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What's the max memory you ever have available?

I temp-rooted my Sensation and disabled all of the bloatware, but aired on the side of caution with stuff I wasn't sure about, so there may still be a few things that could go. I also used Startup Auditor so that no unnecessary apps run at boot, but even then, there's some I'm not sure about so I let them be.
Running Sense with no lwp, on a fresh boot, the max memory I ever have available is >180mb, after using it for a few hours I'm normally running around 110mb. I don't really believe in using task killers, as everything I've read said Android handles it on its own and it only waste battery and more memory to kill the tasks.
As most know, when the phone begins to run low on resources, Sense will reboot. So quite often throughout the day, Sense reboots on me. This also happens almost every single time I play a game like Grow or Cut The Rope..
So how much memory do you guys typically have available on a fresh boot? After hours of usage? Any Sense reboots? Any tricks you use?
This should be interesting to hear what others are running at!
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I haven't removed any bloatware yet. Max I've had has been 310 free. The one shown on "Running Services", not the Task killer included.
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Nice one! I use System Panel and the incl Task Killer to see avail memory and they are always the same reading, right now 127 but within Running Services it shows 223mb available...I wonder why the difference.
I feel a little better now, but still wonder why Sense always reboots itself if I have that much memory available...
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Haven't killed anything manually, ES File Explorer is running in the background, something is being synced over WIFI, 304 MB available.
By the way - this is on the updated version (1.35.00) and haven't checked the same scenario pre updating.

Updated version? Are s-off or outside the US?
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About 296 mb free.
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Wonder why the used and free combined come out to about 512. . . Don't we have 768?
Ps. This is in Running Services. Doesn't seem like it's anymore accurate than the window shade.

Nothing removed and running ADW since HTC doesn't know how to optimize there UI and I always have 302 available.
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After using Eugene's 7/9 temp perma-root, I was able to get 397mb free. (Had 410mb before I launched drocap2)
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Typically 110 MB. Today, after running Youtube/Browser and then closing them, I got 150. Dropped down to 140 again quickly however. Never had more... How do you guys get 300?! Disabled Sense?

I get around 290-305 free ram. I disabled alot of apps. System runs smooth. I'm actually running ADW EX and disabled com.HTC.launcher also. Is Checking Ram here in running services accurate?
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Firefall! said:
Typically 110 MB. Today, after running Youtube/Browser and then closing them, I got 150. Dropped down to 140 again quickly however. Never had more... How do you guys get 300?! Disabled Sense?
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Don't use the built-in task manager to check free ram. Use "running services".
Lakeshow423 said:
I get around 290-305 free ram. I disabled alot of apps. System runs smooth. I'm actually running ADW EX and disabled com.HTC.launcher also. Is Checking Ram here in running services accurate?
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Yes, accurate.
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I haven't frozen any bloatware apps either. They aren't really bothering me. Just wish I could use setCPU. I'm hovering around 400mb, but I also don't have a ton of apps.
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Ok, in Running Services I get something around 260 MB.

No bloatware removed and I'm at around 300
No home replacement app either.
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Max i had is 149 out of 558... I am so curious why the total is 558 instead of 768??? but i have never had sense rebooted even after couple of 720p mkv, playing games, web surfing...

About 340Mo after a fresh reboot and after manually killing all the unnecessary tasks (reader, tutorial, messaging, etc)
I've noticed that after about 48h of use, I can't get more than 240Mo after killing the same background tasks.
The worst I've seen was 70Mo after killing all tasks and 2 days of heavy use, it definitly needed a reboot ^^

Lagging while multitasking

Hey I'm running ARHD 3.6.8 and my phone runs smooth when single tasking but when I start doing 2-3 things at a time it starts to run real laggy and running smooth...its running at default 1.5ghz with ondemand scaling....is there anything I can do to make it run better cause I know my phone is more than capable of doing what I was smoothly
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No one?
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ddizzy81 said:
Hey I'm running ARHD 3.6.8 and my phone runs smooth when single tasking but when I start doing 2-3 things at a time it starts to run real laggy and running smooth...its running at default 1.5ghz with ondemand scaling....is there anything I can do to make it run better cause I know my phone is more than capable of doing what I was smoothly
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What things are you doing when you do 2 - 3 things at a time. Can you give some examples.

gol_n_dal said:
What things are you doing when you do 2 - 3 things at a time. Can you give some examples.
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Nothing big.. while listening to music...either text...go on web ... Or open xda app at the same time..simple things....
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ddizzy81 said:
Nothing big.. while listening to music...either text...go on web ... Or open xda app at the same time..simple things....
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Hmm, just had a quick try.
Music in the background, then:
- Open Browser and do a Google search;
- Start and browse XDA;
- Play Jewels;
- Open App drawer and scroll the apps.
I didn't notice any lag in particular. Just my usual network issues.

gol_n_dal said:
Hmm, just had a quick try.
Music in the background, then:
- Open Browser and do a Google search;
- Start and browse XDA;
- Play Jewels;
- Open App drawer and scroll the apps.
I didn't notice any lag in particular. Just my usual network issues.
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Idk....any suggestions?
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Tried flashing a different kernel?
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I'm seeing the same exact things with Sense 3.5 on InsertCoin w/ Bricked kernel.
I'll switch from Facebook to Twitter to Messages and will see that black screen for about 1-2seconds before it actually loads up the app.

mzmo said:
Tried flashing a different kernel?
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Besides faux...what kernel would.u reccommend
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I have never noticed this while on CM7
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absolutely no multitasking-lagg problems with the stock kernel on energy (12/6)

ddizzy81 said:
Besides faux...what kernel would.u reccommend
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Try Bricked kernel 1.5
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256668

abs_rio said:
Try Bricked kernel 1.5
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256668
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I just put that kernel on my phone and so far so good...I will post back with the results
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So I been using this kernel for the day and its been running GREAT..guess...faux's kernel has let me down ...thanks guys
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Funny I'm not getting any lags on my current settings in my signature. Tried playing music in the background along with angry birds, surf xda, open app drawer, text etc. No problems. Feels the same as if I were not multitasking

walkinhotdog said:
Funny I'm not getting any lags on my current settings in my signature. Tried playing music in the background along with angry birds, surf xda, open app drawer, text etc. No problems. Feels the same as if I were not multitasking
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I'm using faux123 0.2.5b4 on CM7 and likewise no issues with his Kernels from what I've tried. I did try Bricked some time back and had a few reboots so back to Faux.

Skymax86 said:
absolutely no multitasking-lagg problems with the stock kernel on energy (12/6)
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whats energy? i'm on stock rom/kernel and it lags like hell

[Q] RAM question

Got a question about RAM....
Why is it that on most sense roms the ram will never get bellow about 130mb? I've noticed that when you have the browser open, and open up a few more apps, most of the time the browser will close before you go back to it.
Why not put the apps you have just opened into the 130mb free ram, instead of the browser closing so that ram can be used?? It seems that the 130mb free is just being wasted, and never actually getting used.
There must be a reason for this... also is there a way to change this, so this free ram actually gets used?

Sense is using the RAM.

sromer said:
Sense is using the RAM.
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Why's it shown as free ram then?

its weird, my RAM did go all the way down to 80+mb
are you sure 130mb is the minimum?

Mr-YC said:
its weird, my RAM did go all the way down to 80+mb
are you sure 130mb is the minimum?
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oh really, what roms that on?
still, surely it should be going all the way down to 0mb?

OOM values (Out Of Memory) which are set in services.jar file make sure that the free RAM count does not go below 130mb so that the kernel does not panic on an out of memory situation, so whenever RAM is getting low, it closes apps that require a large amount of memory
To be honest its not a very efficient setup, it would be better just to put the value in kernel panic on out of memory = 0 (false) therefore solving the problem
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Jonny said:
OOM values (Out Of Memory) which are set in services.jar file make sure that the free RAM count does not go below 130mb so that the kernel does not panic on an out of memory situation, so whenever RAM is getting low, it closes apps that require a large amount of memory
To be honest its not a very efficient setup, it would be better just to put the value in kernel panic on out of memory = 0 (false) therefore solving the problem
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Hi Jonny thanks for the reply.
Ok, so how can I change these values? I have system tuner pro which has a memory section - can it be done through that?

fredcorp6 said:
Hi Jonny thanks for the reply.
Ok, so how can I change these values? I have system tuner pro which has a memory section - can it be done through that?
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Yes, set it to light or custom and choose your own settings for it
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yea in system tuner pro u can change it... got it down to 40mb free but the phone got really slow and laggy - guess thats why the default is 130mb!

May be the Supercharger scripts are the answer
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fredcorp6 said:
Got a question about RAM....
Why is it that on most sense roms the ram will never get bellow about 130mb? I've noticed that when you have the browser open, and open up a few more apps, most of the time the browser will close before you go back to it.
Why not put the apps you have just opened into the 130mb free ram, instead of the browser closing so that ram can be used?? It seems that the 130mb free is just being wasted, and never actually getting used.
There must be a reason for this... also is there a way to change this, so this free ram actually gets used?
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On sense 4.0 coindroid i always have 180-200 mb of ram free... Just close your apps when you dont need them via long pressing home button and swype to kill...
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shahkam said:
On sense 4.0 coindroid i always have 180-200 mb of ram free... Just close your apps when you dont need them via long pressing home button and swype to kill...
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I'm well aware of how to close apps... You seem to have missed the point of this thread lol
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fredcorp6 said:
I'm well aware of how to close apps... You seem to have missed the point of this thread lol
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I did not miss it its only you i guess because im always having alot of free ram...
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shahkam said:
I did not miss it its only you i guess because im always having alot of free ram...
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No the problem is not a lack of free ram! Was just wanting to know why it never all got used up and there was always at least 130mb free... U need to read the thread
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fredcorp6 said:
No the problem is not a lack of free ram! Was just wanting to know why it never all got used up and there was always at least 130mb free... U need to read the thread
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I have read the thread but looks like i missread anyways reflash the rom can't hurt at all...
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More RAM consumed in ICS

Ever since I upgraded to ICS, RAM consumption is high in my atrix2. It used to have free RAM around 300 to 350 MB but now in ICS the fee RAM is always around 150 to 200 MB.
I am having same apps which I used to have on GB. Nothing changed on my phone. Can anybody advice me whats wrong with my phone?
Ex. Games like Temple Run are little bit sluggish in ICS whereas it was running smoothly in GB even though I had some apps in the background. Now in ICS it is sluggish even though there no other apps running in the background.
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asdf20 said:
Ever since I upgraded to ICS, RAM consumption is high in my atrix2. It used to have free RAM around 300 to 350 MB but now in ICS the fee RAM is always around 150 to 200 MB.
I am having same apps which I used to have on GB. Nothing changed on my phone. Can anybody advice me whats wrong with my phone?
Ex. Games like Temple Run are little bit sluggish in ICS whereas it was running smoothly in GB even though I had some apps in the background. Now in ICS it is sluggish even though there no other apps running in the background.
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ics certainly consumes more ram..nothing wrong with your phone..i have not experienced any game lag
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devilhunter47 said:
ics certainly consumes more ram..nothing wrong with your phone..i have not experienced any game lag
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We used to have task manager in GB but that's now vanished in ICS.
Can you suggest me any good task manager?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1882626
[Q] ICS update eating up the RAM
Please read, and search.
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Apex_Strider said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1882626
[Q] ICS update eating up the RAM
Please read, and search.
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Thanks but that does not provide me any solution.... it just explains the reason for more RAM consumption... I am currently facing lags in games...any suggestion?
Also can you suggest me any good task manager?
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asdf20 said:
Thanks but that does not provide me any solution.... it just explains the reason for more RAM consumption... I am currently facing lags in games...any suggestion?
Also can you suggest me any good task manager?
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Android has its own task manager, which is quite sufficient. What people don't seem to understand about RAM, is that it is meant to be used, not the other way around. Android, like Mac OS and Ubuntu, wants to use all the RAM it can, because that's how it was designed to work. There are settings (in Android we call them "minfree" settings) to tell the system how much RAM to leave free and available, but the rest is designed to fill up as fast as possible and stay that way.
Android can manage memory rather well (and the settings are still there to tweak if you just have to touch stuff) and having up to 300 percent more RAM makes a huge difference. There will be a few times where killing off a handful of tasks will speed things up, but overall you'll get the best performance out of your phone or tablet if you stop worrying about it and let Android be Android. If you need to live on the edge (and I know a lot of you guys do) root and hack your phone with some amazing custom ROM that has everything tweaked and allows you to travel forward in time -- I'm right there with ya, 'cause it's fun as hell.
But don't worry about how many apps are running on your phone, or about using widgets that tell you these things, because it just doesn't matter anymore.
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Long press home button, it will appear. Swipe to close apps.

Try with debugging mode enabled along with force GPU rendering from settings...

Task managers/killers are completely useless in android.The only use of task killers is when a rogue app keeps running in background consuming lots of CPU cycles.
After the ics update my phone too was a bit slow but then I factory reset it & then wiped the cache partition. I don't know what did the trick but it works great now.
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Go to development, background applications, at most 4.
This way lag will stop.
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Increase ur RAM and battery power to last long cm9/10

. So here we go on a topic from thz junior pico user, with he topic on how to increase ur RAM and battery life and also, auto_killin of applications themselves in CM 9/10
It's so simple and workin great..
Check the screenshots too...
1.Goto menu..
2.Settings...
3.Developer options...
4.scroll down to the bottom..
5.you'll find an option "Dont keep activities" (give a tick)
6.Then,right beneath to it, will be the option "set from standard limit to ATMOST 1 PROCESS"..
Thats it. U r done...
Now, ull surely hav a cent percent increase in ur RAM as well as battery life..
Hit" Thanx" if i hav helped u atleast for a 0.05 %
CHECK THE SCREENSHOTS ATTACHED TOO...

Screen shots...

Screen shot after makin setup as mentioned in post #1 of this thread...
Checked the status of RAM usage and available memory of RAM in task manager pro..
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Probably won't do much good. Freeing up RAM isn't a worthy goal, as there is no harm in having stuff in RAM (code sitting in RAM isn't using any battery life, and just makes it faster when you go back to an app that is still in RAM from the last time being run). In fact, you may actually harm battery life, as this way it will mean that every time you switch apps, it'll be loading the app from the file system again, instead of from RAM, and that will require more CPU clock cycles (instead of just running code already in RAM, you load code into RAM and then run it). The more work the CPU does, the more power gets used.
This is only really beneficial if the background processes are using CPU cycles (which most shouldn't; they should be effectively "dormant" in RAM), in which case killing them will indeed reduce power use.
It's also worth noting that some apps will keep trying to run their background processes, so presumably this will kill them, but then they will restart, get killed again, etc, again wasting more CPU cycles than necessary.
On the other hand, there is an app on the Play Store called "Watchdog Task Manager" which will monitor background processes CPU usage, and kill apps when they're using more CPU than they should.
(Also, I should mention that I am assuming this feature you are describing is similar to the various "auto task killer" type apps; if it is in some way different to them, it may actually be of some use, and I apologize if that is the case - this post can be ignored if so)

Scripts are available to boost ram without harm........
So I think its if no use...
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After this multi-tasking didn't work
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Don't follow
This might not help some people
And cause probs
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bulletproof136 said:
After this multi-tasking didn't work
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don't tick on almost 1 process and use more than 2 or 3:highfive:

this may cause fc's...
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After this multi-tasking didn't work
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:what: ofc multitasking won't work. Its not supposed to work
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Will work on galaxy y???
$eNt FrØm JeLLy BlA$T 3.4
WaItIn FoR NemESiS...!!

parth_galaxy_y said:
Will work on galaxy y???
$eNt FrØm JeLLy BlA$T 3.4
WaItIn FoR NemESiS...!!
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Only for cyanogen
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