[Q] ROM RAM question - AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL

Im not really sure if this is against the forum rules or not and if it is, im sorry and you can lock it. But what rom has the most ammount of free ram, i keep flashing roms and they usually have the same ammount, but maybe its just me because i always flash sense roms since i love the sense camera. Any ideas or suggestions? The main reason im looking for the most ammount of ram is i always use alot of background applications like LWP, a different launcher, weather bug, airdroid, and etc and my phone starts to bog down eventually and its quite annoying when need to reply to an email fast from my phone and the lag between the current app im in to the home screen then into the launcher and then into the app makes me want to murder my phone.

MrKickstand said:
Im not really sure if this is against the forum rules or not and if it is, im sorry and you can lock it. But what rom has the most ammount of free ram, i keep flashing roms and they usually have the same ammount, but maybe its just me because i always flash sense roms since i love the sense camera. Any ideas or suggestions? The main reason im looking for the most ammount of ram is i always use alot of background applications like LWP, a different launcher, weather bug, airdroid, and etc and my phone starts to bog down eventually and its quite annoying when need to reply to an email fast from my phone and the lag between the current app im in to the home screen then into the launcher and then into the app makes me want to murder my phone.
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I also run a lot of apps at same time and never noticed a difference between roms
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I also run a lot of apps at same time and never noticed a difference between roms
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What rom do you use?

The amount of free ram available will have little to do with the performance of the rom. Typically aosp roms will have more ram available due to the lack of sense.
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The amount of free ram available will have little to do with the performance of the rom. Typically aosp roms will have more ram available due to the lack of sense.
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I assumed it was the RAM because i flashed Elemental X and overclocked it a littler and it didnt have any performance increase at all.. maybe its just my phone haha.

You could try CyanogenMod 10, it has much better multitasking then any Sense ROM, since it's a pure aosp Rom, in theory any other Aosp Roms should have more Ram available because Sense tends to bog things down with all of it's extra features and background processes that use up Ram.
So use a AOSP Rom if you want better multitasking and less things to reload or refresh.

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[Q] Buying an Inspire when it's back in stock..

So I'll be coming from a S***sung Craptivate after it killed its own memory, resulting in not having enough room to load a back-up or a fresh ROM after a full wipe. (Phone is actually in two pieces, divided straight across the center) I had the phone flashed with a rooted deodexed and lagfixed ROM (Paragon RC6) and undervolted and stock clock speed (1ghz). I also had a different launcher, text based icons, widgetlocker, basically nothing was "stock" about it, but that was out of need, to fix the shutdown problem, the crappy GPS, the crappy sound, the crappy speed, the crappy lag.. etc etc..
I will be buying a Desire when it is back in stock locally, hopefully with tomorrow's shipment. But I have a few questions...
How much different is everything about modding this phone? I've read the guides and the stickies, and liking the Ingersol ROM (with just a battery notification mod, would like it to be white and turn red below 15% instead of the crazy colors it does.)
I only have 3 questions really... but one or more may become more. Please bare with me.
1. It looks like to root I'd have to DOWNGRADE.. what does this downgrade affect, or is an up-to-date version flashed after the root?
2. Can anybody tell me what HTC Sense is all about? Is it the launcher? It seems like a combination of apps already out there but from HTC (Flip to silence for example). What do I lose by going with a non-sense ROM? Also I take it using Desire based ROMs don't use Sense? But why would people want to use a ROM based off a different phone altogether?
3. Gingerbread ROMs (CM7 and the like) were buggier than all hell on the Captivate. Sure it looked good (but that's theming) and was supposed to be fast, but all over the Craptivate develpment forums was posts about widgets/apps not working, not refreshing, or force closing constantly with 2.3.3. A lot of the phones functionality was lost too, like the ability to take pictures, or use it for social networking (Facebook not working..). How do the 2.3.3 ROMs take to the Inspire?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advanced!
You need to downgrade to get unknown sources back. HTC sense is basically a theme that designed for there phone if I'm not mistaking. The gingerbread themes here are very smooth and good. You will encounter bugs but that will always be fix from the developers
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1. It looks like to root I'd have to DOWNGRADE.. what does this downgrade affect, or is an up-to-date version flashed after the root?
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It only enables the exploit to get S-OFF (think recovery 2e from the Captivate, vs 3e which required signed update.zip's). Once done, you don't have to worry about it again. There are plenty of stock based ROM's like TPC or dilligaf for you to choose from if you so desire.
2. Can anybody tell me what HTC Sense is all about? Is it the launcher? It seems like a combination of apps already out there but from HTC (Flip to silence for example). What do I lose by going with a non-sense ROM? Also I take it using Desire based ROMs don't use Sense? But why would people want to use a ROM based off a different phone altogether?
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Sense is more than the launcher, it is a complete rework of the Android framework, like TouchWiz, but nowhere near as craptacular. It is actually useful. Any HTC sourced ROM will originally have Sense in it, but some HTC ROM's that say "no-sense" have a good chunk of that removed and are more like AOSP Android, but not quite all the way. Then there are other ROM's like CyanogenMod, which are based on actual Google AOSP code and have NO HTC software in them. It really is your choice which to use. I tend to flip between them. My personal favorites are CM7 and RCMixHD 5.9.4. I would flash them both to see what your preference is.
3. Gingerbread ROMs (CM7 and the like) were buggier than all hell on the Captivate. Sure it looked good (but that's theming) and was supposed to be fast, but all over the Craptivate develpment forums was posts about widgets/apps not working, not refreshing, or force closing constantly with 2.3.3. A lot of the phones functionality was lost too, like the ability to take pictures, or use it for social networking (Facebook not working..). How do the 2.3.3 ROMs take to the Inspire?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advanced!
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They work perfectly, with only the minorest of troubles that tend to be app specific, like the Gmail word wrap issue(which is not even a big deal at all). I haven't used a Froyo ROM in weeks.
And finally, welcome from another former Craptivate user! You will be MUCH happier with this phone.
Thanks!
In terms of stability, "snappiness" (at 1ghz clock speed), and resource consumption/management, is there a noticeable difference between Sense based, and AOSP based ROMs?
I'm also looking for decent battery life. I understand that screen on time and brightness, along with reception are the biggest consumers, but do one of the above based ROMs seem to do a better job of managing power consumption?
I am pretty weary of flashing a GB ROM just because of the numerous compatibility issues that I witnessed on the craptivate forum..
On the RCmix ROM, does it come overclocked by default? It says to use SetCPU to adjust it, so I'm assuming it runs at 1.0 ghz right off the flash? That ROM along with the theme with the white notification bar icons seems to be what I'll be flashing first. Thanks for the helpful information thus far!
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Thanks!
In terms of stability, "snappiness" (at 1ghz clock speed), and resource consumption/management, is there a noticeable difference between Sense based, and AOSP based ROMs?
I'm also looking for decent battery life. I understand that screen on time and brightness, along with reception are the biggest consumers, but do one of the above based ROMs seem to do a better job of managing power consumption?
I am pretty weary of flashing a GB ROM just because of the numerous compatibility issues that I witnessed on the craptivate forum..
On the RCmix ROM, does it come overclocked by default? It says to use SetCPU to adjust it, so I'm assuming it runs at 1.0 ghz right off the flash? That ROM along with the theme with the white notification bar icons seems to be what I'll be flashing first. Thanks for the helpful information thus far!
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The only thing about sense that really eats battery is the constant data usage of the HTC sense account, if you don't set up an account, your battery life should be rather good. As far as the gb roms they are all working very well, and you will find a small bug here and there, but all the major roms are very good daily drivers.
Most of the roms here have numorous tweaks for stability and snappiness, and you would probably be pleased with any of the major ones. I would say there is more difference between stock sense and tweaked sense than tweaked sense and no sense as far as performance goes. I ran stock for all of a few hours when I got this phone, and have been on a few roms with and without sense, and all of them have been very snappy and smooth.
Any of the major roms that support clock speed adjustments will use setcpu to adjust it, you can run at basically any speed setcpu lets you(within reason, and check the rom post for exceptions and recomendations) I currently run at a maximum of 1.5ghz on miui and my battery life is just as good as it was running 1.2ghz on android revolution.
And last but not least, don't be afraid of gingerbread here, most major bugs have been worked out and 90% of the problems posted about are due to the installer, not the rom.
Welcome aboard!
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Just an add on note:
Gingerbread sense ROMs do not have overclocking right now. But really they are so butter smooth especially when compared to a captivate. RCMix5.9.3 has no compatibility issues I have found.
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Is there any gingerbread non sense Rom ?
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XAviierG said:
Is there any gingerbread non sense Rom ?
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MIUI and CM7 pop to mind. Those are AOSP sourced.
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id10terrordfw said:
MIUI and CM7 pop to mind. Those are AOSP sourced.
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Those are gingerbread? I thought they werent.
XAviierG said:
Those are gingerbread? I thought they werent.
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Yes they are. 2.3.3.
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XAviierG said:
Those are gingerbread? I thought they werent.
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Yep they are GB. There is also Ultimate Droid, which I am using now. This is the best ROM I have used so far, but all of them have been rock solid as far as performance goes. I don't think you will find a bad ROM on here. You will recognize some of the devs from the captivate forums.
As for my battery life. I have been unplugged for just over 15hrs and I am down to 21%. That is with 2 push email accounts, 3 hours streaming rhapsody, 2 hours mp3 music, 30 mins of calls, and about 1 hour of browsing/gaming. It also helps that I am on wifi for 90% of the day.
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Yep they are GB. There is also Ultimate Droid, which I am using now. This is the best ROM I have used so far, but all of them have been rock solid as far as performance goes. I don't think you will find a bad ROM on here. You will recognize some of the devs from the captivate forums.
As for my battery life. I have been unplugged for just over 15hrs and I am down to 21%. That is with 2 push email accounts, 3 hours streaming rhapsody, 2 hours mp3 music, 30 mins of calls, and about 1 hour of browsing/gaming. It also helps that I am on wifi for 90% of the day.
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Have you tried Phoenix
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Xaviier my man u may post,but a lot of times your information is short with not much Info.lmao buddy cm7 is pure gingerbread and miui. And htc sense is they user interface...meaning its the over lay on top of android. Without the ui, it would be pure vanillia.sense pretty much makes the experience of using the layout of android a lot more customizable with exclusive sense Widgets,sync options,even that beautiful clock. Kinda like how ur cappy had the touchwiz interface,just a lot better.
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Xaviier my man u may post,but a lot of times your information is short with not much Info.lmao buddy cm7 is pure gingerbread and miui. And htc sense is they user interface...meaning its the over lay on top of android. Without the ui, it would be pure vanillia.sense pretty much makes the experience of using the layout of android a lot more customizable with exclusive sense Widgets,sync options,even that beautiful clock. Kinda like how ur cappy had the touchwiz interface,just a lot better.
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Haha yeah I do post a bit. IM always on my phone and its just everything going on and I try to make It simple. Once again thanks for putting that all out
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Have you tried Phoenix
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Not yet but I plan to. I used Adam's ROMs on my Captivate and they were top notch.
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Not yet but I plan to. I used Adam's ROMs on my Captivate and they were top notch.
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yeah its good. IM currently using the ultimate droid
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Are there any benefits of going with the GB version of RCmix versus the Froyo version? Basically I don't feel comfortable flashing an OS not designed for the device so I'm leaning towards the Froyo based version of that ROM.
Thanks agian for all the help. Really looking forward to this phone. Using a S***sung Mythic for the time being, I can't even type on this phone...
It all depends what theme goes with you.
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GTIVRon said:
Are there any benefits of going with the GB version of RCmix versus the Froyo version? Basically I don't feel comfortable flashing an OS not designed for the device so I'm leaning towards the Froyo based version of that ROM.
Thanks agian for all the help. Really looking forward to this phone. Using a S***sung Mythic for the time being, I can't even type on this phone...
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I've gotten better performance out of the GB ROMs I have used. I believe that ROM is based off the leaked GB for the Desire HD which is the same thing as the Inspire, so you shouldn't have any worries about it not being designed for this phone.
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yeah its good. IM currently using the ultimate droid
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Yea, the UD ROM is really good. I've been on it for the past week or so and it is running like a champ. Making it really hard to switch to something else.

desire s ram and cpu usage.

So i just rooted the phone and installed the virtuous unity rom. When i installed the rom i assumed it would take care of the ram and cpu problems which is why i didn't really care much. But since it didn't solve the problem, i'm starting to wonder where the hell all the cpu and ram power is going. On idle i only have about 150mb of ram available and my cpu is 50% in use. Is this normal? Can anything be done about it?
It's also very noticeable.
Strange.
Are you controlling the running services and application-tasks manually ?
I usually have around 400MB free ram and cpu usage is just on the normal range, and an ordinary task manager does the job.
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It's also very noticeable.
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is your phone running slowly? 150Mb is loads or RAM, have you ever run out?
custom roms tend to make more use of RAM for caches and to improve performance etc....especially if you try sense 3.0 based rom which by nature will be larger.
How did you manage to get 400mb!?!?!?!?! What rom are you running?
It does lag quite a bit at times which seems to go away after the use of a task killer but i don't use task killers anymore as i failed to see the point in them.
also why does the phone claim to have 768mb when i can only see about 611mb. Is there some memory reserved for the os or something?
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How did you manage to get 400mb!?!?!?!?! What rom are you running?
It does lag quite a bit at times which seems to go away after the use of a task killer but i don't use task killers anymore as i failed to see the point in them.
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You can't get 400Mb that must be a typo! unless you've created a Senseless ROM.
Even when I kill ever process that runs using the the fast reboot market app I still get less than 350Mb!
I have over 400MB free, stock ROM, Settings take nearly 18MB, so my guess is about 418MB free. Based on stock app manager. I have lots of apps, 3G Watchdog running and five full home screens. I had very same situation on previous DS. How much do you have?
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i can't believe my eyes here.....
I just tested it again and there was 440MB (458MB w/o Settings) and about 150MB used. But I'm OT, sorry.
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With LBC MOD i get
Total memory: 612MB
Used: 424MB
Free: 188MB
Running Virtuous Unity too, atm have 100mb free RAM. Can't say I think th phone is running slow though....
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Running Virtuous Unity too, atm have 100mb free RAM. Can't say I think th phone is running slow though....
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Sure not! Tried both roms and they work really FAST!
so the ram available is okay, but the 50% CPU is a problem i guess(i dont have a program to check that)
If you fell that your phone is slow even after wipe and flashing a new rom it might be a hardware issue.
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I just tested it again and there was 440MB (458MB w/o Settings) and about 150MB used. But I'm OT, sorry.
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Are you sure that you're not getting the and free and in use figures muddled?
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Check image in attachment.
That's the memory when i kill all unnecessary crap running.
With the needed apps running it varies let's say 350-380MB.
Using stock rom ( europe )
:O WOW, maybe is time for me to back to stock!, joking but wow...well, looking in that screen ( on settings) i get
185 MB used and 405 MB free
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Are you sure that you're not getting the and free and in use figures muddled?
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100% sure
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Observation on sense 4.0.4 (cleanrom 4.5)

I have to applaud HTC for somewhat following development of their device. They added a toggle to change the behavior of the recent app button so there's no need to mod it. On CR 4.5 I also have 770mb of ram visible. Maybe they did some optimization. Even multitasking is a tad better without Scott's multitasking mod.
I have a bug that shows "G" when I'm on HSPA+ but doesn't really affect speeds.
Overall I would say this OTA is quite good. The overall feel is much snappier.
Edit: ok, so the multitasking is pretty boss so far. The last 4 apps were still cached after not touching phone for 30 minutes. It COULD be placebo but god damn I'm enjoying 4.0.4.
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I'm happy to see this review, as I'm planning on upgrading from CleanROM 4.2 to 4.5 asap. However, I'm not sure that this mini-review is so much about the newest Sense as it is about CleanROM. How can you be sure that the upgrades that you're noticing aren't from Scott's work, not baked into Sense?
The recent button behavior swap is new from stock 4.0.4. The RAM increase has to be from HTC directly because we have no kernel source.
As for multitasking, I'm doing a little bit of assuming. Scott likes to put his mods separate from the rom itself so people can choose what they like. Only EQS, 4G icon and some ATT specific mods were included in the CleanMod install. On top of that, this is the best multitasking I've seen on any rom. If Scott DID do something with the multitasking I'll be glad to be corrected.
Either way, everyone wins with this update.
EDIT: HSPA+ with 2.09 radio, I'm getting speeds I normally get on speed test. I hear people have problems with LTE? Not sure.
Here's a screen shot of the ram
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So does it mean it comes with a new kernel?
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Yes i think so
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Here's a screen shot of the ram
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Oooooh. Shiny!
I wonder if CM10/AOKP can take advantage of this new kernel?
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That's awesome. I got 672 total on mine only. Notice a difference in speed?
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belyle said:
I'm happy to see this review, as I'm planning on upgrading from CleanROM 4.2 to 4.5 asap. However, I'm not sure that this mini-review is so much about the newest Sense as it is about CleanROM. How can you be sure that the upgrades that you're noticing aren't from Scott's work, not baked into Sense?
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I used stock 2.23, I can confirm those sense options are from stock. Also, I noticed the interfacei n general is much smoother and snappier. They also added a fade effect when turning pages on the home screen which is nice.
So wait, HTC freed up about 100mb of RAM with this latest leak? That's awesome! I think I'm gonna have to update my ROM now, still on CleanROM SE 2.6.
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So wait, HTC freed up about 100mb of RAM with this latest leak? That's awesome! I think I'm gonna have to update my ROM now, still on CleanROM SE 2.6.
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I think that's just gravy. No 4.0.3 based rom even comes close to the multitasking that the leaked 4.0.4 has. They must have tweaked their extremely aggressive memory management to allow much better memory management. Of course YMMV, but I've just been testing it over the course of the day. Most of the apps within the first 4-5 slots can get cached no problem if you press home.
People complain, but this might be the reason why HTC have not released their kernel. HOX IS their flagship, so maybe they didn't want to release a crippled kernel for HOXL users. I'm very impressed that they are listening to community feedback.
How's battery life with the multitasking change?
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So wait, HTC freed up about 100mb of RAM with this latest leak? That's awesome! I think I'm gonna have to update my ROM now, still on CleanROM SE 2.6.
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Yeah HTC freed up a whole lot of ram and I've noticed the Sense Launcher transition is slightly altered. Overall, much snappier!
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It's not a leak, it is an official update for HTC Asia xl, for Singtel Singapore.
I noticed the clock app now remembers what tab you were on, eg alarms.
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I noticed the clock app now remembers what tab you were on, eg alarms.
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That was my biggest pet peeve!
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That was my biggest pet peeve!
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Yea same, I think it was on a lot of peoples lists as a silly thing.
It is nice now that it is fixed!
Another thing I noticed is that the contacts "Updates" and "Gallery" now populate with stuff from Facebook, rather than just infinitely saying "Loading".
Does 4.0.4 fix the static/hiss problem when playing music from the headphone out as mentioned in this thread?:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1720212
If it does then i'm sold. Looking to get rid of my GS3 for this - which although wonderful, doesn't play well with my network and drains way too quickly on standby + HSPA.
Can someone please tell me what the kernel build date is?
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Does 4.0.4 fix the static/hiss problem when playing music from the headphone out as mentioned in this thread?:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1720212
If it does then i'm sold. Looking to get rid of my GS3 for this - which although wonderful, doesn't play well with my network and drains way too quickly on standby + HSPA.
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I've never had this problem and I use my headphones to listen to music and podcasts every single day. tested with both beats on and off, using both my IEMs and headphones and still no hiss.
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Can someone please tell me what the kernel build date is?
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July 12.

Multitasking

Hello everybody
I used an apple iPhone 4s recently.
I noticed that it allows me to switch upto 8 applications without reloading them that too in a mere 512 mb ram.
But our HTC one x boasting 1gb ram allows me to switch upto 4 applications only.
I know that HTC has restricted it, and we can increase the limit unofficially.
But even then I am not sure about performance implications when we do that.
Also please let me know how much applications you can switch in Samsung galaxy s3 and Samsung galaxy nexus.
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Hello everybody
I used an apple iPhone 4s recently.
I noticed that it allows me to switch upto 8 applications without reloading them that too in a mere 512 mb ram.
But our HTC one x boasting 1gb ram allows me to switch upto 4 applications only.
I know that HTC has restricted it, and we can increase the limit unofficially.
But even then I am not sure about performance implications when we do that.
Also please let me know how much applications you can switch in Samsung galaxy s3 and Samsung galaxy nexus.
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root, flash custom ROM and make whatever changes you need to get where you want, that is if you are on firmware that allows this.
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root, flash custom ROM and make whatever changes you need to get where you want, that is if you are on firmware that allows this.
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I have already mentioned the modding possibility.
But, i am not sure the performance implications of having more than 4 apps in the background.
This has been discussed a lot... Just search for the multitasking threads.
In summary, HTC imposed the limit to save battery life. Most ROM developers have removed the limit so multitasking has been fixed.
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I have already mentioned the modding possibility.
But, i am not sure the performance implications of having more than 4 apps in the background.
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What's the point of the thread then, you don't want to root because it may have a negative impact of performance? That's usually the reason why we root. To push our device to the limit
The only way to truly know is to try
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HTC didn't limit the number of apps for the sake of battery, but more to offset the drain on memory and speed that sense causes. You have to remember that the sense framework adds a lot of things on top of the base android OS. All that extra stuff running in the background uses memory and by using somewhat harsh memory management, they can keep all sense stuff running smooth.
If you switch to one of the new builds of CM10, you will see battery life is very close to sense roms, without the horrible multitasking.
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HTC didn't limit the number of apps for the sake of battery, but more to offset the drain on memory and speed that sense causes. You have to remember that the sense framework adds a lot of things on top of the base android OS. All that extra stuff running in the background uses memory and by using somewhat harsh memory management, they can keep all sense stuff running smooth.
If you switch to one of the new builds of CM10, you will see battery life is very close to sense roms, without the horrible multitasking.
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I see.
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What I said was, our HTC One x may not capable of running more than 4 applications at a time even if we tweak the operating system.
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So are you trying to say that all the other mobile phones are able to switch upto 8 applications simultaneously ?
Is HTC sense such a piece of bloatware ?
Why doesn't.HTC store the applications state as did by apple iPhone to converse the battery.
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HTC Sense limits multitasking even in HTC One S ?
Samsung Galaxy S3 doesn't have this issue ?
Why not HTC Sense store the background application's state?
How regularly do you multi-task with 8 apps? I use the ViperXL custom ROM and you can tweak your heart out on multi-tasking. Try it out - may be you could reach that number or greater.
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How to open apps faster

There are some apps like browser, fb, tapatalk, whatsapp, etc which I use very often.
They take from 1-3 secs to open. Is there any way to keep these apps in memory, in order to open them faster? I noticed that cached apps are mostly some apos I never use. I compare it to my iPhone which opens apps immediately. Is there any solution?
Edit: don't tell me to oc, I'm asking a different thing
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What are you using for a Rom? Sense 4 Roms tend to kill background processes pretty aggressively to keep the launcher in memory.
I've noticed that if I run something like Hypernonsense Rom, apps like the ones you mentioned open much quicker than the same apps on a Sense 4 Rom. However I'm currently into Sense 4 so I'll take the extra second.
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gustav30 said:
What are you using for a Rom? Sense 4 Roms tend to kill background processes pretty aggressively to keep the launcher in memory.
I've noticed that if I run something like Hypernonsense Rom, apps like the ones you mentioned open much quicker than the same apps on a Sense 4 Rom. However I'm currently into Sense 4 so I'll take the extra second.
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Yes see my specs. I want to know if there os a way to keep desired apps in memory. The don't even consume that much memory, max 100M. I don't want to change my ROM, not my setup
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perhaps zram or swap but may end up hurting more than helping..
ziddey said:
perhaps zram or swap but may end up hurting more than helping..
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That's what I think too. How does iPhone manage to open apps so quickly?
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Zram helped when I was on Viper...
Also, Anthrax kernel was better than bricked, IMO.
CM10 is a lot better than ViperS... apps are loading faster, and things are much snappier... on default settings... try it out... but then again you seem to prefer Sense to Holo...
SleepyKrushna said:
Zram helped when I was on Viper...
Also, Anthrax kernel was better than bricked, IMO.
CM10 is a lot better than ViperS... apps are loading faster, and things are much snappier... on default settings... try it out... but then again you seem to prefer Sense to Holo...
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+1 for ZRAM in ViperS
Just wayyyy awesome, Quick access while Switching apps..No lags in Opening apps as well as App drawer..
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But Zram eats more battery ? No
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xeloni said:
But Zram eats more battery ? No
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Oui, it does eat some more battery... but it also makes the phone very snappy.....
Anyway I use DS Battery Saver (free for XDA users)... it switches off 3G on screen off... and it has loads of other options... try it.... getting awesome standby times with it...
elvisypi said:
Yes see my specs. I want to know if there os a way to keep desired apps in memory. The don't even consume that much memory, max 100M. I don't want to change my ROM, not my setup
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Download Pimp My Rom from the Play Store and go to the TOOLS tab then click on Lock Apps in Memory. You can then select which apps you want to have locked in memory.
I am just reading the sensation xe threads because I ordered it and is on the way, but currently I am using my old budget android, which had lots of lag (and one of the main reasons I actually ordered the new sensation xe).
The other day I found this thread and installed this and it is just insane at removing lag and doesn't pump up the cpu or use more battery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
The developer's reason for why it works seem to be incorrect, and other people (including android's own developers) don't know exactly why it is working either (other than it's not the reasons stated by the developer), but just about everyone agrees that whatever the reason, it does work and significantly (on any non new / top-of-the-line phone because those don't have lag anyway).
It is also available at the play store if you want auto updates and to say thank you to the awesome guy who developed it:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lcis.seeder
pwoita said:
I am just reading the sensation xe threads because I ordered it and is on the way, but currently I am using my old budget android, which had lots of lag (and one of the main reasons I actually ordered the new sensation xe).
The other day I found this thread and installed this and it is just insane at removing lag and doesn't pump up the cpu or use more battery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
The developer's reason for why it works seem to be incorrect, and other people (including android's own developers) don't know exactly why it is working either (other than it's not the reasons stated by the developer), but just about everyone agrees that whatever the reason, it does work and significantly (on any non new / top-of-the-line phone because those don't have lag anyway).
It is also available at the play store if you want auto updates and to say thank you to the awesome guy who developed it:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lcis.seeder
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It forces the CPU to stay online and not idle because it wakes it up every second, so that's probably why there's a speed increase.
pwoita said:
I am just reading the sensation xe threads because I ordered it and is on the way, but currently I am using my old budget android, which had lots of lag (and one of the main reasons I actually ordered the new sensation xe).
The other day I found this thread and installed this and it is just insane at removing lag and doesn't pump up the cpu or use more battery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
The developer's reason for why it works seem to be incorrect, and other people (including android's own developers) don't know exactly why it is working either (other than it's not the reasons stated by the developer), but just about everyone agrees that whatever the reason, it does work and significantly (on any non new / top-of-the-line phone because those don't have lag anyway).
It is also available at the play store if you want auto updates and to say thank you to the awesome guy who developed it:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lcis.seeder
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Well, actually I tried it, but fir me it makes no difference AT ALL. I think it's a placebo effect. However I must say that I don't usually notice lags with my ROM
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