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Newest/Easiest way to root while on ics?

I see so many threads about rooting while on jellybean. What do i need to do to root on ics? The plan is to root and then use a custom jb rom. Thanks for your help.

Any help with my n00b post would be great.

Look for the debugfs method in the Dev section. That works on ICS but not jb as loopholes are closed on jb.
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dman918 said:
I see so many threads about rooting while on jellybean. What do i need to do to root on ics? The plan is to root and then use a custom jb rom. Thanks for your help.
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You can't use a JB rom custom or stock while you have ICS bootloader and updating to JB may remove root ( mine didn't ) and will certainly remove a custom recovery ( CWM or Twrp ). You have to unlock to install custom rom or recovery so if you are sure you wish JB custom rom why not update to JB and start from there?
Unlock, custom recovery for JB ( Twrp is my choice ), custom rom flashed with Twrp. I have not flashed any custom roms for the TF300 that weren't already rooted.
Good Luck!:good:

Yep, I am probably going to just go ahead and upgrade. I thought when I read that there was an advantage to being on ICS (for custom ROM purposes) but it doesn't seem to be the case. So I will get fully updated and then go from there.
Thanks!

dman918 said:
Yep, I am probably going to just go ahead and upgrade. I thought when I read that there was an advantage to being on ICS (for custom ROM purposes) but it doesn't seem to be the case. So I will get fully updated and then go from there.
Thanks!
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The possible advantages are NVFlash, cm9, cm10, etc. At this time no CM, AOSP, AOKP, Paranoid Android, and so on for the JB bootloader. Everything ( rom ) is based on the stock kernel. It is being worked on but not ready for release yet. The dreaded i/o issue on JB and probably others.
If I were in your shoes I'd stay on ICS for now and wait a while for things to sort out. On ICS I'd run CM10 or Hydro for ICS. Those are just my feelings.
Take your time and look around a bit more if you have any doubts.
If you are ready then by all means go for it!
:good:Good Luck!

Thanks for all your help. I did go ahead and make the jump to JB. Currently on CleanROM but have no idea which of the "big 3" I should run. I suppose I will have to try them all and see. Wish there was a good pro/con list of each ROM that I could reference.

dman918 said:
Thanks for all your help. I did go ahead and make the jump to JB. Currently on CleanROM but have no idea which of the "big 3" I should run. I suppose I will have to try them all and see. Wish there was a good pro/con list of each ROM that I could reference.
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Great welcome to the club!:good:

dman918 said:
Thanks for all your help. I did go ahead and make the jump to JB. Currently on CleanROM but have no idea which of the "big 3" I should run. I suppose I will have to try them all and see. Wish there was a good pro/con list of each ROM that I could reference.
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The biggest con of running JB is that Adobe has removed support for flash from JB in anticipation of forcing everyone to go use HTML5. You also cannot use the NVFlash method of backing up some crucial files as a safety net (the developers claim that using NVFlash makes your device brickproof).
I am still waiting for the kinks in JB to be worked out before I switch. I'm on ICS bootloader still and I can run a JB custom ROM (Baked Blackbean) just fine, so I can have my cake and eat it too. I can try out the JB changes without making a full commitment.
Just my two cents.

browser not responding!!

I have 2 TF700's in my family. They both have the problem.
The stock browser and alot of third party browsers keep giving me this error "browser not responding" and then gives me the option to "wait" or "close".
Is this common among the TF700's?
Is there a solution?

S3owner said:
I have 2 TF700's in my family. They both have the problem.
The stock browser and alot of third party browsers keep giving me this error "browser not responding" and then gives me the option to "wait" or "close".
Is this common among the TF700's?
Is there a solution?
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I am guessing you are pure stalk? then yes it seems to be a stock Rom problem. You can usually click "wait" and it will come back but not always. The only solution I know is flashing back to ICS and rooting, or unlocking(which voids ASUS warranty), flash a custom recovery, and flash CleanRom. cyanogen, or a different custom rom.
Tylor

Are you saying that many others with this tablet that are running stock asus software have this problem?
it's hard to believe since this tablet got such rave reviews.
BTW what's the difference between "unlocking" and "rooting"?

S3owner said:
Are you saying that many others with this tablet that are running stock asus software have this problem?
it's hard to believe since this tablet got such rave reviews.
BTW what's the difference between "unlocking" and "rooting"?
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Not all people seem to report this problem but I never had success with the stock rom. And yes quite a few others have similar problem but not all. I have heard the newest version of Chrome has fixed lots of lag browsing wise, try it if you have not already. When the tf700 first came out it was the first of its kind, HD screen, Keyboard Dock, Decent sized CPU and GPU. But being so introduced new problems.
Rooting gives you administer privileges and it will make you be able to install browser2ram which increases the speed of your browser tremendously.
Unlocking is unlocking the bootloader, which voids the asus warranty, and allows you to install a custom recovery, which then allows you to install other roms. Custom roms like Cromi and Cyanogen come prerooted. Custom roms fix many issues but also create some new ones.
Tylor
Sent from my ASUS Transformer TF700T Infinity Pad Using Tapatalk HD
Rom: Cyanogen Nightlies 10.1 or CleanRom 3.4.4 - Depends on the mood .

S3owner said:
I have 2 TF700's in my family. They both have the problem.
The stock browser and alot of third party browsers keep giving me this error "browser not responding" and then gives me the option to "wait" or "close".
Is this common among the TF700's?
Is there a solution?
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I do not have this issue with Boat Browser.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk HD

Tylorw1 said:
Not all people seem to report this problem but I never had success with the stock rom. And yes quite a few others have similar problem but not all. I have heard the newest version of Chrome has fixed lots of lag browsing wise, try it if you have not already. When the tf700 first came out it was the first of its kind, HD screen, Keyboard Dock, Decent sized CPU and GPU. But being so introduced new problems.
Rooting gives you administer privileges and it will make you be able to install browser2ram which increases the speed of your browser tremendously.
Unlocking is unlocking the bootloader, which voids the asus warranty, and allows you to install a custom recovery, which then allows you to install other roms. Custom roms like Cromi and Cyanogen come prerooted. Custom roms fix many issues but also create some new ones.
Tylor
Sent from my ASUS Transformer TF700T Infinity Pad Using Tapatalk HD
Rom: Cyanogen Nightlies 10.1 or CleanRom 3.4.4 - Depends on the mood .
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Your right, Chrome does work better, but Chrome doesn't support plugins like ( ie. flash) which makes some content not work.
I'm guessing rooting on the tablets are different than rooting on the smartphones since you need to install custom recovery in order to root a smartphone.
So what issues do the custom roms bring to the table?; I hope the advantages are worth the trouble.

at ljg600
I kind of liked the stock browser, it was working fine at the beginning, it started happening after a certain update I think.
Did you have this issue with the stock browser as well?

S3owner said:
Your right, Chrome does work better, but Chrome doesn't support plugins like ( ie. flash) which makes some content not work.
I'm guessing rooting on the tablets are different than rooting on the smartphones since you need to install custom recovery in order to root a smartphone.
So what issues do the custom roms bring to the table?; I hope the advantages are worth the trouble.
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Rooting does not require unlocking your boot loader. It just requires you to flash stock ice cream sandwich, root, then install ota rootkeeper, once you have that done you can upgrade to the latest android and restore the root. You cannot root Jelly bean directly. You dont need a custom recovery to root ICS, but you cannot root Jelly Bean directly .
Custom roms bring few issues to the table as long as you follow the procedures. You must first use ASUS' unlock tool, then install a recovery via fastboot, and you should be good. However if you consider unlocking I would look through all the posts of people who have messed up their devices so you dont make the same mistake. As long as you have the 10.4.4.25 bootloader and a jellybean compatible recovery you wont have problems. That seems to be the main issue when people brick their tf700's. People installing jelly bean when they do not have compatible recoveries / boot loaders.
Tylor
Sent from my ASUS Transformer TF700T Infinity Pad Using Tapatalk HD
Rom: Cyanogen Nightlies 10.1 or CleanRom 3.4.4 - Depends on the mood .

S3owner said:
Your right, Chrome does work better, but Chrome doesn't support plugins like ( ie. flash) which makes some content not work.
I'm guessing rooting on the tablets are different than rooting on the smartphones since you need to install custom recovery in order to root a smartphone.
So what issues do the custom roms bring to the table?; I hope the advantages are worth the trouble.
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The only custom rom WILL NOT give you any trouble but 100% faster and smoother is Clean Rom (ppl called it CROMI) currently at version 3.4.4. This is stock rom with supercharge installed. It will be night and day between stock and CROMI. You would be glad and kick yourself in the bud that you didn't use this rom sooner! and your stock browser once again will be the best browser.

Tylorw1 said:
Rooting does not require unlocking your boot loader. It just requires you to flash stock ice cream sandwich, root, then install ota rootkeeper, once you have that done you can upgrade to the latest android and restore the root. You cannot root Jelly bean directly. You dont need a custom recovery to root ICS, but you cannot root Jelly Bean directly .
Custom roms bring few issues to the table as long as you follow the procedures. You must first use ASUS' unlock tool, then install a recovery via fastboot, and you should be good. However if you consider unlocking I would look through all the posts of people who have messed up their devices so you dont make the same mistake. As long as you have the 10.4.4.25 bootloader and a jellybean compatible recovery you wont have problems. That seems to be the main issue when people brick their tf700's. People installing jelly bean when they do not have compatible recoveries / boot loaders.
Tylor
Sent from my ASUS Transformer TF700T Infinity Pad Using Tapatalk HD
Rom: Cyanogen Nightlies 10.1 or CleanRom 3.4.4 - Depends on the mood .
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That's weird I rooted my JB Galaxy S3 directly, why can't the TF700 JB be like the GS3 JB....?

at buhohitr
yeah, but is it worth losing all asus support and warranty?
can they really tell I've unlocked it, even lets say for example if the screen stops working?

S3owner said:
That's weird I rooted my JB Galaxy S3 directly, why can't the TF700 JB be like the GS3 JB....?
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You can't compare phone S3 with Asus tablet. They have different hardward bootloder etc..There is NO ODIN for tf700. In S3 you need to Odin insecure bootloader in order to root and flash custom recovery. There is no loop hole in tf700 while you're on JB (Asus patched), but there is in ICS. So if you just want root, you need to downgrade back to ICS. If you're on JB the only way you can root or flash custom recovery is to unlock your device, this allow you to use fastboot function in JB bootloader to flash custom recovery (TWRP,CWM), then use custom recovery to flash root(SuperSU) or pre-rooted custom rom.

S3owner said:
at buhohitr
yeah, but is it worth losing all asus support and warranty?
can they really tell I've unlocked it, even lets say for example if the screen stops working?
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That is a very personal decision. It was worth it to me. Instead of getting annoyed by my TF700 a dozen times a day and enjoying a warranty I may never need, I now have a tablet that runs like a dream!!
And the support the dev and others on the CROMI thread provide puts Asus to shame - easily.
When you use the Asus unlock tool it phones home to Asus servers. From then on they know that your specific tablet is unlocked. Also says so on the boot screen. And no way to reverse it, btw.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk HD

buhohitr said:
You can't compare phone S3 with Asus tablet. They have different hardward bootloder etc..There is NO ODIN for tf700. In S3 you need to Odin insecure bootloader in order to root and flash custom recovery. There is no loop hole in tf700 while you're on JB (Asus patched), but there is in ICS. So if you just want root, you need to downgrade back to ICS. If you're on JB the only way you can root or flash custom recovery is to unlock your device, this allow you to use fastboot function in JB bootloader to flash custom recovery (TWRP,CWM), then use custom recovery to flash root(SuperSU) or pre-rooted custom rom.
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I guess rooting doesn't void the warranty, but don't I need root to flash back to ICS?
What are the advantages of JB versus ICS anyway?

berndblb said:
That is a very personal decision. It was worth it to me. Instead of getting annoyed by my TF700 a dozen times a day and enjoying a warranty I may never need, I now have a tablet that runs like a dream!!
And the support the dev and others on the CROMI thread provide puts Asus to shame - easily.
When you use the Asus unlock tool it phones home to Asus servers. From then on they know that your specific tablet is unlocked. Also says so on the boot screen. And no way to reverse it, btw.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk HD
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Isn't anybody else dissappointed in Asus since their software seems to be crap?
what are the advantages of CROMI (CleanRom) anyway?

S3owner said:
Isn't anybody else dissappointed in Asus since their software seems to be crap?
what are the advantages of CROMI (CleanRom) anyway?
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Personally I dont know any advantage on ICS over JB as I never put ICS on my tablet. Cromi is the stock asus rom, broken apart, then rebuilt. It contains the same layout and some asus stock apps however since it has different internals and all bloatware is gone is makes most if not all lag disappear. Yes we are disappointed but it is easily solved after you put a different Rom on it. Also the support for Cromi is MUCH better tehn any support ASUS could provide. To be mad at ASUS does no good. The only option if you are that disappointed it to send them back or modify the tablet yourself. Cromi and cyanogen put the stock rom to shame, and both have better support.
Tylor
PS: and yes to root you must revert back to ICS.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer TF700T Infinity Pad Using Tapatalk HD
Rom: Cyanogen Nightlies 10.1 or CleanRom 3.4.4 - Depends on the mood .

S3owner said:
I guess rooting doesn't void the warranty, but don't I need root to flash back to ICS?
What are the advantages of JB versus ICS anyway?
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No, you don't need root to downgrade to ICS. You are going from one official Asus firmware release to another. That's perfectly fine.
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S3owner said:
Isn't anybody else dissappointed in Asus since their software seems to be crap?
what are the advantages of CROMI (CleanRom) anyway?
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You can always wait and hope for the JB 4.2 release. The TF300 got it and a lot of owners seem to report much better performance and less lag. Compared to the stock 4.1 of course....
I doubt stock 4.2 is going to be as good as CROMI is already
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk HD

S3owner said:
I guess rooting doesn't void the warranty, but don't I need root to flash back to ICS?
What are the advantages of JB versus ICS anyway?
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For me and most of us here, yes unlocking is well worth it.
and NO, you don't need root to flash back to ICS, just download Asus full firmware ICS .30 version, unzip it then copy it to the root of your MICROsdcard and it will flash back to ICS (some cases, you need to rename the file to EP201_768_SDUPDATE.zip then boot into stock recovery in order to work) . Once you're back on ICS, debugfs root tool will help you to achieve root.

Thanks for the education guys.
Can CROMI ( CleanRom) play flash content, though?
What are the other advantages, other than being smooooge?
Is CROMI made specifically for the TF700?

S3owner said:
Thanks for the education guys.
Can CROMI ( CleanRom) play flash content, though?
What are the other advantages, other than being smooooge?
Is CROMI made specifically for the TF700?
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During the installation of Cromi, sbdags put the flashplayer into the setup, so yes flash is supported on Cromi, by default unless you choose not to install it. Cromi is made for other devices but Cromi in the tf700 part of the forums is made specifically for the tf700. The speed is the main advantage, also it is pre rooted, and the support if you have a problem is great.
Tylor
Sent from my ASUS Transformer TF700T Infinity Pad Using Tapatalk HD
Rom: Cyanogen Nightlies 10.1 or CleanRom 3.4.4 - Depends on the mood .

[Q] TWRP Compatibility?

Just saw a new twrp 2.5.0.0 posted in the development section. Does anyone know if using it will cause any issues since I have ths sbdags patched bootloader with 2.4.4.0. I certainly don't want to brick. I'm currently running CROMi-X v4.2 (and loving it). Thanks in advance!
tvig

i don't think so
tvig0r0us said:
Just saw a new twrp 2.5.0.0 posted in the development section. Does anyone know if using it will cause any issues since I have ths sbdags patched bootloader with 2.4.4.4. I certainly don't want to brick. I'm currently running CROMi-X v4.2 (and loving it). Thanks in advance!
tvig
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shouldn't i patched bootloader same as you but have stock rom, flashed fine and it works perfectly

tvig0r0us said:
Just saw a new twrp 2.5.0.0 posted in the development section. Does anyone know if using it will cause any issues since I have ths sbdags patched bootloader with 2.4.4.4. I certainly don't want to brick. I'm currently running CROMi-X v4.2 (and loving it). Thanks in advance!
tvig
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I confirmed that 2.5.0.0 should work fine with old or new bootloader.

Thanks
Thanks for getting back to me on this. I went ahead and used GooMgr to install the new TWRP. Booted into and made new system backup. Everything works like a charm. Now I'm really looking forward to CROMi-X with 10.6.1.14 full rom.
Cheers
tvig

tvig0r0us said:
Thanks for getting back to me on this. I went ahead and used GooMgr to install the new TWRP. Booted into and made new system backup. Everything works like a charm. Now I'm really looking forward to CROMi-X with 10.6.1.14 full rom.
Cheers
tvig
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Yes I can confirm that it works fine
4.3 coming along. Just going through the pains of rebuilding apks with mods and all the bugs that need to be worked out.

sbdags said:
4.3 coming along. Just going through the pains of rebuilding apks with mods and all the bugs that need to be worked out.
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AWESOME :highfive:

Finally docked!!
WOOT Just got my tf700 dock and I'm all set for the new rom when it comes out!! Life's good. This device is shaping up to be one of the best devices I've ever owned... aside from my killer gaming desktop of course. As far as mobile devices though, this one is the cat's meow!
Cheers

Any roms for this device?

This is an awesome device but why aren't there any roms out for this device I see one but that it..would like to see some development progress for this device please

any updates? i cant find any, but its still a bit tough to navigate this board for me

marcviado said:
This is an awesome device but why aren't there any roms out for this device I see one but that it..would like to see some development progress for this device please
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User's from the mini/ultra/maxx all use this forum since it's all basically the same phone... If you're on the Ultra there is one custom ROM available in the development section as they belong...the only ROM I've seen is the PAC ROM, provides much customization and lots of features... Our ultra and I believe the other two models do not have an unlocked boot loader so you can't flash a custom ROM or kernel without that...if you have the Dev version of the maxx then you can go ahead and unlock your boot loader and enjoy the Rom(s)
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ahjee said:
User's from the mini/ultra/maxx all use this forum since it's all basically the same phone... If you're on the Ultra there is one custom ROM available in the development section as they belong...the only ROM I've seen is the PAC ROM, provides much customization and lots of features... Our ultra and I believe the other two models do not have an unlocked boot loader so you can't flash a custom ROM or kernel without that...if you have the Dev version of the maxx then you can go ahead and unlock your boot loader and enjoy the Rom(s)
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i have safestrap installed, so i could flash ROM's, but im not interested in the very initial stages of ROM's...but am i right where i could flash it?
im in the middle of the OTA update right now anyways..so bye root for now...

Well the ota can be rooted and I have safe strap as well but without an unlocked boot loader you cannot flash Roms or kernel's... Having safestrap does not mean you can flash away, the boot loader is what matter's buddy. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news...but if you want root after the ota check out the development section... Jcase already has taken care of that
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ahjee said:
Well the ota can be rooted and I have safe strap as well but without an unlocked boot loader you cannot flash Roms or kernel's... Having safestrap does not mean you can flash away, the boot loader is what matter's buddy. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news...but if you want root after the ota check out the development section... Jcase already has taken care of that
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im new to android flashing, and bootloaders and all of that, but im only going off of my past experiences with my droid 4.
what i thought: a locked bootloader meant no custom kernels. as long as i have a custom recovery such as safestrap, i could flash ROM's, which is why there are ROM slots. i had eclipse ROM on my droid 4 even though that had a locked bootloader.
where am i getting confused? did the rooting process take care of the bootloader? or did ss bypass that?

tortoracer said:
im new to android flashing, and bootloaders and all of that, but im only going off of my past experiences with my droid 4.
what i thought: a locked bootloader meant no custom kernels. as long as i have a custom recovery such as safestrap, i could flash ROM's, which is why there are ROM slots. i had eclipse ROM on my droid 4 even though that had a locked bootloader.
where am i getting confused? did the rooting process take care of the bootloader? or did ss bypass that?
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You're right, you can flash roms with a locked bootloader. However you cannot flash a kernel (boot image) with a locked bootloader. So far though, no stock based roms that I know of for this phone. I don't know if that's because safestrap is still in beta or what.

hawkswind1 said:
You're right, you can flash roms with a locked bootloader. However you cannot flash a kernel (boot image) with a locked bootloader. So far though, no stock based roms that I know of for this phone. I don't know if that's because safestrap is still in beta or what.
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whats a non "stock based" ROM? i have only had phones with a locked bootloader, so im a bit confused there. what would be different? would it be seen, or would that only be how the phone does stuff internally?

marcviado said:
This is an awesome device but why aren't there any roms out for this device I see one but that it..would like to see some development progress for this device please
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There aren't custom ROMs because there isn't a need for one, IMO.
This is the cleanest, most stable, coolest OS I've ever experienced anywhere.
I can't imagine a custom ROM out there that I would prefer.

redddog said:
There aren't custom ROMs because there isn't a need for one, IMO.
This is the cleanest, most stable, coolest OS I've ever experienced anywhere.
I can't imagine a custom ROM out there that I would prefer.
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as with the ROM i had with my droid 4, the ROM isnt definitely something completely different from the factory. it could be de-bloated, include apps that work well with the device, disable/remove apps that nobody uses. tidy up the framework of the stock ROM.
i would love a pre-cleaned ROM, wifi tether, or really just a deodexed ROM at this point.

tortoracer said:
im new to android flashing, and bootloaders and all of that, but im only going off of my past experiences with my droid 4.
what i thought: a locked bootloader meant no custom kernels. as long as i have a custom recovery such as safestrap, i could flash ROM's, which is why there are ROM slots. i had eclipse ROM on my droid 4 even though that had a locked bootloader.
where am i getting confused? did the rooting process take care of the bootloader? or did ss bypass that?
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The droid 4 used a method called kexec which highjacked the boot process and allowed a custom bootloader to run instead of the phones locked bootloader. Hashcode has stated that kexec may never work for the new moto line but there's always hoping. This is why I just ordered the developers edition.
Sent from my Droid Razr Maxx on JB 4.3 kexec

nukeruss said:
The droid 4 used a method called kexec which highjacked the boot process and allowed a custom bootloader to run instead of the phones locked bootloader. Hashcode has stated that kexec may never work for the new moto line but there's always hoping. This is why I just ordered the developers edition.
Sent from my Droid Razr Maxx on JB 4.3 kexec
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i thought without an unlocked bootloader you could not install custom roms, i knew you couldn't with kernels but i thought no roms either... i am mistaken i assume by the response of the others, or can you not do either? Either way, if you can't use a custom kernel then most custom roms will not work anyhow

ahjee said:
i thought without an unlocked bootloader you could not install custom roms, i knew you couldn't with kernels but i thought no roms either... i am mistaken i assume by the response of the others, or can you not do either? Either way, if you can't use a custom kernel then most custom roms will not work anyhow
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Incorrect. The Droid X had a locked bootloader, but it had a fairly large dev community. No custom kernels, but there was a good amount of ROM's available.

sfreemanoh said:
Incorrect. The Droid X had a locked bootloader, but it had a fairly large dev community. No custom kernels, but there was a good amount of ROM's available.
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That would mean roms either came with no kernel baked in or they used to stock kernel then. I never had a phone without the boot loader being unlockable that being said how the devs and community spoke it came off as without it being that way no ROM was flashable but it was likely due to that most Roms come with a kernel baked in which is usually not stock. Anyway, thanks for correcting and informing me. Having a locked boot loader is new to me.
So I assume if I can manage to remove the kernel from the ROM zip I could flash the PAC ROM in our development section?
Sent from Ahjee's phone which is likely better than your lesser phone that doesn't have as many processors and can't run games as smoothly as this beast of a phone does stock

ahjee said:
That would mean roms either came with no kernel baked in or they used to stock kernel then. I never had a phone without the boot loader being unlockable that being said how the devs and community spoke it came off as without it being that way no ROM was flashable but it was likely due to that most Roms come with a kernel baked in which is usually not stock. Anyway, thanks for correcting and informing me. Having a locked boot loader is new to me.
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I believe (at least on the DX) flashing just didn't touch the kernels at all, so we were always running the stock kernel. But I'm not a dev, so don't quote me.

On the droid x and RAZR (prior to kexec) all ROMs were built using the stock kernel. The doid x had an official cm build using the stock kernel. Using the stock kernel for custom ROMs like cm makes it much more difficult to get everything going smooth because the kernel has been optimized to work with the stock ROM which may be a couple versions of android behind.
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Look at this post from the nook color thread. Unlocked boot loader with awesome devas equals a device that never dies. The nook color is currently on 4.3 and will probably get 4.4 before long.
That's right. Big ups to Cicadaman for that first Froyo port, "Nookie Froyo", which was invaluable for helping get that first CM7 (gingerbread) build booting (like months and months before GB showed up officially in BN's bastardized android, I might add!) Dalingrin joined in soon after and we and a few others got it polished together.... God, this was what, late 2010 or early 2011. It's hard to believe Android didn't even have even basic tablet support for soft buttons... requiring Tablet Tweaks... Oh, how time flies... :silly: ...and the nook color is still kickin'...
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nukeruss said:
On the droid x and RAZR (prior to kexec) all ROMs were built using the stock kernel. The doid x had an official cm build using the stock kernel. Using the stock kernel for custom ROMs like cm makes it much more difficult to get everything going smooth because the kernel has been optimized to work with the stock ROM which may be a couple versions of android behind.
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---------- Post added at 08:31 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:19 PM ----------
Look at this post from the nook color thread. Unlocked boot loader with awesome devas equals a device that never dies. The nook color is currently on 4.3 and will probably get 4.4 before long.
That's right. Big ups to Cicadaman for that first Froyo port, "Nookie Froyo", which was invaluable for helping get that first CM7 (gingerbread) build booting (like months and months before GB showed up officially in BN's bastardized android, I might add!) Dalingrin joined in soon after and we and a few others got it polished together.... God, this was what, late 2010 or early 2011. It's hard to believe Android didn't even have even basic tablet support for soft buttons... requiring Tablet Tweaks... Oh, how time flies... :silly: ...and the nook color is still kickin'...
Sent from my Droid Razr Maxx on JB 4.3 kexec
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sorry if it is a dumb question, but what exactly is a kernel? a ROM is like the operating system i assume, but..?

tortoracer said:
sorry if it is a dumb question, but what exactly is a kernel? a ROM is like the operating system i assume, but..?
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not a stupid question dude, there's a lot going on with these phones and it takes to get educated and even more to be properly educated haha...things i think i know, i don't as you can tell lolol but the kernel is the engine so to speak, it's what makes the ROM or OS run how it does...the kernel has a bigger affect on battery life than the rom itself, well in my opinion but it's really a combination of the two together.
The kernel is what controls the CPU and GPU frequencies and whatnot

Ultra/Maxx/Mini
You guys say they're basically the same phone so everyone uses one forum, so can we install ROMs made for the other Droid devices?
My guess is probably not, so WHY are they not separated- silliest thing they could have done- I had to track this forum down over a week after I thought XDA just didn't support the Droid Maxx, and still don't understand what's going on.
I also have the same question as the OP: How can there not be a full root process/massive ROM list already for the Maxx with such a big community and such a popular phone line?
We're still waiting on a proper root
That said, anyone have any fun alternatives until then? Favorite/not well-known launchers or other themes?
PS Anyone have an Aviate Launcher invite left?
Thanks!

Vonsk said:
You guys say they're basically the same phone so everyone uses one forum, so can we install ROMs made for the other Droid devices?
My guess is probably not, so WHY are they not separated- silliest thing they could have done- I had to track this forum down over a week after I thought XDA just didn't support the Droid Maxx, and still don't understand what's going on.
I also have the same question as the OP: How can there not be a full root process/massive ROM list already for the Maxx with such a big community and such a popular phone line?
We're still waiting on a proper root
That said, anyone have any fun alternatives until then? Favorite/not well-known launchers or other themes?
PS Anyone have an Aviate Launcher invite left?
Thanks!
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Off the top of my head, the kernel is still signed by moto and cannot be modified.
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[Q] Rom advise please

Hi Guys,
I have just brought a TF700, and I have set up 3 user profiles, but it is very unstable even after i have disabled all of the unused apps.
From what I have been reading it would appear my best option is to put a custom rom on it.
Now i have achieved this kind of thing in the past as I put Android on a HTC HD2 many moons ago.
I currently have a HTC One and i love the OS on that which is 4.3, so i was wondering if anyone could point me in the direction of a 4.3 Rom that is fairly close to what i have on the HTC One for my TF700.
Thanks in advance

You didn't say which rom you put on your HTC
CM 10.2 emulates JB 4.3, I believe Paranoid and OMNI ROM also have 4.3 versions, but most of the devs seem to have moved on to KitKat (CM11), but it still seems to be somewhat buggy and slow at this point.
You find the threads in the development section

berndblb said:
You didn't say which rom you put on your HTC
CM 10.2 emulates JB 4.3, I believe Paranoid and OMNI ROM also have 4.3 versions, but most of the devs seem to have moved on to KitKat (CM11), but it still seems to be somewhat buggy and slow at this point.
You find the threads in the development section
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Thanks for coming back.
I haven't changed anything on my HTC One at moment because I am more than happy with how it is performing.
I will take a look, but once again thanks.

I have been looking at various threads, but I am still a bit undecided on which way to go.
Anyone else that has wanted to update to 4.3 have any tips or advise for me?
I wouldnt mind eventually going down the 4.4 route, but as I have only just got the tablet - I would firstly like to flash it to something more stable than it currently is.
Many Thanks

What really could help to speed up your TF700t is a factory restart.
For me it was really helping a lot .... even if i am right now "only" on rooted stock FW.
Try this as well.

mr_cg said:
What really could help to speed up your TF700t is a factory restart.
For me it was really helping a lot .... even if i am right now "only" on rooted stock FW.
Try this as well.
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I have only just brought it, and it was back to factory default, but I did it agin before puting all my apps that I wanted on.
And it was very slow and unstable then, but I then disabled all of the preinstalled apps that I didnt want to use, and it is better, but because I have heard that 4.3 does use less memory I still think it would be worth a try.

IndieAce said:
I have been looking at various threads, but I am still a bit undecided on which way to go.
Anyone else that has wanted to update to 4.3 have any tips or advise for me?
I wouldnt mind eventually going down the 4.4 route, but as I have only just got the tablet - I would firstly like to flash it to something more stable than it currently is.
Many Thanks
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I am not sure why you think 4.3 is so much better than 4.2.1. AFAIK that was not a major update or improvement....
If you are looking for a fast and totally stable rom for this tablet, go for CROMi-X! It's based on the Asus firmware 4.2.1 for this tablet, so everything is optimized for THIS device. CM roms are generic. They run a on a multitude of devices - that's why you have more bugs and conflicts

berndblb said:
I am not sure why you think 4.3 is so much better than 4.2.1. AFAIK that was not a major update or improvement....
If you are looking for a fast and totally stable rom for this tablet, go for CROMi-X! It's based on the Asus firmware 4.2.1 for this tablet, so everything is optimized for THIS device. CM roms are generic. They run a on a multitude of devices - that's why you have more bugs and conflicts
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I was under the impression that 4.3 used less memory?

IndieAce said:
I was under the impression that 4.3 used less memory?
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Not that I'm aware of. It was a pretty minor upgrade. Kit Kat 4.4 offers far more interesting features.
Plenty of google results out there:
http://www.geek.com/android/quick-look-android-4-3-vs-android-4-2-2-on-the-2012-nexus-7-1563398/

sbdags said:
Not that I'm aware of. It was a pretty minor upgrade. Kit Kat 4.4 offers far more interesting features.
Plenty of google results out there:
http://www.geek.com/android/quick-look-android-4-3-vs-android-4-2-2-on-the-2012-nexus-7-1563398/
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Thats fair enough.
I have to admit I like the look of the 4.3 more, but decided to upgrade to the CROMi-X one, and then wait for the 4.4 - which I did last night and I am very impressed - it is loads smoother.
So Thanks for your advise.

IndieAce said:
Thats fair enough.
I have to admit I like the look of the 4.3 more, but decided to upgrade to the CROMi-X one, and then wait for the 4.4 - which I did last night and I am very impressed - it is loads smoother.
So Thanks for your advise.
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You are welcome. Hope you like it.

IndieAce said:
Thats fair enough.
I have to admit I like the look of the 4.3 more, but decided to upgrade to the CROMi-X one, and then wait for the 4.4 - which I did last night and I am very impressed - it is loads smoother.
So Thanks for your advise.
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Good choice! And I KNOW you'll like it!

berndblb said:
Good choice! And I KNOW you'll like it!
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I thought that you are running CM 10.2...

LetMeKnow said:
I thought that you are running CM 10.2...
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Nahhh - only tried it as ROM2SD. And it's still sleeping on some of my sd cards.
I was not impressed. CM didn't add anything but eye candy (I didn't care for) and I think by now CROMi-X in conjunction with Xposed modules (if you care for those and the performance hit they come with) gives you way more options to customize this tablet than CM.... not even mentioning your tweaks!

berndblb said:
Nahhh - only tried it as ROM2SD. And it's still sleeping on some of my sd cards.
I was not impressed. CM didn't add anything but eye candy (I didn't care for) and I think by now CROMi-X in conjunction with Xposed modules (if you care for those and the performance hit they come with) gives you way more options to customize this tablet than CM.... not even mentioning your tweaks!
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I am happy with Cromi for now. I may try some new roms to test them out in the future when I have time..

LetMeKnow said:
I am happy with Cromi for now. I may try some new roms to test them out in the future when I have time..
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Yeah - and that will be like: Never ??? LOL
I ordered the TF701 yesterday and once I got it set up as my daily driver, I'm prepared to test the hell out of this tablet. Should be fun to have a tablet just to play with (and nvflash blobs safely squared away)

berndblb said:
Yeah - and that will be like: Never ??? LOL
I ordered the TF701 yesterday and once I got it set up as my daily driver, I'm prepared to test the hell out of this tablet. Should be fun to have a tablet just to play with (and nvflash blobs safely squared away)
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The tf701 looks very good with spec but the I/O does not seem to improve.... Maybe, I need to order one too...haha..:laugh:
Nvflash blob? I like Jtag better and hope that I don't go that route...

i have tf700 with CleanRom 3.4, but now i want to taste something new... 4.4 it goes slowly and i'm triying to guess which one i want to flash cromi-xenogenesis / comi-x / clenrom 3.5 until i wait for a fluid 4.4...
can someone get this dubt?

TheDrgizzmo said:
i have tf700 with CleanRom 3.4, but now i want to taste something new... 4.4 it goes slowly and i'm triying to guess which one i want to flash cromi-xenogenesis / comi-x / clenrom 3.5 until i wait for a fluid 4.4...
can someone get this dubt?
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CROMi-X is just the nickname for CROMi-Xenogenesis (who wants to write that all the time???). CROMi 3.5 would be just a minor step up from what yo got now...
Latest and greatest version of CROMi-X is 5.2.4. But you are on an outdated bootloader and no doubt an old recovery.
So head over to the CROMi-X thread, grab the bootloader/TWRP package sbdags provided in the OP and download the rom (dl both to your microSD)
Boot into TWRP and do a Factory Wipe - that will wipe your apps, but not your data (but you got everything backed up anyway, right????)
Flash the bootloader/TWRP package and reboot
Boot back into TWRP and flash the ROM

berndblb said:
CROMi-X is just the nickname for CROMi-Xenogenesis (who wants to write that all the time???). CROMi 3.5 would be just a minor step up from what yo got now...
Latest and greatest version of CROMi-X is 5.2.4. But you are on an outdated bootloader and no doubt an old recovery.
So head over to the CROMi-X thread, grab the bootloader/TWRP package sbdags provided in the OP and download the rom (dl both to your microSD)
Boot into TWRP and do a Factory Wipe - that will wipe your apps, but not your data (but you got everything backed up anyway, right????)
Flash the bootloader/TWRP package and reboot
Boot back into TWRP and flash the ROM
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i have 10.6.1.14.4 bootloader and TWRP 2.6.3.0 and rom Cromi-X 5.2.4 with ET + fsync off + data2sd, it goes fluid thanks