Tf 101 or Nexus 7 - Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello,
i have the options to chose between these 2. nexus 7 or tf101. prices are exactly the same and the 101 comes with the dock, card and some bag.
ive played with it for a while i find it a little bit laggy to be honest but overall i see it as a good product. on the other hand never touched the nexus 7 so i have no clue how it is.
i know that depends on what exactly i wanna do with the table but i would appreciate some pro/cons from the ppl that owns them.
thank you

jargalus said:
Hello,
i have the options to chose between these 2. nexus 7 or tf101. prices are exactly the same and the 101 comes with the dock, card and some bag.
ive played with it for a while i find it a little bit laggy to be honest but overall i see it as a good product. on the other hand never touched the nexus 7 so i have no clue how it is.
i know that depends on what exactly i wanna do with the table but i would appreciate some pro/cons from the ppl that owns them.
thank you
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How come you are getting these 2 devices at the same price
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a friend of mine is selling the 101 and he is offering me this good price. the tablet is almost brand new.

jargalus said:
Hello,
i have the options to chose between these 2. nexus 7 or tf101. prices are exactly the same and the 101 comes with the dock, card and some bag.
ive played with it for a while i find it a little bit laggy to be honest but overall i see it as a good product. on the other hand never touched the nexus 7 so i have no clue how it is.
i know that depends on what exactly i wanna do with the table but i would appreciate some pro/cons from the ppl that owns them.
thank you
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Nexus 7 by a country mile. I own both, the TF101 is horrendously laggy and is probably not receiving Jelly Bean. You can still connect a bluetooth/usb keyboard to the Nexus if you need to, along with any other accessories. The main plus side of the TF101 is the extended battery life, but it wasn't that much of a big deal for me.

Have the TF101 and played with the Nexus , Nexus 7 is smooth and fast but that 7inch screen is just to small for a tablet.

i'm trying to get rid of my TF101 for the Nexus 7.
like others are saying, it's laggy (on stock). although i rooted the TF101 to put JellyBean on it, and it's pretty good so far.

don't forget you get micro sd expansion on top of the 16gb/32gb on the tf101 + additional sd card slot, 2 usb port and battery on the dock. i guess it on depends what you need, the nexus will give you continuous OS updates before other tablets and it is more portable and newer.

smimon said:
Nexus 7 by a country mile. I own both, the TF101 is horrendously laggy and is probably not receiving Jelly Bean. You can still connect a bluetooth/usb keyboard to the Nexus if you need to, along with any other accessories. The main plus side of the TF101 is the extended battery life, but it wasn't that much of a big deal for me.
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I'm pretty sure JB is being officially ported to the TF101.
Personally I say go with the TF101 just because it comes with a keyboard and some sort of pouch or case. The Nexus 7 is small for a tablet, but is faster. You can root the TF101 and install a JB ROM like CM10 or RaymanFX's AOSP or TeamEOS (correct me if I'm wrong).

Shmi117 said:
You can root the TF101 and install a JB ROM like CM10 or RaymanFX's AOSP or TeamEOS (correct me if I'm wrong).
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i am running RaymanFX's AOSP JellyBean on my TF101 and yes, it runs much better than stock. carrying around the TF101+dock is like carrying around a netbook. as soon as i find a buyer, i'm' getting myself the N7.

mrhomiec said:
i am running RaymanFX's AOSP JellyBean on my TF101 and yes, it runs much better than stock. carrying around the TF101+dock is like carrying around a netbook. as soon as i find a buyer, i'm' getting myself the N7.
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Yeah you're right it is like a Netbook but you are sacrificing screen size for performance. In my opinion, screen will always take precedence, but to each their own. I am also debating a N7 so if you get one could you tell me how it is? It might be one of those devices which I can make an exception to my opinion.

I just went through this exact same debate. I wanted something to take on the road with me when I travel. I wanted access to word, excel, and powerpoint too. I debated and debated. The Nexus 7 kept tugging, but a few factors sold me on the TF101.
Pro-Transformer:
Expandable memory - I dropped a 32gb card in right away. I also have the card reader on the dock for emergencies.
Keyboard - bluetooth keyboards are all well and good, but they don't come with several extra hours of battery life.
HDMI out - I can run this into a monitor/HDTV and make presentations with it. Very convenient.
Pro-Nexus:
Processor - Tegra3 vs Tegra2. That's all I'll say.
Portability - 7" is very convenient for traveling.
Software - you know the updates are coming.
Overall, the Nexus pro's couldn't sway me. It all comes down to what your personal needs are. Get your legal pad, make your list, and be happy with your decision.
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Nexus 7 . My brother has both. N7 for the win
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sell me the dock will you?

Go for the TF101. It is older, but better. I might say N7 if it had an external MicroSD slot.

TF101 is better, go for the TF.
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Tf101 with overclocked Jelly Bean is not laggy folks. Think outside of the stock rom
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First if all thank you all for your replies.
I have dicided to go for the tf. Just played with the 7 inch tablet from samsung and I got to say..... It's small. I have htc one x so if I buy the nexus ill add only 2 inch to my display if u know what I mean. On the other hand tf have some great thinks that comes in the package. I get the keyboard the sdcards and the extra inch comparing with my phone. And since everybody is saying that jb on tf is very fast I solve the speed difference. The only thing left is the 1080 movies that the tf is not able to.play from my understanding. Is this true?
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decisions, decisions, decisions

Hi all
Just after a few opinions on which tablet to buy.
I am looking at the TF300T, TF201 and the Acer A510. Anyone got any opinions on which one is best value for money?
I was drawn to the prime originally but the GPS and wifi issues put me off. I then got drawn to the cheaper transformer pad but have been reading that the Acer A510 is a better performer and has better battery life (for the tablet to tablet comparison anyway).
Can't make my mind up!
I am also wandering if its worth waiting a couple of weeks to see what is announced at Google I/O, nexus tablet maybe?
I would definitely wait and see what the Nexus Tab's specs and price are, but even if they are nice they won't compare to either of the tablets you're considering. Also IMO the TF300 is better in almost every way once you add the dock, most likely the battery comparisons you've heard have been just the TF300 v.s the Acer A510 but that doesn't factor in the TF300's keyboard dock battery. With the battery it slaughters the A510, and you wont find a productivity option this good anywhere else. Also having the dock add not only a battery and physical keyboard but it adds a full-size SD card slot and a full-size USB 2.0. I may be a bit biased but as long as you are planning on buying the keyboard dock with the TF300 its a no-brainer.
I would recommend the TF300 if you need a tablet soon. If not and you can afford it you might want to wait for the TF700. At one point I considered the Acer A510 also until I heard about the heat issues. I currently have 2 TF300's, one perfect 32gb, and a 16gb currently at Asus being repaired. And for my smaller tablet I have a Galaxy Tab 7.7. As far as 10" tablets currently available the TF300 is the way to go IMO.
Thanks for the replies.
In the UK you cant get the TF300 without the dock, at least not from a shop anyway!! You can import one or use a shady online e-tailer.
My problem is that I am getting fed-up of waiting. I have been lusting over an android tablet for months.
I think I may well have to wait and see what the nexus tablet is. i'm probably not interested if it is only a 7" version. Really want a 10" tablet myself.
I have a nexus S for my phone and definitely prefer the stock android experience and the very active development scene that goes with the Nexus line of devices.
May still end up giving in and buying a TF300 though!
Thanks all.
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I have a nexus S for my phone and definitely prefer the stock android experience and the very active development scene that goes with the Nexus line of devices.
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believe me, the TF300's Stock OS is as close to stock android as I've seen on a tablet for awhile, and if you're worried about it becoming outdated, this thing has top of the line specs and will last you for a good long while.
problem for you and me is there is always a better tablet coming in six months.. I bought the TF300 and like it so far. I love having the dock because I use pocket cloud remote desktop alot.
Unfortunalty I know I want a windows tablet when they become available and will prolly buy one too.. If you can wait then prolly when the one comes out you want now there will be a release for a new one and you will tell yourself, should I wait for THAT one?
Get the TF300 its nice.. If i wasnt using a dock though i would do the ipad. I like the screen format better for tablet use..
Just got home from work to find a check from the tax man for £430 so guess I'm gonna spend it on the TF300T then! Thanks everyone for your opinions.
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You can't go wrong with the tf300, I just got mine last week and I love it. My brother has the tf101 and the 300 blows it out of the water. My wife has the 7in galaxy tab 2 and it is a great tablet,some of the best speakers of any tablet I've seen, but I like the larger screen. Before I made the plunge to a larger tablet, I had a nook tablet that I heavily modified and put ics on it, a great affordable beginners device.
The 300 is such an awesome device, my only complaint is that I didn't get one sooner.
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Well I just ordered the tf300 so can't wait for it to arrive.
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Jamalsid said:
Well I just ordered the tf300 so can't wait for it to arrive.
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Congrats!
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balrog558 said:
You can't go wrong with the tf300, I just got mine last week and I love it. My brother has the tf101 and the 300 blows it out of the water. My wife has the 7in galaxy tab 2 and it is a great tablet,some of the best speakers of any tablet I've seen, but I like the larger screen. Before I made the plunge to a larger tablet, I had a nook tablet that I heavily modified and put ics on it, a great affordable beginners device.
The 300 is such an awesome device, my only complaint is that I didn't get one sooner.
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Exact same, my beginners tab was a Nook Tablet which I put CM9 on. I just now have been transferring over to my TF300. Small world.
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Nexus or pad tf700

$249 or $499
Its $250 more worth buying the Tf700?
Or Buy the Nexus7 Now enjoy it and see what the next big thing its..
Help me decide...
PS:Its seems like ASUS energy has shifted towards the Nexus7.
When its the TF700 is going to get the JellyBean Android 4.1?
dmoney94 said:
$249 or $499
Its $250 more worth buying the Tf700?
Or Buy the Nexus7 Now enjoy it and see what the next big thing its..
Help me decide...
PS:Its seems like ASUS energy has shifted towards the Nexus7.
When its the TF700 is going to get the JellyBean Android 4.1?
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No one can solve this dilemma but you. It's comparing apples to pears: the screen's resolution is different, the underlying hardware is to a large extent different, the available storage solutions are different, the charging keyboard dock (which I find great) is obviously a definite plus.
Resolution is one area where these two are comparable due to pixel density. Both are at the top of their respective size classes and will have very crisp, clear text. The Nexus 7 is pretty much a mini infinity minus the dock, hdmi and sd.
But the problem is you don't seem to know what you want. If your interest in the infinity is based on it being the 'it' tab, not on any particular feature, it probably isn't a good buy. Think about what you want to do with a tablet, and think about which tablet meets those criteria.
PS Asus is a massive company, perfectly capable of juggling many different product lines.
What the hell,
Just order TF700 from Amazon...3 to 4 weeks wait. Damn......................
I just ordered a TF700T about an hour ago on Newegg, it's shipping out tomorrow, should have it in 2 days.
They seem to be out of stock again though. Glad I was able to grab one because of Newegg's notifications!
damn bro im in the same situation especially with the asus hybrid tablet ultra books coming out later with windows 8 and dual booting into android. but i need a tablet now and especially in the fall for school. but for 199$ the nexus is so temping damn
Had the same issue myself and could not decide until i really thought about what i needed it for....just like the person said in a couple of posts above.
Since i really want it for business first (I'm in sales) i realized i really needed the bigger screen and the ability too add removable storage.
i went to my local TMobile store and checked out both screen sizes in other tablets and it seemed that the 7" was a little too small for me.
While, i don't need a camera (since i have one on my phone) it is nice that will be able to take photos of documents and sales orders and email them directly from the tablet.
So I agree, think about what your needs are, and go somewhere to check out the sizes if you are not sure.
However....that said, i bought my wife one instead of an Amazon kindle, and it shipped already, and i ordered it after my 700
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Only problem with the tf700 is the res is higher and the tegra 3 isn't powerful enough to run games as well at 1200p.... I'm waiting for a new cpu/gpu b4 I upgrade.... This TF300T is blazing fast and I'm running 4.1.1 with no problems.
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Admiral2145 said:
Only problem with the tf700 is the res is higher and the tegra 3 isn't powerful enough to run games as well at 1200p.... I'm waiting for a new cpu/gpu b4 I upgrade.... This TF300T is blazing fast and I'm running 4.1.1 with no problems.
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All the reviews out there say otherwise. There's a reason they went with a faster version of the Tegra 3.
When Jelly Bean arrives, the screen will be the last of the issues we will be concerned about. Asus just released both devices but you can be sure we will likely see jelly bean in the not so distant future seeing how long they likely had the source code
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Crizthakidd said:
damn bro im in the same situation especially with the asus hybrid tablet ultra books coming out later with windows 8 and dual booting into android. but i need a tablet now and especially in the fall for school. but for 199$ the nexus is so temping damn
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Asus never announced a tablet that dual-boots into Android. It was a full size All in One desktop computer, that thing could never be carried around as a tablet it's three times the size of the largest Android tablet...
legendary1022 said:
When Jelly Bean arrives, the screen will be the last of the issues we will be concerned about. Asus just released both devices but you can be sure we will likely see jelly bean in the not so distant future seeing how long they likely had the source code
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We will see Jelly Bean from someone soon. I think the CyanogenMod team might start developing CM10 for the Infinity, they just sent out a preview build of mostly everything running on the TF101 and TF201.
There were rumors before Jelly Bean came out that JB itself would be equipped (maybe parallels-esque) to dual boot windows for those manufacturers who wanted to put both on a system. Didn't pan out, though back then we though JB = 5.0. Maybe the real 5.0 will come ready to dual boot. But a number of Asus windows systems licensed bluestacks for android app emulation, perhaps that was what he was thinking of.
I am thinking about picking up a Nexus 7 for my son so he wont want to play games on my infinity. I still go back and forth between a 7 or a 10 inch tablet. Not being able to expand the memory on the Nexus 7 I think is a deal breaker for me.
My infinity TF700 should be here today..(UPS)
Why I,m i still thinking about buying the Nexus 7?
I believe that each tablet has different use cases. The Infinity allows for a little more productivity with the keyboard attachment as well as a incredible screen for viewing HD movies. The Nexus 7 lends itself to portability, reading (love reading Pocket on my Kindle Fire), and streaming content. To me the Infinity is better for me as I want productivity and all day battery life when I'm at school and/or work and the screen is going to be great for watching video on it.
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i own both nex7 and infinity they are both great, i use infinity for all my tegra 3 games since it has a much better screen imo and faster gpu, plus has longer battery life with the dock, but on the other hand i take my nex7 everywhere because of the size and with the tab talk app i rarely pull out my gnex i just do it all on the nex7, so i would say infinity if your at home alot or sitting at a desk often and the nex7 if your always on the go and need portability.
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i own both nex7 and infinity they are both great, i use infinity for all my tegra 3 games since it has a much better screen imo and faster gpu, plus has longer battery life with the dock, but on the other hand i take my nex7 everywhere because of the size and with the tab talk app i rarely pull out my gnex i just do it all on the nex7, so i would say infinity if your at home alot or sitting at a desk often and the nex7 if your always on the go and need portability.
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Well said. I intend to do the same with my N7 and TF700. Got the N7 yesterday and TF700 will be delivered today

[Q] How good is the TF300T Without the dock?

Hi,
I'm a newbie here... to both Android and the XDA Forums. I'm looking to purchase a tablet for no more than $400 USD.
I like the pros of the Nexus 7.... being that its quad core and its $200.
Still... the lack of expandable memory and DLNA is a sore point for me.
For a while I was settled on the GTab 2 7.0 (I have a GT-I9100 so Samsung Bias is expected). I didn't see the need spending an extra $100+ for an extra 3.1" on the screen size to get the 10.1 version.
This was my choice until some bastard (lol) mentioned the TF300T and now I'm back where I was before....
Now every review I've read... so far... owners mention having the dock. That's an extra $130 and pushes the cost up to $500. Now.... I may get the dock... if I WANT TO... if I indeed go with getting the TF300T but I want it to be a choice and not something I HAVE to get.
So my question is, sans the docking station, just HOW good is the TF300T compared to say... well... a GTab 2 10.1"? What are the caveats?
Appreciate any assistance forthcoming. Thank you for your time.
i don't use my dock at all. in my opinion the dock is only usefull if you plan on writing a novel or essays.
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atomicblue said:
i don't use my dock at all. in my opinion the dock is only usefull if you plan on writing a novel or essays.
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So it IS a functional tablet as far when compared to the GTab2 10.1? No drawbacks?
I don't have the dock, and I don't see myself buying it in the future. I wanted the TF300T for mobility, and it's pretty good .
If the need arises for a physical keyboard, I'll just take my laptop with me. The only thing I regret from the dock is the USB port - I can't buy the adapter in my country.
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levi_jm said:
So it IS a functional tablet as far when compared to the GTab2 10.1? No drawbacks?
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Yes....and is more powerful than the GTab 2 which is a dual-core machine (vs quad core in the Transformer).
On the flip side - the GTab has built-in 3G support. The TF300T is wi-fi only.
The TF300TG has wi-fi/3G...but it's not available in all territories.
The keyboard dock is obviously useful for productivity apps....but it's also handy for old DOS games, hacking etc.
It also has the SD card....and extends the battery life by 5 - 6 hours.
IMO, it's a more flexible device with the option of the keyboard. I use it as a tablet probably 70% of the time.
levi_jm said:
So it IS a functional tablet as far when compared to the GTab2 10.1? No drawbacks?
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This tablet absolutely Trashes GTab2, better performance, better screen, the ability to get the dock if you want to. The one drawback I find is that there are more accessories for the GTab 2 (like the smartcover) but I think that gets fixed in time. Also Asus is famous for bringing fast updates and there is already CM10 (Android 4.1.1) rom out for the TF300. I would really get this tablet over the gtab2, don't really see any reason to get it, it's pretty crappy in the end, so laggy.
For me, the dock is just like an extra acessory to my tablet. I rarely use it. The tablet is perfect even without it. Of course, the USB thing is really useful
I agree. I don't have or need the dock. The TF300T is great and ASUS support is fantastic.
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i do have the dock and i really like it but the tablet it self is great too every thing just works and the battery lasts ages
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I would get the ASUS...even with its little quirks.
My ONLY complaint about this tablet is the lag in the browser...some experience it,some dont. it is annoying but not terrible.
and i have a feeling Jelly Bean will fix it.
the main advantages of the ASUS over the galaxy tab is the update time. ASUS has always been on of the first to deliver the latest version of android to thier devices.....Samsung on the other hand....not so much. i believe they JUST (as in the last month) updated to original tab 10.1 to ICS...asus updated their original tf101 like 4 months ago.
also the quad core is pretty nice for graphically intense games (dead trigger looks fantastic) in every day use though, you probably wont notice much of a difference.
not to mention the dock. i dont have one, and i dont think i really need one...however i would take one in a heart beat if i got a good deal on it. just adds so much functionality.
I hardly use the dock. Slightly annoying since it costs so much.
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I dont have the dock , i dont see the need for it , has much of the use I do with the TF300 is gaming and to watch some anime. But is nice to know if ever want to do more then just gaming I can buy the dock and make it a netbook.
With the lack of a USB, How do you browse, add and remove media from the device using a PC? (When you don't have the dock).
Suppose, heaven forbid, I'm in a place where there is no Wifi, how would I transfer media?
If I can successfully navigate this with one caveat with ease, then we have a winner
levi_jm said:
With the lack of a USB, How do you browse, add and remove media from the device? (When you don't have the dock).
Suppose, heaven forbid, I'm in a place where there is no Wifi, how would I transfer media?
If I can successfully navigate this with one caveat with ease, then we have a winner
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You can still use the cable, or use a micro SD to transfer data to your tablet. Easy enough.
Only had mine for a week, but it works great with or without the dock.
Some things are easier with it, but still easily manageable without it really
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Appreciate the feedback guys.
*Heads to Amazon*:victory:
I don't have the dock and I liked having that as an option if I decided to get it in the future. I love my tablet as is and I usually get SAMSUNG products. Asus is quick about upgrades unlike SAMSUNG. The dev support is picking up, and the device is at an excellent price point for the specs that it comes with.
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levi_jm said:
So it IS a functional tablet as far when compared to the GTab2 10.1? No drawbacks?
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It has the tegra 3 which is much faster than the omap 4430. It also doesn't have touchwiz and is pretty much aosp with a few minor mods. The tegra 3 also gives you access to much more of the system ram. Close to the full gig. I've noticed on my galaxy nexus that only about 700 is available so it must share it with the GPU. That extra 250 or so makes a difference during multitasking.
Nexus 7 tegra 3: 974MB available RAM
Galaxy nexus TI OMAP 4460: 695MB available RAM
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I don't have the dock and I liked having that as an option if I decided to get it in the future. I love my tablet as is and I usually get SAMSUNG products. Asus is quick about upgrades unlike SAMSUNG. The dev support is picking up, and the device is at an excellent price point for the specs that it comes with.
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Its unfortunate that I have to choose Asus over Samsung but as you said... the specs for this price is too good to ignore.
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Its unfortunate that I have to choose Asus over Samsung but as you said... the specs for this price is too good to ignore.
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Dude I was in the exact situation as you. Also have the SGS2 and was considering tablets like you. The Stab 10.1 was my 1st choice ofc until I realized for way less I could get way more.
I got the TF300T without the 3G because I par it to my SGS2 without any problems and both of them have BT 3.0 so its practically as fast as your internet connection can go on 3G.
Other than that I dont have the dock as I wanted a Tablet not a Netbook and because its paired with my phone to share the internet connection I have absolutely no issues with any type of connectivity. Other than that Your SGS2 SD card firs in the tablet so you could just copy stuff on there and plug it into your tab and copy it off putting it back in your phone if you want OR you could just install Dropbox to transfer files with like I do
With the tablet you get 8 gig's of Asus web storage and there is a app for it you can install on your home PC and on your phone if you want to do it that way too.
There is literally multiple ways to get stuff shared in between them.

[Q] Tf700 with Customer rom vs nexus 10

Just got a nexus 10 today.
This thing is fast
But I discovered that it lacks a micro SD slot.
I have tons of things on msd cards now.
So the debate is whether to switch to a tf700 which has decent resolution but at least the stock rom is ridiculously slow and laggy
Does anyone have any experience with both of these platforms?
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tazmeister said:
Just got a nexus 10 today.
This thing is fast
But I discovered that it lacks a micro SD slot.
I have tons of things on msd cards now.
So the debate is whether to switch to a tf700 which has decent resolution but at least the stock rom is ridiculously slow and laggy
Does anyone have any experience with both of these platforms?
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How much data you have on the microsd? what kind of data? movies/pictures? is it too big for your Nexus10 storage? Have you considered cloud storage? Nexus 10 is a better device minus the microsdcard.
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How much data you have on the microsd? what kind of data? movies/pictures? is it too big for your Nexus10 storage? Have you considered cloud storage? Nexus 10 is a better device minus the microsdcard.
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Indeed the Nexus is better because of the GPU, but the TF700 can easily reaach its performance when modded. Plus the TF700 has the keyboard dock and then it has 2 batteries, 1 MicroSD, and 1 SD slot.
Tylor
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I tried a Nexus 10 today which was totally stock and was surprised at how laggy and slow it was compared to CROMi-X
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I tried a Nexus 10 today which was totally stock and was surprised at how laggy and slow it was compared to CROMi-X
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Oh, stop it. Self-advertising is soooooo 2001.
J/K
But I'll be damned if a CROMI-X'ed 700 is not as good if not better than a stock Nexus 10...
The N10 can have all the speed it wants; without a MicroSD slot it will always be a lesser device.
I've tried the n10 on a display in Germany a few days ago. Aside from the frankly hideous shape, it was also nowhere near as 'gloriously fast' as people make it out to be.
My TF700 on stock next to it could keep up rather well, I imagine it's quite a bit faster on Cromix.
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I don't know how you guys testing the Nexus 10, but I'm using my cousin N10 and this thing is fast. The N10 will blow the tf700 fully modified and OC to the teeth out of the water in multitasking. Just imagine you running custom rom and OC kernel with this baby. Not to be bias I did some search for a review and it rated almost 5 stars everywhere, here are a few links:
http://www.omgchrome.com/nexus-10-review/
http://www.trustedreviews.com/google-nexus-10_Tablet_review
So it's not just me. Oh about the sdcard, my cousin, just use a mini USB to sdcard adapter ...may not look as pretty but pretty compact and does the job fine. Also it's not fair to compare an old hardware (ft700) to a new hardware (N10), but the fact it's definitely faster, better resolution and nicer to hold in my hand. Also the legginess possible from the Android JB 4.2.1 software, but not the N10 hardware. Once Google upgrade the software, you shouldn't see any lags anymore :good:
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I don't know how you guys testing the Nexus 10, but I'm using my cousin N10 and this thing is fast. The N10 will blow the tf700 fully modified and OC to the teeth out of the water in multitasking. Just imagine you running custom rom and OC kernel with this baby. Not to be bias I did some search for a review and it rated almost 5 stars everywhere, here are a few links:
http://www.omgchrome.com/nexus-10-review/
http://www.trustedreviews.com/google-nexus-10_Tablet_review
So it's not just me. Oh about the sdcard, my cousin, just use a mini USB to sdcard adapter ...may not look as pretty but pretty compact and does the job fine. Also it's not fair to compare an old hardware (ft700) to a new hardware (N10), but the fact it's definitely faster, better resolution and nicer to hold in my hand. Also the legginess possible from the Android JB 4.2.1 software, but not the N10 hardware. Once Google upgrade the software, you shouldn't see any lags anymore :good:
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I agree with you to certain degrees BUT, The nexus offers little features compared to a Transformer. The Transformer is plenty for every day use. I would only say go with a NEXUS if you want to game hard core. If you want more battery life, storage expandability, and a physical keyboard docking, go with the infinity. If you want more of a toy for playing games on, go for the Nexus, yet as buhohitr said, the Tranformers is getting to be a year old so it is kinda outdated. In my personal opinion, technology advances every 6 months. New and better things become available and it is just how it is. BUT, I still love my transformer and WOULD NOT get rid of it due to the simply fact of the keyboard. Have you ever tried typing a paper or report on a touchscreen????
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Tylorw1 said:
I agree with you to certain degrees BUT, The nexus offers little features compared to a Transformer. The Transformer is plenty for every day use. I would only say go with a NEXUS if you want to game hard core. If you want more battery life, storage expandability, and a physical keyboard docking, go with the infinity. If you want more of a toy for playing games on, go for the Nexus, yet as buhohitr said, the Tranformers is getting to be a year old so it is kinda outdated. In my personal opinion, technology advances every 6 months. New and better things become available and it is just how it is. BUT, I still love my transformer and WOULD NOT get rid of it due to the simply fact of the keyboard. Have you ever tried typing a paper or report on a touchscreen????
Tylor
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Not to debate with you because you're right too, but I want to give everyone some of my takes. I no longer use the keyboard dock came with the tf700, why? because it's awkward, flip over all the time, specially on my lap. I purchased a separate mini stand (7$) and wireless keyboard/mouse (40$) and found it's working much better, I can have the board on my lap and move around very nicely. Also another note is when you pickup the tf700 while it docked you have to be careful to hold it right otherwise you may break the hinges, but again even on a flat surface, this thing kept flipping over all the time when it's in a angle and I tried to touch and hold to move/copy. If anyone never try a real mouse with the tf700 you should, it much faster and a lot easier to navigate, specially when browsing, just scroll the wheel on the mouse and save your arm from getting tired.
No Nexus device will have MicroSD in the foreseeable future. AFAIK, it's a deliberate option by Google, and unless it's changed Nexus devices will rely on internal memory.
Forgive my ignorance, does the Nexus 10 have a USB connector? Could you plug in a microSD reader? I have one that's little larger than a thumbnail. Not perfect, but it would take care of your problem.
That said, feel free to get yourself an Infinity I know many people complain about its lagginess and whatnot. It depends on your expectations and what you do with it. I can only say I'm rooted, locked and on stock 4.2.1 and am still very enthusiastic about it.
Reports for the nexus 11 suggest it will have micro SD
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Reports for the nexus 11 suggest it will have micro SD
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As if.
These were the same reports that had a leaked image of the new Note 3( with the serial number I9500(Which is the SGS4) and turned out to be a midrange phablet called the ZOPO ZP950), claimed that the Galaxy Tab 3 would have 1920x1080 resolution (which has already been announced as having a crappy 1280x800 res.) and that the Galaxy S4 would feature a flexible display. (Which it doesn't.)

So torn on what tablet to keep... N7 vs Infinity

So I've had my Infinity + Dock for almost 10 months now. While performance is good we can all relate to the I/O issues and laggyness of the device.
So recently decided to grab the Nexus 7 to give it a whirl. Really want to try the new one, but could be a few months away and so want to try something else affordable. So with that now, I've had my Nexus for just over a week now. It really is a solid piece of equipment then comes to really the differences.
I'm sure this has been beaten to death but...
Infinity +'s
Large Screen
1920x1200 (so nice)
mini HDMI out (it is a nice feature)
microSD Card Slot
Dock with more battery/SD Card slot
Very quick recharge of both tablet and dock.
Infinity's -'s
Weight (quiet heavy with the dock)
I/O issues (Yes I understand you can help it some what by using Data2SD... though still its an issue)
Size in hand (large tablets really aren't that user friendly in the hands)
Nexus 7 +'s
Small
Lightweight
Same Tegra 3 chip as Infinity
Google Product (little more support for the device)
Nexus 7 -'s
Less Battery
No SD Card Slot
Slower Recharge time
Might have more plus's for the Infinity, but just weighing at least my needs the Nexus 7 almost seems better. At this point im sad to say I might sell my Infinity off. I like the device but ever since I've gotten my Nexus 7 I haven't really touched the tablet except for showing a movie on my TV (first time actually). And now in comparison to my Nexus 7, and seeing how badly my Infinity lags with commands its amazing why I never noticed it this much before.
Might try a few more things here before making a true decision of what to keep and what to get rid of.
What ever happens in the future I hope Asus's next product fix the dang I/O issues and get some good speed to internal memory.
Has anyone else also been in my shoes?
I think you probably already know your answer to which tablet you want but looking for validation on it. Given you have found the 7'' to fit better in your hands and perform better for you, why keep the Infinity? You can buy a bt keyboard and external battery pack to give 1 or 2 extra charges if your out an about. You do lose the micro-SD slot but there are ways around storage limitations (cloud storage, usb card readers, wifi enabled external drives). If the tablet is not meeting your needs or expectations then move on. Sticking with it will leave the nagging lag issue in your mind and probably looking for it during use.
Since your manufacture warranty is almost up then you could try unlocking it for better performance.
Yeah I know. Just feel bad that a $250 tablet is crushing a $500 in performance using the same hardware and made by the same manufacture.
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The n7 has a different version of the tegra 3, the cheaper version. The infinity has a new version and can go to 1.7Ghz.
But more Ghz don't mean more smoothness. Also the infinity has more pixels so it needs more power.
If I was you, I would keep the infinity if you don't go out often and the n7 if you do.
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I actually debated what you are going through a few weeks ago and decided to sell my Infinity and Dock on eBay and keep my Nexus 7. I went out and bought a Logitech k810 (the typing experience is amazing and highly recommended) to replace my typing needs. I'll keep the Nexus 7 and wait until the next round of next generation 10 inch tablets are out, as nothing is really doing it for me at the moment, but liking the benchmark results that are coming out of the Tegra 4 and Snapdragon 800. Hopefully those live up to the benchmarks that we are seeing. I wouldn't mind going back with ASUS, but they seriously have to fix the I/O issues
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legendary1022 said:
I actually debated what you are going through a few weeks ago and decided to sell my Infinity and Dock on eBay and keep my Nexus 7. I went out and bought a Logitech k810 (the typing experience is amazing and highly recommended) to replace my typing needs. I'll keep the Nexus 7 and wait until the next round of next generation 10 inch tablets are out, as nothing is really doing it for me at the moment, but liking the benchmark results that are coming out of the Tegra 4 and Snapdragon 800. Hopefully those live up to the benchmarks that we are seeing. I wouldn't mind going back with ASUS, but they seriously have to fix the I/O issues
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That is ALL that IS really wrong with the infinity is the i/o. ASUS is stupid for not putting a better internal storage in this device. Actually, the N7 has newer parts than the Infinity, but newer does not always mean better. The only reason the N7 is so much smoother is the i/o, and ASUS is quite dumb for not putting a better internal storage in the Infinity. I am hoping for a new infinity, and if the i/o is not fixed, then I wont be going with it.
Tylor
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Yeah the I/O just became too frustrating to deal with, even with CROMI. Having come from the Prime, I was hoping that issue would have been fixed. There are a ton of things that ASUS did right but the /O issue is just too difficult to overcome and the Nexus 7 runs circles around it because of it. I'm hoping Computex brings us some new hardware, especially a new high end Transformer.
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Don't see how it can be much faster than a cromi 4.6 tf700. Unless you are constantly downloading
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Running 4.5 right now. Going to do a full 100% write and try data2sd on it again them make a decision. Though might go small keep this and just see what comes out next.
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Deathman20 said:
Running 4.5 right now. Going to do a full 100% write and try data2sd on it again them make a decision. Though might go small keep this and just see what comes out next.
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I used to own a Nexus 7. I traded up for the ATI. I am running disabled fsync and no data2sd and the experience feels the same as the Nexus 7 to me.
I love the ATI so much better. My 32gb GN7 was running low on storage. Now, I have 96gb in my ATI. It's great that I can add another 64gb SD in the future with the dock.
Having a real keyboard is awesome!
The 2nd battery is icing on the cake.
Tylorw1 said:
That is ALL that IS really wrong with the infinity is the i/o. ASUS is stupid for not putting a better internal storage in this device. Actually, the N7 has newer parts than the Infinity, but newer does not always mean better. The only reason the N7 is so much smoother is the i/o, and ASUS is quite dumb for not putting a better internal storage in the Infinity. I am hoping for a new infinity, and if the i/o is not fixed, then I wont be going with it.
Tylor
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True that is about all that is truly wrong with it. If the I/O was fixed I wouldn't even consider trading out. It does have a lot of nice features which is really hard to pass.
Neo3D said:
I used to own a Nexus 7. I traded up for the ATI. I am running disabled fsync and no data2sd and the experience feels the same as the Nexus 7 to me.
I love the ATI so much better. My 32gb GN7 was running low on storage. Now, I have 96gb in my ATI. It's great that I can add another 64gb SD in the future with the dock.
Having a real keyboard is awesome!
The 2nd battery is icing on the cake.
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So your not running Data2SD? And you fell like it's the same? That's interesting. Guess maybe some tweaks is in store for me.
Yeah the limited storage stinks but did the kickstarter that has a micro SD/mini USB connection in one (really small) so expandability isn't an issue for me. Though I do support the 32GB + 64GB + 32GB cards on my ATI. It's nice to have the space that is for sure.
Man almost thinking of keeping both for now . What can you say I'm spoiled.
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Deathman20 said:
True that is about all that is truly wrong with it. If the I/O was fixed I wouldn't even consider trading out. It does have a lot of nice features which is really hard to pass.
So your not running Data2SD? And you fell like it's the same? That's interesting. Guess maybe some tweaks is in store for me.
Yeah the limited storage stinks but did the kickstarter that has a micro SD/mini USB connection in one (really small) so expandability isn't an issue for me. Though I do support the 32GB + 64GB + 32GB cards on my ATI. It's nice to have the space that is for sure.
Man almost thinking of keeping both for now . What can you say I'm spoiled.
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I have both right now, too
Asus should get rid of the mouse pad in the next gen keyboard dock to make room for a bigger battery.
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Asus should get rid of the mouse pad in the next gen keyboard dock to make room for a bigger battery.
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I'd love to see that myself. I barely use the mouse/track pad, and won't miss it if it's absent.
I'd also like to see an led backlit keyboard too.
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I have an Infinity and N7 as well. I try to make the N7 my main device, but i keep going back that big screen. I use my N7 for everything, except reading. I need my big screen to read my comics. Maybe i need glasses. But the N7 is so smooth. SOD is quite annoying. Even with cleanrom installed, my N7 is still more productive
timrock said:
I have an Infinity and N7 as well. I try to make the N7 my main device, but i keep going back that big screen. I use my N7 for everything, except reading. I need my big screen to read my comics. Maybe i need glasses. But the N7 is so smooth. SOD is quite annoying. Even with cleanrom installed, my N7 is still more productive
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I dont understand how with CromiX everyone is getting SOD. I havent gotten in SoD in months. Have you tried doing a fresh install timrock? Wiping everything including internal storage? and again installing CromiX?
Tylor
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Tylorw1 said:
I dont understand how with CromiX everyone is getting SOD. I havent gotten in SoD in months. Have you tried doing a fresh install timrock? Wiping everything including internal storage? and again installing CromiX?
Tylor
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plenty of times. i just spent a whole weekend clean installing it because of kernel issue. Just got an SOD about a half hour ago.
Well thankfully I have never gotten a SOD on the device. Actually first time I've heard of the term.
Now had anyone else gotten the issue where say you try to turn on the screen and it doesn't go on or delays so long it times out on you just to repeat it? I've been getting that a lot more lately.
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My Nexus 7 feels much smoother than my TF700.
That being said, i've tried 2 different types of keyboards on the N7, bluetooth an wired (usb otg) and I keep coming back to the transformer.
The dock makes this device!
Since installing CromiX, i've found it a much better device.
I've now just removed a bunch of apps from startup and it is buzzing!
I can only tell from my own experience that:
1) IF you have a TF700 with perfect build quality
and 2) IF you are prepared to unlock
You will NOT be disappointed in this device.
However, it's also a question of how much you are willing to spend on a device. This one's nearly a year old
Maybe you could have a look at the Nexus 10, if that's available in your country?
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Well thankfully I have never gotten a SOD on the device. Actually first time I've heard of the term.
Now had anyone else gotten the issue where say you try to turn on the screen and it doesn't go on or delays so long it times out on you just to repeat it? I've been getting that a lot more lately.
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i believe that the SOD (sleep of death). Example, you are done using the tab and you just put it to sleep (not turn it off), you press the button to wake it, and it doesnt wake up. At least not right away. It either takes a while to wake, or you end up having to reset it. This is what happens to me on occasions.

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