral section titled "thinking of leaving XDA" or something like that. He even said he was thinking of disappearing and keeping his work to himself. I do not know if he has stopped deving or just went somewhere else. But god I hope he hasn't stopped deving for us.

Damn noobs making all the mistakes, yet we get the consequences aswell.
Sent from my Rockin' Galaxy S 4G!

He's still deving. Mods locked his threads and that was the last straw. You'll be able to find him on rootz though.
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Glad to know, thanks! Let's see if i could remember my rootz account, it's been too long!
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Why'd the mods lock his threads? And I knew he had talked about moving to Rootz if people wouldn't follow the rules, etc. I just never saw a "See ya, I'm out" type of post
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Look at his signature.
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adobrakic said:
Look at his signature.
Sent from my SGS 4G.
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what signature? looks to me like it was removed.
sent from within pure darkness

Ah, he must've removed it. It said something to the effect of, "I'm leaving. Figure it out on your own."

His signature did change.
Regardless, you can follow his work on github:
https://github.com/bhundven
It answers the question of what is he doing- working on a CM build/kernel.

Juls317 said:
I just never saw a "See ya, I'm out" type of post
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...See ya, I'm out... kinda. Still working on this phone, I just don't care to partake in the xda shenanigans anymore. Yup, sourceforge and github are where I do stuff.
See: http://bhundven.users.sourceforge.net for more... it should also point you to teamacid, teamnerd, and my personal stuff.
A few senior moderators have pm'd me, and I reexplained my opinion on xda, which they seem to agree with.
This site is called: xda-developers
I think this site needs to go back to being a place for "DEVELOPERS", like it once was.
The "Thinking of leaving..." post was deleted (afaik) because the users started to act unrully in it. Go figure. Good job guys.
But what I stated in that thread, and I will restate here. I'm not done developing, but I don't have a lot of time to work on this stuff. I'm close to getting cm7 to boot, but I will guess that after it works, and there will be lots of fixes before it is stable for users to use. So even if I get cm7 booting I won't release it right away. I do not want to push out a rom that doesn't work right. (well, good enough for me).

do what you gotta man. you have my full support. just wish people were as patient as i am. keep up the awesome work. also, if you need any help with anything, just let me know. i'm willing to test things out and also willing to help out with any graphical ideas. you know how to reach me.
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bhundven said:
I'm close to getting cm7 to boot,
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I love you.
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he got tired of what im getitng tired of... The same useless posts the same stupid questions.... No one reads no one stays on topic in the dev fourm. The im new and dont know **** is old hat people just want spoon fed info dont wanna actually read...

RaverX3X said:
he got tired of what im getitng tired of... The same useless posts the same stupid questions.... No one reads no one stays on topic in the dev fourm. The im new and dont know **** is old hat people just want spoon fed info dont wanna actually read...
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You should lay some rootz down somewhere else. That would be better for those of us who know how to read and actually appreciate what you all do for us and are not impatient and rude.

l0lz0rss said:
I love you.
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lolz... the important part of what you quoted was after what you quoted...
bhundven said:
...but I will guess that after it works, and there will be lots of fixes before it is stable for users to use. So even if I get cm7 booting I won't release it right away. I do not want to push out a rom that doesn't work right. (well, good enough for me).
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Bryan,
Nice to see you back even for a short time. Thanks for all that you've done and are continuing to do. I can understand the frustration with this site especially if your actual trying to Dev. Best of luck and thanks for this kernel.

bswann said:
You should lay some rootz down somewhere else. That would be better for those of us who know how to read and actually appreciate what you all do for us and are not impatient and rude.
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I actually had some free time and i decided to read alot of the threads last night and i can see why you all get so frustrated with people asking "when will you be done??" "how does this work??" I had to read for about three days on just how to even root.. let alone flash my first rom.. but we all wont learn everything if we dont take the time to read it fully ( I love the whole trial and error of it.) Im by all means am not tech savvy but this site has all the answers to ALL the questions to ALL the beautiful roms on this site.. kernel's, roms, baseband, builds, and even mods.. all work in conjunction with eachother.. for me its like putting my own perfect puzzle together to my liking.. Brian has helped me out alot.. Ive only been a member on this site for a short period of time and it pains me that you all feel this way.. Im not a dev.. Im a nurse.. I do know from my career it can be frustrating from people asking the same questions over and over and over.. Ive asked alot of questions and you all have been so helpful to me.. Im just sorry you all feel this way.. I remember signing up a few months ago i watched the video and i got it.. there are alot of different personalities on this site some good some bad.. its just sad that a few "idiots" have got to screw it up for the rest of us that are willing to learn... Ive learned alot in my two months of being here and i just wanted to take the time and say thanks to all of you.. I love this site im on it all the time.. for me personally its a great site my Favorite period.. its just sad that all this ignorance would cause a great person to leave.. thanks Brian for all you have helped me with.. blessings to you and your family man..

Thanks bryan we will never forget you as u have done a big change to our phone... may the good Lord bless and keep you,, will always be at your side..

I am also thinking of migrating to rootz. I already have an account.
So I am reposting my rom over there. See me if you wish. I will respond to pm, and I will post rom updats and "Link Up" etc....

[Q] Difference between Android 4.0.3 and 4.0.4?

Can someone list any comprehensive changes between the two?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history#Ice_Cream_Sandwich_4.0.x

Obviously its easy for anyone to cite Wiki, but I was asking if there was anything they may have left out. Wiki is not always the most.reliable source for accuracy and comprehensive coverage pertaining to detail sometimes.

megagodx said:
Obviously its easy for anyone to cite Wiki, but I was asking if there was anything they may have left out. Wiki is not always the most.reliable source for accuracy and comprehensive coverage pertaining to detail sometimes.
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Then search for yourself, or flash them both and see.
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lazy noob
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Wow you're a jerk
What's wrong with helping a fellow forum member out without making them feel useless. I'm tired of this behavior on xda. So immature.
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awarbrick89 said:
Wow you're a jerk
What's wrong with helping a fellow forum member out without making them feel useless. I'm tired of this behavior on xda. So immature.
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You can't get on xda ask how something is or what's better from us. Because those of us that do flash and venture out find out on our own. This entire post is pointless. Strong with you the newness is.
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awarbrick89 said:
Wow you're a jerk
What's wrong with helping a fellow forum member out without making them feel useless. I'm tired of this behavior on xda. So immature.
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Its a little tough here on xda but its true that you need to try it out yourself and see what the difference is...personally between the 4.0.3 and 4.0.4 leaks we have, I noticed that 4.0.4 seems to be a lot smoother for me and battery drain seems a little better but I'm going to have to wait for a complete power cycle before I can confirm this

mjwhirly said:
personally between the 4.0.3 and 4.0.4 leaks we have, I noticed that 4.0.4 seems to be a lot smoother for me and battery drain seems a little better
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Which ROM are you using?
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awarbrick89 said:
Wow you're a jerk
What's wrong with helping a fellow forum member out without making them feel useless. I'm tired of this behavior on xda. So immature.
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At least someone answered his noob post...I put one up and no one chimes in...hehehehe
I'm not really offended, but entertained that others get offended so easily.

bbackowski said:
At least someone answered his noob post...I put one up and no one chimes in...hehehehe
I'm not really offended, but entertained that others get offended so easily.
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Not just in reply to this but the whole thing. I found this post looking for, well an answer the question that was initially asked. And very quickly pressed the back button on the browser and regoogled. I think the point is XDA is for a higher calibre level of experience and technical understanding and not for your day to day stuff you could read in a geek magazine, or Android Forums for example. Am I right? Just so I know not to make the mistake myself coz u guys get nasty

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Illnevertell said:
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I know this thread is old, just wanted to point out what huge an Impact that had apparently
And I don't know how I never noticed this at the time, But you guys didn't either.
He never asked which was better, he asked what the major changes were,
Why would you guys suggest someone go through the steps required to install a new android version, instead of just answering their question............ Noobs aren't the problem, the arrogant behavior of the experienced members however..

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awarbrick89 said:
I know this thread is old, just wanted to point out what huge an Impact that had apparently
And I don't know how I never noticed this at the time, But you guys didn't either.
He never asked which was better, he asked what the major changes were,
Why would you guys suggest someone go through the steps required to install a new android version, instead of just answering their question............ Noobs aren't the problem, the arrogant behavior of the experienced members however..
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I disagree, the community itself was built on the backs of do it yourselfers who spent a lot of time and effort to learn and share development, sources, and ideas. The mentality of xda has changed from that of the do it yourselfer spitballing ideas on better code implementation or how to get things working to that of a help desk where it's no longer a community striving to improve and learn they just want things now. Most are content never knowing the effort involved in compiling a ROM or how to modify an apk, hell most can't even use adb to capture logs. The issue here is most certainly complacency amongst newer members. The mentality needs to change in order to see improvement, that's why you see these old timers so grumpy because honestly it's ridiculous the amount of easily searchable questions run through xda.
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I've been thinking maybe a sister site is needed. XDAusers sounds about right. Send all the "I want it now and I won't search" types over that way. Unfortunately, it's not that simple. Some will help with devving, some will cry like a two year old when they get a bootloop. It takes all kinds. One thing I have noticed though. Those that can search and read are almost never heard from. Why? Because they search and read. A catch-22 at its finest.

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Thanks for bringing back a year old + thread to let us know.
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