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Used Tf300 vs Tf201?

Which one would you choose? Both are around the same price on the used market.... The issues resolved and the plastic shell of the 300 will not get scratched, wifi seems fine, the 201 has a better screen and gorilla glass so it might not break as easily, what do you guys thinkg?

The prime... I bought the tf300 for 470$ just formthe bt3 and ddr3 and i made a mistake.... Tf201 lighter, aluminiun, and better in benchmarks...
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Kico. St said:
The prime... I bought the tf300 for 470$ just formthe bt3 and ddr3 and i made a mistake.... Tf201 lighter, aluminiun, and better in benchmarks...
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* aluminum: weak gps/wifi. this is a really big problem of tf201
* a few hundreds difference in benchmark score doesn't mean anything in Android nowadays.
- However, the screen on Tf201 is so much better than tf300. Much brighter and much colorful.
- BTW,all asus transformer devices have a serious problem with potential I/O bottleneck , which causes lagging, slow response when using web browsers. Pretty annoying to me.

neither, get the tf700. Just did a price match at best buy for 347.49. Coming from tf101.
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pierrekid said:
neither, get the tf700. Just did a price match at best buy for 347.49. Coming from tf101.
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me too

Chris9446 said:
me too
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How did you price match it and get it for $350? What did you price match it too? I'm trying to get a transformer for my dad for his birthday and if I can get the tf700 for that price it'd be great!

nickthequick13 said:
How did you price match it and get it for $350? What did you price match it too? I'm trying to get a transformer for my dad for his birthday and if I can get the tf700 for that price it'd be great!
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Go to post #34. We used that website and showed the employee at best buy. Simple price match!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1830459&page=4
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pierrekid said:
neither, get the tf700. Just did a price match at best buy for 347.49. Coming from tf101.
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If you like game emulators like N64, Psx and MAME reloaded, the Infinity is slower than the TF300, so I prefer the TF300. The higher res display using the same gpu has some drawbacks.
A far as the sale, you lucked out, since Best Buy policy is to only match local stores and if in stock.
Good for you!

rushless said:
If you like game emulators like N64, Psx and MAME reloaded, the Infinity is slower than the TF300, so I prefer the TF300. The higher res display using the same gpu has some drawbacks.
A far as the sale, you lucked out, since Best Buy policy is to only match local stores and if in stock.
Good for you!
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Prove that its slower, because i seeing a bunch of smoke in that statement. The fact that your trying to comparing performance of a tf300 and tf700 alone warrants you provide hard evidence.
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tritran18518 said:
- BTW,all asus transformer devices have a serious problem with potential I/O bottleneck , which causes lagging, slow response when using web browsers. Pretty annoying to me.
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this is much better in JB now. hasn't shown me the dreaded ANR message yet.

pierrekid said:
Prove that its slower, because i seeing a bunch of smoke in that statement. The fact that your trying to comparing performance of a tf300 and tf700 alone warrants you provide hard evidence.
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it is pretty common knowledge that it takes more power to run a higher resolution...wether you will actually notice it during game play is up to the individual user...and something as simple as NES/n64 emulators shouldn't be much different...now something like shadowgun, or dead trigger...there you may notice a slight difference...but IMO, the higher res screen is soooo much better for 90% of what you do on a tablet it is worth the trade-offs
lawrence750 said:
this is much better in JB now. hasn't shown me the dreaded ANR message yet.
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yup, i haven't gotten the ANR message since JB...but the problem is still there...just much less obvious. hoping it is 100% software related and ASUS can get it completely taken care of with another update or 2.

pierrekid said:
Prove that its slower, because i seeing a bunch of smoke in that statement. The fact that your trying to comparing performance of a tf300 and tf700 alone warrants you provide hard evidence.
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Compared with a store demo and seen enough. The result logically fits the fact there are 150% more pixels to push data to with the 700.
N64oid, Fpse and MAMEReloaded all have the option to leverage the gpu and this is where the 700 is slower.
Test for yourself. I can not be bothered to test again, since sticking with the 300 until a gpu is designed to better deal with higher res when pushing data to higher re displays.

rushless said:
Compared with a store demo and seen enough. The result logically fits the fact there are 150% more pixels to push data to with the 700.
N64oid, Fpse and MAMEReloaded all have the option to leverage the gpu and this is where the 700 is slower.
Test for yourself. I can not be bothered to test again, since sticking with the 300 until a gpu is designed to better deal with higher res when pushing data to higher re displays.
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So testing it in a store for a couple hours give you conclusive evidence that the tf300 outperformes the tf700... based off third party emulators that have yet to be updated to fully optimize the tf700 and its capabilities. Man you have a lot to learn about how to review devices and make accurate judgment calls on what's good and what's not. Until you sit down and own the device for a couple days, testing its parameters against that of the tf300 at cold boot, extended running time, while other processes are up and overclocked then you should not be stating that it outperforms...just saying.
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Stock to stock devices, the T700 is slower with the emulators mentioned, when the gpu option is activated in the apps. Testing beyond the 90 minutes tested will not change that.
If you do not use those emulators or lower priority, the 700 is fine. Since I already have an iPad 3 64GB for my high res fix, the T300 is a better for for me for its main function, game emulators.
There is a reason the iPad 3 has a big a$$ gpu in it and that is to efficiently handle the display. Considering I have been working with computers since the Voodoo FX days, I know a little bit about gpu function.
The 700 is a fine device, but the gpu is better suited for 1280x800 displays, if the app leverages the gpu.
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rushless said:
Stock to stock devices, the T700 is slower with the emulators mentioned, when the gpu option is activated in the apps. Testing beyond the 90 minutes tested will not change that.
If you do not use those emulators or lower priority, the 700 is fine. Since I already have an iPad 3 64GB for my high res fix, the T300 is a better for for me for its main function, game emulators.
There is a reason the iPad 3 has a big a$$ gpu in it and that is to efficiently handle the display. Considering I have been working with computers since the Voodoo FX days, I know a little bit about gpu function.
The 700 is a fine device, but the gpu is better suited for 1280x800 displays, if the app leverages the gpu.
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lol alright, you go ahead and enjoy your "higher performance" tf300. Ill sit here with lowly tf700. Btw, the gpu on the tf700 is 3 times the size of the ipad3, so much for all the computer knowledge you have.
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Anyways, to the OP, if you arelooking for the best device for price the tf700 is a beast. Its the most powerful tablet on the market and, once JB hits, will be insane. Remember to check out post #34 on that forum for details on the price match. Good luck to ya!
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pierrekid said:
lol alright, you go ahead and enjoy your "higher performance" tf300. Ill sit here with lowly tf700. Btw, the gpu on the tf700 is 3 times the size of the ipad3, so much for all the computer knowledge you have.
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I dont know why...but i think this is going to get good.....
*grabs bag of popcorn, sits and waits*

pierrekid said:
lol alright, you go ahead and enjoy your "higher performance" tf300. Ill sit here with lowly tf700. Btw, the gpu on the tf700 is 3 times the size of the ipad3, so much for all the computer knowledge you have.
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Seeing as on both the Tegra 3 in the TF700 and the A5X in the New iPad are both SoC processors, size of the GPU should be measured as the total die size of the chip.
The Tegra 3 has a die size of ~80mm2, where as the AX5 has a die size of 163mm2, resulting in the AX5 actually being at least 2.0375 times the size of the Tegra 3.
So your comment suggesting "the gpu on the tf700 is 3 times the size of the ipad3" is simply incorrect.
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i love it when stuff like ^^that^^ happens

turdbogls said:
i love it when stuff like ^^that^^ happens
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ha!
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turdbogls said:
i love it when stuff like ^^that^^ happens
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ha!
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Nexus 10!!

Well since its been leaked and has crazy good specs, who is thinking of trading in their t tf700 for the New nexus?
Here is a link with pics and information
http://briefmobile.com/google-nexus-10-samsung-android-4-2
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Their server is overloaded. Here's the pics. I wonder if they're going to use the pogo pins for a keyboard accessory. For Asus' sake I hope not.

Initial thoughts were yes I would.. after thinking about it.. IDK. to many things I unsure of at this time. Waiting for the official announcement and pricing to see. Like the UI. Can we have the tablet UI still? Not a fan of the phone UI on a 10 incher. I don't think there is, but HDMI out? I use that all the time. Also the 700 I think looks better, BUT having a Nexus tablet is a big piece making me lean the other way.. of course IMO.

Nope Asus is good with updates I'll keep my tf700
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Unless google changes its policy of not letting Nexus devices have sdcards or 64GB internal storage, I'll pass. When are those idiots going to realize that these are media consumption devices?

As a Prime TF201 owner Ive been waiting to see what this tab was going to bring for a while.Almost pulled the trigger a few times for the TF700t but resisted the urge and let patience be my guide.After getting a Galaxy S3 about a month ago,I was blown away by how much smoother overall it is over my prime..Web browsing,phone browsing,app launching etc runs circles around my Prime.I was hoping to see 2gb of ram on this and they have delivered..Hopefully its priced @ $500 or less...Im in!!!

Not gonna jump ship. First if it has the same UI as the N7 that'll just look silly on a N10 IMO. Second, if it doesn't have any ports other than a micro USB then its lost a ton of useful functions when compared to the Infinity.
This really needs to wow me. The only attractive thing about the N7 is its price and OS updates, but for me I need function and the N7 doesn't have it and it looks like the N10 will be the same. I'm willing to spend extra for functions. That being said, if they price this below $400 you are looking at an absolute steal and since most people use tablets for internet browsing/movies/gaming then buying this is a no brainer.

It does not meet my expectation design-wise....specs are amazing 300 ppi would be awesome!!!
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aydc said:
Unless google changes its policy of not letting Nexus devices have sdcards or 64GB internal storage, I'll pass. When are those idiots going to realize that these are media consumption devices?
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You are supposed to stream all media from "the cloud" - no need for local storage.
But yes, a device without external storage sucks.

spillner said:
First if it has the same UI as the N7 that'll just look silly
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The orientation issue was fixed in 4.1.2. You can't tell by the lockscreen what the 4.2 UI is going to look like or what features it will add.
"However, Google Nexus 7 owners will be happy to know it also enables landscape orientation to both the homescreen and lockscreen."
http://www.gsmarena.com/google_rele...he_nexus_7_brings_minor_updates-news-4923.php

Hell no. Since the JB update this tab is perfect, havent had a single issue so far. On top of that i need the dock for school and typing. I see absolutely NO reason to change tabs less then a couple months after getting this amazing infinity!
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lesonal said:
Nope Asus is good with updates I'll keep my tf700
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And this is google so everything would come out first for the nexus 10.
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BarryH_GEG said:
The orientation issue was fixed in 4.1.2. You can't tell by the lockscreen what the 4.2 UI is going to look like or what features it will add.
"However, Google Nexus 7 owners will be happy to know it also enables landscape orientation to both the homescreen and lockscreen."
http://www.gsmarena.com/google_rele...he_nexus_7_brings_minor_updates-news-4923.php
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Its not so much the screen orientation, its the overall look. My GN looks great but its a phone and the soft keys are in a perfect spot. On a 10" display the soft keys will be located in the center which makes reaching them a pain, especially in landscape. The stock tablet UI that almost every Android tablet has used (except for the Kindle Fire) works very well. The controls are always where your thumbs are naturally and I'm not sure why Google has deviated from that design.

no option for a memory card=no buy.
might as well get an ipad
But if it does have card slot (has this been confirmed?) and can match the screen resolution of the Inifinity, i might consider it.

pierrekid said:
I see absolutely NO reason to change tabs less then a couple months after getting this amazing infinity!
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Assuming the components are equal or better than what Samsung used in the Note here's a list.
- A more modern and efficient CPU with 2/3 more memory bandwidth
- A GPU that's equal to the PowerVX used in the iPad
- 5GHz Wi-Fi with channel bonding that doubles throughput on routers that support it
- BT 4.0 with aptX
- USB 3.0
- A Samsung (vs. HannStar) sourced display with greater resolution
- Samsung RAM, NAND, and Exynos 5 has a dedicated IO controller
- Updates directly from Google as they're released
- Warranty support from Samsung
- A bootloader that's unlockable without voiding your warranty
- Huge dev support
I agree with you about not changing out a device you're happy with but going forward people that don't need the keyboard, expandable storage, or the extra battery life would be silly not to get a N10 at the same price or most likely less than the TF700. The price is rumored to be $399 for 32GB. If I didn't need/want the S-Pen and 3G my Note would be on CL.
Here’s a link detailing the Exynos 5250 and Mali T604
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6148/samsung-announces-a15malit604-based-exynos-5-dual

Besides the screen this tablet is not a TF700T killer. I am happy with my infinty and JB. The only thing that would make me even think about it at this point is that it is a Nexus not tied to a carrier, so the updates will come fast.
But my infinity with CleanRom is running killer right now.
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allan1313 said:
Besides the screen this tablet is not a TF700T killer. I am happy with my infinty and JB. The only thing that would make me even think about it at this point is that it is a Nexus not tied to a carrier, so the updates will come fast.
But my infinity with CleanRom is running killer right now.
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I too am running CleanRom and it has made my Infinity a beast. No need to buy an N10, I'm real happy with my Infinity.

aydc said:
Unless google changes its policy of not letting Nexus devices have sdcards or 64GB internal storage, I'll pass. When are those idiots going to realize that these are media consumption devices?
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There should be an array of storage size options starting at 16GB. IDK if they will hit 64, but I'm sure at least 32. They're all about streaming. Also it has microUSB, so you can always use a small external HD for things that take up so much space.
wctaylor79 said:
Initial thoughts were yes I would.. after thinking about it.. IDK. to many things I unsure of at this time. Waiting for the official announcement and pricing to see. Like the UI. Can we have the tablet UI still? Not a fan of the phone UI on a 10 incher. I don't think there is, but HDMI out? I use that all the time. Also the 700 I think looks better, BUT having a Nexus tablet is a big piece making me lean the other way.. of course IMO.
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MiniHDMI out
spillner said:
Not gonna jump ship. First if it has the same UI as the N7 that'll just look silly on a N10 IMO. Second, if it doesn't have any ports other than a micro USB then its lost a ton of useful functions when compared to the Infinity.
This really needs to wow me. The only attractive thing about the N7 is its price and OS updates, but for me I need function and the N7 doesn't have it and it looks like the N10 will be the same. I'm willing to spend extra for functions. That being said, if they price this below $400 you are looking at an absolute steal and since most people use tablets for internet browsing/movies/gaming then buying this is a no brainer.
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MiniHDMI
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You are supposed to stream all media from "the cloud" - no need for local storage.
But yes, a device without external storage sucks.
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Yea, I agree - I don't think that google is (in the short term) going to really make streaming content from them THAT attractive. It's too ambitious to bottom out storage options at this point. Maybe in a few years when things are better connected within their own ecosystem.
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aydc said:
Unless google changes its policy of not letting Nexus devices have sdcards or 64GB internal storage, I'll pass. When are those idiots going to realize that these are media consumption devices?
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wctaylor79 said:
Initial thoughts were yes I would.. after thinking about it.. IDK. to many things I unsure of at this time. Waiting for the official announcement and pricing to see. Like the UI. Can we have the tablet UI still? Not a fan of the phone UI on a 10 incher. I don't think there is, but HDMI out? I use that all the time. Also the 700 I think looks better, BUT having a Nexus tablet is a big piece making me lean the other way.. of course IMO.
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Not gonna jump ship. First if it has the same UI as the N7 that'll just look silly on a N10 IMO. Second, if it doesn't have any ports other than a micro USB then its lost a ton of useful functions when compared to the Infinity.
This really needs to wow me. The only attractive thing about the N7 is its price and OS updates, but for me I need function and the N7 doesn't have it and it looks like the N10 will be the same. I'm willing to spend extra for functions. That being said, if they price this below $400 you are looking at an absolute steal and since most people use tablets for internet browsing/movies/gaming then buying this is a no brainer.
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You are supposed to stream all media from "the cloud" - no need for local storage.
But yes, a device without external storage sucks.
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BarryH_GEG said:
Assuming the components are equal or better than what Samsung used in the Note here's a list.
- A more modern and efficient CPU with 2/3 more memory bandwidth
- A GPU that's equal to the PowerVX used in the iPad
- 5GHz Wi-Fi with channel bonding that doubles throughput on routers that support it
- BT 4.0 with aptX
- USB 3.0
- A Samsung (vs. HannStar) sourced display with greater resolution
- Samsung RAM, NAND, and Exynos 5 has a dedicated IO controller
- Updates directly from Google as they're released
- Warranty support from Samsung
- A bootloader that's unlockable without voiding your warranty
- Huge dev support
I agree with you about not changing out a device you're happy with but going forward people that don't need the keyboard, expandable storage, or the extra battery life would be silly not to get a N10 at the same price or most likely less than the TF700. The price is rumored to be $399 for 32GB. If I didn't need/want the S-Pen and 3G my Note would be on CL.
Here’s a link detailing the Exynos 5250 and Mali T604
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6148/samsung-announces-a15malit604-based-exynos-5-dual
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If the price is <=$400 I'd actually highly consider selling my Infinity + keyboard + extended warranty (including drops). I don't find myself using the keyboard as much as I had thought.
I do think that the specs are a LOT better, and since it's a Nexus device I'm not worried about Samsung not sending out updates.

Here's the ports. There's no expandable storage.

I see now that it has miniHDMI out which is good. I'd have to play with it before making any sort of decision. I still prefer the Infinity though, it just has more options.

TF300 smoothness vs TF700

Just a little backstory, when the TF300 came out, I purchased one for my mom. Couple months later, TF700 came out so I picked that up for myself. Now as we all know, the TF700 has some sort of issue with the onboard flash memory which renders this tablet sluggish at times when reading/writing (like in the case of updating apps for example) but I think the TF300 is affected as well.
What I've noticed is, messing around on my mom's TF300, her tablet is butter smooth on stock firmware/rom. My TF700 was very sluggish when I installed JB firmware, which led me to having to go custom rom (CROMI 3.2 atm) in order to make it more usable. Has anyone else experienced the performance difference between a TF300 vs their TF700? It's just rather odd that a TF300, being of lower spec CPU wise, would run that much smoother than a TF700. Now CROMI has made my user experience much more pleasant, but still doesn't feel as smooth/fast as a lower end TF300.

The 10.4.4.25 update has resulted in a lot of people saying things perform much better overall for them now on the TF700T.
It would be good if someone can compare the 300 and 700 both with their latest stock ROM.

Darnell_Chat_TN said:
The 10.4.4.25 update has resulted in a lot of people saying things perform much better overall for them now on the TF700T.
It would be good if someone can compare the 300 and 700 both with their latest stock ROM.
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Ya I have the CROMI that is 10.4.4.25 based. It is smoother than previous versions, but still nowhere as smooth as TF300 on the latest firmware. I remember day 1, the TF300 had I/O lag just like the TF700, but that was quickly resolved and the tablet is very snappy.

Aria807 said:
Ya I have the CROMI that is 10.4.4.25 based. It is smoother than previous versions, but still nowhere as smooth as TF300 on the latest firmware. I remember day 1, the TF300 had I/O lag just like the TF700, but that was quickly resolved and the tablet is very snappy.
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Are you sure on this? I think it's an over statement "but still nowhere as smooth as TF300 on the latest firmware". Currently, I'm runing cromi on .25 with stock kernel, force gpu rendering enabled, all animation turn off and I thought that I don't think any tablets out there can go any faster or smoother!!

I compared side-by-side the TF300 JB to TF700 JB (both stock).
TF300 is much smoother in terms of animations, opening apps, screen rotation, etc. But it does have a smaller resolution which means less pixels to push

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I compared side-by-side the TF300 JB to TF700 JB (both stock).
TF300 is much smoother in terms of animations, opening apps, screen rotation, etc. But it does have a smaller resolution which means less pixels to push
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I agreed with you if they both stock, but not when I'm running cleanrom base .25 and with data2sd on sandisk card 95mb/s), I don't think any tablets can go near this beast!

I'm just having to go custom to get things running how they should be. @ the price point where the TF700 is at, I'd expect it to be better experience than the TF300. Makes me contemplate selling off my TF700 for a Nexus 7.

Aria807 said:
I'm just having to go custom to get things running how they should be. @ the price point where the TF700 is at, I'd expect it to be better experience than the TF300. Makes me contemplate selling off my TF700 for a Nexus 7.
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Oh yeah, I agreed with you 100% on this. With that kind of price tag, it performed very poorly and you probably right that a stock tf300 is out perform the stock tf700. However, I disagree with you that a stock tf300 would out perform the custom modded tf700.

Just want to confirm your observation. A stock TF300 is definitely faster than a stock TF700. The Full HD screen is one of the reasons to blame. With such resolution, a Snapdragon S4 Pro is a much better choice than Tegra 3, but unfortunately it was not available back then.

I would suspect anyone who feels the 700 is not smoother than the 300 after modding the 700. Is probably not using a newer one of the class 10 MicroSD cards, with the mod to leverage it for regular I/O instead of the internal storage. The 300 which has no MicroSD can't compete by default.
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But the TF300 does have a MicroSD slot.

htcplussony said:
But the TF300 does have a MicroSD slot.
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I thought it did, but before posting I thought I'd check and looked at this AnadTech Tablet Spec Comparison chart, where they fail to mention the MicroSD slot on the 300 .
OK, so then we'll leave it at the screen being the source of any perceived sluggishness. But I must say, the screen is one major reason why I went with the 700 instead of the 300. And I'm glad I did. For me, the screen makes a big difference. The tablet's performance is fine with me. And I'm still stock . (Only rooted, but bootloader is still locked.)
Just the same, I may unlock and tweak it up soon. I'm running out of internal storage space. So I'll probably pick up a Sandisk 64GB Class 10 soon. And when I do, I'll use Data 2 SD, to make the full 64GB my device storage space . I'll also load up CleanROM, I've even considered doing the CPU OC. Since I plan to keep this puppy another year and want to always feel I'm getting decent performance.
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Darnell_Chat_TN said:
I thought it did, but before posting I thought I'd check and looked at this AnadTech Tablet Spec Comparison chart, where they fail to mention the MicroSD slot on the 300 .
OK, so then we'll leave it at the screen being the source of any perceived sluggishness. But I must say, the screen is one major reason why I went with the 700 instead of the 300. And I'm glad I did. For me, the screen makes a big difference. The tablet's performance is fine with me. And I'm still stock . (Only rooted, but bootloader is still locked.)
Just the same, I may unlock and tweak it up soon. I'm running out of internal storage space. So I'll probably pick up a Sandisk 64GB Class 10 soon. And when I do, I'll use Data 2 SD, to make the full 64GB my device storage space . I'll also load up CleanROM, I've even considered doing the CPU OC. Since I plan to keep this puppy another year and want to always feel I'm getting decent performance.
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+1
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ray3andrei said:
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The tf300 does have a microsd slot. I use a 64gb uhs-1 and with a custom rom this thing flies. The screen just isnt as good as the tf700.

HorsexD said:
The tf300 does have a microsd slot. I use a 64gb uhs-1 and with a custom rom this thing flies. The screen just isnt as good as the tf700.
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I've owned the tf201 tf300 and now i have the infinity, and the screen on the infinity blows the tf300's out of the water, and it's also much brighter
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ray3andrei said:
I've owned the tf201 tf300 and now i have the infinity, and the screen on the infinity blows the tf300's out of the water, and it's also much brighter
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I can rely. I'm still surprised by the snappiness of my GF's TF300 when I pick her tablet up, but I always have trouble adapting to the much lower resolution. Seeing pixels doesn't suit me well

folkrav said:
I can rely. I'm still surprised by the snappiness of my GF's TF300 when I pick her tablet up, but I always have trouble adapting to the much lower resolution. Seeing pixels doesn't suit me well
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Hey watching a movie in SD and in HD is like watching it or NOT watching it. Oh yeah, it does make a different!!!

Darnell_Chat_TN said:
I would suspect anyone who feels the 700 is not smoother than the 300 after modding the 700. Is probably not using a newer one of the class 10 MicroSD cards, with the mod to leverage it for regular I/O instead of the internal storage. The 300 which has no MicroSD can't compete by default.
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Custom rom or not, the 300 is faster with apps like Mamereloaded and ePSX. Tegra 3 struggles pushing so many pixels.

I have a TF300, and it does contains a micro sd slot..
Darnell_Chat_TN said:
I would suspect anyone who feels the 700 is not smoother than the 300 after modding the 700. Is probably not using a newer one of the class 10 MicroSD cards, with the mod to leverage it for regular I/O instead of the internal storage. The 300 which has no MicroSD can't compete by default.
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zaki0saad said:
I have a TF300, and it does contains a micro sd slot..
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Yea, keep reading the past comments, we already covered that.
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[Q] Tf700 with Customer rom vs nexus 10

Just got a nexus 10 today.
This thing is fast
But I discovered that it lacks a micro SD slot.
I have tons of things on msd cards now.
So the debate is whether to switch to a tf700 which has decent resolution but at least the stock rom is ridiculously slow and laggy
Does anyone have any experience with both of these platforms?
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tazmeister said:
Just got a nexus 10 today.
This thing is fast
But I discovered that it lacks a micro SD slot.
I have tons of things on msd cards now.
So the debate is whether to switch to a tf700 which has decent resolution but at least the stock rom is ridiculously slow and laggy
Does anyone have any experience with both of these platforms?
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How much data you have on the microsd? what kind of data? movies/pictures? is it too big for your Nexus10 storage? Have you considered cloud storage? Nexus 10 is a better device minus the microsdcard.

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How much data you have on the microsd? what kind of data? movies/pictures? is it too big for your Nexus10 storage? Have you considered cloud storage? Nexus 10 is a better device minus the microsdcard.
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Indeed the Nexus is better because of the GPU, but the TF700 can easily reaach its performance when modded. Plus the TF700 has the keyboard dock and then it has 2 batteries, 1 MicroSD, and 1 SD slot.
Tylor
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I tried a Nexus 10 today which was totally stock and was surprised at how laggy and slow it was compared to CROMi-X

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I tried a Nexus 10 today which was totally stock and was surprised at how laggy and slow it was compared to CROMi-X
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Oh, stop it. Self-advertising is soooooo 2001.
J/K
But I'll be damned if a CROMI-X'ed 700 is not as good if not better than a stock Nexus 10...

The N10 can have all the speed it wants; without a MicroSD slot it will always be a lesser device.
I've tried the n10 on a display in Germany a few days ago. Aside from the frankly hideous shape, it was also nowhere near as 'gloriously fast' as people make it out to be.
My TF700 on stock next to it could keep up rather well, I imagine it's quite a bit faster on Cromix.
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I don't know how you guys testing the Nexus 10, but I'm using my cousin N10 and this thing is fast. The N10 will blow the tf700 fully modified and OC to the teeth out of the water in multitasking. Just imagine you running custom rom and OC kernel with this baby. Not to be bias I did some search for a review and it rated almost 5 stars everywhere, here are a few links:
http://www.omgchrome.com/nexus-10-review/
http://www.trustedreviews.com/google-nexus-10_Tablet_review
So it's not just me. Oh about the sdcard, my cousin, just use a mini USB to sdcard adapter ...may not look as pretty but pretty compact and does the job fine. Also it's not fair to compare an old hardware (ft700) to a new hardware (N10), but the fact it's definitely faster, better resolution and nicer to hold in my hand. Also the legginess possible from the Android JB 4.2.1 software, but not the N10 hardware. Once Google upgrade the software, you shouldn't see any lags anymore :good:

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I don't know how you guys testing the Nexus 10, but I'm using my cousin N10 and this thing is fast. The N10 will blow the tf700 fully modified and OC to the teeth out of the water in multitasking. Just imagine you running custom rom and OC kernel with this baby. Not to be bias I did some search for a review and it rated almost 5 stars everywhere, here are a few links:
http://www.omgchrome.com/nexus-10-review/
http://www.trustedreviews.com/google-nexus-10_Tablet_review
So it's not just me. Oh about the sdcard, my cousin, just use a mini USB to sdcard adapter ...may not look as pretty but pretty compact and does the job fine. Also it's not fair to compare an old hardware (ft700) to a new hardware (N10), but the fact it's definitely faster, better resolution and nicer to hold in my hand. Also the legginess possible from the Android JB 4.2.1 software, but not the N10 hardware. Once Google upgrade the software, you shouldn't see any lags anymore :good:
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I agree with you to certain degrees BUT, The nexus offers little features compared to a Transformer. The Transformer is plenty for every day use. I would only say go with a NEXUS if you want to game hard core. If you want more battery life, storage expandability, and a physical keyboard docking, go with the infinity. If you want more of a toy for playing games on, go for the Nexus, yet as buhohitr said, the Tranformers is getting to be a year old so it is kinda outdated. In my personal opinion, technology advances every 6 months. New and better things become available and it is just how it is. BUT, I still love my transformer and WOULD NOT get rid of it due to the simply fact of the keyboard. Have you ever tried typing a paper or report on a touchscreen????
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Tylorw1 said:
I agree with you to certain degrees BUT, The nexus offers little features compared to a Transformer. The Transformer is plenty for every day use. I would only say go with a NEXUS if you want to game hard core. If you want more battery life, storage expandability, and a physical keyboard docking, go with the infinity. If you want more of a toy for playing games on, go for the Nexus, yet as buhohitr said, the Tranformers is getting to be a year old so it is kinda outdated. In my personal opinion, technology advances every 6 months. New and better things become available and it is just how it is. BUT, I still love my transformer and WOULD NOT get rid of it due to the simply fact of the keyboard. Have you ever tried typing a paper or report on a touchscreen????
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Not to debate with you because you're right too, but I want to give everyone some of my takes. I no longer use the keyboard dock came with the tf700, why? because it's awkward, flip over all the time, specially on my lap. I purchased a separate mini stand (7$) and wireless keyboard/mouse (40$) and found it's working much better, I can have the board on my lap and move around very nicely. Also another note is when you pickup the tf700 while it docked you have to be careful to hold it right otherwise you may break the hinges, but again even on a flat surface, this thing kept flipping over all the time when it's in a angle and I tried to touch and hold to move/copy. If anyone never try a real mouse with the tf700 you should, it much faster and a lot easier to navigate, specially when browsing, just scroll the wheel on the mouse and save your arm from getting tired.

No Nexus device will have MicroSD in the foreseeable future. AFAIK, it's a deliberate option by Google, and unless it's changed Nexus devices will rely on internal memory.
Forgive my ignorance, does the Nexus 10 have a USB connector? Could you plug in a microSD reader? I have one that's little larger than a thumbnail. Not perfect, but it would take care of your problem.
That said, feel free to get yourself an Infinity I know many people complain about its lagginess and whatnot. It depends on your expectations and what you do with it. I can only say I'm rooted, locked and on stock 4.2.1 and am still very enthusiastic about it.

Reports for the nexus 11 suggest it will have micro SD
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Reports for the nexus 11 suggest it will have micro SD
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As if.
These were the same reports that had a leaked image of the new Note 3( with the serial number I9500(Which is the SGS4) and turned out to be a midrange phablet called the ZOPO ZP950), claimed that the Galaxy Tab 3 would have 1920x1080 resolution (which has already been announced as having a crappy 1280x800 res.) and that the Galaxy S4 would feature a flexible display. (Which it doesn't.)

So torn on what tablet to keep... N7 vs Infinity

So I've had my Infinity + Dock for almost 10 months now. While performance is good we can all relate to the I/O issues and laggyness of the device.
So recently decided to grab the Nexus 7 to give it a whirl. Really want to try the new one, but could be a few months away and so want to try something else affordable. So with that now, I've had my Nexus for just over a week now. It really is a solid piece of equipment then comes to really the differences.
I'm sure this has been beaten to death but...
Infinity +'s
Large Screen
1920x1200 (so nice)
mini HDMI out (it is a nice feature)
microSD Card Slot
Dock with more battery/SD Card slot
Very quick recharge of both tablet and dock.
Infinity's -'s
Weight (quiet heavy with the dock)
I/O issues (Yes I understand you can help it some what by using Data2SD... though still its an issue)
Size in hand (large tablets really aren't that user friendly in the hands)
Nexus 7 +'s
Small
Lightweight
Same Tegra 3 chip as Infinity
Google Product (little more support for the device)
Nexus 7 -'s
Less Battery
No SD Card Slot
Slower Recharge time
Might have more plus's for the Infinity, but just weighing at least my needs the Nexus 7 almost seems better. At this point im sad to say I might sell my Infinity off. I like the device but ever since I've gotten my Nexus 7 I haven't really touched the tablet except for showing a movie on my TV (first time actually). And now in comparison to my Nexus 7, and seeing how badly my Infinity lags with commands its amazing why I never noticed it this much before.
Might try a few more things here before making a true decision of what to keep and what to get rid of.
What ever happens in the future I hope Asus's next product fix the dang I/O issues and get some good speed to internal memory.
Has anyone else also been in my shoes?

I think you probably already know your answer to which tablet you want but looking for validation on it. Given you have found the 7'' to fit better in your hands and perform better for you, why keep the Infinity? You can buy a bt keyboard and external battery pack to give 1 or 2 extra charges if your out an about. You do lose the micro-SD slot but there are ways around storage limitations (cloud storage, usb card readers, wifi enabled external drives). If the tablet is not meeting your needs or expectations then move on. Sticking with it will leave the nagging lag issue in your mind and probably looking for it during use.
Since your manufacture warranty is almost up then you could try unlocking it for better performance.

Yeah I know. Just feel bad that a $250 tablet is crushing a $500 in performance using the same hardware and made by the same manufacture.
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The n7 has a different version of the tegra 3, the cheaper version. The infinity has a new version and can go to 1.7Ghz.
But more Ghz don't mean more smoothness. Also the infinity has more pixels so it needs more power.
If I was you, I would keep the infinity if you don't go out often and the n7 if you do.
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I actually debated what you are going through a few weeks ago and decided to sell my Infinity and Dock on eBay and keep my Nexus 7. I went out and bought a Logitech k810 (the typing experience is amazing and highly recommended) to replace my typing needs. I'll keep the Nexus 7 and wait until the next round of next generation 10 inch tablets are out, as nothing is really doing it for me at the moment, but liking the benchmark results that are coming out of the Tegra 4 and Snapdragon 800. Hopefully those live up to the benchmarks that we are seeing. I wouldn't mind going back with ASUS, but they seriously have to fix the I/O issues
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legendary1022 said:
I actually debated what you are going through a few weeks ago and decided to sell my Infinity and Dock on eBay and keep my Nexus 7. I went out and bought a Logitech k810 (the typing experience is amazing and highly recommended) to replace my typing needs. I'll keep the Nexus 7 and wait until the next round of next generation 10 inch tablets are out, as nothing is really doing it for me at the moment, but liking the benchmark results that are coming out of the Tegra 4 and Snapdragon 800. Hopefully those live up to the benchmarks that we are seeing. I wouldn't mind going back with ASUS, but they seriously have to fix the I/O issues
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That is ALL that IS really wrong with the infinity is the i/o. ASUS is stupid for not putting a better internal storage in this device. Actually, the N7 has newer parts than the Infinity, but newer does not always mean better. The only reason the N7 is so much smoother is the i/o, and ASUS is quite dumb for not putting a better internal storage in the Infinity. I am hoping for a new infinity, and if the i/o is not fixed, then I wont be going with it.
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Yeah the I/O just became too frustrating to deal with, even with CROMI. Having come from the Prime, I was hoping that issue would have been fixed. There are a ton of things that ASUS did right but the /O issue is just too difficult to overcome and the Nexus 7 runs circles around it because of it. I'm hoping Computex brings us some new hardware, especially a new high end Transformer.
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Don't see how it can be much faster than a cromi 4.6 tf700. Unless you are constantly downloading
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Running 4.5 right now. Going to do a full 100% write and try data2sd on it again them make a decision. Though might go small keep this and just see what comes out next.
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Deathman20 said:
Running 4.5 right now. Going to do a full 100% write and try data2sd on it again them make a decision. Though might go small keep this and just see what comes out next.
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I used to own a Nexus 7. I traded up for the ATI. I am running disabled fsync and no data2sd and the experience feels the same as the Nexus 7 to me.
I love the ATI so much better. My 32gb GN7 was running low on storage. Now, I have 96gb in my ATI. It's great that I can add another 64gb SD in the future with the dock.
Having a real keyboard is awesome!
The 2nd battery is icing on the cake.

Tylorw1 said:
That is ALL that IS really wrong with the infinity is the i/o. ASUS is stupid for not putting a better internal storage in this device. Actually, the N7 has newer parts than the Infinity, but newer does not always mean better. The only reason the N7 is so much smoother is the i/o, and ASUS is quite dumb for not putting a better internal storage in the Infinity. I am hoping for a new infinity, and if the i/o is not fixed, then I wont be going with it.
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True that is about all that is truly wrong with it. If the I/O was fixed I wouldn't even consider trading out. It does have a lot of nice features which is really hard to pass.
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I used to own a Nexus 7. I traded up for the ATI. I am running disabled fsync and no data2sd and the experience feels the same as the Nexus 7 to me.
I love the ATI so much better. My 32gb GN7 was running low on storage. Now, I have 96gb in my ATI. It's great that I can add another 64gb SD in the future with the dock.
Having a real keyboard is awesome!
The 2nd battery is icing on the cake.
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So your not running Data2SD? And you fell like it's the same? That's interesting. Guess maybe some tweaks is in store for me.
Yeah the limited storage stinks but did the kickstarter that has a micro SD/mini USB connection in one (really small) so expandability isn't an issue for me. Though I do support the 32GB + 64GB + 32GB cards on my ATI. It's nice to have the space that is for sure.
Man almost thinking of keeping both for now . What can you say I'm spoiled.
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Deathman20 said:
True that is about all that is truly wrong with it. If the I/O was fixed I wouldn't even consider trading out. It does have a lot of nice features which is really hard to pass.
So your not running Data2SD? And you fell like it's the same? That's interesting. Guess maybe some tweaks is in store for me.
Yeah the limited storage stinks but did the kickstarter that has a micro SD/mini USB connection in one (really small) so expandability isn't an issue for me. Though I do support the 32GB + 64GB + 32GB cards on my ATI. It's nice to have the space that is for sure.
Man almost thinking of keeping both for now . What can you say I'm spoiled.
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I have both right now, too
Asus should get rid of the mouse pad in the next gen keyboard dock to make room for a bigger battery.

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Asus should get rid of the mouse pad in the next gen keyboard dock to make room for a bigger battery.
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I'd love to see that myself. I barely use the mouse/track pad, and won't miss it if it's absent.
I'd also like to see an led backlit keyboard too.
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I have an Infinity and N7 as well. I try to make the N7 my main device, but i keep going back that big screen. I use my N7 for everything, except reading. I need my big screen to read my comics. Maybe i need glasses. But the N7 is so smooth. SOD is quite annoying. Even with cleanrom installed, my N7 is still more productive

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I have an Infinity and N7 as well. I try to make the N7 my main device, but i keep going back that big screen. I use my N7 for everything, except reading. I need my big screen to read my comics. Maybe i need glasses. But the N7 is so smooth. SOD is quite annoying. Even with cleanrom installed, my N7 is still more productive
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I dont understand how with CromiX everyone is getting SOD. I havent gotten in SoD in months. Have you tried doing a fresh install timrock? Wiping everything including internal storage? and again installing CromiX?
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I dont understand how with CromiX everyone is getting SOD. I havent gotten in SoD in months. Have you tried doing a fresh install timrock? Wiping everything including internal storage? and again installing CromiX?
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plenty of times. i just spent a whole weekend clean installing it because of kernel issue. Just got an SOD about a half hour ago.

Well thankfully I have never gotten a SOD on the device. Actually first time I've heard of the term.
Now had anyone else gotten the issue where say you try to turn on the screen and it doesn't go on or delays so long it times out on you just to repeat it? I've been getting that a lot more lately.
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My Nexus 7 feels much smoother than my TF700.
That being said, i've tried 2 different types of keyboards on the N7, bluetooth an wired (usb otg) and I keep coming back to the transformer.
The dock makes this device!
Since installing CromiX, i've found it a much better device.
I've now just removed a bunch of apps from startup and it is buzzing!

I can only tell from my own experience that:
1) IF you have a TF700 with perfect build quality
and 2) IF you are prepared to unlock
You will NOT be disappointed in this device.
However, it's also a question of how much you are willing to spend on a device. This one's nearly a year old
Maybe you could have a look at the Nexus 10, if that's available in your country?

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Well thankfully I have never gotten a SOD on the device. Actually first time I've heard of the term.
Now had anyone else gotten the issue where say you try to turn on the screen and it doesn't go on or delays so long it times out on you just to repeat it? I've been getting that a lot more lately.
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i believe that the SOD (sleep of death). Example, you are done using the tab and you just put it to sleep (not turn it off), you press the button to wake it, and it doesnt wake up. At least not right away. It either takes a while to wake, or you end up having to reset it. This is what happens to me on occasions.