This is an awesome device but why aren't there any roms out for this device I see one but that it..would like to see some development progress for this device please
any updates? i cant find any, but its still a bit tough to navigate this board for me
marcviado said:
This is an awesome device but why aren't there any roms out for this device I see one but that it..would like to see some development progress for this device please
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User's from the mini/ultra/maxx all use this forum since it's all basically the same phone... If you're on the Ultra there is one custom ROM available in the development section as they belong...the only ROM I've seen is the PAC ROM, provides much customization and lots of features... Our ultra and I believe the other two models do not have an unlocked boot loader so you can't flash a custom ROM or kernel without that...if you have the Dev version of the maxx then you can go ahead and unlock your boot loader and enjoy the Rom(s)
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ahjee said:
User's from the mini/ultra/maxx all use this forum since it's all basically the same phone... If you're on the Ultra there is one custom ROM available in the development section as they belong...the only ROM I've seen is the PAC ROM, provides much customization and lots of features... Our ultra and I believe the other two models do not have an unlocked boot loader so you can't flash a custom ROM or kernel without that...if you have the Dev version of the maxx then you can go ahead and unlock your boot loader and enjoy the Rom(s)
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i have safestrap installed, so i could flash ROM's, but im not interested in the very initial stages of ROM's...but am i right where i could flash it?
im in the middle of the OTA update right now anyways..so bye root for now...
Well the ota can be rooted and I have safe strap as well but without an unlocked boot loader you cannot flash Roms or kernel's... Having safestrap does not mean you can flash away, the boot loader is what matter's buddy. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news...but if you want root after the ota check out the development section... Jcase already has taken care of that
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ahjee said:
Well the ota can be rooted and I have safe strap as well but without an unlocked boot loader you cannot flash Roms or kernel's... Having safestrap does not mean you can flash away, the boot loader is what matter's buddy. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news...but if you want root after the ota check out the development section... Jcase already has taken care of that
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im new to android flashing, and bootloaders and all of that, but im only going off of my past experiences with my droid 4.
what i thought: a locked bootloader meant no custom kernels. as long as i have a custom recovery such as safestrap, i could flash ROM's, which is why there are ROM slots. i had eclipse ROM on my droid 4 even though that had a locked bootloader.
where am i getting confused? did the rooting process take care of the bootloader? or did ss bypass that?
tortoracer said:
im new to android flashing, and bootloaders and all of that, but im only going off of my past experiences with my droid 4.
what i thought: a locked bootloader meant no custom kernels. as long as i have a custom recovery such as safestrap, i could flash ROM's, which is why there are ROM slots. i had eclipse ROM on my droid 4 even though that had a locked bootloader.
where am i getting confused? did the rooting process take care of the bootloader? or did ss bypass that?
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You're right, you can flash roms with a locked bootloader. However you cannot flash a kernel (boot image) with a locked bootloader. So far though, no stock based roms that I know of for this phone. I don't know if that's because safestrap is still in beta or what.
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You're right, you can flash roms with a locked bootloader. However you cannot flash a kernel (boot image) with a locked bootloader. So far though, no stock based roms that I know of for this phone. I don't know if that's because safestrap is still in beta or what.
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whats a non "stock based" ROM? i have only had phones with a locked bootloader, so im a bit confused there. what would be different? would it be seen, or would that only be how the phone does stuff internally?
marcviado said:
This is an awesome device but why aren't there any roms out for this device I see one but that it..would like to see some development progress for this device please
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There aren't custom ROMs because there isn't a need for one, IMO.
This is the cleanest, most stable, coolest OS I've ever experienced anywhere.
I can't imagine a custom ROM out there that I would prefer.
redddog said:
There aren't custom ROMs because there isn't a need for one, IMO.
This is the cleanest, most stable, coolest OS I've ever experienced anywhere.
I can't imagine a custom ROM out there that I would prefer.
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as with the ROM i had with my droid 4, the ROM isnt definitely something completely different from the factory. it could be de-bloated, include apps that work well with the device, disable/remove apps that nobody uses. tidy up the framework of the stock ROM.
i would love a pre-cleaned ROM, wifi tether, or really just a deodexed ROM at this point.
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im new to android flashing, and bootloaders and all of that, but im only going off of my past experiences with my droid 4.
what i thought: a locked bootloader meant no custom kernels. as long as i have a custom recovery such as safestrap, i could flash ROM's, which is why there are ROM slots. i had eclipse ROM on my droid 4 even though that had a locked bootloader.
where am i getting confused? did the rooting process take care of the bootloader? or did ss bypass that?
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The droid 4 used a method called kexec which highjacked the boot process and allowed a custom bootloader to run instead of the phones locked bootloader. Hashcode has stated that kexec may never work for the new moto line but there's always hoping. This is why I just ordered the developers edition.
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The droid 4 used a method called kexec which highjacked the boot process and allowed a custom bootloader to run instead of the phones locked bootloader. Hashcode has stated that kexec may never work for the new moto line but there's always hoping. This is why I just ordered the developers edition.
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i thought without an unlocked bootloader you could not install custom roms, i knew you couldn't with kernels but i thought no roms either... i am mistaken i assume by the response of the others, or can you not do either? Either way, if you can't use a custom kernel then most custom roms will not work anyhow
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i thought without an unlocked bootloader you could not install custom roms, i knew you couldn't with kernels but i thought no roms either... i am mistaken i assume by the response of the others, or can you not do either? Either way, if you can't use a custom kernel then most custom roms will not work anyhow
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Incorrect. The Droid X had a locked bootloader, but it had a fairly large dev community. No custom kernels, but there was a good amount of ROM's available.
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Incorrect. The Droid X had a locked bootloader, but it had a fairly large dev community. No custom kernels, but there was a good amount of ROM's available.
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That would mean roms either came with no kernel baked in or they used to stock kernel then. I never had a phone without the boot loader being unlockable that being said how the devs and community spoke it came off as without it being that way no ROM was flashable but it was likely due to that most Roms come with a kernel baked in which is usually not stock. Anyway, thanks for correcting and informing me. Having a locked boot loader is new to me.
So I assume if I can manage to remove the kernel from the ROM zip I could flash the PAC ROM in our development section?
Sent from Ahjee's phone which is likely better than your lesser phone that doesn't have as many processors and can't run games as smoothly as this beast of a phone does stock
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That would mean roms either came with no kernel baked in or they used to stock kernel then. I never had a phone without the boot loader being unlockable that being said how the devs and community spoke it came off as without it being that way no ROM was flashable but it was likely due to that most Roms come with a kernel baked in which is usually not stock. Anyway, thanks for correcting and informing me. Having a locked boot loader is new to me.
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I believe (at least on the DX) flashing just didn't touch the kernels at all, so we were always running the stock kernel. But I'm not a dev, so don't quote me.
On the droid x and RAZR (prior to kexec) all ROMs were built using the stock kernel. The doid x had an official cm build using the stock kernel. Using the stock kernel for custom ROMs like cm makes it much more difficult to get everything going smooth because the kernel has been optimized to work with the stock ROM which may be a couple versions of android behind.
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Look at this post from the nook color thread. Unlocked boot loader with awesome devas equals a device that never dies. The nook color is currently on 4.3 and will probably get 4.4 before long.
That's right. Big ups to Cicadaman for that first Froyo port, "Nookie Froyo", which was invaluable for helping get that first CM7 (gingerbread) build booting (like months and months before GB showed up officially in BN's bastardized android, I might add!) Dalingrin joined in soon after and we and a few others got it polished together.... God, this was what, late 2010 or early 2011. It's hard to believe Android didn't even have even basic tablet support for soft buttons... requiring Tablet Tweaks... Oh, how time flies... :silly: ...and the nook color is still kickin'...
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On the droid x and RAZR (prior to kexec) all ROMs were built using the stock kernel. The doid x had an official cm build using the stock kernel. Using the stock kernel for custom ROMs like cm makes it much more difficult to get everything going smooth because the kernel has been optimized to work with the stock ROM which may be a couple versions of android behind.
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Look at this post from the nook color thread. Unlocked boot loader with awesome devas equals a device that never dies. The nook color is currently on 4.3 and will probably get 4.4 before long.
That's right. Big ups to Cicadaman for that first Froyo port, "Nookie Froyo", which was invaluable for helping get that first CM7 (gingerbread) build booting (like months and months before GB showed up officially in BN's bastardized android, I might add!) Dalingrin joined in soon after and we and a few others got it polished together.... God, this was what, late 2010 or early 2011. It's hard to believe Android didn't even have even basic tablet support for soft buttons... requiring Tablet Tweaks... Oh, how time flies... :silly: ...and the nook color is still kickin'...
Sent from my Droid Razr Maxx on JB 4.3 kexec
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sorry if it is a dumb question, but what exactly is a kernel? a ROM is like the operating system i assume, but..?
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sorry if it is a dumb question, but what exactly is a kernel? a ROM is like the operating system i assume, but..?
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not a stupid question dude, there's a lot going on with these phones and it takes to get educated and even more to be properly educated haha...things i think i know, i don't as you can tell lolol but the kernel is the engine so to speak, it's what makes the ROM or OS run how it does...the kernel has a bigger affect on battery life than the rom itself, well in my opinion but it's really a combination of the two together.
The kernel is what controls the CPU and GPU frequencies and whatnot
Ultra/Maxx/Mini
You guys say they're basically the same phone so everyone uses one forum, so can we install ROMs made for the other Droid devices?
My guess is probably not, so WHY are they not separated- silliest thing they could have done- I had to track this forum down over a week after I thought XDA just didn't support the Droid Maxx, and still don't understand what's going on.
I also have the same question as the OP: How can there not be a full root process/massive ROM list already for the Maxx with such a big community and such a popular phone line?
We're still waiting on a proper root
That said, anyone have any fun alternatives until then? Favorite/not well-known launchers or other themes?
PS Anyone have an Aviate Launcher invite left?
Thanks!
Vonsk said:
You guys say they're basically the same phone so everyone uses one forum, so can we install ROMs made for the other Droid devices?
My guess is probably not, so WHY are they not separated- silliest thing they could have done- I had to track this forum down over a week after I thought XDA just didn't support the Droid Maxx, and still don't understand what's going on.
I also have the same question as the OP: How can there not be a full root process/massive ROM list already for the Maxx with such a big community and such a popular phone line?
We're still waiting on a proper root
That said, anyone have any fun alternatives until then? Favorite/not well-known launchers or other themes?
PS Anyone have an Aviate Launcher invite left?
Thanks!
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Off the top of my head, the kernel is still signed by moto and cannot be modified.
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I'm making the transition from my old Droid X to the VZW Galaxy S3, and I have a few questions. The flashing process between these two phones are quite different and perhaps another ex-Droid X user (or just an all around knowledgeable person) could help me out.
1. To my knowledge, we were never able to flash Kernels on the Droid X because of its locked bootloader. So how does Kernel flashing work? Are there certain kernels that only pair with certain roms, or can you flash any kernel you like with any rom? I have a feeling it's the former, as I've already seen kernels categorized i.e. Touchwiz Kernels or CM10 based kernels.
2. With the Droid X, all roms were flashed using CWM. But with this phone that's not always the case right? Some may require a kexec method or even a custom recovery image, correct?
3. I've seen a few roms recommend backing up IMEI / MEID / EFS data before flashing. Is something I should consider doing whenever I flash, just as one would do a nandroid backup?
4. I've seen a few threads mentioning flash count, resetting flash count, etc. Should I be concerned with flash count? If so, why?
5. With the Droid X, before you could flash a rom, you had to make sure the firmware you were on was compatible with whatever rom you were trying out. For example, if you wanted to try cm7 you had to flash over the stock froyo kernel. If you wanted to try miui you had to flash over a stock gingerbread kernel. However, it would seem, with the S3 you can flash any rom (whether it be an ics rom or a jb rom) over stock 4.0.4. Is this correct? Can you flash an ics rom over the top of a jb rom? Or do you always have to revert back to ics stock?
6. Is Odin the Samsung equivalent of rsd lite?
D-meist said:
I'm making the transition from my old Droid X to the VZW Galaxy S3, and I have a few questions. The flashing process between these two phones are quite different and perhaps another ex-Droid X user (or just an all around knowledgeable person) could help me out.
1. To my knowledge, we were never able to flash Kernels on the Droid X because of its locked bootloader. So how does Kernel flashing work? Are there certain kernels that only pair with certain roms, or can you flash any kernel you like with any rom? I have a feeling it's the former, as I've already seen kernels categorized i.e. Touchwiz Kernels or CM10 based kernels.
2. With the Droid X, all roms were flashed using CWM. But with this phone that's not always the case right? Some may require a kexec method or even a custom recovery image, correct?
3. I've seen a few roms recommend backing up IMEI / MEID / EFS data before flashing. Is something I should consider doing whenever I flash, just as one would do a nandroid backup?
4. I've seen a few threads mentioning flash count, resetting flash count, etc. Should I be concerned with flash count? If so, why?
5. With the Droid X, before you could flash a rom, you had to make sure the firmware you were on was compatible with whatever rom you were trying out. For example, if you wanted to try cm7 you had to flash over the stock froyo kernel. If you wanted to try miui you had to flash over a stock gingerbread kernel. However, it would seem, with the S3 you can flash any rom (whether it be an ics rom or a jb rom) over stock 4.0.4. Is this correct? Can you flash an ics rom over the top of a jb rom? Or do you always have to revert back to ics stock?
6. Is Odin the Samsung equivalent of rsd lite?
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1. Flashing kernels has been made as simple as flashing ROMs
2. kexec is outdated since the bootloader got unlocked. You can also still use CWM on this or there's another recovery that people like called TWRP (Download an app called EZ-Recovery from the play store, youll need it to flash any recovery)
3. Losing IMEI is a royal paiin in the arse, but it's rare. Either way you want to back it up. I believe the guide on how to do so is in the Development Forum.
4. I haven't tripped the flash count. Basically all it is is a way for Verizon to tell if you been f'in with your phone. I Believe that only AOSP/AOKP ROMs can trip it, not stock ROMS
5. It's a bit simpler flashing between ROMs on this phone. Just wipe data/factory reset and flash away. For the most part.
6. Yes it is basically.
Check the guide out in my sig, it'll explain how to do most everything in detail.
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1. Flashing kernels has been made as simple as flashing ROMs
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To Elaborate on this just a bit, yes it is as easy as flashing roms but you were correct in saying that there are aosp kernels and there are tw kernels. just make sure the os version (ICS, JB) and the framework (TW, AOSP) match your rom and you are good to go!
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To Elaborate on this just a bit, yes it is as easy as flashing roms but you were correct in saying that there are aosp kernels and there are tw kernels. just make sure the os version (ICS, JB) and the framework (TW, AOSP) match your rom and you are good to go!
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Thanks Brian and Relentless. Going to cut my teeth on an easy TW rom for starters, probably Synergy.
D-meist said:
Thanks Brian and Relentless. Going to cut my teeth on an easy TW rom for starters, probably Synergy.
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If you are just getting your feet wet with tw roms, you might consider giving Bean's a try. I've been using Build 9 since it dropped and it's smooth.
imo, it's themed just enough to not look like a straight tw rom, the performance is great and the battery life is fantastic as well.
I've tried synergy once or twice and was never quite completely satisfied with it.
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Thanks Brian and Relentless. Going to cut my teeth on an easy TW rom for starters, probably Synergy.
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I haven't run CM or MIUI or any other AOSP ROM on this phone so take this with a grain of salt;
If you want cool stuff and constant bugs/lack of normal features go with the AOSP....
If you want some cool stuff and a nice stable daily driver... go with the TW ROMs. I've been running Synergy since 1.2(or 3 I cant remember lol) and I love it. Everything works on it, it's stable, and it's currently being ported to Jelly Bean so I can't wait for that shtuff. Eschelon and the rest of his team are good about listening to feature suggestions/requests too when they got time so more and more will be added.
Brian Gove said:
I haven't run CM or MIUI or any other AOSP ROM on this phone so take this with a grain of salt;
If you want cool stuff and constant bugs/lack of normal features go with the AOSP....
If you want some cool stuff and a nice stable daily driver... go with the TW ROMs. I've been running Synergy since 1.2(or 3 I cant remember lol) and I love it. Everything works on it, it's stable, and it's currently being ported to Jelly Bean so I can't wait for that shtuff. Eschelon and the rest of his team are good about listening to feature suggestions/requests too when they got time so more and more will be added.
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Relentless D said:
If you are just getting your feet wet with tw roms, you might consider giving Bean's a try. I've been using Build 9 since it dropped and it's smooth.
imo, it's themed just enough to not look like a straight tw rom, the performance is great and the battery life is fantastic as well.
I've tried synergy once or twice and was never quite completely satisfied with it.
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The moral of the story...Try out a few different roms What is amazing for one person might not be for the next. I'm flashing new roms every few days because I always want to see what else is out there.
Relentless D said:
The moral of the story...Try out a few different roms What is amazing for one person might not be for the next. I'm flashing new roms every few days because I always want to see what else is out there.
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Yea I had beans for a little while... I honestly cant remember why I switched. I was just suggesting he stick with the TW ROMs period cuz I dont feel the AOSP ROMs are anywhere near stable enough yet.
Don't want to hijack OP's thread, but do any of you know how to check flash counter?
I will be getting my FOURTH sg3 this week, and this is the first time I will be returning a phone that I had rooted/unlocked/rommed. I'm all back to stock, just want to make sure I don't get a bill for $600.
Kreeker said:
Don't want to hijack OP's thread, but do any of you know how to check flash counter?
I will be getting my FOURTH sg3 this week, and this is the first time I will be returning a phone that I had rooted/unlocked/rommed. I'm all back to stock, just want to make sure I don't get a bill for $600.
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haven't tried it but this is the best I've found searching around real quick.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781471
Brian Gove said:
3. Losing IMEI is a royal paiin in the arse, but it's rare. Either way you want to back it up. I believe the guide on how to do so is in the Development Forum.
How "rare" is it to lose the IMEI after flashing? And is losing your IMEI a possibility flashing any ROM or just certain ones like CM10 or AOSP, or are TW and Stock roms susceptible to this as well?
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How "rare" is it to lose the IMEI after flashing? And is losing your IMEI a possibility flashing any ROM or just certain ones like CM10 or AOSP, or are TW and Stock roms susceptible to this as well?
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I honestly don't know. One of the devs for Synergy ROM said something to the effect its "a weird Samsung reboot code and so the phone automatically restores a bad backup of your IMEI. It's a fluke thing"
It's 100% random when flashing anything I believe.
If u use the synergy Rom to flash it automatically has a script to back up your meid number and stuff. I've flashed synergy official cm10 nightlies without a hitch. Just make sure that u obtain root and unlock the bootloader and flash recovery. Thus far I've had no problems. Btw synergy Rom is the best one out there. Jellywiz is a jb Rom it is awesome but only thing that doesn't work is sms at the present time. If u want to back up ur meid best tool to use is qpst just Google it. Also all in one tool that has been great for me unlocking obtaining root and stuff is Verizon gs3 casual tool. In order to use that tool u mist have java se framework which u can find at the java website. Any questions feel free to shoot me a message! Good luck!
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If u use the synergy Rom to flash it automatically has a script to back up your meid number and stuff. I've flashed synergy official cm10 nightlies without a hitch. Just make sure that u obtain root and unlock the bootloader and flash recovery. Thus far I've had no problems. Btw synergy Rom is the best one out there. Jellywiz is a jb Rom it is awesome but only thing that doesn't work is sms at the present time. If u want to back up ur meid best tool to use is qpst just Google it. Also all in one tool that has been great for me unlocking obtaining root and stuff is Verizon gs3 casual tool. In order to use that tool u mist have java se framework which u can find at the java website. Any questions feel free to shoot me a message! Good luck!
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Just to clarify. Synergy is a stock tw based rom and CM10 is well a cm based rom. Two different monsters and roms entirely.
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U r right but both can be flashed the same way
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Brian Gove said:
3. Losing IMEI is a royal paiin in the arse, but it's rare. Either way you want to back it up. I believe the guide on how to do so is in the Development Forum.
How "rare" is it to lose the IMEI after flashing? And is losing your IMEI a possibility flashing any ROM or just certain ones like CM10 or AOSP, or are TW and Stock roms susceptible to this as well?
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I found this thread which looks like the Synergy guys made a script to backup IMEI. I gave it a go and was succesful in backing it up. Seemed much easier than the QPST method. Don't know if it will actually restore, but hopefully I'll never have to find out.
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So Im ready to go through and flash a ROM finally but I just want to make sure I do things right. I have clockwork mod and have made a backup already. After I download the ROM do they come with different kernels or can I use stock? Also what is a good stable ROM to start with? Id like to get a jellybean one but I have seen one with a lot of bugs still. Any help would be great
Tap'n
9Start with clean rom + clean kernel . This is a good dose to start.
Once you feel comfortable and would like a higher dose
Then move to beans or synergy ..here you can mix and match kernels and roms
Beans comes with imos kernel
Synergy comes with ziggys kernel
Mix and match kernels for your perfect combination
By now you are probably craving a rom with daily updates
Cm10 paranoidandroid AOKP are 3 roms with daily updates
Here youll find imos aosp kernel and kt kernel that go hand in hand with aosp.
By now the first leak of VZW touchwiz jellybean should be hitting the interwebs to take care of any addiction that may ensue. Happy flashing.
VZW GALAXY S 3 4G LTE
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9Start with clean rom + clean kernel . This is a good dose to start.
Once you feel comfortable and would like a higher dose
Then move to beans or synergy ..here you can mix and match kernels and roms
Beans comes with imos kernel
Synergy comes with ziggys kernel
Mix and match kernels for your perfect combination
By now you are probably craving a rom with daily updates
Cm10 paranoidandroid AOKP are 3 roms with daily updates
Here youll find imos aosp kernel and kt kernel that go hand in hand with aosp.
By now the first leak of VZW touchwiz jellybean should be hitting the interwebs to take care of any addiction that may ensue. Happy flashing.
VZW GALAXY S 3 4G LTE
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Thanks for the help. Now if I were to cwm back to my backup of stock does that reinstall my stock kernel?
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yep
So do I flash the .zip of the ROM first then the kernel then reboot? Cause I tried beans but you can use stock kernel with it cause my bootloader isn't unlocked
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techgov8 said:
So do I flash the .zip of the ROM first then the kernel then reboot? Cause I tried beans but you can use stock kernel with it cause my bootloader isn't unlocked
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Just download ezunlock from the market to unlock your bootloader. No reason to keep it locked.
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Just download ezunlock from the market to unlock your bootloader. No reason to keep it locked.
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Well I heard if its unlocked then it can brick you if you OTA. Or does the lock button actually re-lock it?
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techgov8 said:
Well I heard if its unlocked then it can brick you if you OTA. Or does the lock button actually re-lock it?
Tap'n
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yeah it can, just never accept and OTA and you'll be good. Plus since you want to install custom roms, your going to need custom recovery. These block otas from happening even if it was automatically pushed to your phone.
The lock button does relock it.
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yeah it can, just never accept and OTA and you'll be good. Plus since you want to install custom roms, your going to need custom recovery. These block otas from happening even if it was automatically pushed to your phone.
The lock button does relock it.
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If you're going into custom roms there's not really much reason to accept OTA anyway.
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Well I heard if its unlocked then it can brick you if you OTA. Or does the lock button actually re-lock it?
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almost all custom roms dont allow the pop up about a OTA anyways so you should be clear
Ive used Synergy v1.7, and CleanRom 2.0/CleanKernel 1.0 is way better and smoother than Synergy. Im thinking about upgrading to Beans..but im not sure I want to do that yet till all the bugs are worked out of the different Roms to choose from now.
Hey guys, I have had a Bionic for the past 18 months or so....forgive me if my questions sound silly....
Recently, I was given a S3 to use. Before I take the plunge and get it activated, I was tryign to learn about the ROMS etc out there.
- I see there are TouchWiz ROMS and AOSP roms. I'm assuming the TouchWiz ROMS are based on stock rom just tweaked and debloated and teh AOSP ROMS are the ones built from scratch?
- I see there are kernels around....same, AOSP and TW. Is it safe to assume if I use AOSP, I need to get an AOSP kernel? If I install for example the latest Liquidsmooth....do I have to do the kernel 1st? or does the ROM have the kernel built in?
- Do I have to unlock the bootloader? Or is that what the kernel does?
Again, sorry for the dumb questions....my Bionic was simpler to do...with less options....
Thanks in advance
docluv01 said:
Hey guys, I have had a Bionic for the past 18 months or so....forgive me if my questions sound silly....
Recently, I was given a S3 to use. Before I take the plunge and get it activated, I was tryign to learn about the ROMS etc out there.
- I see there are TouchWiz ROMS and AOSP roms. I'm assuming the TouchWiz ROMS are based on stock rom just tweaked and debloated and teh AOSP ROMS are the ones built from scratch?
- I see there are kernels around....same, AOSP and TW. Is it safe to assume if I use AOSP, I need to get an AOSP kernel? If I install for example the latest Liquidsmooth....do I have to do the kernel 1st? or does the ROM have the kernel built in?
- Do I have to unlock the bootloader? Or is that what the kernel does?
Again, sorry for the dumb questions....my Bionic was simpler to do...with less options....
Thanks in advance
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1. AOSP is the original Android OS untouched by any company. Touchwiz is Samsung's version Android.
2. You don't need a custom kernel but it can optimize your phone for increase in battery life.
3. All ROMs have kernels built-in they have to or else it won't work .
4. You must unlock the boot loader in order to flash anything.
Gotcha..!
Thank you!
So is it safe to assume, you flash ROM 1st, then you flash kernel? At 1st glance, I like the Liguidsmooth ROM, but people are also raving about the KT747 kernel. SO I would have to flash his AOSP version...
I have seen some radios also...Is that advisable to do?
jmxc23 said:
1. AOSP is the original Android OS untouched by any company. Touchwiz is Samsung's version Android.
2. You don't need a custom kernel but it can optimize your phone for increase in battery life.
3. All ROMs have kernels built-in they have to or else it won't work .
4. You must unlock the boot loader in order to flash anything.
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Yes that is correct but you must first root your phone. The bionic had a larger margin of error when it came to rooting.
Yes, 1st thing I'm going to do is root and unlock the bootloader....
One last Q...
I see people are having GPS lock issues on some ROMs (eg Liquidsmooth), compared to stock. Would that be a kernel type off issue? Would updating the kernel to the KT747 fix this?
jmxc23 said:
Yes that is correct but you must first root your phone. The bionic had a larger margin of error when it came to rooting.
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It is a ROM issue so the devs have to make a fix for it.
I just ordered a refurbed tf300t w/ the keyboard dock. I'm looking to root it and install cm pretty quickly. From what i can gather there are some problems with the 4.2 bootloader and cm. Can some one point me in the direction of a guide to unlock the bootloader and which twrp to install. I figure since its refurbed it's probably on 4.2.
everything on the forums i found is for 4.1 or less. also is there a reason this tablet isnt a stable cm10.1 device?
That Baker Guy said:
I just ordered a refurbed tf300t w/ the keyboard dock. I'm looking to root it and install cm pretty quickly. From what i can gather there are some problems with the 4.2 bootloader and cm. Can some one point me in the direction of a guide to unlock the bootloader and which twrp to install. I figure since its refurbed it's probably on 4.2.
everything on the forums i found is for 4.1 or less. also is there a reason this tablet isnt a stable cm10.1 device?
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On this tablet don't get in a hurry for anything. When you verify (absolutely) the bootloader version (ICS(4.0), JB(4.1), JB(4.2 10.6.1.8), or JB(4.2 10.6.1.15.3) then you can begin to read and plan.
Here is a link to many things you will need including the two apps for unlocking the bootloader.
While there don't forget to thank philos64. You will use this thread many times while owning this tablet.
Unlocking is simple. Run the proper app for your bootloader version as explained in the above thread. Two apps for the four bootloaders.
Which twrp etc depends on the bootloader in use.
Good Luck!
Go slow, do your homework, and play safe or this tablet will leave you in the dust (there are many, many bricks to prove it).
I don't know about the current cm10 and stability when it went multi user (10.1) I started looking for other roms.
Just my desire not problems with 10.1.
I'm also new to this device and after unlocking just followed this today:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=42005728&postcount=91
Changed a couple of things, such as TWRP version and flashed CM10.1 instead of the one in the example. All I changed from the guide linked were the files used, based on thoroughly reading other topics first.
tobdaryl said:
On this tablet don't get in a hurry for anything. When you verify (absolutely) the bootloader version (ICS(4.0), JB(4.1), JB(4.2 10.6.1.8), or JB(4.2 10.6.1.15.3) then you can begin to read and plan.
Here is a link to many things you will need including the two apps for unlocking the bootloader.
While there don't forget to thank philos64. You will use this thread many times while owning this tablet.
Unlocking is simple. Run the proper app for your bootloader version as explained in the above thread. Two apps for the four bootloaders.
Which twrp etc depends on the bootloader in use.
Good Luck!
Go slow, do your homework, and play safe or this tablet will leave you in the dust (there are many, many bricks to prove it).
I don't know about the current cm10 and stability when it went multi user (10.1) I started looking for other roms.
Just my desire not problems with 10.1.
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thanks for the reply, I'll read through those and be on my way! thanks!
also are there any roms i should check out in the dev forum? cm is main stream any of the other roms worth checking out?
That Baker Guy said:
thanks for the reply, I'll read through those and be on my way! thanks!
also are there any roms i should check out in the dev forum? cm is main stream any of the other roms worth checking out?
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I'm partial to CROMi.
I'm afraid rom choice is mostly personal. For my use all versions of CROMi have been solid and you have many options during install to customize as you like.
okay so i just got my tf300t today, I'm on JB 4.1.1. what is the best course of action asfar as stock updates? i dont plan on rooting for a couple days to get used to the stock interface.
That Baker Guy said:
okay so i just got my tf300t today, I'm on JB 4.1.1. what is the best course of action asfar as stock updates? i dont plan on rooting for a couple days to get used to the stock interface.
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My favorite stock rom is 10.4.2.20.
If you intend unlocking and flashing a custom rom you might want to update to the proper bootloader for that rom while you still have stock recovery (not twrp).
tobdaryl said:
My favorite stock rom is 10.4.2.20.
If you intend unlocking and flashing a custom rom you might want to update to the proper bootloader for that rom while you still have stock recovery (not twrp).
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Okay, I saw some stuff about down grading the bootloaders can I swap back and forth or do I need to be careful?
That Baker Guy said:
Okay, I saw some stuff about down grading the bootloaders can I swap back and forth or do I need to be careful?
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Bootloaders have been an issue on this tablet since 4.1 (JB) arrived.
I swap at will between the JB bootloaders using stock recovery - next bootloader up or down.
Yes, be careful! Match bootloader, rom and twrp.
Here are the bootloaders, stock roms, and twrp- now you have to match your custom rom.
4.1 bootloader - 10.4.2.9, 10.4.2.13, 10.4.2.17, 10.4.2.18, 10.4.2.20 - twrp openrecovery-twrp-2.5.0.0-tf300t-JB.blob
4.2 bootloader - 10.6.1.8 - twrp openrecovery-twrp-2.4.4.0-tf300t-4.2.blob
4.2.1 bootloader - 10.6.1.15.3 - twrp openrecovery-twrp-2.5.0.0-tf300t-4.2.blob
I'm confused just reading this mess.
tobdaryl said:
Bootloaders have been an issue on this tablet since 4.1 (JB) arrived.
I swap at will between the JB bootloaders using stock recovery - next bootloader up or down.
Yes, be careful! Match bootloader, rom and twrp.
Here are the bootloaders, stock roms, and twrp- now you have to match your custom rom.
4.1 bootloader - 10.4.2.9, 10.4.2.13, 10.4.2.17, 10.4.2.18, 10.4.2.20 - twrp openrecovery-twrp-2.5.0.0-tf300t-JB.blob
4.2 bootloader - 10.6.1.8 - twrp openrecovery-twrp-2.4.4.0-tf300t-4.2.blob
4.2.1 bootloader - 10.6.1.15.3 - twrp openrecovery-twrp-2.5.0.0-tf300t-4.2.blob
I'm confused just reading this mess.
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Thanks a tonne! I'll probably upgrades to stock 4.2.2, see how that goes then unlock and such at a later date.
That Baker Guy said:
Thanks a tonne! I'll probably upgrades to stock 4.2.2, see how that goes then unlock and such at a later date.
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Good Luck!
I'm in the same position, just got a refurb TF300T. it's currently on JB 4.1.1 stock firmware 10.4.2.20. Is there any reason NOT to allow it to update to the latest firmware?
I haven't unlocked bootloader yet.
Thanks
Frankyg said:
I'm in the same position, just got a refurb TF300T. it's currently on JB 4.1.1 stock firmware 10.4.2.20. Is there any reason NOT to allow it to update to the latest firmware?
I haven't unlocked bootloader yet.
Thanks
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Nothing significant that I know.
hey do you guys have a quadrent score on this cromi rom? im getting about 3600 on the the stock 4.2.1 rom, just wondering if you guys are getting anything better on Cromi? I'm reading up on this pretty good, I'll probably install it some time next week. since this is a refurb i dont want to unlock right away in case of defect.
That Baker Guy said:
hey do you guys have a quadrent score on this cromi rom? im getting about 3600 on the the stock 4.2.1 rom, just wondering if you guys are getting anything better on Cromi? I'm reading up on this pretty good, I'll probably install it some time next week. since this is a refurb i dont want to unlock right away in case of defect.
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First I must say I rate roms by how compatible they are and if everything I use works without issues including lag.
The link I provided for CROMi shows a score of 6214 in the first post (op).
I notice there is at least one other CROMi listed which I have not tried. The CROMi by sbdags also provides other kernel options for more speed and other enhancements.
I'm sure someone else will respond with the fastest kernel for this rom as it is very popular.
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First I must say I rate roms by how compatible they are and if everything I use works without issues including lag.
The link I provided for CROMi shows a score of 6214 in the first post (op).
I notice there is at least one other CROMi listed which I have not tried. The CROMi by sbdags also provides other kernel options for more speed and other enhancements.
I'm sure someone else will respond with the fastest kernel for this rom as it is very popular.
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yeah im noticing a bit of lag on 4.2.1 i dont know if its the rom or hardware, I must say I absoloutly love this tablet. Coming from an og nook color and a kindle fire this is leagues better.
The tablet screen shots on the page are from the tf700, if you look at the build number, so that quadrent score is probably not a good representation of our tablet.
Other than that the stock rom is fine but, I'm always looking for better performance.
For better performance I would reccomend cromi-x it is WAY smoother then stock, but based on stock.
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noahvt said:
For better performance I would reccomend cromi-x it is WAY smoother then stock, but based on stock.
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do you have a link, or it is the same as suggested before?
That Baker Guy said:
do you have a link, or it is the same as suggested before?
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here is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2204166
I'm getting my tf300t on Saturday! I'm so pumped by the way, make sure to search for Roms on Google too, some Roms aren't released on xda. Like jellybam! I saw jellybam has a release for the tf300t. Woot-woot always wanted to try that one out.
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Hey guys, I'm fairly new to smartphones. I recently bought a RAZR HD xt926 knowing it was a really good phone but I hadn't dug deep enough to realize the bootloader is not unlockable anymore until after I bought one :crying: . So I've been scrounging around for my options. So far I've gotten Safestrap 3.60 and rooted my phone. I've noticed some mention of flashing CM 10 or 10.1 using SS but every zip I find either fails to flash or wont boot afterwards.
Anyone know where a good and working CM10 zip that would work and/or the best SS compatible rom?
System version: 9.18.79
Android 4.1.2
build number: 9.8.1Q-79
You can't use CM with Safestrap because it tries to flash a different kernel. You need to use ROMs that are stock-based like RageHD, Nexesque, etc.
What are you looking for exactly? Something very close to stock or something with more custom stuff added?
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You can't use CM with Safestrap because it tries to flash a different kernel. You need to use ROMs that are stock-based like RageHD, Nexesque, etc.
What are you looking for exactly? Something very close to stock or something with more custom stuff added?
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Well I was basing that off of several threads I found like this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34592575
Says it is CM 10 that works on Safestrap3 but the file isn't available any more on the download site.
I'm not sure exactly what I'm looking for. I've looked briefly at Aviator, RageHD, Blurry, Widow, Paragon Maxximus, and a couple others I found. Only found a small handful so far though.
Currently I'm using the stock but added AntTek Quick Toggle, Notification Toggle, Google Keyboard (very similar to CM's minus the blue), and Reboot Menu Widget *ROOT* (as the stock doesn't have Reboot in the power menu). Pretty much just adding stuff to give it more of the features I really enjoyed on my previous phone which has CM10.1.3 on it
Hmm, maybe that version of CM will work then. I never ended up using Safestrap myself so I couldn't say for sure.
Anyway, the link doesn't work right now because goo.im is in the middle of upgrading their servers.
I see. Hopefully I'll be able to get it once they finish and it work out. :good: guess that's the best I can do with this phone. Stock rom doesn't look half bad when using Next launcher 3D combined with the rest of the stuff I mentioned.
Yeah, I agree. Stock isn't bad at all with root. You get great battery life and you can remove all the bloatware anyway.
Yeah, I've yet to remove any bloatware. Probably only adding to the list in a way. The battery life was the main reason I bought this phone as my SII Skyrocket has a terrible battery life. I'd probably have gotten another phone or tried to find a developer or unlocked version if I'd known beforehand about the update, but such is my luck :silly:
Jaysp656 said:
Well I was basing that off of several threads I found like this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34592575
Says it is CM 10 that works on Safestrap3 but the file isn't available any more on the download site.
I'm not sure exactly what I'm looking for. I've looked briefly at Aviator, RageHD, Blurry, Widow, Paragon Maxximus, and a couple others I found. Only found a small handful so far though.
Currently I'm using the stock but added AntTek Quick Toggle, Notification Toggle, Google Keyboard (very similar to CM's minus the blue), and Reboot Menu Widget *ROOT* (as the stock doesn't have Reboot in the power menu). Pretty much just adding stuff to give it more of the features I really enjoyed on my previous phone which has CM10.1.3 on it
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If I was locked, I would be using nexesque personally. Great rom.
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koftheworld said:
If I was locked, I would be using nexesque personally. Great rom.
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You can flash Nexesque on an unlocked phone. That's what I have and encounter no issues, I believe when Adam released it it was specifically for an unlocked phone and safestrap as an alternative
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