I love my S4, and I really have no problems with TouchWiz, apart from the gigantic size of /system (makes it a bear when making and storing frequent nandroid backups). I've been playing around with the Google Edition ROM v1.3 for the past couple of days, and I'm really impressed with the small size of the ROM, and the noticeable "snappiness" that it brings to my device (the stock rom with OTA and reduced bloatware is fine, but G.E. seems just a hair faster).
That being said, I'm returning back to the nandroid of my stock rom for now, and here's a list of reasons why:
I absolutely LOVE Samsung's camera app that's in TW. I know that someone is already working on porting it over to G.E., but this is something I can't go without in the meantime.
I miss the cool lockscreen "lens flare" effect. It seems such a trivial thing, but I do miss it.
The Samsung Keyboard. I'm really surprised nobody has ported this over to AOSP yet (link me to it if I'm wrong). Some of the haters hate the Samsung keyboard, but I much prefer it over every other one I've tried, including AOSP/Google, Swiftkey, and several others available in the Play Store.
I liked the toggles on the notification bar. I found a suitable replacement, though, so it's hard for me to list this one.
Stock music player. The Google Edition only comes with Google Play Music it seems? I just want my stock music player back tyvm. *shrug* Maybe I missed something, but I just want to play my MP3's offline without subscribing to something ridiculous and unnecessary.
I liked the Optical Reader that came with stock. Again, this is trivial because there's so many replacements on the Market, but Samsung's version was pretty nice. G.E. doesn't seem to have one out-of-the-box that I've seen...
Stock Dialer. This is a huge one for me, the more I think about it. Back when I had my S2 and I moved from TW to CM, I missed the same feature that's missing in G.E.: dialing contacts by name! Very frustrating to have to search through my contacts list, rather than simply dialing "john" on the keypad. -_-
I did have an issue with the Reboot option missing, but thankfully Modaco's Xposed Mod works great to restore this. So, really a non-issue now...
S Beam is nice. I know AOSP/G.E. have "Android Beam", but iirc, it's not nearly as quick and smooth as S Beam is. My wife has the Note2 running rooted stock, so it's a nice feature to share larger files very quickly with her.
The stock TW launcher is nice - I don't see what everyone is fussing about. It's smooth, it's customizable, it loops around, and does everything I could ask for. The one in Google Edition isn't that nice. I know your response is, "why not just download another one?" Because I feel I shouldn't have to, that's why
Group Play anyone? I'm sure this will get ported over eventually, but it's not immediately available that I'm aware of.
While some of the extra features on the S4 are very "gimmicky" (i.e. air view/gesture, smart stay, etc.), they are also some of the very features that make the S4 unique amongst its peers. It's fun to show these off, once in a while, and I sometimes find them useful. Without all this, I feel like I'm just using a super-fast, super-sized Galaxy S2 running CM10.1 again.
There might be a few minor insignificant things I'm missing on this list, but that's everything I can puke out right now. Now you may ask, "what's the purpose of this thread?? why complain here??" - First, I don't want to plug up the G.E. thread more than it is already (I feel guilty for contributing to that mess already). Second, I'm somewhat hoping that each of these items can be addressed, fully and completely, at some point or another. I know the G.E. rom is very fresh, and work is currently underway to port some of these TW elements to it. It may be a while, it may be never. But perhaps there will be sufficient and acceptable alternatives to each of these, and perhaps the masses here on XDA can sway me back into Google Edition before long. Lastly, I could only hope that someone else might find this thread useful. Perhaps someone is debating making the jump to G.E. right now, and would like to know what it's like in comparison. Hope this helps you, Mr. On-The-Fence.
Now please, keep this thread clean. Perhaps offer your own gripes about Google Edition (versus TW)? Perhaps even add the things you love about G.E. (there are plenty to list, I'm sure!). Perhaps offer solutions to some of the items I've listed above. But posting things like "G.E. is AOSP-based, and doesn't have all these touchwiz things, get over it." won't help anyone.
Okay.... Go!
Lack of Launcher Options. Coming from CM10.1, AOSP as well basically, I'm used to having more launcher options such as # of rows, and such. This can be fixed easily using Nova or some other Launcher.
Obviously you just need to run a debloated stock based rom, GE is clearly not for you. I think you are missing the point of GE.
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Noobla_Khan said:
Obviously you just need to run a debloated stock based rom, GE is clearly not for you. I think you are missing the point of GE.
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... Not meaning to argue at all, but that's what I'm doing now (running stock, manually-debloated rom). This was kinda the whole purpose of the thread - explaining why G.E. is clearly not what I need right now.
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... Not meaning to argue at all, but that's what I'm doing now (running stock, manually-debloated rom). This was kinda the whole purpose of the thread - explaining why G.E. is clearly not what I need right now.
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No arguement here but changing GE to include everything you listed is kinda pointless as you want to turn GE into a TW rom.
Try out some of the stock based roms, you might find one with that snappiness you are looking for. SHOStock and CleanRom are both excellent stock based roms.
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I think the Samsung firmware (as they call it) is the best for our phones currently because there are hardware drivers built in to the factory firmware and I think the Google edition rom does not have those and is just using generic drivers. I noticed the auto brightness doesn't really work at all with the ge rom. And the phone battery died real fast with the ge rom. Not to mention you miss the widgets and some of the nicer Samsung built in features.
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Google Edition: If someone could hack it so I can customize the quick-settings toggles and add a torch button and fix the "car dock" mode to work like it does in Cyanogen (which is correctly) then I'd still be on it.
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I think the Samsung firmware (as they call it) is the best for our phones currently because there are hardware drivers built in to the factory firmware and I think the Google edition rom does not have those and is just using generic drivers. I noticed the auto brightness doesn't really work at all with the ge rom. And the phone battery died real fast with the ge rom. Not to mention you miss the widgets and some of the nicer Samsung built in features.
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The GE firmware is maintained by Samsung, Google is not maintaining this. The drivers in the rom are the actual Samsung drivers for the GE S4. The GE 4.3 leak that is out there supposedly was leaked by Samsung. The point of the Google Edition software is to be bone stock Android with no manufacturer or carrier software(except drivers). This is why you are not going to see the spiffy camera modes or use of sensors for smart stay and such, Google does not develop this software and Samsung is keeping it stock for GE.
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CZ Eddie said:
Google Edition: If someone could hack it so I can customize the quick-settings toggles and add a torch button and fix the "car dock" mode to work like it does in Cyanogen (which is correctly) then I'd still be on it.
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Someone will eventually get some of this stuff working on modified GE roms no doubt. CyanogenMod will eventually be great on this phone as well and I'm hoping the GE firmware will help to that end.
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The GE firmware is maintained by Samsung, Google is not maintaining this. The drivers in the rom are the actual Samsung drivers for the GE S4. The GE 4.3 leak that is out there supposedly was leaked by Samsung. The point of the Google Edition software is to be bone stock Android with no manufacturer or carrier software(except drivers). This is why you are not going to see the spiffy camera modes or use of sensors for smart stay and such, Google does not develop this software and Samsung is keeping it stock for GE.
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Someone will eventually get some of this stuff working on modified GE roms no doubt. CyanogenMod will eventually be great on this phone as well and I'm hoping the GE firmware will help to that end.
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Yeah but I think Sammy pulled a little bit of a fast one as the GE build still contains the touwiz frameworks. Not sure if they just left em there or if they're still called on.
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Still like stock the most at this point. The s4 comes with 4.2.2 out of the box and works way better with the stock rom.
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I have a Nexus 4 as a 2nd phone and go between that and my S4 often. I love both, but I really have to agree with the OP that the TW Camera app is really nice and having it not working on the GE or any ASOP/AKOP ROMs is a deal breaker for me. I use my phone primarily for calls, camera, and social media (that's it). If the TW camera app gets ported over then I'm definitely making the switch to GE for the S4 because I love the stock Nexus experience.
Also it dives me nuts that 7GB is used by the stock ROM, or should I say that I only get 9GB to use in the internal memory.
dstech said:
I have a Nexus 4 as a 2nd phone and go between that and my S4 often. I love both, but I really have to agree with the OP that the TW Camera app is really nice and having it not working on the GE or any ASOP/AKOP ROMs is a deal breaker for me. I use my phone primarily for calls, camera, and social media (that's it). If the TW camera app gets ported over then I'm definitely making the switch to GE for the S4 because I love the stock Nexus experience.
Also it dives me nuts that 7GB is used by the stock ROM, or should I say that I only get 9GB to use in the internal memory.
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Not totally there yet, but good progress has been made.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43054051&highlight=camera+apk#post43054051
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The GE firmware is maintained by Samsung, Google is not maintaining this. The drivers in the rom are the actual Samsung drivers for the GE S4. The GE 4.3 leak that is out there supposedly was leaked by Samsung. The point of the Google Edition software is to be bone stock Android with no manufacturer or carrier software(except drivers). This is why you are not going to see the spiffy camera modes or use of sensors for smart stay and such, Google does not develop this software and Samsung is keeping it stock for GE.
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Someone will eventually get some of this stuff working on modified GE roms no doubt. CyanogenMod will eventually be great on this phone as well and I'm hoping the GE firmware will help to that end.
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I suppose what I was expecting from Samsung in the Google Edition was some sort of hybrid between a non-carrier-branded OS (e.g. no AT&T bloatware whatsoever) and AOSP. I was hoping for the basic Samsung apps - enough to get the hardware "goodies" to work, but optional to remove them entirely if needed, so that users could easily bring it to an AOSP experience if they so desired (perhaps without even root!).
Alas, it appears G.E. is about the equivalent of AOSP with a few drivers and carrots thrown in by Samsung.
Actually, I thought GE was going to design their own OS, man, was I wrong.
you're better off using something like Task650, looks similar to GE, with all the bells and whistles.
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I suppose what I was expecting from Samsung in the Google Edition was some sort of hybrid between a non-carrier-branded OS (e.g. no AT&T bloatware whatsoever) and AOSP. I was hoping for the basic Samsung apps - enough to get the hardware "goodies" to work, but optional to remove them entirely if needed, so that users could easily bring it to an AOSP experience if they so desired (perhaps without even root!).
Alas, it appears G.E. is about the equivalent of AOSP with a few drivers and carrots thrown in by Samsung.
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The only carrot would be that in GE 4.2.2 the TW framework is still there for some reason so some Samsung software(camera app) will get ported over and likely work. In GE 4.3 there does not appear to be TW framework.
Until CyanongenMod gets there software nailed down for S4 I am running this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2305752
With this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2307355
Running pretty damn nice.
My only gripe is that I find the speaker output really low. I'm constantly missing notifications and calls if I'm not right on my phone.
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I have all of sammie's features without the ugly touchwiz UI + all the unneeded bloat is gone. With nova launcher's aggressive desktop and the crossbreeder mod, it's every bit as responsive and fast as the GE edition. I also have CPA Poke's mms.apk mod for aosp texting and emoji's so you're not really missing anything going with this route.
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My only gripe is that I find the speaker output really low. I'm constantly missing notifications and calls if I'm not right on my phone.
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That reminds me... It might have been my imagination but it seemed like the display output was dimmer than stock too.
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The only carrot would be that in GE 4.2.2 the TW framework is still there for some reason so some Samsung software(camera app) will get ported over and likely work. In GE 4.3 there does not appear to be TW framework.
Until CyanongenMod gets there software nailed down for S4 I am running this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2305752
With this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2307355
Running pretty damn nice.
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Thanks for the TrulyClean link. I'll dissect it and see if there's any bloatware that I missed when I manually debloated my own device. I've never felt comfortable running some of these "debloat" scripts, because I'm always afraid that it'll remove something that I actually did want. :/ This is actually the same reason I'm hesitant to try some of these custom, stock-based roms - frequently they make too many modifications from the original ROM, to the point where it's no longer something I desire. In the case of G.E., I tried it because it was at least "stock" on some devices somewhere.
doug0365 said:
My only gripe is that I find the speaker output really low. I'm constantly missing notifications and calls if I'm not right on my phone.
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Have you looked into this yet? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2293133
Looks like a LOT of work, but might be worth it if it's your only issue with G.E.
My sig says it all. It's just better...
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All,
I've always had google (nexus devices) and decided to give the HTC One S a go. Honestly, this sense is a bad joke/torture device. Between the linkifyapp, multi-tasking, sense specific apps(calendar, dialer, sms etc) which are just abominations, i've had ENOUGH. These mods are done with absolutely no thought to usability or seamlessness.
Time to try AOSP build, or then return this phone and unfortunately get a plasticy SGSIII with easily available AOSP.
/rant
A few questions:
1) Which AOSP rom would you recommend I run (which one is closest to nexus builds)
a) CM9
b)evervolv
c)AOKP
d)other
2) What are major issues to consider when going to an AOSP rom on this phone?
a) Is there a way to get wifi calling on these roms
b) Does the crap VOIP pop go away on these roms?
3) Are there any issues in getting back to stock incase I need to return?
4) How is the camera compared to the stock cam app (only awesome appon this phone)?
Let me know, i'm going to do this today
Best,
I have a lot of the same questions for this phone. I really think the only option worth using will be CM9 if and when there is an official build for the HOS. Totally agree with the camera app. The thing that makes me nervous with CM9 is losing the excellent camera functionality. Its for that reason that I'm still stock and waiting. The VOIP popping sound is annoying, although I'm glad I'm not the only one with the issue. I just want to go back to a clean AOSP based ROM, but from what I've seen there really isnt a good option unless you want to try an Alpha of CM9.
i love the stock HTC one S its brill.
DownloaderZ said:
All,
A few questions:
1) Which AOSP rom would you recommend I run (which one is closest to nexus builds)
a) CM9
b)evervolv
c)AOKP
d)other
2) What are major issues to consider when going to an AOSP rom on this phone?
a) Is there a way to get wifi calling on these roms
b) Does the crap VOIP pop go away on these roms?
3) Are there any issues in getting back to stock incase I need to return?
4) How is the camera compared to the stock cam app (only awesome appon this phone)?
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1) I would not recommend any of them until there are stable releases available. If I were going to install any of them, I'd choose CM9.
2) List of non-working features are listed in the OP of the CM9 thread. Not sure if the popping sound has been fixed in AOSP.
3) Pretty sure you would use the same method as any other ROM... RUU, relock bottloader, etc.
4) No idea, but would I would be surprised if the stock camera app could not be loaded onto AOSP.
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4) No idea, but would I would be surprised if the stock camera app could not be loaded onto AOSP.
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I've read so many times that extracting the stock Sense camera app is going to be a nightmare since it's so deeply rooted into the whole of Sense. So most likely, it's going to be a trade-off situation.
The Ville has official AOKP so that would be your best bet.
I agree with you. I have always disliked Sense since HTC first released it.
1) All are pretty close to stock ICS. CM9 is probably the closest. I prefer AOKP as it has more tweaks, IMO.
2) Wifi calling as of right now is a no-go. I don't know if someone is working on it, and I don't care as I do not use it. One gripe of switching to AOSP is the camera, more info below.
3) In a custom recovery, make a backup of your stock ROM (sense). If you **** anything up you can always go back to exactly what you had when you made the backup.
4) AOSP camera is **** compared to Sense. No burst shot, shutter has lag, video barely works, and no panorama. There is no HDR mode as well, which I really like on the stock. The camera is the BIGGEST turn down when switching to Sense. It is why I am still on Sense.
CSP, what Aokp rom are you talking about? Pm me a link or something. Want to look into it.
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Please stop with the bull****!
CM9 is very stable on the One S. Great battery life and smooth. Camera and camcorder working great and even takes pics while filming.(idk wtf guy above is saying about camera)
AOKP is basically CM9 but with more tweaks and at the moment not as stable as CM due to a few bugs but overall good enough for daily driver.
Every AOSP custom rom is basically CM9 so if you want stock like the OP says about his Nexus S...CM9 only way to go!
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A lot of people buy HTC phones with sense but don't like sense that makes no sense
Samsung has touchwiz or get a nexus with aosp as post above suggests.
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glacierguy said:
A lot of people buy HTC phones with sense but don't like sense that makes no sense
Samsung has touchwiz or get a nexus with aosp as post above suggests.
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I think most of us bought the phone because of the great specs. There are a lot of people who get Samsung phones but dislike touchwiz. It's all personal preference...
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I think most of us bought the phone because of the great specs. There are a lot of people who get Samsung phones but dislike touchwiz. It's all personal preference...
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+1. Im on T-Mobile, loved the specs on the HOS even over the SGSIII. Disliked Sense but disliked touchwiz even more. Decided to go with the best house in a bad neighborhood in terms of bloated android overlays. I honestly do not see why manufacturers feel the need to "improve" upon Android. Its perfect in its unadulterated state. One man's opinion of course. The HOS would absolutely fly on 4.1 with no extra BS on top of it.
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I have owned Htc devices since the G1 I got the 1S for my girl when the upgrade was available I had to send the 1S back for replacement due to data issues (T-mobile) They sent me another one with an older baseband hell I rooted it put a stock sense Rom on it and told the girl here you go it works great and is fast camera is awesome I replaced my Sensation with the play store Gnex all I can say is HOLY **** what a piece this is IMHO it blows away any of the devices I have previosly owned including the 1S my girl has now plus I don't need to wait on HTC or T-mobile to provide an outdated update for the device I currently am running JB V.1 pre release and its badd azz I run aokp aosp both and they just fly I think the camera is fine and getting updates from google is much better than going thru the carriers at 349.95 right now thats a deal ----so long sense/Htc I had all the fun I could stand
Long time Continuum and Fascinate user. Just got the Verizon GS3 Yesterday. Spent way too much time reading a million different threads and doing a million different google searches. Figured I'd just ask my questions in one post and be done with it.
On my previous Galaxy S phones I loved everything about CM9 and AOKP except that losing TouchWiz meant the camera took a major step backwards. The battery life also wasn't quite as good as the stock ROMs. Ultimately I couldn't take being stuck on Gingerbread any longer so I went full time to AOKP and lived with the fact that my HD videos no longer looked anywhere near as good.
I can't even find but one thread on a different website that seems to refer to AOKP for the Verizon GS3 and it was only 6 pages of posts so that gives me great pause.
My questions are these.
Are there significant trade-offs ditching TW-based ROMs and going to CM10 or AOKP? If so, what is lost by ditching TouchWiz that is of value?
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Long time Continuum and Fascinate user. Just got the Verizon GS3 Yesterday. Spent way too much time reading a million different threads and doing a million different google searches. Figured I'd just ask my questions in one post and be done with it.
On my previous Galaxy S phones I loved everything about CM9 and AOKP except that losing TouchWiz meant the camera took a major step backwards. The battery life also wasn't quite as good as the stock ROMs. Ultimately I couldn't take being stuck on Gingerbread any longer so I went full time to AOKP and lived with the fact that my HD videos no longer looked anywhere near as good.
I can't even find but one thread on a different website that seems to refer to AOKP for the Verizon GS3 and it was only 6 pages of posts so that gives me great pause.
My questions are these.
Are there significant trade-offs ditching TW-based ROMs and going to CM10 or AOKP? If so, what is lost by ditching TouchWiz that is of value?
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I switched from stock to AOSP and then tried using some TW-based ROMs on 4.1.1 such as CleanRom, LeanMeanJellyBeanMachine, etc. and I always end up switching back to AOSP. Currently, my favorite AOSP ROM is LiquidSmooth as I really like the customizations I can make with the ROM and how most things work. However, here are some differences between AOSP vs TW-based ROMs in a nutshell:
1. AOSP ROMs support for 4.2 camera is buggy currently. You have to touch the middle section to focus before you take a picture or it force closes where as TW-based ROMs do not have this problem with the 4.2 camera.
2. AOSP ROMs have more free RAM available than TW ROMs.
3. AOSP ROMs seem to be more customizable. The only example I can give of this is setting the clock along with AM/PM and the day (such as mon, tue, etc.) on the homescreen. I'm not 100% sure on this but I think there are more customizations on the lock screen as well.
4. I've heard that TW based ROMs are generally more stable than AOSP ROMs simply because AOSP wasn't originally designed for the Samsung Galaxy S 3 but somebody just hacked it up and ported it over so that it'd work on it.
5. This is not really major but AOSP/CM10 ROMs turn off the screen similar to how an old TV set used to turn off while TW-based ROMs have no special animation for the screen turning off so that's a plus for AOSP where it has a cool animation for turning off the screen.
6. I personally like the default launcher for AOSP better than TW but you can always install a different launcher for TW.
I hope this helps clarify AOSP ROMs vs TW based ROMs for you a little bit and please remember to thank me if it helped you.
In general, I would prefer AOSP except for the fact that it seems to get worse reception. Also when the signal is poor AOSP seems to handle data connections less gracefully. Seeing as I'm often in poor reception areas, I always find myself going back to TW.
Touchwiz is superior to aosp on the s3 and probably any other future samsung devices. Even kejar who was a main dev for aokp said he will most likely build a modded touchwiz rom for the note2, thats how much touchwiz has improved from the fascinate days.
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That being said im not bashing aosp...
droidstyle said:
Touchwiz is superior to aosp on the s3 and probably any other future samsung devices. Even kejar who was a main dev for aokp said he will most likely build a modded touchwiz rom for the note2, thats how much touchwiz has improved from the fascinate days.
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That being said im not bashing aosp...
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Can you provide any reasons why you would prefer Touchwiz to AOSP though? Saying Touchwiz is superior without giving any reasons seems to be a vague and subjective statement in my opinion.
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Can you provide any reasons why you would prefer Touchwiz to AOSP though? Saying Touchwiz is superior without giving any reasons seems to be a vague and subjective statement in my opinion.
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I love the innovative features that Touchwiz brings that AOSP doesn't. Small things like Smart Stay, Motion Controls, and Slide to Text/Call keep me to love TouchWiz. Not only are the features great, but performance wise, it's great too. Samsung obviously optimized the hell out of the ICS builds of TouchWiz and did so with Jelly Bean too. Speed on TouchWiz is pretty much the same with any high quality AOSP rom.
The S3 is an extremely powerful phone and TW is very light (e.g. much lighter compared to Sense). The result is that the traditional benefits of AOSP (faster phone, more space, responsive) don't really apply.
Samsung also includes special codecs for the video player which only work with TW. Use a custom launcher and you have 90% of the benefits of a custom rom.
The TW launcher, camera, video and music players are IMO all very high quality.
I'd say touch wiz since miui isn't the most stable/bug free. Samsung out did themselves with the new touch wiz, they added slide hand across screen for screen shot, pop out video player, smart stay (screen stays on as long as you're looking at it), when viewing contact/message you can bring the phone to your ear and it will automatically begin calling said contact. Flip to mute sound, slide to call, built in notification settings toggles( airplane, WiFi, data, etc.) And that is just to name a few of the features.
Here is a link on a couple http://www.androidcentral.com/top-10-things-you-need-know-about-your-galaxy-s-iii
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Yes. I am actually fine with TouchWiz on my phone. This phone is freaking ridiculously fast. TouchWiz is just so hideous. After running aokp for several months on the phone I just upgraded from it's just kind of disappointing to see how Samsung has hijacked the notification curtain and made it look so awful. They also somehow stripped some functionality out of it. On aokp for my Fascinate you could minimize and maximize notifications. That was a feature added in Jelly Bean that isn't present in this leaked JB build apparently.
Most of the TouchWiz feature are neat but I wouldn't miss them. The camera and battery life are critical though.
I walk much prefer AOSP email, dialer,and SMS apps.
Basically if I could keep this TW build but add every element of AOSP I want I'd be happy.
Am going to be interested in MHL mirroring eventually too. I assume if I wanted to mirror my Dish network feed to a TV the only way the digital rights have a chance of being ignored it would be on AOSP
Well I found a thread allowing me to install AOSP Email in place of the vision-impaired crappy email app of TouchWiz.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1962097
This helps tremendously. No success yet finding a way to get JB dialer/phone/contacts working on a TW ROM but that would be tremendous.
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I love the innovative features that Touchwiz brings that AOSP doesn't. Small things like Smart Stay, Motion Controls, and Slide to Text/Call keep me to love TouchWiz. Not only are the features great, but performance wise, it's great too. Samsung obviously optimized the hell out of the ICS builds of TouchWiz and did so with Jelly Bean too. Speed on TouchWiz is pretty much the same with any high quality AOSP rom.
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Can you provide any reasons why you would prefer Touchwiz to AOSP though? Saying Touchwiz is superior without giving any reasons seems to be a vague and subjective statement in my opinion.
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Didnt feel i needed to write a novel on this...spend a little time using both and you will know exactly what im saying.
Try this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2011503
The developer has great guides for many mods and some with flashable zips.
I've been using the GS3 since it came out and have had this weird back and forth opinion of TouchWiz and AOSP. I was just wanting to get the opinion of the rest of the community to see if anyone feels the same way I do. Opinion Below:
For some strange reason, I feel better using the Galaxy S III with the TouchWiz UX interface. I used it for a number of months with CM10, but when I was using that interface, I didn't feel like I was using a my Samsung Phone. Even though I had a Galaxy Nexus and loved my time with it (before i dropped it in the river...), the same interface on this particular phone just didn't feel "right". Like I was emulating a completely different version of android. But the moment I loaded CleanRom 5.5.1, all the feeling of the GS3 came back. I can't really explain it, but it just feels good. the software goes to well with the screen size, the way I hold the phone, and (sorry, but) I now love S Voice more than Google's Voice Commands. i can set timers, text people, set events for work and S Voice locks onto my voice so much quicker than when it's older versions.
Again, this is just my opinion, but I would love to hear your reasons for picking one over the other, what killer thing you can't live without, or even why you don't care. I'm down for any conversation.
me too. i tried all the aosp roms and miui. and always find myself going back to stock touchwiz. which is funny. i remember before i bought the phone all i heard was "the only bad thing is it has touchwiz UI" and " touchwiz sucks" and i absolutely love it.
i prefer AOSP
TW but using Nova Launcher and Google Now instead of S Voice.
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I've been using the GS3 since it came out and have had this weird back and forth opinion of TouchWiz and AOSP. I was just wanting to get the opinion of the rest of the community to see if anyone feels the same way I do. Opinion Below:
For some strange reason, I feel better using the Galaxy S III with the TouchWiz UX interface. I used it for a number of months with CM10, but when I was using that interface, I didn't feel like I was using a my Samsung Phone. Even though I had a Galaxy Nexus and loved my time with it (before i dropped it in the river...), the same interface on this particular phone just didn't feel "right". Like I was emulating a completely different version of android. But the moment I loaded CleanRom 5.5.1, all the feeling of the GS3 came back. I can't really explain it, but it just feels good. the software goes to well with the screen size, the way I hold the phone, and (sorry, but) I now love S Voice more than Google's Voice Commands. i can set timers, text people, set events for work and S Voice locks onto my voice so much quicker than when it's older versions.
Again, this is just my opinion, but I would love to hear your reasons for picking one over the other, what killer thing you can't live without, or even why you don't care. I'm down for any conversation.
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Basically CM/AOSP/AOKP is the Nexus with better hardware. If you want the same thing but faster that is where you go. If want all the bells and whistles you go TW. It is what you looking for. I stick with TW where all works and run all the 4.1.1/4.1.2/4.2/4.2.1 apps that we can port. I want everything on my $600 device to work . That includes every option that came on the phone. To me breaking the phone to go fast is not an option. Newer options are worthless if all you can do is call if you are lucky. I could call with a brick in the 70's. :laugh:
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Basically CM/AOSP/AOKP is the Nexus with better hardware. If you want the same thing but faster that is where you go. If want all the bells and whistles you go TW. It is what you looking for. I stick with TW where all works and run all the 4.1.1/4.1.2/4.2/4.2.1 apps that we can port. I want everything on my $600 device to work . That includes every option that came on the phone. To me breaking the phone to go fast is not an option. Newer options are worthless if all you can do is call if you are lucky. I could call with a brick in the 70's. :laugh:
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I didn't really think of it in those terms, but that's pretty much dead on. with CM10, i did a lot more CPU management, tweaking, and seeing what little things i could change to make the phone break the laws of physics (didn't do it). And with TouchWiz. I kinda just sit back and use my phone as a phone. call, text, watch youtube. I still like to keep my titanium backups synced to dropbox, but not much more.
Random, but every time I load a new ROM that I've never used before, the first thing I do is call one of my parents. Always need to make sure I can send a phone call.
I don't mind touchwiz all that much. Couldn't stand sense or moto blur but tw the isn't all that bad. Throw on apex the launcher and I'm good to go.
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I didn't really think of it in those terms, but that's pretty much dead on. with CM10, i did a lot more CPU management, tweaking, and seeing what little things i could change to make the phone break the laws of physics (didn't do it). And with TouchWiz. I kinda just sit back and use my phone as a phone. call, text, watch youtube. I still like to keep my titanium backups synced to dropbox, but not much more.
Random, but every time I load a new ROM that I've never used before, the first thing I do is call one of my parents. Always need to make sure I can send a phone call.
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Man I'm probably old enough to be your daddy. :laugh: I been playing and testing for some of the best in the business for a while. If it broke it is not cutting edge. Making broke go faster makes no sense to me. You should be able to make what works go faster and still work. Being on the cutting edge of broke is for the devs not for the masses. Once stable go for it. But if your wife, girlfriend or parents can't get hold of you cause your on cutting edge of broke you have a problem.
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Man I'm probably old enough to be your daddy. :laugh: I been playing and testing for some of the best in the business for a while. If it broke it is not cutting edge. Making broke go faster makes no sense to me. You should be able to make what works go faster and still work. Being on the cutting edge of broke is for the devs not for the masses. Once stable go for it. But if your wife, girlfriend or parents can't get hold of you cause your on cutting edge of broke you have a problem.
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I agree completely about you being old.
Between the Data not working on CM10.1 for the first week or so, and little errors that come with devs trying to port other phones' features into their ROM's, I was prompted to go back to CleanROM and just take a breath from all the flashing and rebooting. I'll be looking for that 4.1.2 update. but I'll stay away from the real crazy stuff.
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I agree completely about you being old.
Between the Data not working on CM10.1 for the first week or so, and little errors that come with devs trying to port other phones' features into their ROM's, I was prompted to go back to CleanROM and just take a breath from all the flashing and rebooting. I'll be looking for that 4.1.2 update. but I'll stay away from the real crazy stuff.
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I'm currently on Beans stock deodex with Ziggy's latest kernel @1.72/384. Kinda craps mods and Moto's International VRTheme. All Gapps 4.1-4.2 inverted. Rock stable and running 6500 Quads. Everything works including call recording.
I've been flashing for awhile.
At this point (actually - Nov 1st) I've been CleanROM only. Everything "works" + mixed with WasabiWa's themes - I'm a happy man.
This is the tamest my crack flashing has ever been. It's almost scary. TW JB is pretty nice...
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I've been flashing for awhile.
At this point (actually - Nov 1st) I've been CleanROM only. Everything "works" + mixed with WasabiWa's themes - I'm a happy man.
This is the tamest my crack flashing has ever been. It's almost scary. TW JB is pretty nice...
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Wolfe don't be sucking these kids in for the kill. I'm stock tweaked, deodexed, kerneled and themed. Rockin it . :laugh:
I can't imagine AOSP being much faster than TW with the necessary apps frozen. On my old phones AOSP was definitely the way to go, but the S3 is so powerful anyways, and TW isn't very heavy anymore.
And, in all honesty, the TW Camera app alone is worth it for me to stay on TW. All the non-TW camera apps pale in comparison, both in quality and options.
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Haha.. made me laugh
I honestly can't stand TW. I have it on my wife's phone because she likes the camera better than the AOSP. But it just seems like TW just tried to be too pretty and to me it didn't make me happy. Even though AOSP has its little bugs, I just like it better. There are no widgets that I'm OMG about really like I was with Sense, for instance their music player, calendar, clock, and Facebook for HTC sense app... of course I prefer sense 3.5 style widgets a little more than 4. So I just stick with MIUI because that was the AOSP that made me fall in love with AOSP. Used to have the Dinc and Dinc2 and it ran flawlessly on both. Just pure love.
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For some strange reason, I feel better using the Galaxy S III with the TouchWiz UX interface. I used it for a number of months with CM10, but when I was using that interface, I didn't feel like I was using a my Samsung Phone. Even though I had a Galaxy Nexus and loved my time with it (before i dropped it in the river...), the same interface on this particular phone just didn't feel "right". Like I was emulating a completely different version of android.
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This.
I loaded up AOKP and tried that out for awhile. It was lightning fast on pretty much everything, but I just didn't feel like I was using my GS3 that I had fallen in love with. I'm on the stock JB OTA with Kindacrap Mods 2.6 flashed. The small tweaks in there make the phone for me. Everything's a little bit faster and once I found out that I could make the home button faster (my biggest complaint since owning the phone) simply by disabling the S-Voice polling, just more love to be had.
Being able to set separate lock screen and homescreen wallpapers that don't move (used to love the movement, but not so much anymore) is great. S-Beam is awesome. The premium suite will (hopefully) be a wonderful tweak. Samsung and TouchWiz have come a long way since my first Android phone: the Captivate on AT&T.
To me it is not about speed at this point but stability. Top end devices today do not need to go any faster then when you take it out of the box. I still scratch my head when I see people over clocking their S3. This thing already runs faster then some laptops that people own. Also, can't prove anything is faster when overclocking except running a benchmark. Otherwise they all feel the same!
I love the AOSP experience and options but it still has bugs that are important to me on the S3 so I am forced to use TW. Luckily TW is not that bad on the S3 and works well. If an AOSP Rom was bug free I surely would be running it. And don't believe the hype when people tell you AOSP has no bugs. It can run stable but has bugs that prevent me from using it as a daily.
Running Pure's TW Rom right now it works great. Already has part of multi-window cooked in with the bar on the left and all your apps showing. Hopefully next release will actually have the multi window. He also said that he has the ink effect on the lockscreen for the next rls as well. He is always pushing the bar with new features so I am pretty content right now with TW.
CM10.1 kangs have been nothing but stable for me since I got my S3 a few weeks ago. I like the whole interface and experience; hated TW. Call me lucky but I'm 100% satisfied.
I've gone back and forth between AOSP and TW-based ROMS. Besides stability, I do enjoy the extra features that are on the stock framework.
I'm just curious to see how developers will utilize the source code into their ROMS, now that it's out.
I like AOSP if it works. I would easily be on cm10.1 if everything worked, but until then, I think I have to use my phone as a phone
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I like AOSP if it works. I would easily be on cm10.1 if everything worked, but until then, I think I have to use my phone as a phone
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Same here. I ran AOSP on my OG Epic and while I liked it for what our offered, constant struggles with features broken/ not working made me steer clear of it on GS3 until ALL phone functions work as well as they do on TW.
Hello there. Like many of you I love my S4 but want a more Google experience to my phone. A while so I posted a topic about how to improve your S4 without root to make it feel more like a stock android phone on the original Samsung rom. I loved the original Stock Samsung ROM but I wanted something different. Here is what I did to my phone to make it stock android.
I rooted my phone with motochopper following videos from wwjoshdew on YouTube. (Great channel with awesome helpful videos)
With root I improved some of the things that Samsung has going with the phone. Although Google makes the best... So I flashed a ROM.
I installed goo manager from the play store and then installed TWRP from goo. After this I created a backup if the Stock Samsung ROM and wiped the necessary files. I then flushed CyanogenMod 10.1 which is amazing.
Now to make the most of this ROM make sure to do a couple of things.
- install Nova launcher
- Reset the CPU and under clock
- optimize battery life
This will make the phone buttery smooth in everything that it does. I am running CM10.1 at 1.45ghz and getting battery for DAYS!!! I'm also using LMT launcher for Pie control which just adds to the phones new ROM. Play with the phone and add screenshots of the phone.
CyanogenMod 10.1 is a great alternative to the stock Samsung ROM that allows for the user to have a more Google experience. Its truly amazing and with its additions to the stock Android OS it is amazing!
Enjoy the ROM and enjoy using it!
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I have similar setup, the only difference is that I used a PAC-ROM instead of just Cyanogenmod. I can confirm that the performance is also buttery smooth. I haven't tried throttling down CPU clocks yet, but I'll give it a try and report back what I find on PAC-ROM
This is hardly "the Google experience" Its cyanogenmod... Granted its built from AOSP source, but its definitely far from stock android.
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This is hardly "the Google experience" Its cyanogenmod... Granted its built from AOSP source, but its definitely far from stock android.
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Is there a stock "GE" ROM out there - I've been hunting through the forums for some time - for a relative newbie the alphabet soup posts are tough to decrypt but I don't see any straight up GE roms?
Yes there's a couple. Pretty stable also. I'm running task aokp and its by far my favorite ROM. Dude knows his stuff.
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I think once CM 10.2 comes out with the new camera I'll be happy (assuming it lives up to they hype). The current CM camera is not especially good and a little unstable to boot. HDR doesn't work correctly either.
I greatly prefer the CM experience (and AOSP) to the stock TouchWiz one, mostly for reasons of aesthetics, but the AOSP and CM cameras are both way behind.
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Is there a stock "GE" ROM out there - I've been hunting through the forums for some time - for a relative newbie the alphabet soup posts are tough to decrypt but I don't see any straight up GE roms?
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Oh really? Youve been hunting for quite some time? Just opening up the dev section and just scrolling through (didnt even need to use search function) I find these:
4.2.2 GE:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2356276
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2357603
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2341376
4.3 leak of GE:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2349077
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2370205
Now normally I would say to search before creating a thread...but this thread wasnt really asking for anything...so ill just leave it at this
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Frogacuda said:
I think once CM 10.2 comes out with the new camera I'll be happy (assuming it lives up to they hype). The current CM camera is not especially good and a little unstable to boot. HDR doesn't work correctly either.
I greatly prefer the CM experience (and AOSP) to the stock TouchWiz one, mostly for reasons of aesthetics, but the AOSP and CM cameras are both way behind.
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My theory:
The new cm will only live up to the hype on nexus devices, why? We are still working with the same camera drivers/libs...all it really is, is just a new app fir the camera...but we still need good source ti work with from samsung
I could be wrong about the aboce but thats what I believe
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Oh really? Youve been hunting for quite some time? Just opening up the dev section and just scrolling through (didnt even need to use search function) I find these:
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I've seen those, and even installed a few. They're all modified versions of the stock GE in some way shape or form. I suppose the question should be, are there any unmodified Google Edition ROMs available for the S4?
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I've seen those, and even installed a few. They're all modified versions of the stock GE in some way shape or form. I suppose the question should be, are there any unmodified Google Edition ROMs available for the S4?
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The first link is pretty much unmodified...just debloated and deaodexed/zipaligned which is common for any rom as it enables easier use of mods if wanted...
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I'm rooted on stock with minor tweaks ie greenify,uninstall master to remove bloatware etc and I can average 5-5.5hrs of screen time on moderatetto heavy usage. What are you getting with your set up?
So with the probability that we'll be getting OTA 4.3 soon and the official 4.4 nightlies bound to start anytime, which are you most looking forward to?
I love the features of TouchWiz, but I've migrated to CyanogenMod since 4.1.2 feels really dated now.
Which features do you like about your respective favorite and why?
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So with the probability that we'll be getting OTA 4.3 soon and the official 4.4 nightlies bound to start anytime, which are you most looking forward to?
I love the features of TouchWiz, but I've migrated to CyanogenMod since 4.1.2 feels really dated now.
Which features do you like about your respective favorite and why?
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im exited about touchwiz, yes you can start calling me names now but i like the features on it, i dont care about that customization like in CM i want the features, like how i can wirelessly stream content to my tv without any additional hardware
by the way its a Sony tv not samsung :good:
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im exited about touchwiz, yes you can start calling me names now but i like the features on it, i dont care about that customization like in CM i want the features, like how i can wirelessly stream content to my tv without any additional hardware
by the way its a Sony tv not samsung :good:
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I'm not here to make fun. I think TW has as many benefits as AOSP does, just for different reasons. :highfive:
Just wanted to see what everyone else's thoughts were.
I am running CM 11 and I have enabled ART. I was excited about TW but as of right now I am just happy with how stupid fast this is.
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I have owned my s3 since release. I have ONLY ran AOSP since day 1. Haven't even tried TW hell I might like it.
Will defiantly move to 4.4 once there are cherry picks. I enjoy aosp so to answer your question 4.4!
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Questions go in Q&A and help section.
Please do not check the box "yes this is a question" as it puts a [Q] in the title and then those get moved to Q&A
I have edited your title to read [Discuss], although the whole AOSP vs., TW subject has been beaten to death
It is just a matter of preference and many of these threads can be found across XDA
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4.3 TW to be honest
Want to see if it boosts Quadrant benchmarks since the CM11 builds certainly haven't
Who cares if the quadrant score isn't higher? As others have said, 4.4 is insanely fast! I don't need a score to tell me that. 4.3 TW may have higher quadrant scores but it won't touch 4.4 AOSP for real life speed. Apps open instantaneously, lag is nonexistent... What are you looking for?
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4.3 TW to be honest
Want to see if it boosts Quadrant benchmarks since the CM11 builds certainly haven't
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Ofc TW will bench better since they "cheat" to boost scores in certain benchmarks.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7384/
Actually Ubuntu Touch is what i wan't the most
I like TW. I have been running carbon since goodness is MIA. I can say I look forward to a new TW. I miss some of the features.
Tough question. If we even see TW 4.3 anymore, I'd say that. I was on the cm11 builds for a few days, and like most aosp roms, it is plagued by camera quality and data issues. Data is fine in good service areas, but low/fringe areas struggle, then it murders your battery. I had to come back to TW for stability. I know cm11 is young, but even some aosp 4.2 and 4.3 roms give me similar results with the camera and data issues. Just my experience.
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Actually Ubuntu Touch is what i wan't the most
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As much as I'd love to use CM11, I can't stand the AOSP camera and that is why I use Touchwiz. CM11 looks so good though, and apparently has something called "ART" which apparently is good, so I will probably flash a CM11 rom to give it a try, but will end up reverting to Touchwiz like always because of the camera.
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As much as I'd love to use CM11, I can't stand the AOSP camera and that is why I use Touchwiz. CM11 looks so good though, and apparently has something called "ART" which apparently is good, so I will probably flash a CM11 rom to give it a try, but will end up reverting to Touchwiz like always because of the camera.
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Exactly like me. I don't even like the TW interface, but the camera and data issues always make me come back. I tried CM11 over the weekend, and it was really smooth. ART is pretty cool, too. Makes the apps launch almost instantly, but isn't compatible with all apps. Makes for a lot of troubleshooting and xda reading. What made me switch back to TW was when my girlfriend and I were literally right next to each other using our phones, she had 4G (Galaxy S4) and I had no data. It never came back until we moved to an area with a little better signal.
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joshua5683 said:
As much as I'd love to use CM11, I can't stand the AOSP camera and that is why I use Touchwiz. CM11 looks so good though, and apparently has something called "ART" which apparently is good, so I will probably flash a CM11 rom to give it a try, but will end up reverting to Touchwiz like always because of the camera.
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ART is not part of CM , its a experimental runtime environment that Google has inserted into 4.4 . At this point it's mainly experimental for developers. Many / most current apps don;t support it.
If you don;t like the way TouchWiz looks , you can run any other launcher on a TW ROm and have the best of both worlds, stability and all features working with a different UI appearance.
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ART is not part of CM , its a experimental runtime environment that Google has inserted into 4.4 . At this point it's mainly experimental for developers. Many / most current apps don;t support it.
If you don;t like the way TouchWiz looks , you can run any other launcher on a TW ROm and have the best of both worlds, stability and all features working with a different UI appearance.
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Just my .02 but the TW vs. AOSP was never just about appearance. It was more about the amount of "bloatware" on TW roms that some never use or see any need for. Most of the Samsung features and apps fall into the this category.
I just went back to a TW ROM due to way too many random reboots, shoddy data, and mediocre camera quality. It's a love hate relationship, because the only thing I like about TW is the data and camera, while the UI and buttery smoothness of AOSP is what I really enjoy. TW ROMs always lag for me. If only we could have both together...
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Just my .02 but the TW vs. AOSP was never just about appearance. It was more about the amount of "bloatware" on TW roms that some never use or see any need for. Most of the Samsung features and apps fall into the this category.
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Apps you don;t want are easily removed or frozen. They don;t hurt anything just sitting there anyway. The Custom TW ROMs have the useless items removed while retaining the good stuff like All Share and the IR Remote functions. They also add the options to install themes, lots of 4.3 and 4.4 features etc. That's why there's not a lot of excitement about 4.3 or 4.4, we already have most of it.
I am excited for both.
I really wish there was working multiboot for the d2vzw, though. When I'm traveling, I'd rather be on TW because I find battery life and camera quality are much better. Otherwise I'm on AOSP.