So torn on what tablet to keep... N7 vs Infinity - Asus Transformer TF700

So I've had my Infinity + Dock for almost 10 months now. While performance is good we can all relate to the I/O issues and laggyness of the device.
So recently decided to grab the Nexus 7 to give it a whirl. Really want to try the new one, but could be a few months away and so want to try something else affordable. So with that now, I've had my Nexus for just over a week now. It really is a solid piece of equipment then comes to really the differences.
I'm sure this has been beaten to death but...
Infinity +'s
Large Screen
1920x1200 (so nice)
mini HDMI out (it is a nice feature)
microSD Card Slot
Dock with more battery/SD Card slot
Very quick recharge of both tablet and dock.
Infinity's -'s
Weight (quiet heavy with the dock)
I/O issues (Yes I understand you can help it some what by using Data2SD... though still its an issue)
Size in hand (large tablets really aren't that user friendly in the hands)
Nexus 7 +'s
Small
Lightweight
Same Tegra 3 chip as Infinity
Google Product (little more support for the device)
Nexus 7 -'s
Less Battery
No SD Card Slot
Slower Recharge time
Might have more plus's for the Infinity, but just weighing at least my needs the Nexus 7 almost seems better. At this point im sad to say I might sell my Infinity off. I like the device but ever since I've gotten my Nexus 7 I haven't really touched the tablet except for showing a movie on my TV (first time actually). And now in comparison to my Nexus 7, and seeing how badly my Infinity lags with commands its amazing why I never noticed it this much before.
Might try a few more things here before making a true decision of what to keep and what to get rid of.
What ever happens in the future I hope Asus's next product fix the dang I/O issues and get some good speed to internal memory.
Has anyone else also been in my shoes?

I think you probably already know your answer to which tablet you want but looking for validation on it. Given you have found the 7'' to fit better in your hands and perform better for you, why keep the Infinity? You can buy a bt keyboard and external battery pack to give 1 or 2 extra charges if your out an about. You do lose the micro-SD slot but there are ways around storage limitations (cloud storage, usb card readers, wifi enabled external drives). If the tablet is not meeting your needs or expectations then move on. Sticking with it will leave the nagging lag issue in your mind and probably looking for it during use.
Since your manufacture warranty is almost up then you could try unlocking it for better performance.

Yeah I know. Just feel bad that a $250 tablet is crushing a $500 in performance using the same hardware and made by the same manufacture.
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The n7 has a different version of the tegra 3, the cheaper version. The infinity has a new version and can go to 1.7Ghz.
But more Ghz don't mean more smoothness. Also the infinity has more pixels so it needs more power.
If I was you, I would keep the infinity if you don't go out often and the n7 if you do.
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I actually debated what you are going through a few weeks ago and decided to sell my Infinity and Dock on eBay and keep my Nexus 7. I went out and bought a Logitech k810 (the typing experience is amazing and highly recommended) to replace my typing needs. I'll keep the Nexus 7 and wait until the next round of next generation 10 inch tablets are out, as nothing is really doing it for me at the moment, but liking the benchmark results that are coming out of the Tegra 4 and Snapdragon 800. Hopefully those live up to the benchmarks that we are seeing. I wouldn't mind going back with ASUS, but they seriously have to fix the I/O issues
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legendary1022 said:
I actually debated what you are going through a few weeks ago and decided to sell my Infinity and Dock on eBay and keep my Nexus 7. I went out and bought a Logitech k810 (the typing experience is amazing and highly recommended) to replace my typing needs. I'll keep the Nexus 7 and wait until the next round of next generation 10 inch tablets are out, as nothing is really doing it for me at the moment, but liking the benchmark results that are coming out of the Tegra 4 and Snapdragon 800. Hopefully those live up to the benchmarks that we are seeing. I wouldn't mind going back with ASUS, but they seriously have to fix the I/O issues
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That is ALL that IS really wrong with the infinity is the i/o. ASUS is stupid for not putting a better internal storage in this device. Actually, the N7 has newer parts than the Infinity, but newer does not always mean better. The only reason the N7 is so much smoother is the i/o, and ASUS is quite dumb for not putting a better internal storage in the Infinity. I am hoping for a new infinity, and if the i/o is not fixed, then I wont be going with it.
Tylor
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Yeah the I/O just became too frustrating to deal with, even with CROMI. Having come from the Prime, I was hoping that issue would have been fixed. There are a ton of things that ASUS did right but the /O issue is just too difficult to overcome and the Nexus 7 runs circles around it because of it. I'm hoping Computex brings us some new hardware, especially a new high end Transformer.
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Don't see how it can be much faster than a cromi 4.6 tf700. Unless you are constantly downloading
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Running 4.5 right now. Going to do a full 100% write and try data2sd on it again them make a decision. Though might go small keep this and just see what comes out next.
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Deathman20 said:
Running 4.5 right now. Going to do a full 100% write and try data2sd on it again them make a decision. Though might go small keep this and just see what comes out next.
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I used to own a Nexus 7. I traded up for the ATI. I am running disabled fsync and no data2sd and the experience feels the same as the Nexus 7 to me.
I love the ATI so much better. My 32gb GN7 was running low on storage. Now, I have 96gb in my ATI. It's great that I can add another 64gb SD in the future with the dock.
Having a real keyboard is awesome!
The 2nd battery is icing on the cake.

Tylorw1 said:
That is ALL that IS really wrong with the infinity is the i/o. ASUS is stupid for not putting a better internal storage in this device. Actually, the N7 has newer parts than the Infinity, but newer does not always mean better. The only reason the N7 is so much smoother is the i/o, and ASUS is quite dumb for not putting a better internal storage in the Infinity. I am hoping for a new infinity, and if the i/o is not fixed, then I wont be going with it.
Tylor
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True that is about all that is truly wrong with it. If the I/O was fixed I wouldn't even consider trading out. It does have a lot of nice features which is really hard to pass.
Neo3D said:
I used to own a Nexus 7. I traded up for the ATI. I am running disabled fsync and no data2sd and the experience feels the same as the Nexus 7 to me.
I love the ATI so much better. My 32gb GN7 was running low on storage. Now, I have 96gb in my ATI. It's great that I can add another 64gb SD in the future with the dock.
Having a real keyboard is awesome!
The 2nd battery is icing on the cake.
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So your not running Data2SD? And you fell like it's the same? That's interesting. Guess maybe some tweaks is in store for me.
Yeah the limited storage stinks but did the kickstarter that has a micro SD/mini USB connection in one (really small) so expandability isn't an issue for me. Though I do support the 32GB + 64GB + 32GB cards on my ATI. It's nice to have the space that is for sure.
Man almost thinking of keeping both for now . What can you say I'm spoiled.
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Deathman20 said:
True that is about all that is truly wrong with it. If the I/O was fixed I wouldn't even consider trading out. It does have a lot of nice features which is really hard to pass.
So your not running Data2SD? And you fell like it's the same? That's interesting. Guess maybe some tweaks is in store for me.
Yeah the limited storage stinks but did the kickstarter that has a micro SD/mini USB connection in one (really small) so expandability isn't an issue for me. Though I do support the 32GB + 64GB + 32GB cards on my ATI. It's nice to have the space that is for sure.
Man almost thinking of keeping both for now . What can you say I'm spoiled.
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I have both right now, too
Asus should get rid of the mouse pad in the next gen keyboard dock to make room for a bigger battery.

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Asus should get rid of the mouse pad in the next gen keyboard dock to make room for a bigger battery.
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I'd love to see that myself. I barely use the mouse/track pad, and won't miss it if it's absent.
I'd also like to see an led backlit keyboard too.
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I have an Infinity and N7 as well. I try to make the N7 my main device, but i keep going back that big screen. I use my N7 for everything, except reading. I need my big screen to read my comics. Maybe i need glasses. But the N7 is so smooth. SOD is quite annoying. Even with cleanrom installed, my N7 is still more productive

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I have an Infinity and N7 as well. I try to make the N7 my main device, but i keep going back that big screen. I use my N7 for everything, except reading. I need my big screen to read my comics. Maybe i need glasses. But the N7 is so smooth. SOD is quite annoying. Even with cleanrom installed, my N7 is still more productive
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I dont understand how with CromiX everyone is getting SOD. I havent gotten in SoD in months. Have you tried doing a fresh install timrock? Wiping everything including internal storage? and again installing CromiX?
Tylor
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Tylorw1 said:
I dont understand how with CromiX everyone is getting SOD. I havent gotten in SoD in months. Have you tried doing a fresh install timrock? Wiping everything including internal storage? and again installing CromiX?
Tylor
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plenty of times. i just spent a whole weekend clean installing it because of kernel issue. Just got an SOD about a half hour ago.

Well thankfully I have never gotten a SOD on the device. Actually first time I've heard of the term.
Now had anyone else gotten the issue where say you try to turn on the screen and it doesn't go on or delays so long it times out on you just to repeat it? I've been getting that a lot more lately.
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My Nexus 7 feels much smoother than my TF700.
That being said, i've tried 2 different types of keyboards on the N7, bluetooth an wired (usb otg) and I keep coming back to the transformer.
The dock makes this device!
Since installing CromiX, i've found it a much better device.
I've now just removed a bunch of apps from startup and it is buzzing!

I can only tell from my own experience that:
1) IF you have a TF700 with perfect build quality
and 2) IF you are prepared to unlock
You will NOT be disappointed in this device.
However, it's also a question of how much you are willing to spend on a device. This one's nearly a year old
Maybe you could have a look at the Nexus 10, if that's available in your country?

Deathman20 said:
Well thankfully I have never gotten a SOD on the device. Actually first time I've heard of the term.
Now had anyone else gotten the issue where say you try to turn on the screen and it doesn't go on or delays so long it times out on you just to repeat it? I've been getting that a lot more lately.
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i believe that the SOD (sleep of death). Example, you are done using the tab and you just put it to sleep (not turn it off), you press the button to wake it, and it doesnt wake up. At least not right away. It either takes a while to wake, or you end up having to reset it. This is what happens to me on occasions.

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Tf 101 or Nexus 7

Hello,
i have the options to chose between these 2. nexus 7 or tf101. prices are exactly the same and the 101 comes with the dock, card and some bag.
ive played with it for a while i find it a little bit laggy to be honest but overall i see it as a good product. on the other hand never touched the nexus 7 so i have no clue how it is.
i know that depends on what exactly i wanna do with the table but i would appreciate some pro/cons from the ppl that owns them.
thank you
jargalus said:
Hello,
i have the options to chose between these 2. nexus 7 or tf101. prices are exactly the same and the 101 comes with the dock, card and some bag.
ive played with it for a while i find it a little bit laggy to be honest but overall i see it as a good product. on the other hand never touched the nexus 7 so i have no clue how it is.
i know that depends on what exactly i wanna do with the table but i would appreciate some pro/cons from the ppl that owns them.
thank you
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How come you are getting these 2 devices at the same price
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a friend of mine is selling the 101 and he is offering me this good price. the tablet is almost brand new.
jargalus said:
Hello,
i have the options to chose between these 2. nexus 7 or tf101. prices are exactly the same and the 101 comes with the dock, card and some bag.
ive played with it for a while i find it a little bit laggy to be honest but overall i see it as a good product. on the other hand never touched the nexus 7 so i have no clue how it is.
i know that depends on what exactly i wanna do with the table but i would appreciate some pro/cons from the ppl that owns them.
thank you
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Nexus 7 by a country mile. I own both, the TF101 is horrendously laggy and is probably not receiving Jelly Bean. You can still connect a bluetooth/usb keyboard to the Nexus if you need to, along with any other accessories. The main plus side of the TF101 is the extended battery life, but it wasn't that much of a big deal for me.
Have the TF101 and played with the Nexus , Nexus 7 is smooth and fast but that 7inch screen is just to small for a tablet.
i'm trying to get rid of my TF101 for the Nexus 7.
like others are saying, it's laggy (on stock). although i rooted the TF101 to put JellyBean on it, and it's pretty good so far.
don't forget you get micro sd expansion on top of the 16gb/32gb on the tf101 + additional sd card slot, 2 usb port and battery on the dock. i guess it on depends what you need, the nexus will give you continuous OS updates before other tablets and it is more portable and newer.
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Nexus 7 by a country mile. I own both, the TF101 is horrendously laggy and is probably not receiving Jelly Bean. You can still connect a bluetooth/usb keyboard to the Nexus if you need to, along with any other accessories. The main plus side of the TF101 is the extended battery life, but it wasn't that much of a big deal for me.
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I'm pretty sure JB is being officially ported to the TF101.
Personally I say go with the TF101 just because it comes with a keyboard and some sort of pouch or case. The Nexus 7 is small for a tablet, but is faster. You can root the TF101 and install a JB ROM like CM10 or RaymanFX's AOSP or TeamEOS (correct me if I'm wrong).
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You can root the TF101 and install a JB ROM like CM10 or RaymanFX's AOSP or TeamEOS (correct me if I'm wrong).
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i am running RaymanFX's AOSP JellyBean on my TF101 and yes, it runs much better than stock. carrying around the TF101+dock is like carrying around a netbook. as soon as i find a buyer, i'm' getting myself the N7.
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i am running RaymanFX's AOSP JellyBean on my TF101 and yes, it runs much better than stock. carrying around the TF101+dock is like carrying around a netbook. as soon as i find a buyer, i'm' getting myself the N7.
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Yeah you're right it is like a Netbook but you are sacrificing screen size for performance. In my opinion, screen will always take precedence, but to each their own. I am also debating a N7 so if you get one could you tell me how it is? It might be one of those devices which I can make an exception to my opinion.
I just went through this exact same debate. I wanted something to take on the road with me when I travel. I wanted access to word, excel, and powerpoint too. I debated and debated. The Nexus 7 kept tugging, but a few factors sold me on the TF101.
Pro-Transformer:
Expandable memory - I dropped a 32gb card in right away. I also have the card reader on the dock for emergencies.
Keyboard - bluetooth keyboards are all well and good, but they don't come with several extra hours of battery life.
HDMI out - I can run this into a monitor/HDTV and make presentations with it. Very convenient.
Pro-Nexus:
Processor - Tegra3 vs Tegra2. That's all I'll say.
Portability - 7" is very convenient for traveling.
Software - you know the updates are coming.
Overall, the Nexus pro's couldn't sway me. It all comes down to what your personal needs are. Get your legal pad, make your list, and be happy with your decision.
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Nexus 7 . My brother has both. N7 for the win
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sell me the dock will you?
Go for the TF101. It is older, but better. I might say N7 if it had an external MicroSD slot.
TF101 is better, go for the TF.
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Tf101 with overclocked Jelly Bean is not laggy folks. Think outside of the stock rom
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First if all thank you all for your replies.
I have dicided to go for the tf. Just played with the 7 inch tablet from samsung and I got to say..... It's small. I have htc one x so if I buy the nexus ill add only 2 inch to my display if u know what I mean. On the other hand tf have some great thinks that comes in the package. I get the keyboard the sdcards and the extra inch comparing with my phone. And since everybody is saying that jb on tf is very fast I solve the speed difference. The only thing left is the 1080 movies that the tf is not able to.play from my understanding. Is this true?
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Should i get TF700

Hey there guys
I'm confused if i should opt for this tab
i heard many games appear blurry, apps looked stretched?So thats kinda bad, that apps cant make use of the 1080p so should i get this tab?
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You should have placed this thread elsewhere
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Yes i posted here by mistake , i opened two tabs one of this and Q & A thought this was q & A
sorry
MODS please move this
Go get your hands on one at Best Buy and check it out.
Don't forget to compare it with other tabs while you're there. The infinity is notorious for being slow.
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R0CKSTAR3N3RGY said:
Go get your hands on one at Best Buy and check it out.
Don't forget to compare it with other tabs while you're there. The infinity is notorious for being slow.
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I can't try any tablets out, cause they din't release in India still now,nexus 7 might come out next month,,,but might be overpriced here :/
Actually i'm asking my uncle whose in USA to get this for me, and only Asus tablets have international warranty
If nexus 7 comes out with 32 gigs ill get that then.
The newest tablets I can compare for you is this and the GNote 10.1
GNote 10.1 runs faster and the s-pen is great
TF700 is a bit laggier but amazing res and yes, a lot of apps aren't that great for 1080p
But we know apps will be
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Lets ignore the higher than average build quality issues, since you can just pick a place that will let you return many times until you get one without visual hardware flaws. (make sure you do that.. pick a place with a good return policy)
I am seriously disappointed in this tablet. (it's my second one) It's really slow and really choppy. I would NOT spend my own money on this device. But that's your decision to make. I shouldn't have to unlock and void my warranty to make my tablet work at an "almost" acceptable level. Running Cleanrom 1.0 makes the tablet way better, but still nowhere near the level an expensive device should be at. I'll try Cleanrom 2.1 tonight.
When I say really slow and choppy, this isn't even with games or items that really tax the resources. This is while using things like Pulse reader.. or pretty much anything that has to scroll or requires multiple touch actions in a row. like open email, scroll to bottom to check something, and press delete all in pretty quick succession. You have to pretty much pause between each screen touch so the tablet can keep up or you get "Application Not Responding". This is likely related to the poor I/O. (my 2 year old phone, and 2 year old ACER dont have this issue)
I helped out a previous employer and was given this tablet as a gift.. I keep it because depending on how you look at it, it wasn't really my hard earned cash that paid for it. I'm sure there are many people out there who love their tablet... But compared to my much older and much lower spec Acer A500 this thing sucks. If you dont NEED the keyboard.. try the Acer A700 instead.
The screen on the TF700 is very nice (the serious light bleed is only really noticeable at start-up). I have had no issues with blurriness or general ugliness. Obviously with the high resolution things must scale and any applications built with low quality graphics will be fuzzy when scaled. This is not an issue with the tablet, but rather with the App developer. Any high res screen will have the same issues until all app devs convert to higher quality graphics.
After dealing with my friends terrible TF201 (prime) and now this TF700 (2 of them).. Which proves ASUS is either not capable of fixing the performance issues, or simply doesn't care. Either way it will take a lot for me to throw any cash toward ASUS in the future.
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Okay, but so so many people say tf700 is really good, Wont JB make it better?
or am i better of getting nexus 7 32 gig + OTG to add my external HDD.
I would love to get the note 10.1, but sadly it doesnt have a international warranty.. and i makes no sense getting it from India as its around 40,000rs(800$)
So,i'll be getting either T700 or Nexus 7 or yea ipad mini(though am not intrested in apples products).
Honestly, i don't know why so many people say bad things about this tablet. No device is perfect, they all have their flaws... you just have to choose which ones are most important to you. Since I've gotten this tablet I've experienced nothing but good things... apps and games are fine and will only get better. Speed is fine with the browser2ram apk installed... and the look and feel of this thing is just amazing. Don't let all the negative comments here mislead you. I was worried when I bought this tablet then came here to read only negative things, but after taking the leap of faith I have no regrets.
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Okay, but so so many people say tf700 is really good, Wont JB make it better?
or am i better of getting nexus 7 32 gig + OTG to add my external HDD.
I would love to get the note 10.1, but sadly it doesnt have a international warranty.. and i makes no sense getting it from India as its around 40,000rs(800$)
So,i'll be getting either T700 or Nexus 7 or yea ipad mini(though am not intrested in apples products).
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No don't get it.
Why?
Because if you can't get rid of it easily after being disappointed then there you are.
Stuck with it...
...unless your not too worried about having a problematic tablet.
Well. i agree with all your point's.
Acer and 2-3 more compaines are coming out with 1080p tabs + htc butterfly which is a 1080p phablet.
So, i assume all these "might" lead to a quality full HD app's?
And does the nexus 7 support OTG
Great now i find out it has dead pixel issues :/
I think it's a good investment. I love the **** out of my Inifnity. Yes, there are some QC issues like light bleed (very little in my case) and screen adhesive issues (again, very little for me) but I still think the price is justified. This is why stores have return policies.The best thing a consumer can do in this case, is to give the company as much feedback as possible. The majority of consumers don't realize how much influence they really have. Even the iPad has issues like these. Granted, Apple customer support is probably a lot more responsive. I still think people should not go into the tablet market, being so young as it is, and expect perfection.
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I wouldn't recommend this tablet. I have had it since it launched and I waited too long to return it.I waited for JB to be released on it. It ran ok with ICS but now that it has JB its pretty sluggish and choppy compared to other tablets in the Transformer line that run JB(which was a huge letdown considering the hardware in this thing). And as of now, there nothing optimized for its 1080p screen. This tablet is just a little too far ahead of its time. If i could make any recommendation, I would say wait until the Nexus 10 is released.
Yea nexus 10 will be too late(and probably when it comes out i wont be able to get it, cause next year my uncle might not come down to india).. now i'm looking into nexus 7,ipad mini and ipad 3 :/
theserpent said:
Well. i agree with all your point's.
Acer and 2-3 more compaines are coming out with 1080p tabs + htc butterfly which is a 1080p phablet.
So, i assume all these "might" lead to a quality full HD app's?
And does the nexus 7 support OTG
Great now i find out it has dead pixel issues :/
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Acer already makes an HD tablet.
That would be the A700...take it from me a former owner.
Don`t go there either.
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so No to ASUS TF700?
Won't custom roms make it better
I say yes if it would be easy to return after buying.
Doesn't sound as though it would be easy for you to return if you had problems.
I would recommend the Infinity with reservations.
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I'l keep this tab on hold
I'll look into ipad mini too
BTW does nexus 7 support OTG,so i can connect my USB drive or HDD
Might be good to check the Nexus forum here at XDA.
From what I read OTG may not be fully supported (read only)
Would you by any chance consider the Windows Surface as an alternative?

[Q] Get rid of the Infinity?

I am awaiting the arrival of a brand new ASUS Transformer TF700.I have read almost 90% of the issues,pros and cons with this tablet.This has thrown me for a loop and as an IT student I don't think one should have to be on a constant lookout for such an expensive item.Fortunately for me the tablet comes with a 14day return for money .I am not even going to open it,I am thinking of replacing it with the NEXUS 10. I am really afraid of taking a chance with such a tablet that can go defective at any time.There is no telling just how good the NEXUS 10 is,but from initial reports its better than gambling on the Infinity.What are your views on this ? Is the Infinity worth the stress ?
If you don't want the Infinity than get the Nexus. They are two different products for different purposes and use cases.
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It is all a matter of personal preference.
I owned the Infinity for 3 months before selling it. During that time, I exchanged it twice thinking I kept getting a defective tablet, because each one was slow, sluggish and had the occasional screen flicker. Not to mention the bad I/O. Another thing that bothered me is, most of the apps I used, and games I played, even YouTube, looked really washed out. I kept it until the JB update to see if it would make the tablet any better, but it didn't(to me anyway it felt more sluggish after). From day one of owning the tablet, I tried pretty hard to convince myself that I like the tablet, but after a while I gave up, and decided to sell it.
I bought the Nexus 10 when it launched, and from the moment I got it, I loved it. It's smooth, it's fast, the screen is awesome, and it feels real comfortable to hold. The front facing stereo speakers are also pretty cool, they sound great, and they can get pretty loud. All the apps that I used on the Infinity look way better on the Nexus 10.
This is just my personal opinion and preference though. It all depends on what you are going to use it for, and what you prefer.
I have owned the tf700 for about a month.
This is a fact. The read/write speed to the internal flash is really slow. To overcome this problem you will need to unlock and install a custom ROM/APKs. This will void your warranty.
It's not that the tf700 is unusable with slow flash IO, instead it makes the user experience so very aggravating.
I am going to get the ASUS TF700T for the holidays. In 8 days to be more precise. I can't wait. I am a big techie and want flash some custom stuff to it.
Also waiting for Nexus 10 to come to my country and most probably its bye bye to my infinity then.
User experience just isnt what it should be. I also have ipad and even if I hate itunes and iOS I must say that the performance is so much better. And I am talking about the very first ipad.
You could think that there is something very badly wrong with Android but I also own Samsung Note 2 and there the performance is perfect. Also what i have tried some Samsung tablets they are smooth also. I just dont want lo-res screen on tablet so will try Nexus 10
The nexus 10 has pretty much the same issues. But everyone's so busy drooling over it they forget to read the Nexus 10 forum and see that there's hardly any improvement.
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The nexus 10 has pretty much the same issues. But everyone's so busy drooling over it they forget to read the Nexus 10 forum and see that there's hardly any improvement.
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I just got a nexus 10 and a week old tf700 and the user experience on the n10 is far better than the tf700. Everything just works and hardly any lag. I'm not sure how an unlocked tf700 compares though. Where the n10 fails for me is the lower contrast level of the n10. Black arent as black either. And the lack of kb with extended battery. I'm not sure which to keep.
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Thanks ..I like the expandability of the Asus Infinity,and as you rightly said its preference.I will have to do without the Infinity,and hope the Nexus 10 can deliver over the future problems it just might have.After all the Nexus10 has flaws as well
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I am going to get the ASUS TF700T for the holidays. In 8 days to be more precise. I can't wait. I am a big techie and want flash some custom stuff to it.
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I wish you good luck with it,just find its too expensive for me to risk bricking it.I' ll let you know my experience with the Nexus 10
I appreciate that so much as I 'm going to get the NEXUS 10 16gig as its all I can afford.Just worried about the lack of expandability,and no card slot.Guess I'll make do with it somehow.I love games movies and music...16gigs is nothing close to that enjoyment.
Tf700 lags,lags,restarts, since made jump from ics to jb. Good luck....
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DARK SIDE said:
Tf700 lags,lags,restarts, since made jump from ics to jb. Good luck....
I thought it was just me that thought the tf700 was not all it's advertised to be. Whatever browser I use seems slower than it should be and seems to force close too often.The biggest irritation is that I can't keep the email working. I have MS Outlook on my PC and used that to put email on my Razr Maxx and rooted Nook tablet and they work fine. On tf700 it either doesnt work at all or works a day or 2 then all emails disappear. Sometimes it will load a few msg then as soon as I read one all the rest disappear. I have uninsalled, reinstalled several times and even tried to install it using K-9 mail. Nothing works. Is mine a lemon or an I just doing something dumb? I just know enough to be dangerous!
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I got the tf700t yesterday i see what lag urtlking about but honestly it rlly does seem better unlocked with custom rom w/out not very good.... i didnt get any sods or RRs yet everything seems fine the batteey life is better than expected im not sure how the n10 is but the 700 isnt bad, the keyboard is pricey seems..... JUST MY EARLY OPINION
Btw edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33431910. I heard this works very well
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Brooklynsour said:
I got the tf700t yesterday i see what lag urtlking about but honestly it rlly does seem better unlocked with custom rom w/out not very good.... i didnt get any sods or RRs yet everything seems fine the batteey life is better than expected im not sure how the n10 is but the 700 isnt bad, the keyboard is pricey seems..... JUST MY EARLY OPINION
Btw edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33431910. I heard this works very well
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I assumed you unlocked yours? I haven't seen any complaint yet with an unlocked 700 so it must be the best solution for the lag.
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The alarm clock doesn't even work.. gl trying to get up for work in the morning
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lesonal said:
The alarm clock doesn't even work.. gl trying to get up for work in the morning
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So get an app for it. Or buy a proper alarm clock.... It's still tech, faults happen...
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I assumed you unlocked yours? I haven't seen any complaint yet with an unlocked 700 so it must be the best solution for the lag.
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Honestly I don't know why I bother to respond to a thread like this, but the TF700 Infinity is the best tablet available, bar none, once you have unlocked and flashed a custom ROM/kernel. The best one for performance, smoothness, speed and stability is without doubt CleanROM Inheritance v2.7 with Clemsyn's oc kernel (gpu oc to 700). With a few additional tweaks available during ROM installation, nothing out now comes close to the Infinity. It's worth jettisoning ASUS warranty to unlock the goodness.
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Honestly I don't know why I bother to respond to a thread like this, but the TF700 Infinity is the best tablet available, bar none, once you have unlocked and flashed a custom ROM/kernel. The best one for performance, smoothness, speed and stability is without doubt CleanROM Inheritance v2.7 with Clemsyn's oc kernel (gpu oc to 700). With a few additional tweaks available during ROM installation, nothing out now comes close to the Infinity. It's worth jettisoning ASUS warranty to unlock the goodness.
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Any info helps man and thank you. I'm stuck between my n10 and tf700 right now so I'm really concerned that unlocking wont make it on par with the N10. Dull screen and no kb dock is the only thing steering me away from the n10 but performance is awesome. But I might have a hard time reselling an unlocked tf700 or I'll probably have to take a major los$. Christmas time rolling around so I have to support my hobby and xmas $hopping the best I can =)
An unlocked infinity is by far the best thing you can find. The community has offered a lot to this machine that Asus just couldn't. Laggy Internet are you kidding..? With browser2ram outperforms my pc. 870 on browsermark bench. Yes the io issue is there its poor hardware but we have come a long way since stock now you can't even notice it. This think now flyes. Plus dock plus amazing screen that you can actually see outdoors. N10 or ipad come out in the sun and play.. No way..
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[Q] Tf700 with Customer rom vs nexus 10

Just got a nexus 10 today.
This thing is fast
But I discovered that it lacks a micro SD slot.
I have tons of things on msd cards now.
So the debate is whether to switch to a tf700 which has decent resolution but at least the stock rom is ridiculously slow and laggy
Does anyone have any experience with both of these platforms?
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tazmeister said:
Just got a nexus 10 today.
This thing is fast
But I discovered that it lacks a micro SD slot.
I have tons of things on msd cards now.
So the debate is whether to switch to a tf700 which has decent resolution but at least the stock rom is ridiculously slow and laggy
Does anyone have any experience with both of these platforms?
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How much data you have on the microsd? what kind of data? movies/pictures? is it too big for your Nexus10 storage? Have you considered cloud storage? Nexus 10 is a better device minus the microsdcard.
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How much data you have on the microsd? what kind of data? movies/pictures? is it too big for your Nexus10 storage? Have you considered cloud storage? Nexus 10 is a better device minus the microsdcard.
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Indeed the Nexus is better because of the GPU, but the TF700 can easily reaach its performance when modded. Plus the TF700 has the keyboard dock and then it has 2 batteries, 1 MicroSD, and 1 SD slot.
Tylor
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I tried a Nexus 10 today which was totally stock and was surprised at how laggy and slow it was compared to CROMi-X
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I tried a Nexus 10 today which was totally stock and was surprised at how laggy and slow it was compared to CROMi-X
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Oh, stop it. Self-advertising is soooooo 2001.
J/K
But I'll be damned if a CROMI-X'ed 700 is not as good if not better than a stock Nexus 10...
The N10 can have all the speed it wants; without a MicroSD slot it will always be a lesser device.
I've tried the n10 on a display in Germany a few days ago. Aside from the frankly hideous shape, it was also nowhere near as 'gloriously fast' as people make it out to be.
My TF700 on stock next to it could keep up rather well, I imagine it's quite a bit faster on Cromix.
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I don't know how you guys testing the Nexus 10, but I'm using my cousin N10 and this thing is fast. The N10 will blow the tf700 fully modified and OC to the teeth out of the water in multitasking. Just imagine you running custom rom and OC kernel with this baby. Not to be bias I did some search for a review and it rated almost 5 stars everywhere, here are a few links:
http://www.omgchrome.com/nexus-10-review/
http://www.trustedreviews.com/google-nexus-10_Tablet_review
So it's not just me. Oh about the sdcard, my cousin, just use a mini USB to sdcard adapter ...may not look as pretty but pretty compact and does the job fine. Also it's not fair to compare an old hardware (ft700) to a new hardware (N10), but the fact it's definitely faster, better resolution and nicer to hold in my hand. Also the legginess possible from the Android JB 4.2.1 software, but not the N10 hardware. Once Google upgrade the software, you shouldn't see any lags anymore :good:
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I don't know how you guys testing the Nexus 10, but I'm using my cousin N10 and this thing is fast. The N10 will blow the tf700 fully modified and OC to the teeth out of the water in multitasking. Just imagine you running custom rom and OC kernel with this baby. Not to be bias I did some search for a review and it rated almost 5 stars everywhere, here are a few links:
http://www.omgchrome.com/nexus-10-review/
http://www.trustedreviews.com/google-nexus-10_Tablet_review
So it's not just me. Oh about the sdcard, my cousin, just use a mini USB to sdcard adapter ...may not look as pretty but pretty compact and does the job fine. Also it's not fair to compare an old hardware (ft700) to a new hardware (N10), but the fact it's definitely faster, better resolution and nicer to hold in my hand. Also the legginess possible from the Android JB 4.2.1 software, but not the N10 hardware. Once Google upgrade the software, you shouldn't see any lags anymore :good:
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I agree with you to certain degrees BUT, The nexus offers little features compared to a Transformer. The Transformer is plenty for every day use. I would only say go with a NEXUS if you want to game hard core. If you want more battery life, storage expandability, and a physical keyboard docking, go with the infinity. If you want more of a toy for playing games on, go for the Nexus, yet as buhohitr said, the Tranformers is getting to be a year old so it is kinda outdated. In my personal opinion, technology advances every 6 months. New and better things become available and it is just how it is. BUT, I still love my transformer and WOULD NOT get rid of it due to the simply fact of the keyboard. Have you ever tried typing a paper or report on a touchscreen????
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Tylorw1 said:
I agree with you to certain degrees BUT, The nexus offers little features compared to a Transformer. The Transformer is plenty for every day use. I would only say go with a NEXUS if you want to game hard core. If you want more battery life, storage expandability, and a physical keyboard docking, go with the infinity. If you want more of a toy for playing games on, go for the Nexus, yet as buhohitr said, the Tranformers is getting to be a year old so it is kinda outdated. In my personal opinion, technology advances every 6 months. New and better things become available and it is just how it is. BUT, I still love my transformer and WOULD NOT get rid of it due to the simply fact of the keyboard. Have you ever tried typing a paper or report on a touchscreen????
Tylor
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Not to debate with you because you're right too, but I want to give everyone some of my takes. I no longer use the keyboard dock came with the tf700, why? because it's awkward, flip over all the time, specially on my lap. I purchased a separate mini stand (7$) and wireless keyboard/mouse (40$) and found it's working much better, I can have the board on my lap and move around very nicely. Also another note is when you pickup the tf700 while it docked you have to be careful to hold it right otherwise you may break the hinges, but again even on a flat surface, this thing kept flipping over all the time when it's in a angle and I tried to touch and hold to move/copy. If anyone never try a real mouse with the tf700 you should, it much faster and a lot easier to navigate, specially when browsing, just scroll the wheel on the mouse and save your arm from getting tired.
No Nexus device will have MicroSD in the foreseeable future. AFAIK, it's a deliberate option by Google, and unless it's changed Nexus devices will rely on internal memory.
Forgive my ignorance, does the Nexus 10 have a USB connector? Could you plug in a microSD reader? I have one that's little larger than a thumbnail. Not perfect, but it would take care of your problem.
That said, feel free to get yourself an Infinity I know many people complain about its lagginess and whatnot. It depends on your expectations and what you do with it. I can only say I'm rooted, locked and on stock 4.2.1 and am still very enthusiastic about it.
Reports for the nexus 11 suggest it will have micro SD
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Reports for the nexus 11 suggest it will have micro SD
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As if.
These were the same reports that had a leaked image of the new Note 3( with the serial number I9500(Which is the SGS4) and turned out to be a midrange phablet called the ZOPO ZP950), claimed that the Galaxy Tab 3 would have 1920x1080 resolution (which has already been announced as having a crappy 1280x800 res.) and that the Galaxy S4 would feature a flexible display. (Which it doesn't.)

Next Transformer - it has the RAM we needed!

http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/3/43...-infinity-with-2560-x-1600-display/in/4154433
I've always blamed the TF700's lag on too little RAM. Glad to see the next version has double the memory.
I'll wish I had it, but fortunately there's CleanROM for mine.
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http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/3/43...-infinity-with-2560-x-1600-display/in/4154433
I've always blamed the TF700's lag on too little RAM. Glad to see the next version has double the memory.
I'll wish I had it, but fortunately there's CleanROM for mine.
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I dont think RAM was really a big issue for the Infinity. What really needs fixed is the i/o. When folks start purchasing the new Transformer, and if it dont have better i/o, I will definitely probably go with a different tablet.
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I think I'll get one. CleanRom Inheritance Xenogenesis Infinity Renewal here we come! When is it supposed to come out?
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I think I'll get one. CleanRom Inheritance Xenogenesis Infinity Renewal here we come! When is it supposed to come out?
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With that nickname you're going to need a new abbreviation for the abbreviation. (This makes me have flashbacks to my time in the military, LOL!.) And you're well on your way to get at least an honourable mention for the longest ROM name in human history.
Also, I won't be able to download your ROM anymore because of the maximum path length under Windows.
Double RAM isn't going to do a bloody thing if they keep using the crap ones..
I still have 460MB RAM free right now, so why would more RAM make a difference if it lags even with free RAM?
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Double RAM isn't going to do a bloody thing if they keep using the crap ones..
I still have 460MB RAM free right now, so why would more RAM make a difference if it lags even with free RAM?
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+1, exactly
More ram would be nice, though our tf700 did not necessarily need it
Some of us have less ram on our phones and they handle apps updating just fine.
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More ram would be nice for multi-tasking applications. My phone is crap for having free ram, but my tablet I have plenty, and it has the same amount of ram.
Really thinking about getting this tablet, can't hurt to have USB3.0, larger battery, higher res screen, and well new CPU/GPU at least. Though the I/O issue has to be fixed.
Quite a few reports about the extreme power drain from Teg4. Apparently not yet harnessed at all
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Quite a few reports about the extreme power drain from Teg4. Apparently not yet harnessed at all
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Have a link? I'll wait till the guys over at Ars give us a breakdown of the chip before getting too worried. I'm just worried about the I/O of the device. We've seen the benchmarks of Tegra 4 paired with a fast SSD in the reference tablet, so hopefully we see something similar.
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Double the ram means nothing. As others above stated, i/o is the real issue. Faster memory and a better bus are what Asus really needs.
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I think I'll get one. CleanRom Inheritance Xenogenesis Infinity Renewal here we come! When is it supposed to come out?
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I'm already looking to sell my tf700 in order to get the new transformer and I've only owned the tf700 for 93days
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More ram would be nice for multi-tasking applications. My phone is crap for having free ram, but my tablet I have plenty, and it has the same amount of ram.
Really thinking about getting this tablet, can't hurt to have USB3.0, larger battery, higher res screen, and well new CPU/GPU at least. Though the I/O issue has to be fixed.
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Naturally they should update the dock over time but I thought they were moving toward a universal dock for their products? I'd hate to buy a new tablet and then have to buy a new keyboard dock.
It's not as if I can afford a new tablet, anyway.
(certainly not as I already intent to buy a Note 3.)
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I'm disappointed they didnt include speakers on the dock. Would have been a good feture
I wonder if there will be a version with the Tegra4's optional LTE modem...
And I wonder if the Linux OSS Grate driver will work on Tegra4 as well as 2/3. Hmmm.
If the dock has a usb3.0 usb port and the bad I/O of the tf700 effects the data transfer speeds between devices via cable. Then wouldn't it make sense for the I/O in the new 2013 transformer to be improved in order to fully utalize the 3.0 speeds
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If the dock has a usb3.0 usb port and the bad I/O of the tf700 effects the data transfer speeds between devices via cable. Then wouldn't it make sense for the I/O in the new 2013 transformer to be improved in order to fully utalize the 3.0 speeds
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Hmmm..
MTP is slow to begin with, so it will make little difference there (my sgs3 takes just as long to copy a file).
And don't forget, ASUS is not officially acknowledging the I/O issue. I wonder if the R&D team even knows about it.
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A lot of people are complaining that the new transformer pad is slacking (usb 3.0, 5mp back cam,ect..) but i think they are working to a sell resnably priced tablet rather then all the top tech and gizmos. If the rumor that it will sell roughly around 399$ for the tablet and 499$ for the full kitten kaboodle ASUS will earn some respect from me.
Just hope the dock for that I'd interchangeable with the current tf dock! So I could just buy the tablet itself
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