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desire s ram and cpu usage.

So i just rooted the phone and installed the virtuous unity rom. When i installed the rom i assumed it would take care of the ram and cpu problems which is why i didn't really care much. But since it didn't solve the problem, i'm starting to wonder where the hell all the cpu and ram power is going. On idle i only have about 150mb of ram available and my cpu is 50% in use. Is this normal? Can anything be done about it?
It's also very noticeable.

Strange.
Are you controlling the running services and application-tasks manually ?
I usually have around 400MB free ram and cpu usage is just on the normal range, and an ordinary task manager does the job.

dan-fish said:
It's also very noticeable.
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is your phone running slowly? 150Mb is loads or RAM, have you ever run out?
custom roms tend to make more use of RAM for caches and to improve performance etc....especially if you try sense 3.0 based rom which by nature will be larger.

How did you manage to get 400mb!?!?!?!?! What rom are you running?
It does lag quite a bit at times which seems to go away after the use of a task killer but i don't use task killers anymore as i failed to see the point in them.
also why does the phone claim to have 768mb when i can only see about 611mb. Is there some memory reserved for the os or something?

dan-fish said:
How did you manage to get 400mb!?!?!?!?! What rom are you running?
It does lag quite a bit at times which seems to go away after the use of a task killer but i don't use task killers anymore as i failed to see the point in them.
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You can't get 400Mb that must be a typo! unless you've created a Senseless ROM.
Even when I kill ever process that runs using the the fast reboot market app I still get less than 350Mb!

I have over 400MB free, stock ROM, Settings take nearly 18MB, so my guess is about 418MB free. Based on stock app manager. I have lots of apps, 3G Watchdog running and five full home screens. I had very same situation on previous DS. How much do you have?
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i can't believe my eyes here.....

I just tested it again and there was 440MB (458MB w/o Settings) and about 150MB used. But I'm OT, sorry.
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With LBC MOD i get
Total memory: 612MB
Used: 424MB
Free: 188MB

Running Virtuous Unity too, atm have 100mb free RAM. Can't say I think th phone is running slow though....
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chris5s said:
Running Virtuous Unity too, atm have 100mb free RAM. Can't say I think th phone is running slow though....
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Sure not! Tried both roms and they work really FAST!
so the ram available is okay, but the 50% CPU is a problem i guess(i dont have a program to check that)
If you fell that your phone is slow even after wipe and flashing a new rom it might be a hardware issue.

Numline1 said:
I just tested it again and there was 440MB (458MB w/o Settings) and about 150MB used. But I'm OT, sorry.
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Are you sure that you're not getting the and free and in use figures muddled?
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Check image in attachment.
That's the memory when i kill all unnecessary crap running.
With the needed apps running it varies let's say 350-380MB.
Using stock rom ( europe )

:O WOW, maybe is time for me to back to stock!, joking but wow...well, looking in that screen ( on settings) i get
185 MB used and 405 MB free

ben_pyett said:
Are you sure that you're not getting the and free and in use figures muddled?
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100% sure
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What's killing my ram???

Its saying used 486 and showing that I got only 138 free?? Is this normal?
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an2ane said:
Its saying used 486 and showing that I got only 138 free?? Is this normal?
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Well that depends onbwhat you have running in the background. A stock rom does use alot of ram due to sense.

I got the. Runny 3d sence. 3.5 or whatever its called
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That will do it. Sense is a huge ram hog. And 3.5 was not made to work for our device so it tends to take more ram. Not a whole lot you can do.
Also you might want to pay close attention it every aspect of the rom your running. Know the sense version, os version and other info is important

Hmmm, I'm running the same ROM, and I have 357 free.
** Just an afterthought: Have you downloaded the latest 11.1 Kernel for RCMIX 3D?
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I don't know nothing about no kernel. Thing so I don't mess with that
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Free RAM does not matter. Android framework, Sense, installed apps (services) all take away from it. Android manages its RAM. Just ignore it. If it really bugs you install a Task Killer. But.... Task Killers IMO are uneeded and cause more issues than help. Not to start a task killer debate. Some swear by them and some don't. I am the latter.

There's an article that explains how Android runs better with ram being used than free.
Inspire 4G - CM 7.1 Nightly - TalonACE

More RAM consumed in ICS

Ever since I upgraded to ICS, RAM consumption is high in my atrix2. It used to have free RAM around 300 to 350 MB but now in ICS the fee RAM is always around 150 to 200 MB.
I am having same apps which I used to have on GB. Nothing changed on my phone. Can anybody advice me whats wrong with my phone?
Ex. Games like Temple Run are little bit sluggish in ICS whereas it was running smoothly in GB even though I had some apps in the background. Now in ICS it is sluggish even though there no other apps running in the background.
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asdf20 said:
Ever since I upgraded to ICS, RAM consumption is high in my atrix2. It used to have free RAM around 300 to 350 MB but now in ICS the fee RAM is always around 150 to 200 MB.
I am having same apps which I used to have on GB. Nothing changed on my phone. Can anybody advice me whats wrong with my phone?
Ex. Games like Temple Run are little bit sluggish in ICS whereas it was running smoothly in GB even though I had some apps in the background. Now in ICS it is sluggish even though there no other apps running in the background.
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ics certainly consumes more ram..nothing wrong with your phone..i have not experienced any game lag
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devilhunter47 said:
ics certainly consumes more ram..nothing wrong with your phone..i have not experienced any game lag
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We used to have task manager in GB but that's now vanished in ICS.
Can you suggest me any good task manager?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1882626
[Q] ICS update eating up the RAM
Please read, and search.
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Apex_Strider said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1882626
[Q] ICS update eating up the RAM
Please read, and search.
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Thanks but that does not provide me any solution.... it just explains the reason for more RAM consumption... I am currently facing lags in games...any suggestion?
Also can you suggest me any good task manager?
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asdf20 said:
Thanks but that does not provide me any solution.... it just explains the reason for more RAM consumption... I am currently facing lags in games...any suggestion?
Also can you suggest me any good task manager?
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Android has its own task manager, which is quite sufficient. What people don't seem to understand about RAM, is that it is meant to be used, not the other way around. Android, like Mac OS and Ubuntu, wants to use all the RAM it can, because that's how it was designed to work. There are settings (in Android we call them "minfree" settings) to tell the system how much RAM to leave free and available, but the rest is designed to fill up as fast as possible and stay that way.
Android can manage memory rather well (and the settings are still there to tweak if you just have to touch stuff) and having up to 300 percent more RAM makes a huge difference. There will be a few times where killing off a handful of tasks will speed things up, but overall you'll get the best performance out of your phone or tablet if you stop worrying about it and let Android be Android. If you need to live on the edge (and I know a lot of you guys do) root and hack your phone with some amazing custom ROM that has everything tweaked and allows you to travel forward in time -- I'm right there with ya, 'cause it's fun as hell.
But don't worry about how many apps are running on your phone, or about using widgets that tell you these things, because it just doesn't matter anymore.
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Long press home button, it will appear. Swipe to close apps.

Try with debugging mode enabled along with force GPU rendering from settings...

Task managers/killers are completely useless in android.The only use of task killers is when a rogue app keeps running in background consuming lots of CPU cycles.
After the ics update my phone too was a bit slow but then I factory reset it & then wiped the cache partition. I don't know what did the trick but it works great now.
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Go to development, background applications, at most 4.
This way lag will stop.
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Multitasking

Hello everybody
I used an apple iPhone 4s recently.
I noticed that it allows me to switch upto 8 applications without reloading them that too in a mere 512 mb ram.
But our HTC one x boasting 1gb ram allows me to switch upto 4 applications only.
I know that HTC has restricted it, and we can increase the limit unofficially.
But even then I am not sure about performance implications when we do that.
Also please let me know how much applications you can switch in Samsung galaxy s3 and Samsung galaxy nexus.
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raddy said:
Hello everybody
I used an apple iPhone 4s recently.
I noticed that it allows me to switch upto 8 applications without reloading them that too in a mere 512 mb ram.
But our HTC one x boasting 1gb ram allows me to switch upto 4 applications only.
I know that HTC has restricted it, and we can increase the limit unofficially.
But even then I am not sure about performance implications when we do that.
Also please let me know how much applications you can switch in Samsung galaxy s3 and Samsung galaxy nexus.
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root, flash custom ROM and make whatever changes you need to get where you want, that is if you are on firmware that allows this.

bimmernut318 said:
root, flash custom ROM and make whatever changes you need to get where you want, that is if you are on firmware that allows this.
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I have already mentioned the modding possibility.
But, i am not sure the performance implications of having more than 4 apps in the background.

This has been discussed a lot... Just search for the multitasking threads.
In summary, HTC imposed the limit to save battery life. Most ROM developers have removed the limit so multitasking has been fixed.
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raddy said:
I have already mentioned the modding possibility.
But, i am not sure the performance implications of having more than 4 apps in the background.
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What's the point of the thread then, you don't want to root because it may have a negative impact of performance? That's usually the reason why we root. To push our device to the limit
The only way to truly know is to try
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HTC didn't limit the number of apps for the sake of battery, but more to offset the drain on memory and speed that sense causes. You have to remember that the sense framework adds a lot of things on top of the base android OS. All that extra stuff running in the background uses memory and by using somewhat harsh memory management, they can keep all sense stuff running smooth.
If you switch to one of the new builds of CM10, you will see battery life is very close to sense roms, without the horrible multitasking.
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Kindatired said:
HTC didn't limit the number of apps for the sake of battery, but more to offset the drain on memory and speed that sense causes. You have to remember that the sense framework adds a lot of things on top of the base android OS. All that extra stuff running in the background uses memory and by using somewhat harsh memory management, they can keep all sense stuff running smooth.
If you switch to one of the new builds of CM10, you will see battery life is very close to sense roms, without the horrible multitasking.
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I see.
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What I said was, our HTC One x may not capable of running more than 4 applications at a time even if we tweak the operating system.
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So are you trying to say that all the other mobile phones are able to switch upto 8 applications simultaneously ?
Is HTC sense such a piece of bloatware ?
Why doesn't.HTC store the applications state as did by apple iPhone to converse the battery.
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HTC Sense limits multitasking even in HTC One S ?
Samsung Galaxy S3 doesn't have this issue ?
Why not HTC Sense store the background application's state?

How regularly do you multi-task with 8 apps? I use the ViperXL custom ROM and you can tweak your heart out on multi-tasking. Try it out - may be you could reach that number or greater.
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[Q] ROM RAM question

Im not really sure if this is against the forum rules or not and if it is, im sorry and you can lock it. But what rom has the most ammount of free ram, i keep flashing roms and they usually have the same ammount, but maybe its just me because i always flash sense roms since i love the sense camera. Any ideas or suggestions? The main reason im looking for the most ammount of ram is i always use alot of background applications like LWP, a different launcher, weather bug, airdroid, and etc and my phone starts to bog down eventually and its quite annoying when need to reply to an email fast from my phone and the lag between the current app im in to the home screen then into the launcher and then into the app makes me want to murder my phone.

MrKickstand said:
Im not really sure if this is against the forum rules or not and if it is, im sorry and you can lock it. But what rom has the most ammount of free ram, i keep flashing roms and they usually have the same ammount, but maybe its just me because i always flash sense roms since i love the sense camera. Any ideas or suggestions? The main reason im looking for the most ammount of ram is i always use alot of background applications like LWP, a different launcher, weather bug, airdroid, and etc and my phone starts to bog down eventually and its quite annoying when need to reply to an email fast from my phone and the lag between the current app im in to the home screen then into the launcher and then into the app makes me want to murder my phone.
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I also run a lot of apps at same time and never noticed a difference between roms
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31ken31 said:
I also run a lot of apps at same time and never noticed a difference between roms
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What rom do you use?

The amount of free ram available will have little to do with the performance of the rom. Typically aosp roms will have more ram available due to the lack of sense.
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exad said:
The amount of free ram available will have little to do with the performance of the rom. Typically aosp roms will have more ram available due to the lack of sense.
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I assumed it was the RAM because i flashed Elemental X and overclocked it a littler and it didnt have any performance increase at all.. maybe its just my phone haha.

You could try CyanogenMod 10, it has much better multitasking then any Sense ROM, since it's a pure aosp Rom, in theory any other Aosp Roms should have more Ram available because Sense tends to bog things down with all of it's extra features and background processes that use up Ram.
So use a AOSP Rom if you want better multitasking and less things to reload or refresh.