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What's the max memory you ever have available?

I temp-rooted my Sensation and disabled all of the bloatware, but aired on the side of caution with stuff I wasn't sure about, so there may still be a few things that could go. I also used Startup Auditor so that no unnecessary apps run at boot, but even then, there's some I'm not sure about so I let them be.
Running Sense with no lwp, on a fresh boot, the max memory I ever have available is >180mb, after using it for a few hours I'm normally running around 110mb. I don't really believe in using task killers, as everything I've read said Android handles it on its own and it only waste battery and more memory to kill the tasks.
As most know, when the phone begins to run low on resources, Sense will reboot. So quite often throughout the day, Sense reboots on me. This also happens almost every single time I play a game like Grow or Cut The Rope..
So how much memory do you guys typically have available on a fresh boot? After hours of usage? Any Sense reboots? Any tricks you use?
This should be interesting to hear what others are running at!
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I haven't removed any bloatware yet. Max I've had has been 310 free. The one shown on "Running Services", not the Task killer included.
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Nice one! I use System Panel and the incl Task Killer to see avail memory and they are always the same reading, right now 127 but within Running Services it shows 223mb available...I wonder why the difference.
I feel a little better now, but still wonder why Sense always reboots itself if I have that much memory available...
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Haven't killed anything manually, ES File Explorer is running in the background, something is being synced over WIFI, 304 MB available.
By the way - this is on the updated version (1.35.00) and haven't checked the same scenario pre updating.

Updated version? Are s-off or outside the US?
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About 296 mb free.
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Wonder why the used and free combined come out to about 512. . . Don't we have 768?
Ps. This is in Running Services. Doesn't seem like it's anymore accurate than the window shade.

Nothing removed and running ADW since HTC doesn't know how to optimize there UI and I always have 302 available.
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After using Eugene's 7/9 temp perma-root, I was able to get 397mb free. (Had 410mb before I launched drocap2)
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Typically 110 MB. Today, after running Youtube/Browser and then closing them, I got 150. Dropped down to 140 again quickly however. Never had more... How do you guys get 300?! Disabled Sense?

I get around 290-305 free ram. I disabled alot of apps. System runs smooth. I'm actually running ADW EX and disabled com.HTC.launcher also. Is Checking Ram here in running services accurate?
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Firefall! said:
Typically 110 MB. Today, after running Youtube/Browser and then closing them, I got 150. Dropped down to 140 again quickly however. Never had more... How do you guys get 300?! Disabled Sense?
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Don't use the built-in task manager to check free ram. Use "running services".
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I get around 290-305 free ram. I disabled alot of apps. System runs smooth. I'm actually running ADW EX and disabled com.HTC.launcher also. Is Checking Ram here in running services accurate?
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Yes, accurate.
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I haven't frozen any bloatware apps either. They aren't really bothering me. Just wish I could use setCPU. I'm hovering around 400mb, but I also don't have a ton of apps.
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Ok, in Running Services I get something around 260 MB.

No bloatware removed and I'm at around 300
No home replacement app either.
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Max i had is 149 out of 558... I am so curious why the total is 558 instead of 768??? but i have never had sense rebooted even after couple of 720p mkv, playing games, web surfing...

About 340Mo after a fresh reboot and after manually killing all the unnecessary tasks (reader, tutorial, messaging, etc)
I've noticed that after about 48h of use, I can't get more than 240Mo after killing the same background tasks.
The worst I've seen was 70Mo after killing all tasks and 2 days of heavy use, it definitly needed a reboot ^^

leedroid 2.3.4 vs insertcoin 2.3.4

Hello which rom do you prefer as far as speed goes? I've used both and I'm having trouble deciding on one. Instercoin locks my gps so quickly and seems like everything is working perfectly while leedroid tends to be a little quicker but I had trouble with the no options to mount disk drive when usb was plugged in. Anyway what do you guys think to push my opinion one way or the other? Thanks.

ive tested EVERY rom/kernel available so far, and IMO, Insertcoin v2.1 A2.3.4 with unity v6 kernel is the best out there, on average i have 170mb free ram, smooth as hell, and still running 1.2ghz
using it with thyparency mod for 6x5 app menu, this fone is just how i want it...for the time being

How is your battery life?

Hi, when it comes to ROMs, I'd always test for myself
Just try them both and see which one you prefer, what works for me won't necessarily work for you

Solidus_n313 said:
ive tested EVERY rom/kernel available so far, and IMO, Insertcoin v2.1 A2.3.4 with unity v6 kernel is the best out there, on average i have 170mb free ram, smooth as hell, and still running 1.2ghz
using it with thyparency mod for 6x5 app menu, this fone is just how i want it...for the time being
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wow thats all the ram you have ive got 225mb free of ram with coredroid 2.0 and this is smooth as a babies ass lol............. oh and my battery last all day and some

I was having the same dilemma, and you all are making the choice even harder...lol

phonegod said:
wow thats all the ram you have ive got 225mb free of ram with coredroid 2.0 and this is smooth as a babies ass lol............. oh and my battery last all day and some
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That's the same I have with InsertCoin 2.2.1 and I get about 225-240 mb and i use Launcherpro and running it I have between 305-320 mb free.
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Darkmx2000 said:
That's the same I have with InsertCoin 2.2.1 and I get about 225-240 mb and i use Launcherpro and running it I have between 305-320 mb free.
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how did you get that much ram with insertcoin ? i tried every-possible way to go beyond 224mb never succeeded (even with launcherpro, adw and even golauncher) any tips ?

InsertCoins has been the smoothest out there for me. Just seems to get most things right and is very responsive IMHO

yacbos said:
how did you get that much ram with insertcoin ? i tried every-possible way to go beyond 224mb never succeeded (even with launcherpro, adw and even golauncher) any tips ?
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Did u wipe cache and data be4 u flash? I use insertcoin with launcherpro usually get 310+ mb free without launcher pro 275~290mb with sence
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i did everything the max i get is 220 deleted everything cache/delv...etc formated file sys to ext4 but nothing extra :S

I'm using InsertCoin and i get around 314mb

Task Manager or Running Apps
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i did everything the max i get is 220 deleted everything cache/delv...etc formated file sys to ext4 but nothing extra :S
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corona10 said:
I'm using InsertCoin and i get around 314mb
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You should specify if the free RAM is reported from HTC's Task Manager or from Settings>Applications>Running services.
Running Services always shows more "free RAM" compared to HTC's Task Manager.

InsertCoin FTW....!

@omar ur right the task manager is showing 200 while running services showing 311
So which is accurate ?
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On any Sense rom, full wipe + install, the only way I can get above even 150mb ram is to kill everything in the task manager.

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@omar ur right the task manager is showing 200 while running services showing 311
So which is accurate ?
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Since the running programs one is from Android & is the same as non HTC phones, i'd go would that.

What's killing my ram???

Its saying used 486 and showing that I got only 138 free?? Is this normal?
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Its saying used 486 and showing that I got only 138 free?? Is this normal?
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Well that depends onbwhat you have running in the background. A stock rom does use alot of ram due to sense.

I got the. Runny 3d sence. 3.5 or whatever its called
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That will do it. Sense is a huge ram hog. And 3.5 was not made to work for our device so it tends to take more ram. Not a whole lot you can do.
Also you might want to pay close attention it every aspect of the rom your running. Know the sense version, os version and other info is important

Hmmm, I'm running the same ROM, and I have 357 free.
** Just an afterthought: Have you downloaded the latest 11.1 Kernel for RCMIX 3D?
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I don't know nothing about no kernel. Thing so I don't mess with that
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Free RAM does not matter. Android framework, Sense, installed apps (services) all take away from it. Android manages its RAM. Just ignore it. If it really bugs you install a Task Killer. But.... Task Killers IMO are uneeded and cause more issues than help. Not to start a task killer debate. Some swear by them and some don't. I am the latter.

There's an article that explains how Android runs better with ram being used than free.
Inspire 4G - CM 7.1 Nightly - TalonACE

More RAM consumed in ICS

Ever since I upgraded to ICS, RAM consumption is high in my atrix2. It used to have free RAM around 300 to 350 MB but now in ICS the fee RAM is always around 150 to 200 MB.
I am having same apps which I used to have on GB. Nothing changed on my phone. Can anybody advice me whats wrong with my phone?
Ex. Games like Temple Run are little bit sluggish in ICS whereas it was running smoothly in GB even though I had some apps in the background. Now in ICS it is sluggish even though there no other apps running in the background.
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asdf20 said:
Ever since I upgraded to ICS, RAM consumption is high in my atrix2. It used to have free RAM around 300 to 350 MB but now in ICS the fee RAM is always around 150 to 200 MB.
I am having same apps which I used to have on GB. Nothing changed on my phone. Can anybody advice me whats wrong with my phone?
Ex. Games like Temple Run are little bit sluggish in ICS whereas it was running smoothly in GB even though I had some apps in the background. Now in ICS it is sluggish even though there no other apps running in the background.
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ics certainly consumes more ram..nothing wrong with your phone..i have not experienced any game lag
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devilhunter47 said:
ics certainly consumes more ram..nothing wrong with your phone..i have not experienced any game lag
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We used to have task manager in GB but that's now vanished in ICS.
Can you suggest me any good task manager?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1882626
[Q] ICS update eating up the RAM
Please read, and search.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1882626
[Q] ICS update eating up the RAM
Please read, and search.
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Thanks but that does not provide me any solution.... it just explains the reason for more RAM consumption... I am currently facing lags in games...any suggestion?
Also can you suggest me any good task manager?
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asdf20 said:
Thanks but that does not provide me any solution.... it just explains the reason for more RAM consumption... I am currently facing lags in games...any suggestion?
Also can you suggest me any good task manager?
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Android has its own task manager, which is quite sufficient. What people don't seem to understand about RAM, is that it is meant to be used, not the other way around. Android, like Mac OS and Ubuntu, wants to use all the RAM it can, because that's how it was designed to work. There are settings (in Android we call them "minfree" settings) to tell the system how much RAM to leave free and available, but the rest is designed to fill up as fast as possible and stay that way.
Android can manage memory rather well (and the settings are still there to tweak if you just have to touch stuff) and having up to 300 percent more RAM makes a huge difference. There will be a few times where killing off a handful of tasks will speed things up, but overall you'll get the best performance out of your phone or tablet if you stop worrying about it and let Android be Android. If you need to live on the edge (and I know a lot of you guys do) root and hack your phone with some amazing custom ROM that has everything tweaked and allows you to travel forward in time -- I'm right there with ya, 'cause it's fun as hell.
But don't worry about how many apps are running on your phone, or about using widgets that tell you these things, because it just doesn't matter anymore.
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Long press home button, it will appear. Swipe to close apps.

Try with debugging mode enabled along with force GPU rendering from settings...

Task managers/killers are completely useless in android.The only use of task killers is when a rogue app keeps running in background consuming lots of CPU cycles.
After the ics update my phone too was a bit slow but then I factory reset it & then wiped the cache partition. I don't know what did the trick but it works great now.
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Go to development, background applications, at most 4.
This way lag will stop.
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[Q] anyone can recommend a big RAM rom to me?

any rom base is ok, sense, aokp, cm...
thanks thanks thanks!!
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Download any CM ROM and don't install GAPPs.

You must try different ROMs and choose the one that suits you.
For Most RAM free, I think SlimBean is your best choice. Just see the attached screenshot.
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Ram works differently on andriod then on windows or other os. On our phones ram is not to big of concern , apps just get loaded into ram so its norm to show a high ram usage
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DESERT.TECH said:
Ram works differently on andriod then on windows or other os. On our phones ram is not to big of concern , apps just get loaded into ram so its norm to show a high ram usage
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I imagine you would only notice a difference if you're zipping in and out of multiple apps. And the little differences in amounts of RAM used would have little real world usage differences.