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Is HTC/ATT still developing for the Inspire?

I'm new to the inspire (just switched from Sprint and the Epic 4g) and was wondering if HTC/ATT was still doing development for the inspire or not? Can we expect any updates to the current version or are they pretty much done?
I know on the Epic they were still pushing ROM's occasionally.
Just wondering what the future might hold or if we are stuck with what we have (other then custom ROM's).
Thanks.
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jpeepers said:
I'm new to the inspire (just switched from Sprint and the Epic 4g) and was wondering if HTC/ATT was still doing development for the inspire or not? Can we expect any updates to the current version or are they pretty much done?
I know on the Epic they were still pushing ROM's occasionally.
Just wondering what the future might hold or if we are stuck with what we have (other then custom ROM's).
Thanks.
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Who cares, once your custom, you'll never want to go back :3

jpeepers said:
I'm new to the inspire (just switched from Sprint and the Epic 4g) and was wondering if HTC/ATT was still doing development for the inspire or not? Can we expect any updates to the current version or are they pretty much done?
I know on the Epic they were still pushing ROM's occasionally.
Just wondering what the future might hold or if we are stuck with what we have (other then custom ROM's).
Thanks.
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History would suggest that we've gotten everything we will get from ATT. HTC may continue to develop for the Ace, but it will most likely only be released for the DHD. (Desire HD)
Sent from my Inspire 4G using the power of the dark side

if AT&T is still selling this phone in 18 months then yes, per the alliance they made with Google, the Inspire will get Ice Cream Sandwich. At the Last Google I/O At&T was among the companies agreeing to this improved situation, vowing to bring their phones current.

gunnyman said:
if AT&T is still selling this phone in 18 months then yes, per the alliance they made with Google, the Inspire will get Ice Cream Sandwich. At the Last Google I/O At&T was among the companies agreeing to this improved situation, vowing to bring their phones current.
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That's dang good info sir! You gotta link to feast teh eyes upon?

Yes, I do remember AT&T being part of the group that made that commitment, but knowing AT&T after being with em for 10 years, I wouldn't hold em to it.
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Joshp406 said:
Who cares, once your custom, you'll never want to go back :3
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here's linky http://www.slashgear.com/guidelines...-by-google-for-android-at-google-io-10151174/

Joshp406 said:
Who cares, once your custom, you'll never want to go back :3
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Yeah, I've been trying to find a custom that I like but so far it seems that they all have small "quirks" of some kind or another. Believe it or not my stock is running very very good so I'm reluctant to change.
Was just curious if they would release another base ROM for the inspire. It appears everything new is based from other phones.
Thanks for the info.
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jpeepers said:
Yeah, I've been trying to find a custom that I like but so far it seems that they all have small "quirks" of some kind or another. Believe it or not my stock is running very very good so I'm reluctant to change.
Was just curious if they would release another base ROM for the inspire. It appears everything new is based from other phones.
Thanks for the info.
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That is the norm with US based phones. They get maybe one release from the carrier and the rest are ports from the euro version of the phone as they are supported longer. We have seen the only update from att that we are going to get.

jpeepers said:
Yeah, I've been trying to find a custom that I like but so far it seems that they all have small "quirks" of some kind or another. Believe it or not my stock is running very very good so I'm reluctant to change.
Was just curious if they would release another base ROM for the inspire. It appears everything new is based from other phones.
Thanks for the info.
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If you like the stock feel you will absolutely love Virtuous Unity. Info in my sig.

anit77 said:
If you like the stock feel you will absolutely love Virtuous Unity. Info in my sig.
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VU is not even close to being stock.

zelendel said:
VU is not even close to being stock.
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No, there's nothing stock about the rom itself. But it does have a clean stock feel to it. That and it's the most stable I've tried for daily driver use.

anit77 said:
If you like the stock feel you will absolutely love Virtuous Unity. Info in my sig.
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+1 ... I loved my stock rom, then I changed to the VU and now I'm love VU.

anit77 said:
If you like the stock feel you will absolutely love Virtuous Unity. Info in my sig.
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Actually it wasn't about look and feel but performance. Right now my stock (rooted) is running really well believe it or not. Great battery life, great signal, good GPS etc. It seems that most custom ROMs I looked into (based off different phone base) had issues of some sort that people were complaining about. Battery, FC's, GPS etc.
In all honesty I don't really like Sense so I would'nt mind a ROM that didn't have it. Some things I like are, ASOP lockscreen, Battery percent in notification bar, Launcher othere than sense.
Right now I'm using a battery widget and widget locker to change my lock screen. Also using Zeam launcher insted of Sense.
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If you want aosp features on a stock Rom then check out static nonsense. It's stock without Rosie.
Sent from my HTC Inspire 4G using XDA App

jpeepers said:
Actually it wasn't about look and feel but performance. Right now my stock (rooted) is running really well believe it or not. Great battery life, great signal, good GPS etc. It seems that most custom ROMs I looked into (based off different phone base) had issues of some sort that people were complaining about. Battery, FC's, GPS etc.
In all honesty I don't really like Sense so I would'nt mind a ROM that didn't have it. Some things I like are, ASOP lockscreen, Battery percent in notification bar, Launcher othere than sense.
Right now I'm using a battery widget and widget locker to change my lock screen. Also using Zeam launcher insted of Sense.
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Gingerbeast

You piqued my interest, actually it was Zel. I started thinking about what is out there, actively being developed, based on US Inspire roms. I took a look over in the Dev section and all I could come up with is ClearDroid.
I think you can still get roms from Pirate based on the ATT gingerbread release and Juicy's TELUS DHD is supposed to be the same hardware as the Inspire, but his ROM is based on the TELUS release.
I have used ClearDroid gingerbread. It's a great ROM and ClearD and his team tenaciously develop and support. It's a little vanilla, compared to some DHD or port based roms, but is better than the ATT approved ROM in every way. It is faster, more stable, prettier and better supported. I always go back to it when I've had my fill of the eye candy. I won't tell you it's the best ROM out there, everyone has different tastes, and we've got great devs doing amazing things with other bases, but you may want to try it before completely writing off custom roms.
It's just my opinion, and worth about as much as that old Pentium 2 in my closet, but i'm throwing it out there anyway.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using the power of the dark side

jpeepers said:
Actually it wasn't about look and feel but performance. Right now my stock (rooted) is running really well believe it or not. Great battery life, great signal, good GPS etc. It seems that most custom ROMs I looked into (based off different phone base) had issues of some sort that people were complaining about. Battery, FC's, GPS etc.
In all honesty I don't really like Sense so I would'nt mind a ROM that didn't have it. Some things I like are, ASOP lockscreen, Battery percent in notification bar, Launcher othere than sense.
Right now I'm using a battery widget and widget locker to change my lock screen. Also using Zeam launcher insted of Sense.
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That's the beautiful thing about Android and this site. You can try a variety of different flavors and combinations and always go back to where you started. You'll never know if you like something or not if you don't try it. Just do a nandroid and test the waters.

The Sense 3 DHD leak is pretty nice and would be a great upgrade for the Inspire but, alas, we'll probably never see an actual Inspire based on this build because AT&T has the final say. AT&T is dragging HTC down like an anchor tied to a sack full of toasters.

Are you disappointed with AOSP roms?

I don't know, There just doesn't seem much hype or effort going into the AOSP roms or the customization for them. I feel like it's a lost cause. I see sense being updated rather often and I dont see the hype over sense. This is legit T-Mobiles best phone. I just don't understand why there's lack of development for AOSP roms. Yes we have Cyanogenmod and we had Xboarder and Htcclay for a short term, which I feel hurt the sensation community. I just don't see much coming out. Which makes me want to move on (maybe trade up for a nexus s)
I'm not saying anyones work here wasnt good, I give you mucho props for developing and taking your time on this, it's more than i could say for myself that doesn't know anything about development.
Comment, Negative or Positive. I dont care. I'd like to hear what anyone or everyone thinks.
I like debates.
Thanks.

xamadeix said:
I don't know, There just doesn't seem much hype or effort going into the AOSP roms or the customization for them. I feel like it's a lost cause. I see sense being updated rather often and I dont see the hype over sense. This is legit T-Mobiles best phone. I just don't understand why there's lack of development for AOSP roms. Yes we have Cyanogenmod and we had Xboarder and Htcclay for a short term, which I feel hurt the sensation community. I just don't see much coming out. Which makes me want to move on (maybe trade up for a nexus s)
I'm not saying anyones work here wasnt good, I give you mucho props for developing and taking your time on this, it's more than i could say for myself that doesn't know anything about development.
Comment, Negative or Positive. I dont care. I'd like to hear what anyone or everyone thinks.
I like debates.
Thanks.
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I agree completely, and I have shared this same opinion multiple times already in this section. I am not used to AOSP/CM being so unpopular with the users, I don't even understand how CM's views are surpassed by a Sense ROM. Every other phone I had it would be the opposite, but here you guys prefer Sense only and give it more support, causing the Devs to pay more attention to it instead. I noticed when I 1st came here that Faux was developing, but he had no AOSP ROM for this phone, I said hmmm at first cause I was curious about the situation. I was hoping for a AOSP from Faux as I had on my MT4G, now I know other devs have AOSP, but the support for it isn't as intensive as in other phone sections IMO.

I have to agree, coming from an evo where it seems I had many many options of roms. this phone looks wise is everything I've wanted(the reason I obviously bought it). but I would take a nexus s if given the opportunity to be honest. I don't know what it is maybe due to the amaze being out? or the Sgs2? but I guess were third in the list fir t mobile devices now so not that popular anymore?
just my 2 cents.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda premium

I guess there's a lack of AOSP ROMs because the source hasn't been released yet.

aNYthing24 said:
I guess there's a lack of AOSP ROMs because the source hasn't been released yet.
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I think people mean Gingerbread ASOP ROMs which we have had the source for a year now.

same here... not impressed with any AOSP Roms... camera very bad... many FC issues and miui with battery drain issues...

Same here...i am really done...once the galaxy nexus come out i will get it and be done with it. I would have sworn this phone would have cm7 by now. I should have gotten the nexus s last year if not because it didn't have sd...but this time around i will just stick with the nexus. REALLY done with all these so called wannabe nexus.
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Yeah, it's quite disappointing. I was quite shocked tbh, coming from the Desire (which has ****loads of roms). Guess I should have done a bit more research before buying my Sensation XE, but then again I love it anyway, despite the number of AOSP roms
Maybe the Sensation just isn't appealing to the majority of devs out there? Or perhaps it's just a matter of time before the devs from older models move on to better phones (hopefully Sensation)...
Fortunately though the devs we do have are awesome, and I for one am quite fulfilled with my current cm7 rom

Mad?
Are you kidding me? They are the BEST! They dont drain your battery.

I switched from Verizon to T-Mobile in hopes that I would finally get a phone that gets updates. Granted, this phone does get updates - to Sense. But I am slightly disappointed after seeing so much movement on these GSM devices in the past. Now it seems like there's a lot of focus in the CDMA area. Go figure.
I'd much rather have a GSM/HSPA phone, and I do wish we had a fully functioning CM7 so we can have better ROMs - especially for what was supposed to be HTC's flagship phone.
Sent from my Sensation using Tapatalk

You sir haven't tried coredroid. Don't go bashing all Roms.
jjdoctor said:
same here... not impressed with any AOSP Roms... camera very bad... many FC issues and miui with battery drain issues...
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The only thing that is stopping me use AOSP roms are the terrible camera app they have. P.s CoreDroid really is disgusting to look at, I had it on my sensation for less than 5 mins before I downloaded a different rom. Overuse of colour and awful fonts really is not sleek, just tacky.

Yep. Thats right. AOSP roms are way better. the only thing people are wanting from the sense rom is the camera app i bet you.

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Yep. Thats right. AOSP roms are way better. the only thing people are wanting from the sense rom is the camera app i bet you.
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The camera and the beats audio. Aosp roms are nice to have but I just can't deal with all these bugs that are still there.hopefully the guys porting ics will bring a better name to aosp on the sensation
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Not really. I use this rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321556
with the Faux kernel. It's AOSP with Cyanogenmod Settings included, so it's basically CM. At this point in time, AOSP roms for the Sensation are about perfect, so there isn't much development needed. Now we're all just hoping for AOSP Android 4.0.
Also, I agree about the camera, it's the only thing I like about Sense. The AOSP camera sucks hard.

I'm definitely not disappointed. For me, CM7 is faster, simpler, more elegant and more useful than Sense in every way.
The camera is the ONLY thing that is better on Sense, but the CM7 camera has improved greatly and is without a doubt good enough.
Btw, I've been using CM7 as my daily driver since it was released on this phone (while occasionally trying out every single Sense rom available) and have had zero issues with it since like alpha 6.. so what bugs are you all talking about??
There is also nothing on any Sense rom that can even compare to the amount of options you're able to customize with Cyanogenmod Settings. The status bar tweaks and notification bar widget tweaks alone are simply amazing.

i love sense... i buyed a sensation instead of a sgs2 because of sense why should i change this?

Thing is, If I wanted a stock android look I would have bought a nasty plastic samsung. AOSP may be fast, but twithout exception, they are pig ugle and dull. Sense makes a difference. HTC and sense is a winning combo, mainly because of sense

tinker2000 said:
Thing is, If I wanted a stock android look I would have bought a nasty plastic samsung. AOSP may be fast, but twithout exception, they are pig ugle and dull. Sense makes a difference. HTC and sense is a winning combo, mainly because of sense
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Not saying you're wrong or I disagree, but most people are saying that Sense is what's holding HTC back. I understand both points, but I do agree that Sense is in need of an overhaul - and while Sense may be nicer than Gingerbread, Ice Cream's UI looks great.

tinker2000 said:
..AOSP may be fast, but twithout exception, they are pig ugle and dull..
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I don't think this is all that ugly..

Sensation, advantages and disadvantages, solving some issues

I bought and to be fully honest I am not happy with it! I think I will unroot it and try to sell it. Reasons:
ON stock ROM:
1. touchscreen issues (yes solved but let's be honest it's not what you would expect from the phone)
2. working slow (yes comparing to other android phones it does!!)
3. battery life is ridiculous ( I know Anker battery, yes people posting that they get 48 hours, yeah sure, I got 8 hours and investing extra money and keeping extra battery is not convenient, not with that price that you pay for phone)
4. At lest few more or less annoying bugs which happen to most or all of us which shouldn't with that kind of device (like you cannot charge it via USB!!! it simply drain more battery then it is charging!!!)
Custom ROM
1. Not much improvement with most sense ROM-s in terms of speed and battery life, they still share most of Stock ROM bugs
2. Aosp ROM-s do not exist at the moment or have so many bugs (ex MIUI) that they are not worth attention.
So rooting it is more or less useless unless you really need screenshots etc.
Comparing to Wildfire:
1. Battery life 36-48 h on Wildfire (CM7, 12-16 h on STOCK ROM) vs 8-12 h on sensation (any ROM on stock battery)
2. Speed definitely better as I wasn't able to use skype or pdf books smoothly on wildfire because it was so slow.
Comparing to Desire
1. Better battery life on Desire (both HD and S have longer life on sock battery)
2. They work FASTER because stock rom is better and custom ROM-s are better!!! Ridiculous!!!
Summary
For me the most important is battery life then being able to use Skype and PDF-s so I am slightly more happy about it then about Wildfire, but I think Wildfire S might be a better choice. However Deisre is far superior to Sensation in any aspect that I consider important which is battery, speed (pdf, skype), choice of custom ROM-s. If you consider same aspects important, save yourself some money and don't buy sensation. It's full of bugs, battery is a joke and aosp ROM-s are not developed properly.
After good experience with few different HTC phones this one is a disaster!!!
But maybe it's just me!!!

leyus said:
I bought and to be fully honest I am not happy with it! I think I will unroot it and try to sell it. Reasons:
ON stock ROM:
1. touchscreen issues (yes solved but let's be honest it's not what you would expect from the phone)
2. working slow (yes comparing to other android phones it does!!)
3. battery life is ridiculous ( I know Anker battery, yes people posting that they get 48 hours, yeah sure, I got 8 hours and investing extra money and keeping extra battery is not convenient, not with that price that you pay for phone)
4. At lest few more or less annoying bugs which happen to most or all of us which shouldn't with that kind of device (like you cannot charge it via USB!!! it simply drain more battery then it is charging!!!)
Custom ROM
1. Not much improvement with most sense ROM-s in terms of speed and battery life, they still share most of Stock ROM bugs
2. Aosp ROM-s do not exist at the moment or have so many bugs (ex MIUI) that they are not worth attention.
So rooting it is more or less useless unless you really need screenshots etc.
Comparing to Wildfire:
1. Battery life 36-48 h on Wildfire (CM7, 12-16 h on STOCK ROM) vs 8-12 h on sensation (any ROM on stock battery)
2. Speed definitely better as I wasn't able to use skype or pdf books smoothly on wildfire because it was so slow.
Comparing to Desire
1. Better battery life on Desire (both HD and S have longer life on sock battery)
2. They work FASTER because stock rom is better and custom ROM-s are better!!! Ridiculous!!!
Summary
For me the most important is battery life then being able to use Skype and PDF-s so I am slightly more happy about it then about Wildfire, but I think Wildfire S might be a better choice. However Deisre is far superior to Sensation in any aspect that I consider important which is battery, speed (pdf, skype), choice of custom ROM-s. If you consider same aspects important, save yourself some money and don't buy sensation. It's full of bugs, battery is a joke and aosp ROM-s are not developed properly.
After good experience with few different HTC phones this one is a disaster!!!
But maybe it's just me!!!
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I just got this 2 days ago, as a replacement for the Vibrant, so I have not had time to really play with it yet. Either way, i think its a step up from the Vibrant.
Upon rooting my Vibrant, I could tether, and there were a ton of custom roms that vastly improved the use of the phone.
So are you saying that since on sensation we can tether without the need to root, and the custom Roms are not an improvment over stock, there is no need?
---not flaming, just asking as i have not had a chance to really look into the custom roms. I was assuming that there were plenty of custom roms and they offered many features over stock...; am I mistaken?? again, Im just asking as I was going to root this weekend and throw a rom on there. I have not really had a chance to look at what the custom roms offer over stock. Any ideas?
thanks

I also received a sensation to replace the defective vibrant. It appears that roms for sensation are based on Sense. The development for CM rom is at early stage unlike vibrant. So I am not sure whether rooting will provide additional benefit at this stage with the sense based roms. Could anybody tell me why I should root this phone and install sense based roms.

Hello my friends,
i am so happy to buy the Sensation. Ok its have little problems but whitch phone have it not??
Befor i install a Custom Rom it´s work fine and fast but this was not enough for me (my girlfriend was contented with the stock rom) and with the new Rom it´s going more faster and more batterylife on day.
And are you interessted to play little bit with the Sensation you get a beautiful Smartphone.
Buy a bigger Battery, install a new Custom Rom. Finish.
Yours sincerely
BS

Stock ROM was rather crappy, but I heard (haven't tested) the OTA's bring a lot of improvements both speed- and batterywise.
When the stock ROM is replaced, I think it's an awesome phone. I would choose it any day over a SGS II for sure.

kboater said:
I just got this 2 days ago, as a replacement for the Vibrant, so I have not had time to really play with it yet. Either way, i think its a step up from the Vibrant.
Upon rooting my Vibrant, I could tether, and there were a ton of custom roms that vastly improved the use of the phone.
So are you saying that since on sensation we can tether without the need to root, and the custom Roms are not an improvment over stock, there is no need?
---not flaming, just asking as i have not had a chance to really look into the custom roms. I was assuming that there were plenty of custom roms and they offered many features over stock...; am I mistaken?? again, Im just asking as I was going to root this weekend and throw a rom on there. I have not really had a chance to look at what the custom roms offer over stock. Any ideas?
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Custom ROM always offer some kind of improvement, but from my viewpoint with available for Sensation those aspects are insignificant, and I don't care about thetering so did not tried it or don't consider it main function for me.
If you think you will get such a nice choice of highly developed ROM-s as for Vibrant then forget about it. There is no serious AOSP ROM if that is what you asking about. If you not sens hater ( I am ) then yes there are decent choices.

MartijnGP said:
Stock ROM was rather crappy, but I heard (haven't tested) the OTA's bring a lot of improvements both speed- and batterywise.
When the stock ROM is replaced, I think it's an awesome phone. I would choose it any day over a SGS II for sure.
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I will try insertcoin now, Coredroid was ok but only improvement was in terms of speed. MIUI is a joke with all those bugs. CM7 very early development, again if someone looks for AOSP there is no good option.

[email protected]$oLiD said:
Buy a bigger Battery, install a new Custom Rom. Finish.
Yours sincerely
BS
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Will do but after 3 ROM-s (stock, coredroid, MIUI) I am disappointed with results, and I don't think you should start using your phone from buying battery it is just not right, but simply don't have other option with Sensation.

csd181 said:
I also received a sensation to replace the defective vibrant. It appears that roms for sensation are based on Sense. The development for CM rom is at early stage unlike vibrant. So I am not sure whether rooting will provide additional benefit at this stage with the sense based roms. Could anybody tell me why I should root this phone and install sense based roms.
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Unless you need some kind of root only working app like tethering there is no point in doing it I think so don't root it. Sense sucks on both stock and custom ROM, as I already rooted mine I will try 2-3 more ROM-s but I think unrooting and selling this phone is best choice for me

leyus said:
I will try insertcoin now, Coredroid was ok but only improvement was in terms of speed. MIUI is a joke with all those bugs. CM7 very early development, again if someone looks for AOSP there is no good option.
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No one bothered with CM7 or AOSP as it was clear ICS would be around very soon when the Sensation was released into the wild.
And still, HyperSensation and SelfKANG are very decent ROMs. InsertCoin is good too buy I didn't like Sense and there were a very versions very power-inefficient back when I switched away from it. Should be better by now, baad is a great chef.

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And still, HyperSensation and SelfKANG are very decent ROMs.
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OK will check them and install one of them fallowing your advice. In your footnote you still got info you are on Insertcoin so i was thinking that is ROM that you are so happy about As I said Stock sucks, Coredroid - better but not much improvement, MIUI - disaster.

leyus said:
Custom ROM always offer some kind of improvement, but from my viewpoint with available for Sensation those aspects are insignificant, and I don't care about thetering so did not tried it or don't consider it main function for me.
If you think you will get such a nice choice of highly developed ROM-s as for Vibrant then forget about it. There is no serious AOSP ROM if that is what you asking about. If you not sens hater ( I am ) then yes there are decent choices.
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How long did you own a vibrant? Because you should be aware that one the phone has been out about a year longer than the sensation which means its better known... And they have a much more functional ics (so far) also due to this... But if you'd been around very long you would know that we waited forever for froyo and never got cm6 support. And barely got a real functional cm7 in about... August? Maybe slightly before but pretty sure that's when they finally got gps working fairly well. Either way it takes time to get to know the phone and such. I get that it seems like there's very little development currently compared to the vibrant but the vibrant has been around much longer...
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lorddart said:
How long did you own a vibrant? Because you should be aware that one the phone has been out about a year longer than the sensation which means its better known... And they have a much more functional ics (so far) also due to this... But if you'd been around very long you would know that we waited forever for froyo and never got cm6 support. And barely got a real functional cm7 in about... August? Maybe slightly before but pretty sure that's when they finally got gps working fairly well. Either way it takes time to get to know the phone and such. I get that it seems like there's very little development currently compared to the vibrant but the vibrant has been around much longer...
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SO what is your point? That sensation is here not long enough to have decent rom available. Sry but I don't agree. Or maybe that justifies number of bugs in stock rom and phone itself as well? Or maybe in few months time battery will also start working better? From my viewpoint android phone should be good at stock and even better with custom rom and that is my experience with all HTC devices so far just not with this one. It is terrible with stock rom and not much better with custom rom.
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leyus said:
SO what is your point? That sensation is here not long enough to have decent rom available. Sry but I don't agree. Or maybe that justifies number of bugs in stock rom and phone itself as well? Or maybe in few months time battery will also start working better? From my viewpoint android phone should be good at stock and even better with custom rom and that is my experience with all HTC devices so far just not with this one. It is terrible with stock rom and not much better with custom rom.
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What bugs are you on about? Clearly you have a defective device.
& quit bashing Sense & the lack of AOSP roms. If you want one so bad then go learn how to code & cook one up yourself. We respect the devs & their decision on what to code & build. What you see us what you get. I'm just saying.
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leyus said:
SO what is your point? That sensation is here not long enough to have decent rom available. Sry but I don't agree. Or maybe that justifies number of bugs in stock rom and phone itself as well? Or maybe in few months time battery will also start working better? From my viewpoint android phone should be good at stock and even better with custom rom and that is my experience with all HTC devices so far just not with this one. It is terrible with stock rom and not much better with custom rom.
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Point being 5 months after vibrant Release people had similar ***** fits... With decent reason. But stock vibrant blew compared to stock sensation. So I don't have a clue what you are getting at.
Yeah considering this came stock gingerbread it'd seem that we should be able to get better rom support but i'm happy enough... You could easily sell the sensation and purchase a vibrant if you really think it's a better device but try odin it back to original stock and use the device and tell me it's better than the sensation...
I agree that cell phones had a lot of issues considering the phones cost upwards of $500 retail its a disappointment we can't get something 100% stable and reliable but this is pretty much any android phone not particular problem of htc or the sensation....
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csd181 said:
Could anybody tell me why I should root this phone and install sense based roms.
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Well, rooting will allow you to check for presence of Carrier IQ. (no, I have not yet rooted.)

mzmo said:
What bugs are you on about? Clearly you have a defective device.
& quit bashing Sense & the lack of AOSP roms. If you want one so bad then go learn how to code & cook one up yourself. We respect the devs & their decision on what to code & build. What you see us what you get. I'm just saying.
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What bugs? Can't you read? I clearly mention at least few and guess what Holmes there is a sticky about fixing touchscreen because it is such a common thing in those phones I can assure you that every single thing I mention here is not unique to my device, I recommend you try search option once in a while. About roms I hate sense and that is it, there is no serious alternative as far as I know unless coding one on my own is considered an akternative then yeach what a great mobile I have..... not. And its not about bashing custom rom programmers I respect their effort and admire there work but it is simple matter of fact that so far all the roms I tested where not half as good as for other HTC devices.
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Point being 5 months after vibrant Release people had similar ***** fits... With decent reason. But stock vibrant blew compared to stock sensation. So I don't have a clue what you are getting at.
Yeah considering this came stock gingerbread it'd seem that we should be able to get better rom support but i'm happy enough... You could easily sell the sensation and purchase a vibrant if you really think it's a better device but try odin it back to original stock and use the device and tell me it's better than the sensation...
I agree that cell phones had a lot of issues considering the phones cost upwards of $500 retail its a disappointment we can't get something 100% stable and reliable but this is pretty much any android phone not particular problem of htc or the sensation....
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I compared sensation with desire and wildfire and yes I am seriously considering going back to desire and selling it. Will.try 2 or 3 more roms before doing that and maybe another battery but for this price I can easily get something more stable with similar speed better battery life and lots of cash left in my pocket for example desire s or desire HD. There are movies on YouTube that show desire is actually working faster then sensation.
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Lol. You CANNOT compare the wildfire to the sensation....
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I compared sensation with desire and wildfire and yes I am seriously considering going back to desire and selling it. Will.try 2 or 3 more roms before doing that and maybe another battery but for this price I can easily get something more stable with similar speed better battery life and lots of cash left in my pocket for example desire s or desire HD. There are movies on YouTube that show desire is actually working faster then sensation.
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Go for it then for sure. I have found the sensation a decent device and trust it will get support or decent resell value to the avg. User. And minus the speaker being weak compared to the vibrant im happy enough if I got another vibrant cheap enough I might go back till something better on the market but this is much faster and smoother than my vibrant
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My ROM experience

People are always posting up new threads asking for advice on this ROM vs. that ROM. Well, I haven't tried them all, but I've tried quite a few of the more popular ones recently. I'm not going to pick these ROMS apart. If you want more info about what I liked or didn't like about a particular ROM I've tried, go ahead and ask.
I got my Sensation back in January. I used the stock Gingerbread for a couple of months. Then got frustrated when the T-Mobile ICS update got delayed and have been on a flashing frenzy ever since.
I've been trying a lot of ROMs lately. I started with ARHD, then went to Elegancia, then Hypernonsense, then back to Elegancia, then Sense 4 Elegancia, then back to 3.6, then Virtuous Inquisition, then Opensensation (CM9), and back to Elegancia again. I've also tried Sebastion, faux, and bricked kernels - I prefer bricked best.
I honestly don't a see a performance difference between Sense, stripped Sense, or AOSP ROMs. I have System Tuner Pro and always monitor memory usage. I thought that the stripped and AOSP ROMs would have gobs of free memory available, but they just don't. They're no better or worse. I also was compelled to try those ROMs to improve battery life. Again, the experience didn't match the hype.
It all comes down to personal preference. Each ROM has its own glitches. But from my experience, full Sense 3.6 ROMs are the most functional and most stable. I loved the Sense 4.0 ROM I tried, except that Sense crashed on me like 3 times a day having to pull the battery each time. For me, nothing beats the Sense widgets. I live in the email and calendar widgets for work and the music widget in the car. No other widgets come close.
I think I'm gonna quit screwing around with it for a while. I am very happy with the Elegancia Sense 3.6 ROM / Bricked kernal combo. It's pretty much already modded/themed the I way I would do it. I can just flash it and go. I will try the Sense 4.0 version again when it's more mature. I loved it, I just can't have my phone crashing on me constantly.
I still want to try MIUI and will probably try CM9 again when it's official. I really like some of the home screen setups people have been able to pull off with their AOSP ROMs. But I think the widgets will always pull me back to a full Sense ROM. The only widgets that can compete, you have to pay for - and they're still not as good. Also, the AOSP camera blows compared to the Sense camera. In the end, it's all about what's functional for you.
In conclusion, try a few, try a bunch... don't get lost in the hunt for better battery life and more performance, because - 1) those 2 things don't go together... & 2) those 2 things are largely the same across all ROMS whether you're full Sense, stripped-Sense, or AOSP. Just find what you like and enjoy!

SO wutZ da best roms to use?
Just joking, but it's too bad some people are serious.

Its all about your liking that's it otherwise there is not a rom whit better battery life than any others
-Nuff Said.
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Great post, couldn't agree more.
Love Sense 4.0 but it just isn't mature enough

reficuliu said:
Great post, couldn't agree more.
Love Sense 4.0 but it just isn't mature enough
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I've been using Ordroid (Sense4) for a week or so now and I've found it quiet stable to be honest. I haven't experienced any crashes.
The batterylife was in 5.0.X about 17 hours (2 hours of screen turned on).
V6.0.0; I can't say if there are anything wrong just yet since its been out for about 2 days only and I've used it for 1 day. but the first batterycycle was about 21 hours with 2h 5m screen turned on. Only thing I could complain about with Ordroid is the partially working BT, I can't say anything about the Wifi-tethering issue because I am not using it.
Hmm, well I guess that was that.

The partially working Bluetooth issue is across all Sense 4 ROMs. It has to do with the fact that Sense 4 was ported from another device with different BT hardware - so the Sense drivers aren't fully compatible.
With the release of T-Mobile's official RUU, it may be time try Sense 4 again and see if some of the previous issues I experienced are fixed now. But BT will probably always only be partially working due to the driver issue.

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The partially working Bluetooth issue is across all Sense 4 ROMs. It has to do with the fact that Sense 4 was ported from another device with different BT hardware - so the Sense drivers aren't fully compatible.
With the release of T-Mobile's official RUU, it may be time try Sense 4 again and see if some of the previous issues I experienced are fixed now. But BT will probably always only be partially working due to the driver issue.
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Ah okey I didn't know that, thanks for sharing

I like my sence less rom. Its just personal preference! That's what makes it fun! Options! Gotta love options!
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I'd love to know whether any of these custom ICS ROMs is better than the stock ICS ROM. I get that they are all (Sense or no Sense) pretty much the same when it comes to performance and battery, but how do they compare to the stock one? Will I get any benefits from switching from the stock ICS to one of these?
Thanks!

great post!

I use elegancia ics 4.3 sence 4.0 is good so far it has a few glitches like if you try to take a picture while recording a video, the camera crashes or if you press the camera button to take several pictures at once it crashes! But other than that is good!
P.D. that Rom is updated like every other day but I still don't know how to update it
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teomor said:
I'd love to know whether any of these custom ICS ROMs is better than the stock ICS ROM. I get that they are all (Sense or no Sense) pretty much the same when it comes to performance and battery, but how do they compare to the stock one? Will I get any benefits from switching from the stock ICS to one of these?
Thanks!
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Well I've always found that the custom roms out-compete the stock ones repeatedly. You get a much better battery life, minimal bloatware and more power. Use android revolution hd 6+ and you'll see the differences
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Yes I agree! I have much better battery life and over all better experience!
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I tried Elegancia Sense 4 again last night. I thought it was time to give it another go since there have a few builds released since the last time. Unfortunately, nothing has changed. Whatever issues I'm having are buried deeper than what gets changed from build to build.
My phone has crashed on my twice in the last 5 hours. It's unfortunate. I really like Sense 4 - I think it's cleaner & smoother than 3.6. The camera is better and faster than 3.6. But if your phone crashes on you while changing menus or doesn't wake up and you have to pull the battery all the time, then it's useless.
Does anyone else have these issues with Sense 4? Maybe another Sense 4 ROM is better? I have not yet tried another Sense 4 ROM because it seems they all use the same base. Maybe I should try another and see if it works better...

The new InsertCoin ROM Sense 4.0 is out now, looks very stable, only FM Radio not working. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1546731

I just flashed OrDroid Sense 4. I'll give that one a shot. It has a different base - the new leaked Ville RUU instead of the One S. The Ville and Sensation share the same processor, so maybe that will do the trick.
EDIT: That one's no good for me either. It has its own set of glitches I'm not willing to live with.
Now trying Steve's new TMOUS Elegancia with Bricked kernel.

Any tradeoffs for non Sense ROMs? I know the camera app is better on HTC's but other than that? Is there a Torch app similar to the stock one? Etc..

...and back on Elegancia 3.7.6. lol
I am running the updated TMOUS firmware now, tho. along with the other radio fix for TMOUS users. This might be the best combo I've run yet. But I'm still anxious for a fully functional Sense 4 ROM.
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Any tradeoffs for non Sense ROMs? I know the camera app is better on HTC's but other than that? Is there a Torch app similar to the stock one? Etc..
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There is another Torch app that is pretty much the same. The ROMs I've tried all have it included if they don't have the HTC app.

Kancur0 said:
P.D. that Rom is updated like every other day but I still don't know how to update it
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Just flash the new one on top. No super wipe required all your data and apps are safe

teomor said:
I'd love to know whether any of these custom ICS ROMs is better than the stock ICS ROM. I get that they are all (Sense or no Sense) pretty much the same when it comes to performance and battery, but how do they compare to the stock one? Will I get any benefits from switching from the stock ICS to one of these?
Thanks!
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For me, I love the overclocking of custom roms/kernels. Stock Sensation is 1.2ghz. My custom rom Sensation is 1.7ghz. Man is it speedy. I took the time to read countless posts and spent a ton of time learning how to mod my Sensation. No way am I going back to stock carrier rom.

Compare Sense to AOSP Camera Performance

For those who have recently switched from Sense to AOSP (CM10 esp)
can you answer these questions and or post examples
How is the photo quality itself between them?
How is the speed of launching the camera?
How is the speed of the photo taking itself?
How is the close-up photo performance?
Thanks!
I am strict AOSP kinda guy but bought this phone because i loved the hardware. I am now on trickdroid but dreaming of AOSP. I take lots of photos and really leverage the amazing camera on this phone. I can only really switch to AOSP if the camera performance is at least comparable.
Looking forward to the responses, thanks!

All of the items you mentioned are worse in CM. If you ran CM on a previous phone, the camera performance is roughly similar. It is the one and only trade off to dumping Sense, but I feel it's worth it.

I was wondering this..
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I'd personally stick with Sense if the camera is an issue for you. The AOSP camera application is no comparison to the Sense camera app. That, and no WiFi Calling are the only reasons I'm on Trickdroid and not CM10.
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I agree, this is the main reason I stuck with sense for so long, but I finally switched over to CM.
Max camera resolution is only 5mp, not 8. Camera speed is fast, but not as fast as sense. You can still take pictures during a video, which is nice. But I HATE the AOSP camera. It is ugly, and 1/4 the screen is taken up by a grey box for (apparently) no reason other than to house the shutter button and options. Sense had a great approach by making the camera full screen and only having the buttons without any unnecessary space taken up.
One option would be to try out the MIUI Sense base. Personally I'm not big on MIUI, but it has the sense camera so maybe you'd be interested.

AOSP camera resolution is standard size, so smaller than phone screen, so it couldn't be displayed full screen anyways.

el_smurfo said:
AOSP camera resolution is standard size, so smaller than phone screen, so it couldn't be displayed full screen anyways.
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Didn't think about that, thanks. At least there's a reason...but I still don't like it!
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theNOOBuser said:
I'd personally stick with Sense if the camera is an issue for you. The AOSP camera application is no comparison to the Sense camera app. That, and no WiFi Calling are the only reasons I'm on Trickdroid and not CM10.
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Same here, is there a multi boot or dual boot that fits the One s?

Is there a way just to port over the sense camera into your CM rom?

xxvtcxx said:
Is there a way just to port over the sense camera into your CM rom?
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Will never happen.

This is really depressing. I was offered a great deal on these phones and read a little about them and how great the dual core and camera and things were and seen a boatload of development going on here so I jumped on the deal. Now as I am waiting for my One S phones to arrive I am doing a lot of research and all I am reading is major disappointments lol. I thought for sure I would be able to flash AOKP and get rid of sense and all would be fine but then that takes away the best part of this phone. I should have learned my lesson after the Motorola Milestone XT720. What I have learned about phones with locked bootloaders is that the dev's work extra hard and there is always hope on a complete fantastic ROM but the truth of it is it never happens, out of the few years at the XT720 forum there is still not one fully functional, complete ROM, and people are still left hoping. It is really depressing lol. I have a Galaxy Nexus now so I assume my HTC One S with AOKP will be just like the GNex camera and all huh? I suppose after having my GNex I will not like anything to do with Sense and I would hate to flash an AOSP ROM and ruin the camera.

LibertyMonger said:
This is really depressing. I was offered a great deal on these phones and read a little about them and how great the dual core and camera and things were and seen a boatload of development going on here so I jumped on the deal. Now as I am waiting for my One S phones to arrive I am doing a lot of research and all I am reading is major disappointments lol. I thought for sure I would be able to flash AOKP and get rid of sense and all would be fine but then that takes away the best part of this phone. I should have learned my lesson after the Motorola Milestone XT720. What I have learned about phones with locked bootloaders is that the dev's work extra hard and there is always hope on a complete fantastic ROM but the truth of it is it never happens, out of the few years at the XT720 forum there is still not one fully functional, complete ROM, and people are still left hoping. It is really depressing lol. I have a Galaxy Nexus now so I assume my HTC One S with AOKP will be just like the GNex camera and all huh? I suppose after having my GNex I will not like anything to do with Sense and I would hate to flash an AOSP ROM and ruin the camera.
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The camera has nothing to do with the locked bootloader. This phone is as good as any top of the line phone available right now and there are many 100% functional ROMs and kernels to choose from. You can flash the Venom ROM and remove nearly all appearance of Sense while keeping the camera. The AOSP camera is perfectly adequate for most needs, it's just not as fast as the stock.