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Anyone else surpised/impressed/both with Huawei's new phones?

Huawei...I didn't even know how to spell the name a month ago and I thought that Huawei phones were all about being cheap and crappy.And then BANG!MWC happened and Huawei was there with a quad-core phone with specs that match the top offerings by brands well-positioned in the industry,like HTC and LG.And I was like "WTF?".
Does anyone else feel the same?Depending on the price,I might be getting an Ascend D Quad,just to see how it fares(I have some stuff to sell ).Maybe we are looking at a big surprise?Share your opinions!

Here in Memphis they're notorious for cheap phones, but people love them. Otter boxes stay sold out.
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That device really looks nice, but I don't trust them yet to buy it. Well, let's wait to see some reviews and owner's opinion

I think the price will be the most important thing here

voongoto said:
I think the price will be the most important thing here
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100% agreed.They don't have others' brand name yet,but they sure can go with some really aggressive pricing.And imagine a 400€ quad-core phone with HD screen.It's gonna be a killer.
luid666 said:
That device really looks nice, but I don't trust them yet to buy it. Well, let's wait to see some reviews and owner's opinion
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That's what I'm saying here.It could possibly be the best offering around for the foreseeable,but how can we know?I'd expect it from Samsung or HTC,maybe even Sony and LG,but Huawei?They took us all by surprise.
vetvito said:
Here in Memphis they're notorious for cheap phones, but people love them. Otter boxes stay sold out.
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Really?Hmm...I knew about cheap,but I didn't know about popular.But still,we were talking about cheap low-end phones,not high-end.Let's see how they do there...

^ yeah, a carrier named Cricket carries a bunch of models made by them. A couple of my friends have them.
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vetvito said:
^ yeah, a carrier named Cricket carries a bunch of models made by them. A couple of my friends have them.
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And how are they quality wise?They may be cheap,but having a good value-for-money ratio is crucial nowadays.
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$150 for a phone with no contract. Build quality is the same as a old HTC Hero, same specs too. They have 1ghz models as well.
The launcher they use is pretty cool.
They run the same apps as me, so my friends aren't complaining.
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The quad core seems nice, but from why I've seen in there other phones, the software isn't very optimized with the phone and they don't seem to have there own tweaks
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Want to hear more details about the SoC that they built.
The part about it being related in some way to a 64 bit architecture interests me very much. Also wanna know the gpu used, Oh do I hope it's a sgx 544.
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tolis626 said:
100% agreed.They don't have others' brand name yet,but they sure can go with some really aggressive pricing.And imagine a 400€ quad-core phone with HD screen.It's gonna be a killer.
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I do hope Huawei becomes the first guys to start driving the high-end price down. Everyone's pretty much been charging in a similar ballpark as iPhone, and Android can stand to gain much more traction offering comparable competition at $400, for example. I don't really doubt the Windows Phones would follow suit (though who knows about Apple; I can see them trying to continue and being turned into a dinosaur like in that same old story) and in the end, the consumers win.
After all, the truth is we probably have more features than we need anyway atm (though it pains me to say it, what with my rooting for waterproofing and Ubuntu for Android) and maybe it's time for a cost-cutting phase of the development cycle. Reduced increase of features combined with a greater reduction of price.
Course, whether or not this ends up happening is all Huawei's show. They've been getting a lot of publicity as the guy who's starting to make legit high-end phones, and it's all up to them to usher in this kind of paradigm. (The other manufacturers certainly won't.)

thebobp said:
I do hope Huawei becomes the first guys to start driving the high-end price down. Everyone's pretty much been charging in a similar ballpark as iPhone, and Android can stand to gain much more traction offering comparable competition at $400, for example. I don't really doubt the Windows Phones would follow suit (though who knows about Apple; I can see them trying to continue and being turned into a dinosaur like in that same old story) and in the end, the consumers win.
After all, the truth is we probably have more features than we need anyway atm (though it pains me to say it, what with my rooting for waterproofing and Ubuntu for Android) and maybe it's time for a cost-cutting phase of the development cycle. Reduced increase of features combined with a greater reduction of price.
Course, whether or not this ends up happening is all Huawei's show. They've been getting a lot of publicity as the guy who's starting to make legit high-end phones, and it's all up to them to usher in this kind of paradigm. (The other manufacturers certainly won't.)
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Yep,these are my thoughts.Samsung or HTC or any of the others don't see the need to reduce prices.Why would they after all?BUT,if someone put pressure on them,things might change.For the time being,500-600€ are too much for,say,a student.

I am really impressed with the Ascend D Quad. Depending on the price, it can really compete with top Android OEMs. Btw, does Huawei have their own UI on top of the android os?

jeronski said:
I am really impressed with the Ascend D Quad. Depending on the price, it can really compete with top Android OEMs. Btw, does Huawei have their own UI on top of the android os?
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Nope,and that's the beauty of it.
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tolis626 said:
Nope,and that's the beauty of it.
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How reliable is your source for this; this would be awesome! Not only are the UI's starting to be seen as bloatware, but they would be able to release updates probably much sooner than their competitors. Price and market it right, ride the free publicity they've been getting, and Huawei could very well become the next Android standard bearer.

More competition is always welcome. I only hope they'll manage to deliver good quality for a low price. Ascend P1 S looks promising too.

It's official - Samsung is the (new) king of mobile...

Last week they overtook Nokia... this week? Apple!
http://techcrunch.com/2012/05/01/samsung-is-the-new-king-of-mobile/
Now if only they'd become the king of speedy updates

They don't update,l in order to get a update you have to buy one of the many new phones they are making. And with that motto they stand to make way more money. Why pay a software developer to sit around and design **** that gives them no returns cause its free. Makes way more dollars to pay him to develop **** for the new phone they just made and then we all flock to it dropping 200+ each knowing in 3 months they will do the same thing again it just makes cents
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LOL - well it is one way to boost to the top of the heap!

pixelens said:
Last week they overtook Nokia... this week? Apple!
http://techcrunch.com/2012/05/01/samsung-is-the-new-king-of-mobile/
Now if only they'd become the king of speedy updates
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I may be a HTC Whore but hats off to Samsung.
I'm not terribly happy that they make so many low end android devices. (yes HTC had their wildfire) its time for them to up the specs. and really give the punters some class devices. the new galaxy range should be Ace!

Megabunny said:
I may be a HTC Whore but hats off to Samsung.
I'm not terribly happy that they make so many low end android devices. (yes HTC had their wildfire) its time for them to up the specs. and really give the punters some class devices. the new galaxy range should be Ace!
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what they did made them what they are, nobody can criticize them on making low end devices, not everybody cares about smartphones or data plans, they just want the basics, and more people are like that than like us

Charge for upgrades
stepheng said:
Why pay a software developer to sit around and design **** that gives them no returns cause its free.
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Updates to fix bugs and security flaws are one thing, but an upgrade to a new OS is something more. So charge for it. Did you get Windows 7 for free when you bought your Windows Vista computer? Do you expect Windows 8 for free too?
I for one would gladly pay $20-$30 bugs for ICS on my Skyrocket. Mind you, I'd expect it to be timely and stable.

Trinition said:
Updates to fix bugs and security flaws are one thing, but an upgrade to a new OS is something more. So charge for it. Did you get Windows 7 for free when you bought your Windows Vista computer? Do you expect Windows 8 for free too?
I for one would gladly pay $20-$30 bugs for ICS on my Skyrocket. Mind you, I'd expect it to be timely and stable.
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Windows has never been "open source". Android on the other hand started and thrived on its "open source" status. It is comparing 2 different things.

King? Thats debatable

stepheng said:
They don't update,l in order to get a update you have to buy one of the many new phones they are making. And with that motto they stand to make way more money. Why pay a software developer to sit around and design **** that gives them no returns cause its free. Makes way more dollars to pay him to develop **** for the new phone they just made and then we all flock to it dropping 200+ each knowing in 3 months they will do the same thing again it just makes cents
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Thats where xda comes in lol
Trinition said:
Updates to fix bugs and security flaws are one thing, but an upgrade to a new OS is something more. So charge for it. Did you get Windows 7 for free when you bought your Windows Vista computer? Do you expect Windows 8 for free too?
I for one would gladly pay $20-$30 bugs for ICS on my Skyrocket. Mind you, I'd expect it to be timely and stable.
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Windows = closed source and money lovers. Sad but true and always will be
If you want to compare how cell phone upgrades are free and windows ones aren't well I have two thing to point out
1. Computer operating systems don't move as fast as mobile which means they gotta charge plus they just stopped supporting XP or something like that. Plus windows is overpriced.
2. Linux is free = open source
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stepheng said:
They don't update,l in order to get a update you have to buy one of the many new phones they are making. And with that motto they stand to make way more money. Why pay a software developer to sit around and design **** that gives them no returns cause its free. Makes way more dollars to pay him to develop **** for the new phone they just made and then we all flock to it dropping 200+ each knowing in 3 months they will do the same thing again it just makes cents
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Right on the money
As long as they know people will get new phones why bother quickly updating old ones, if they do at all. All the platforms have fans that will buy a new device because it's new, but Android is the most hyperactive with the shortest time frames people spend with the devices IMO.

androids dead.. wait a minute

http://m.blogs.computerworld.com/20...com/2012/05/android/androids-minute-wait-dead.
Hope the link works. In before this is old news noob search first.
Tldr: android holds 51% of all smart phones in use. Apple 30%

I feel like this 'majority' share type story has been published over and over.
Also one company with 30% of market share probably is > than many companies with 51%. Maybe a big one like Samsung has 30% of that 51%?

whosgotlag said:
I feel like this 'majority' share type story has been published over and over.
Also one company with 30% of market share probably is > than many companies with 51%. Maybe a big one like Samsung has 30% of that 51%?
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If other companies were allowed to release ios devices I dony doubt the number being higher. I guess iPhone users were going around saying iPhone has sold more numbers and theres more iPhones being used than and how android has slowed down in sales due to the new iPhone.
It was more an article that says android is more popular than iPhone in terms of the number of users than anything.

Its because android runs on so many price brackets its available to everyone from low end to way above anything iPhone could ever be android is a platform for everyone and I love it that way
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I wonder if that guy had both a Lumina and an iPhone in his ass to assist typing that article.

Lots of different stories on this today, but beyond the Android dominance is Samsung kicking ass in general.
"Samsung now sells one in four US smart phones" : http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2012/05/02/prweb9467359.DTL
Not far behind Apple, and when you factor in that at least 26% of the parts used in making iPhones are made by Samsung, guess who's really at the top...
Love Sammy. May the ass kicking continue!
Sammy makes the best devices...
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skrambled said:
Sammy makes the best devices...
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And TV's

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And TV's
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And fridges... I like their fridges

Let's tell it how it is. Neither android or iPhone are going anywhere and are making stupid amounts of money off of us.
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How the world turns. I remember when i see samsung products at kmart as the el cheapo brand 15 years ago. And now they are bigger than Sony.

true all true. If you look at the big picture, iPhone has integrated most media devices to work cohesively, syncing all with that wretched iTunes. Samsung has gone a drop further and integrated Android or Android compatible software into everything they sell: washer/dryer, fridge, camera, windows (the kind you look through), phones, tablets, printers, etc. Samsung wants to be a powerhouse, quite literally. I really do think this step is a well thought out program.
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denenatse said:
true all true. If you look at the big picture, iPhone has integrated most media devices to work cohesively, syncing all with that wretched iTunes. Samsung has gone a drop further and integrated Android or Android compatible software into everything they sell: washer/dryer, fridge, camera, windows (the kind you look through), phones, tablets, printers, etc. Samsung wants to be a powerhouse, quite literally. I really do think this step is a well thought out program.
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Man, I hate itunes! Worst thing, ever!

Apple is doing great business. Brainwash users to believe that cheaper smaller screens is what they want and that they should pay a premium price. And that not having Flash, external memory card slot is something in their best interest. Never mind the fact that people still use flash on their computer browsers on the average a dozen times a day. And if they had a memory card slot, they would probably have a memory card in there. Point out something Apple is doing to rip off their customers, and the customers who are being taken advantage of are on the side of Apple.
How hard can Apple squeeze the teets of their users until they say uncle?

xcrazydx said:
Man, I hate itunes! Worst thing, ever!
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Me too! Itunes is a total crapfest!

Lucidmike said:
Apple is doing great business. Brainwash users to believe that cheaper smaller screens is what they want and that they should pay a premium price. And that not having Flash, external memory card slot is something in their best interest. Never mind the fact that people still use flash on their computer browsers on the average a dozen times a day. And if they had a memory card slot, they would probably have a memory card in there. Point out something Apple is doing to rip off their customers, and the customers who are being taken advantage of are on the side of Apple.
How hard can Apple squeeze the teets of their users until they say uncle?
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Actually I gotta thank apple for not including flash. It really is finally dying to html5 and that is a GREAT thing. I don't think people realize how many flash like elements are not actually flash anymore. HTML5 is all over the place now. Apple and facebook have been the main reason for flash to die
I do find it funny that most of your issues with iPhones are now the "big thing" with newer androids.
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whosgotlag said:
I feel like this 'majority' share type story has been published over and over.
Also one company with 30% of market share probably is > than many companies with 51%. Maybe a big one like Samsung has 30% of that 51%?
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I have read this week that apple sold 35 million phone in Q1 2012 and samsung 41 million in Q1 2012.
Ok samsung has tons of different phone but they still kicking ass right now. And when the S3 come out sale will probably explode... same thing for the next iphone ... lets see how it goes.

I think the title should read everything but android and iPhone is dead. Which is true I think
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Apple is 1 company, android is a ****load of companies, realistically they should be doing better than one company anyways.
What we need is a good profit graph that shows what platform is actually generating money because that's the one which will be around the longest.
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Maybe you mean iOS versus android. But to compare HTC Samsung, Motorola, lg, etc, I think all those companies combined will outweigh apple in sales dramatically. So how do you really measure apple versus android in sales?
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Maybe you mean iOS versus android. But to compare HTC Samsung, Motorola, lg, etc, I think all those companies combined will outweigh apple in sales dramatically. So how do you really measure apple versus android in sales?
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Percentage of retention would probably be the most accurate mark of who is doing best. How many Droid users stay on Droid and how many switch to iPhone. And same on the other side. Higher retention is really who is winning. I know about a year and a half ago an article I read said at the time apple had a higher rentention than Droid.
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Never really thought about it until now, but we're getting raped

...figuratively, of course. I spent $600 on my One X. SIX. HUNDRED. DOLLARS. Cold hard cash. I also just spent $250 on a Nexus 7 tablet. How the hell does the One X cost more to manufacture than the Nexus 7? Take an international One X for example. Same Tegra 3 as the Nexus 7, same 16gb storage, same 1gb ram, no SD slot like the Nexus... the Nexus has a bigger battery, bigger screen, more actual material cost because well... it's bigger. Only thing the One X has that the Nexus doesn't is a camera and a cell radio. So a tiny camera chip and a cell radio add $300 more to the cost? Nuh uh, I don't think so. I always thought $600 was justifiable all things considered. I mean, the One X is a seriously powerful device and I don't mean spec-wise. You can do a TON of crap with it. But if Asus can sell a Nexus 7 for $250, then there is no way in hell $600 (okay $550 if you don't count tax) is a justifiable cost for the One X. Yeah I know the Nexus 7 is being pushed at practically cost but still, if they can sell it for that low and it still be financially justifiable, you'd think HTC would be able to push the HOX for less than what they are. Just my thoughts on the matter.

The Nexus 7 doesn't have a carrier behind it, raising the off-contract price to force us into a subsidized plan. Reminds me of the iPod Touch and the iPhone, which have almost the same guts, but the latter costs hundreds more.
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BertLingo said:
The Nexus 7 doesn't have a carrier behind it, raising the off-contract price to force us into a subsidized plan. Reminds me of the iPod Touch and the iPhone, which have almost the same guts, but the latter costs hundreds more.
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An international One X is still $550-$600 with no carrier behind it.

I read somewhere that Google doesn't make any money on any Nex7 sales also, they sell it for what they make it for.

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...figuratively, of course. I spent $600 on my One X. SIX. HUNDRED. DOLLARS. Cold hard cash. I also just spent $250 on a Nexus 7 tablet. How the hell does the One X cost more to manufacture than the Nexus 7? Take an international One X for example. Same Tegra 3 as the Nexus 7, same 16gb storage, same 1gb ram, no SD slot like the Nexus... the Nexus has a bigger battery, bigger screen, more actual material cost because well... it's bigger. Only thing the One X has that the Nexus doesn't is a camera and a cell radio. So a tiny camera chip and a cell radio add $300 more to the cost? Nuh uh, I don't think so. I always thought $600 was justifiable all things considered. I mean, the One X is a seriously powerful device and I don't mean spec-wise. You can do a TON of crap with it. But if Asus can sell a Nexus 7 for $250, then there is no way in hell $600 (okay $550 if you don't count tax) is a justifiable cost for the One X. Yeah I know the Nexus 7 is being pushed at practically cost but still, if they can sell it for that low and it still be financially justifiable, you'd think HTC would be able to push the HOX for less than what they are. Just my thoughts on the matter.
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Google has reported zero profit will come from Nexus 7 (we'll see...) and wouldn't it cost more to create an HD screen that's smaller then one that's a bit larger? Because it has a higher rate of units not passing quality control because it's harder to pack the pixels closer together?
But I agree, overpriced in a sense, $400 would seem more logical. But hell, I paid full price anyway.

Tablet manufacturers seem to be in a race to the bottom, price wise. That hasn't really happened with phones yet, I guess because there's no overwhelming giant like the iPad in the phone market.
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They are both called Tegra 3 but they are NOT the same model. As far as I am aware the screen for our phones costs more even though its smaller (higher quality + fitting more in a small space). And though a larger screen might cost more, in general it actually costs more to make the same thing in a smaller package, not less. And as someone has already mentioned Google is probably not making a dime off the actual sale of the device itself, which HTC can't really do.
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Yeah I'm sure our screen costs more to manufacture than the 7" one, and yeah smaller things cost more from an engineering standpoint but it can't be THAT much more expensive. I still think all things considered, the cost of these phones is way too high.

its like when you have a baby, diapers costs a butload

I'm sure the One X costs anywhere from $200-$350 to manufacture, so I'm guessing they are making a pretty good (around 100%) profit. Makes sense to me.
Long live the One X

Google doesn't really care about making a profit with Nexus 7. All of their profit will come from things like Play Books, Play Movies, and it will greatly expand the use of their cloud services. Pretty much the exact same thing Amazon did with the Fire.

Google could be selling the Nexus 7 at a loss like B&N and Kindle do.
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Thats how samsung is making the money.
You buy the phone for 200 or whatever, the carrier pays the rest, but you pay 100 bucks a month for service for 2 years!
So it makes sense! Unless you buy a phone every 6 months paying out full price, thats your problem -_-. The average person gets a new phone every 2 years. So they arnt getting raped, well except for the wireless plans.

rohan32 said:
I read somewhere that Google doesn't make any money on any Nex7 sales also, they sell it for what they make it for.
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Google has reported zero profit will come from Nexus 7 (we'll see...) and wouldn't it cost more to create an HD screen that's smaller then one that's a bit larger? Because it has a higher rate of units not passing quality control because it's harder to pack the pixels closer together?
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Guranto said:
Google doesn't really care about making a profit with Nexus 7. All of their profit will come from things like Play Books, Play Movies, and it will greatly expand the use of their cloud services. Pretty much the exact same thing Amazon did with the Fire.
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Andy Rubin has stated that Google and Asus stand to make virtually no profit on the Nexus 7. Also, they planned to reduce costs by selling the majority of units straight from the Play Store. And Google is going to eat the cost of marketing all on their own. That's another big cost that needs to be taken into account, marketing.
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expertzero1 said:
its like when you have a baby, diapers costs a butload
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I dont really know why but I seriously lol'd at this ridiculous comment. Thanks
Also for the topic...won't Google make a ton on play store sales of magazines and games and movies and TV content?
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Nobody ever factors in the cost of R&D.

gunnyman said:
Nobody ever factors in the cost of R&D.
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exactly, theres alot more than "glue these parts together and sell it." While I do think $600 is alot of money, nobody is forcing you to buy anything you gotta pay to play

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Nobody ever factors in the cost of R&D.
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Reminds me of an argument I once had with someone. "Why to video games cost 60 bucks? I could buy a DVD and burn stuff on it for a few cents" I then asked if he ever stuck around for the credits just to see all the people who worked on the game...

BertLingo said:
The Nexus 7 doesn't have a carrier behind it, raising the off-contract price to force us into a subsidized plan. Reminds me of the iPod Touch and the iPhone, which have almost the same guts, but the latter costs hundreds more.
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This really doesn't have anything to do with OP's question.
The One X has extra components inside it, adding to the cost - the high quality camera, the cellular radio, the fact that the components are smaller, etc.
Also, HTC is in a strategy to actually turn a profit on their devices, whereas Google is just making a push for their content. People buy a Nexus 7, and then spend money on Books, Magazines, Shows, Movies, etc. and they recoup some of the money put into making the Nexus.

live4nyy said:
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Andy Rubin has stated that Google and Asus stand to make virtually no profit on the Nexus 7. Also, they planned to reduce costs by selling the majority of units straight from the Play Store. And Google is going to eat the cost of marketing all on their own. That's another big cost that needs to be taken into account, marketing.
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This.
While Apple continues to fight in the courtroom, Google continues to chase an increasing market share. This time, the focus is, in large part, on a tablet. There's a huge market there, and Google wants in.
Asus has been trying to get into Android, and had mediocre success. Nothing against their products, they just don't have a huge name like Moto, Samsung, LG, HTC, etc. Google's partnering with Asus here is quite strategic, IMO. Asus gets to showcase their work and craftsmanship, while Google gets to ensure a low price. Both cut profits to nothing to increase market share.
Very strategic and bold.
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Why wont google make a better phone?

why are they shooting for cheap?? why not price it at 500-600 dollars but make it a quality phone?? show the world what they are capable of.

HRodMusic said:
why are they shooting for cheap?? why not price it at 500-600 dollars but make it a quality phone?? show the world what they are capable of.
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Price at £500, get x sales
Price at £300, get 2x sales + recognition as a reasonably pricing company, with a quality product, and a lot more factors.
It's business. That's why.

Why post this question? This is another useless thread.

Honestly the nexus 5's quality is on par with some of the higher end smartphones available right now. Admittingly the speakers and camera are not the best, but other than that it's a good phone. There's really no reason for most companies to jack up the price of their phones to $500-600. Just because it costs that much doesn't mean it's quality. If you look at how much it costs to build a nexus phone, vs a leading high end smartphone, you'll see there's not a lot of difference.

They want to put this phone in as many hands as they can. What do you think they make all that money from?

What do you mean? Google is barely charging a mark up. That's why its cheap. Not because they're using. Cheap parts
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sunil237 said:
Price at £500, get x sales
Price at £300, get 2x sales + recognition as a reasonably pricing company, with a quality product, and a lot more factors.
It's business. That's why.
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than have 2 products. gotta please your other customers that want the very best.

jd1639 said:
Why post this question? This is another useless thread.
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its not useless, i just want to see what other people think. if you disagree, then tell me why you prefer just the cheap version.
Thanks.

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HRodMusic said:
its not useless, i just want to see what other people think. if you disagree, then tell me why you prefer just the cheap version.
Thanks.
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I think you're the only one here who believes this phone is cheap. Again as stated before, Google does not mark up their devices very much, thus creating a more affordable price. Samsung, HTC, Apple, everyone else will mark theirs up a lot more, but they also do this to pay the middle man (warehouses, retail stores, etc). Google sells their own hardware on their own website, so they're cutting out a lot of the middle men, thus keeping prices down.

Rarscaryfrosty said:
I think you're the only one here who believes this phone is cheap. Again as stated before, Google does not mark up their devices very much, thus creating a more affordable price. Samsung, HTC, Apple, everyone else will mark theirs up a lot more, but they also do this to pay the middle man (warehouses, retail stores, etc). Google sells their own hardware on their own website, so they're cutting out a lot of the middle men, thus keeping prices down.
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i guess my expectations where just very high, and all we got was a mediocre phone that competes with early this year devices, gs4 and htc one etc...

Seems like people are really stuck on stats and fluff.
So if the N5 had aluminum, would that make it "premium"?
Does it need a 42MP camera, with 3.5GHz 8 core CPU, 4GB RAM, 4K display and 128GB ROM?
Why not make a smart phone that is truly smart, doesn't need bleeding edge stats to run AND be affordable. Oh, that's right Google has already done that with the Moto X and now N5.

HRodMusic said:
i guess my expectations where just very high, and all we got was a mediocre phone that competes with early this year devices, gs4 and htc one etc...
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You have had 15 phones in the past 39 months (a phone change every 2.6 months). I don't see why this is a big deal for you. If they did make a 'better phone' there would be an even better one released a couple months later. They are building a brand...normal people are starting to understand what a Nexus device is (and most can afford one). To put a whole new chipset in a phone requires substantially more money and carries more chances of bugs. Google is starting to influence hardware chip designs with Android's features and I am sure they have a plan to release a feature complete phone that is better than everything else in due time.
Stop complaining and enjoy your new toy.

Then the OEMS have no reason to complete other than custom skins. Like Microsoft and windows 8 tablet and phones
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HRodMusic said:
i guess my expectations where just very high, and all we got was a mediocre phone that competes with early this year devices, gs4 and htc one etc...
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Sell it and buy yourself an Iphone 5S, you haven't tried that yet. Maybe that will satisfy your high expectations. :fingers-crossed:

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Sell it and buy yourself an Iphone 5S, you haven't tried that yet. Maybe that will satisfy your high expectations. :fingers-crossed:
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hahaha naw im good with the iphone 5 for now.

Can we have this thread closed, it's another unnecessary thread that doesn't help with anything and is also in the wrong section.
Please close.
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Nexus 5 is awesome. Enuff said!
Also agree pointless thread.
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The Nexus `s are meant to serve as an example and showcase for other oem`s regarding how software should be like. That aside the Nexus 5 hardware is very very good compared to the price you pay

Can't wait till all the love or hate threads die down.
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