I temp-rooted my Sensation and disabled all of the bloatware, but aired on the side of caution with stuff I wasn't sure about, so there may still be a few things that could go. I also used Startup Auditor so that no unnecessary apps run at boot, but even then, there's some I'm not sure about so I let them be.
Running Sense with no lwp, on a fresh boot, the max memory I ever have available is >180mb, after using it for a few hours I'm normally running around 110mb. I don't really believe in using task killers, as everything I've read said Android handles it on its own and it only waste battery and more memory to kill the tasks.
As most know, when the phone begins to run low on resources, Sense will reboot. So quite often throughout the day, Sense reboots on me. This also happens almost every single time I play a game like Grow or Cut The Rope..
So how much memory do you guys typically have available on a fresh boot? After hours of usage? Any Sense reboots? Any tricks you use?
This should be interesting to hear what others are running at!
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I haven't removed any bloatware yet. Max I've had has been 310 free. The one shown on "Running Services", not the Task killer included.
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Nice one! I use System Panel and the incl Task Killer to see avail memory and they are always the same reading, right now 127 but within Running Services it shows 223mb available...I wonder why the difference.
I feel a little better now, but still wonder why Sense always reboots itself if I have that much memory available...
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Haven't killed anything manually, ES File Explorer is running in the background, something is being synced over WIFI, 304 MB available.
By the way - this is on the updated version (1.35.00) and haven't checked the same scenario pre updating.
Updated version? Are s-off or outside the US?
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About 296 mb free.
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Wonder why the used and free combined come out to about 512. . . Don't we have 768?
Ps. This is in Running Services. Doesn't seem like it's anymore accurate than the window shade.
Nothing removed and running ADW since HTC doesn't know how to optimize there UI and I always have 302 available.
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After using Eugene's 7/9 temp perma-root, I was able to get 397mb free. (Had 410mb before I launched drocap2)
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Typically 110 MB. Today, after running Youtube/Browser and then closing them, I got 150. Dropped down to 140 again quickly however. Never had more... How do you guys get 300?! Disabled Sense?
I get around 290-305 free ram. I disabled alot of apps. System runs smooth. I'm actually running ADW EX and disabled com.HTC.launcher also. Is Checking Ram here in running services accurate?
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Typically 110 MB. Today, after running Youtube/Browser and then closing them, I got 150. Dropped down to 140 again quickly however. Never had more... How do you guys get 300?! Disabled Sense?
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Don't use the built-in task manager to check free ram. Use "running services".
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I get around 290-305 free ram. I disabled alot of apps. System runs smooth. I'm actually running ADW EX and disabled com.HTC.launcher also. Is Checking Ram here in running services accurate?
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I haven't frozen any bloatware apps either. They aren't really bothering me. Just wish I could use setCPU. I'm hovering around 400mb, but I also don't have a ton of apps.
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Ok, in Running Services I get something around 260 MB.
No bloatware removed and I'm at around 300
No home replacement app either.
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Max i had is 149 out of 558... I am so curious why the total is 558 instead of 768??? but i have never had sense rebooted even after couple of 720p mkv, playing games, web surfing...
About 340Mo after a fresh reboot and after manually killing all the unnecessary tasks (reader, tutorial, messaging, etc)
I've noticed that after about 48h of use, I can't get more than 240Mo after killing the same background tasks.
The worst I've seen was 70Mo after killing all tasks and 2 days of heavy use, it definitly needed a reboot ^^
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So i just rooted the phone and installed the virtuous unity rom. When i installed the rom i assumed it would take care of the ram and cpu problems which is why i didn't really care much. But since it didn't solve the problem, i'm starting to wonder where the hell all the cpu and ram power is going. On idle i only have about 150mb of ram available and my cpu is 50% in use. Is this normal? Can anything be done about it?
It's also very noticeable.
Strange.
Are you controlling the running services and application-tasks manually ?
I usually have around 400MB free ram and cpu usage is just on the normal range, and an ordinary task manager does the job.
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is your phone running slowly? 150Mb is loads or RAM, have you ever run out?
custom roms tend to make more use of RAM for caches and to improve performance etc....especially if you try sense 3.0 based rom which by nature will be larger.
How did you manage to get 400mb!?!?!?!?! What rom are you running?
It does lag quite a bit at times which seems to go away after the use of a task killer but i don't use task killers anymore as i failed to see the point in them.
also why does the phone claim to have 768mb when i can only see about 611mb. Is there some memory reserved for the os or something?
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How did you manage to get 400mb!?!?!?!?! What rom are you running?
It does lag quite a bit at times which seems to go away after the use of a task killer but i don't use task killers anymore as i failed to see the point in them.
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You can't get 400Mb that must be a typo! unless you've created a Senseless ROM.
Even when I kill ever process that runs using the the fast reboot market app I still get less than 350Mb!
I have over 400MB free, stock ROM, Settings take nearly 18MB, so my guess is about 418MB free. Based on stock app manager. I have lots of apps, 3G Watchdog running and five full home screens. I had very same situation on previous DS. How much do you have?
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i can't believe my eyes here.....
I just tested it again and there was 440MB (458MB w/o Settings) and about 150MB used. But I'm OT, sorry.
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With LBC MOD i get
Total memory: 612MB
Used: 424MB
Free: 188MB
Running Virtuous Unity too, atm have 100mb free RAM. Can't say I think th phone is running slow though....
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Running Virtuous Unity too, atm have 100mb free RAM. Can't say I think th phone is running slow though....
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Sure not! Tried both roms and they work really FAST!
so the ram available is okay, but the 50% CPU is a problem i guess(i dont have a program to check that)
If you fell that your phone is slow even after wipe and flashing a new rom it might be a hardware issue.
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I just tested it again and there was 440MB (458MB w/o Settings) and about 150MB used. But I'm OT, sorry.
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Are you sure that you're not getting the and free and in use figures muddled?
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Check image in attachment.
That's the memory when i kill all unnecessary crap running.
With the needed apps running it varies let's say 350-380MB.
Using stock rom ( europe )
:O WOW, maybe is time for me to back to stock!, joking but wow...well, looking in that screen ( on settings) i get
185 MB used and 405 MB free
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100% sure
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Its saying used 486 and showing that I got only 138 free?? Is this normal?
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Its saying used 486 and showing that I got only 138 free?? Is this normal?
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Well that depends onbwhat you have running in the background. A stock rom does use alot of ram due to sense.
I got the. Runny 3d sence. 3.5 or whatever its called
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That will do it. Sense is a huge ram hog. And 3.5 was not made to work for our device so it tends to take more ram. Not a whole lot you can do.
Also you might want to pay close attention it every aspect of the rom your running. Know the sense version, os version and other info is important
Hmmm, I'm running the same ROM, and I have 357 free.
** Just an afterthought: Have you downloaded the latest 11.1 Kernel for RCMIX 3D?
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I don't know nothing about no kernel. Thing so I don't mess with that
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Free RAM does not matter. Android framework, Sense, installed apps (services) all take away from it. Android manages its RAM. Just ignore it. If it really bugs you install a Task Killer. But.... Task Killers IMO are uneeded and cause more issues than help. Not to start a task killer debate. Some swear by them and some don't. I am the latter.
There's an article that explains how Android runs better with ram being used than free.
Inspire 4G - CM 7.1 Nightly - TalonACE
Ever since I upgraded to ICS, RAM consumption is high in my atrix2. It used to have free RAM around 300 to 350 MB but now in ICS the fee RAM is always around 150 to 200 MB.
I am having same apps which I used to have on GB. Nothing changed on my phone. Can anybody advice me whats wrong with my phone?
Ex. Games like Temple Run are little bit sluggish in ICS whereas it was running smoothly in GB even though I had some apps in the background. Now in ICS it is sluggish even though there no other apps running in the background.
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Ever since I upgraded to ICS, RAM consumption is high in my atrix2. It used to have free RAM around 300 to 350 MB but now in ICS the fee RAM is always around 150 to 200 MB.
I am having same apps which I used to have on GB. Nothing changed on my phone. Can anybody advice me whats wrong with my phone?
Ex. Games like Temple Run are little bit sluggish in ICS whereas it was running smoothly in GB even though I had some apps in the background. Now in ICS it is sluggish even though there no other apps running in the background.
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ics certainly consumes more ram..nothing wrong with your phone..i have not experienced any game lag
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ics certainly consumes more ram..nothing wrong with your phone..i have not experienced any game lag
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We used to have task manager in GB but that's now vanished in ICS.
Can you suggest me any good task manager?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1882626
[Q] ICS update eating up the RAM
Please read, and search.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1882626
[Q] ICS update eating up the RAM
Please read, and search.
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Thanks but that does not provide me any solution.... it just explains the reason for more RAM consumption... I am currently facing lags in games...any suggestion?
Also can you suggest me any good task manager?
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Thanks but that does not provide me any solution.... it just explains the reason for more RAM consumption... I am currently facing lags in games...any suggestion?
Also can you suggest me any good task manager?
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Android has its own task manager, which is quite sufficient. What people don't seem to understand about RAM, is that it is meant to be used, not the other way around. Android, like Mac OS and Ubuntu, wants to use all the RAM it can, because that's how it was designed to work. There are settings (in Android we call them "minfree" settings) to tell the system how much RAM to leave free and available, but the rest is designed to fill up as fast as possible and stay that way.
Android can manage memory rather well (and the settings are still there to tweak if you just have to touch stuff) and having up to 300 percent more RAM makes a huge difference. There will be a few times where killing off a handful of tasks will speed things up, but overall you'll get the best performance out of your phone or tablet if you stop worrying about it and let Android be Android. If you need to live on the edge (and I know a lot of you guys do) root and hack your phone with some amazing custom ROM that has everything tweaked and allows you to travel forward in time -- I'm right there with ya, 'cause it's fun as hell.
But don't worry about how many apps are running on your phone, or about using widgets that tell you these things, because it just doesn't matter anymore.
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Long press home button, it will appear. Swipe to close apps.
Try with debugging mode enabled along with force GPU rendering from settings...
Task managers/killers are completely useless in android.The only use of task killers is when a rogue app keeps running in background consuming lots of CPU cycles.
After the ics update my phone too was a bit slow but then I factory reset it & then wiped the cache partition. I don't know what did the trick but it works great now.
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Go to development, background applications, at most 4.
This way lag will stop.
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What are you guys doing to improve Ram usage/management?
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Not touching it and accepting that this phone is gimped and that Samsung is bad at programming.
Sounds like what I'm gonna have to do...
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Short of AOSP or a non touchwiz-based ROM, there is nothing we can do but tinker with minfree values. Android's RAM management is excellent, and the biggest problem we have is Samsung's bloated stock apps and modifications. There is a reason they are putting 2gb of memory on their phones while others are content with 1gb.
Running Tweaked 3 helps. When my phone was stock I was lucky to have 40 or 50 MB of ram free. With Tweaked I usually have 60 to 80. If it gets too low reboot your phone. After a reboot it usually has close to 100 MB free. It's just like a computer. The longer it's on the more ram it uses.
I've developed a habit of going straight to task manager and clear ram before using apps and stuff. Usually I start at 80-95ish mb.
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When I was on the custom kernels I had nothing but problems with ram. I came to rely on Gemini task killer widget. Now that I'm on tweaked 3 with stock kernel, all of that has gone away and I rarely need to use it.
I'm not sure where the post is on xda but someone asked a similar question and I went on a rant on all the things I had tried in the past
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The hardest lesson of all
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What are you guys doing to improve Ram usage/management?
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This was the biggest "lesson learned" for me that's applicable to any phone I buy from now until I die.
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Basically you have a choice. You either except the bloatware from Samsung and Verizon and not install additional apps.
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You root the phone and get rid of the bloatware.
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However with the OTA updates the phone has got a lot snappier. I still stick with what I said above. From now on whenever I buy a phone I will check the run time memory and how much of it is being used out of the box. Samsung and Verizon should be ashamed of themselves.
Hi, is it possible to keep apps running in background when multitasking, because when I'm busy with facebook and I switch to Twitter. And then back to facebook (in less than 5min) the app has to start up again. I have this with 75% off all apps. It's very annoying. Does someone has a solution?
Running vipers 1.4.0
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Hi, is it possible to keep apps running in background when multitasking, because when I'm busy with facebook and I switch to Twitter. And then back to facebook (in less than 5min) the app has to start up again. I have this with 75% off all apps. It's very annoying. Does someone has a solution?
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i can't think something else but when you are pressing the home button the app stays in background but i don't know for how long
Instead of pressing back, press home and app should continue to run. At least that's been my experience. Best wishes.
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If you're apps reload you don't have enough ram. The sensation isn't blessed with 2gb, or even 1gb of ram like some of the newer phones are. You can try using Zram or hard Swap
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reinberto said:
Hi, is it possible to keep apps running in background when multitasking, because when I'm busy with facebook and I switch to Twitter. And then back to facebook (in less than 5min) the app has to start up again. I have this with 75% off all apps. It's very annoying. Does someone has a solution?
Running vipers 1.4.0
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In Venom Tweaks, Minfree settings chose Multitasking Extreme.
This decreases the minfree settings, allowing you to have better multitasking, but system may be a little slower
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In Venom Tweaks, Minfree settings chose Multitasking Extreme.
This decreases the minfree settings, allowing you to have better multitasking, but system may be a little slower
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Thanks, when i turned into extreme I have noticed difference but I stll have when I press home and then launch Twitter, followed by browser and then back to xda app it has to refresh complete page, and after 15 min. It shutsdown the apps when in background
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