Hi,
I have a question for who understand better than me about Android. I have passed from the desire hd (512 MB Ram) to htc one x ( 1 GB Ram). I'm using the same rom (AOSP) and the same minfree settings with kernel tuner but I don't see differences in the number of the app that I can take open in multitasking. Always after 3-4 apps the system restarts them. Should not I be able to keep more applications open?
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I temp-rooted my Sensation and disabled all of the bloatware, but aired on the side of caution with stuff I wasn't sure about, so there may still be a few things that could go. I also used Startup Auditor so that no unnecessary apps run at boot, but even then, there's some I'm not sure about so I let them be.
Running Sense with no lwp, on a fresh boot, the max memory I ever have available is >180mb, after using it for a few hours I'm normally running around 110mb. I don't really believe in using task killers, as everything I've read said Android handles it on its own and it only waste battery and more memory to kill the tasks.
As most know, when the phone begins to run low on resources, Sense will reboot. So quite often throughout the day, Sense reboots on me. This also happens almost every single time I play a game like Grow or Cut The Rope..
So how much memory do you guys typically have available on a fresh boot? After hours of usage? Any Sense reboots? Any tricks you use?
This should be interesting to hear what others are running at!
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I haven't removed any bloatware yet. Max I've had has been 310 free. The one shown on "Running Services", not the Task killer included.
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Nice one! I use System Panel and the incl Task Killer to see avail memory and they are always the same reading, right now 127 but within Running Services it shows 223mb available...I wonder why the difference.
I feel a little better now, but still wonder why Sense always reboots itself if I have that much memory available...
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Haven't killed anything manually, ES File Explorer is running in the background, something is being synced over WIFI, 304 MB available.
By the way - this is on the updated version (1.35.00) and haven't checked the same scenario pre updating.
Updated version? Are s-off or outside the US?
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About 296 mb free.
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Wonder why the used and free combined come out to about 512. . . Don't we have 768?
Ps. This is in Running Services. Doesn't seem like it's anymore accurate than the window shade.
Nothing removed and running ADW since HTC doesn't know how to optimize there UI and I always have 302 available.
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After using Eugene's 7/9 temp perma-root, I was able to get 397mb free. (Had 410mb before I launched drocap2)
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Typically 110 MB. Today, after running Youtube/Browser and then closing them, I got 150. Dropped down to 140 again quickly however. Never had more... How do you guys get 300?! Disabled Sense?
I get around 290-305 free ram. I disabled alot of apps. System runs smooth. I'm actually running ADW EX and disabled com.HTC.launcher also. Is Checking Ram here in running services accurate?
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Typically 110 MB. Today, after running Youtube/Browser and then closing them, I got 150. Dropped down to 140 again quickly however. Never had more... How do you guys get 300?! Disabled Sense?
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Don't use the built-in task manager to check free ram. Use "running services".
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I get around 290-305 free ram. I disabled alot of apps. System runs smooth. I'm actually running ADW EX and disabled com.HTC.launcher also. Is Checking Ram here in running services accurate?
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Yes, accurate.
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I haven't frozen any bloatware apps either. They aren't really bothering me. Just wish I could use setCPU. I'm hovering around 400mb, but I also don't have a ton of apps.
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Ok, in Running Services I get something around 260 MB.
No bloatware removed and I'm at around 300
No home replacement app either.
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Max i had is 149 out of 558... I am so curious why the total is 558 instead of 768??? but i have never had sense rebooted even after couple of 720p mkv, playing games, web surfing...
About 340Mo after a fresh reboot and after manually killing all the unnecessary tasks (reader, tutorial, messaging, etc)
I've noticed that after about 48h of use, I can't get more than 240Mo after killing the same background tasks.
The worst I've seen was 70Mo after killing all tasks and 2 days of heavy use, it definitly needed a reboot ^^
hey people it says RAM is 768 how much is actually available for usage ?
Exactly 611 mb.
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160 mb for me with loads of apps running...
have not faced a memory problem till date in last 6 months
More then 300 mb
suku_patel_22 said:
160 mb for me with loads of apps running...
have not faced a memory problem till date in last 6 months
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That is the free memory lol
Total is 600+
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612 MB Usable
It depends on the ROM. There is always a system reserved amount of RAM, so you do not have the total amount listed.
For example with proxuser's Desire Sense 3 ROM I had 586 MB available, with Stock, LBC or CM7 there are 611 MB and as I can see from the screenshots BinDroid DS has 620 MB.
But do not worry all your RAM is there
If i remenber right
If you want more ram you can use the 3d ram,but i think it s irreversible
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Hello everybody
I used an apple iPhone 4s recently.
I noticed that it allows me to switch upto 8 applications without reloading them that too in a mere 512 mb ram.
But our HTC one x boasting 1gb ram allows me to switch upto 4 applications only.
I know that HTC has restricted it, and we can increase the limit unofficially.
But even then I am not sure about performance implications when we do that.
Also please let me know how much applications you can switch in Samsung galaxy s3 and Samsung galaxy nexus.
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raddy said:
Hello everybody
I used an apple iPhone 4s recently.
I noticed that it allows me to switch upto 8 applications without reloading them that too in a mere 512 mb ram.
But our HTC one x boasting 1gb ram allows me to switch upto 4 applications only.
I know that HTC has restricted it, and we can increase the limit unofficially.
But even then I am not sure about performance implications when we do that.
Also please let me know how much applications you can switch in Samsung galaxy s3 and Samsung galaxy nexus.
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root, flash custom ROM and make whatever changes you need to get where you want, that is if you are on firmware that allows this.
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root, flash custom ROM and make whatever changes you need to get where you want, that is if you are on firmware that allows this.
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I have already mentioned the modding possibility.
But, i am not sure the performance implications of having more than 4 apps in the background.
This has been discussed a lot... Just search for the multitasking threads.
In summary, HTC imposed the limit to save battery life. Most ROM developers have removed the limit so multitasking has been fixed.
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I have already mentioned the modding possibility.
But, i am not sure the performance implications of having more than 4 apps in the background.
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What's the point of the thread then, you don't want to root because it may have a negative impact of performance? That's usually the reason why we root. To push our device to the limit
The only way to truly know is to try
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HTC didn't limit the number of apps for the sake of battery, but more to offset the drain on memory and speed that sense causes. You have to remember that the sense framework adds a lot of things on top of the base android OS. All that extra stuff running in the background uses memory and by using somewhat harsh memory management, they can keep all sense stuff running smooth.
If you switch to one of the new builds of CM10, you will see battery life is very close to sense roms, without the horrible multitasking.
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HTC didn't limit the number of apps for the sake of battery, but more to offset the drain on memory and speed that sense causes. You have to remember that the sense framework adds a lot of things on top of the base android OS. All that extra stuff running in the background uses memory and by using somewhat harsh memory management, they can keep all sense stuff running smooth.
If you switch to one of the new builds of CM10, you will see battery life is very close to sense roms, without the horrible multitasking.
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I see.
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What I said was, our HTC One x may not capable of running more than 4 applications at a time even if we tweak the operating system.
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So are you trying to say that all the other mobile phones are able to switch upto 8 applications simultaneously ?
Is HTC sense such a piece of bloatware ?
Why doesn't.HTC store the applications state as did by apple iPhone to converse the battery.
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HTC Sense limits multitasking even in HTC One S ?
Samsung Galaxy S3 doesn't have this issue ?
Why not HTC Sense store the background application's state?
How regularly do you multi-task with 8 apps? I use the ViperXL custom ROM and you can tweak your heart out on multi-tasking. Try it out - may be you could reach that number or greater.
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any rom base is ok, sense, aokp, cm...
thanks thanks thanks!!
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Download any CM ROM and don't install GAPPs.
You must try different ROMs and choose the one that suits you.
For Most RAM free, I think SlimBean is your best choice. Just see the attached screenshot.
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Ram works differently on andriod then on windows or other os. On our phones ram is not to big of concern , apps just get loaded into ram so its norm to show a high ram usage
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Ram works differently on andriod then on windows or other os. On our phones ram is not to big of concern , apps just get loaded into ram so its norm to show a high ram usage
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I imagine you would only notice a difference if you're zipping in and out of multiple apps. And the little differences in amounts of RAM used would have little real world usage differences.
Isn't there anyone installed ram expander or swapper apps to increase the size of physical ram?
The total ram is only 768 mb, so the remained after flashing the recent PAC rom is usually less than 200 mb.
This insufficient ram always requires "kill apps" before start new apps.
It seems that "ram expander" or "swapper2" can resolve this problem, but I can't be sure about these apps whether they are stable / effective.
Let android do its thing man.
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Don't use crappy apps like that android intentionally fills ram. Its doing what it's supposed to.
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