[Q] RAM question - HTC Sensation

Got a question about RAM....
Why is it that on most sense roms the ram will never get bellow about 130mb? I've noticed that when you have the browser open, and open up a few more apps, most of the time the browser will close before you go back to it.
Why not put the apps you have just opened into the 130mb free ram, instead of the browser closing so that ram can be used?? It seems that the 130mb free is just being wasted, and never actually getting used.
There must be a reason for this... also is there a way to change this, so this free ram actually gets used?

Sense is using the RAM.

sromer said:
Sense is using the RAM.
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Why's it shown as free ram then?

its weird, my RAM did go all the way down to 80+mb
are you sure 130mb is the minimum?

Mr-YC said:
its weird, my RAM did go all the way down to 80+mb
are you sure 130mb is the minimum?
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oh really, what roms that on?
still, surely it should be going all the way down to 0mb?

OOM values (Out Of Memory) which are set in services.jar file make sure that the free RAM count does not go below 130mb so that the kernel does not panic on an out of memory situation, so whenever RAM is getting low, it closes apps that require a large amount of memory
To be honest its not a very efficient setup, it would be better just to put the value in kernel panic on out of memory = 0 (false) therefore solving the problem
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Jonny said:
OOM values (Out Of Memory) which are set in services.jar file make sure that the free RAM count does not go below 130mb so that the kernel does not panic on an out of memory situation, so whenever RAM is getting low, it closes apps that require a large amount of memory
To be honest its not a very efficient setup, it would be better just to put the value in kernel panic on out of memory = 0 (false) therefore solving the problem
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Hi Jonny thanks for the reply.
Ok, so how can I change these values? I have system tuner pro which has a memory section - can it be done through that?

fredcorp6 said:
Hi Jonny thanks for the reply.
Ok, so how can I change these values? I have system tuner pro which has a memory section - can it be done through that?
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Yes, set it to light or custom and choose your own settings for it
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yea in system tuner pro u can change it... got it down to 40mb free but the phone got really slow and laggy - guess thats why the default is 130mb!

May be the Supercharger scripts are the answer
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fredcorp6 said:
Got a question about RAM....
Why is it that on most sense roms the ram will never get bellow about 130mb? I've noticed that when you have the browser open, and open up a few more apps, most of the time the browser will close before you go back to it.
Why not put the apps you have just opened into the 130mb free ram, instead of the browser closing so that ram can be used?? It seems that the 130mb free is just being wasted, and never actually getting used.
There must be a reason for this... also is there a way to change this, so this free ram actually gets used?
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On sense 4.0 coindroid i always have 180-200 mb of ram free... Just close your apps when you dont need them via long pressing home button and swype to kill...
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shahkam said:
On sense 4.0 coindroid i always have 180-200 mb of ram free... Just close your apps when you dont need them via long pressing home button and swype to kill...
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I'm well aware of how to close apps... You seem to have missed the point of this thread lol
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fredcorp6 said:
I'm well aware of how to close apps... You seem to have missed the point of this thread lol
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I did not miss it its only you i guess because im always having alot of free ram...
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shahkam said:
I did not miss it its only you i guess because im always having alot of free ram...
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No the problem is not a lack of free ram! Was just wanting to know why it never all got used up and there was always at least 130mb free... U need to read the thread
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fredcorp6 said:
No the problem is not a lack of free ram! Was just wanting to know why it never all got used up and there was always at least 130mb free... U need to read the thread
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I have read the thread but looks like i missread anyways reflash the rom can't hurt at all...
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Related

desire s ram and cpu usage.

So i just rooted the phone and installed the virtuous unity rom. When i installed the rom i assumed it would take care of the ram and cpu problems which is why i didn't really care much. But since it didn't solve the problem, i'm starting to wonder where the hell all the cpu and ram power is going. On idle i only have about 150mb of ram available and my cpu is 50% in use. Is this normal? Can anything be done about it?
It's also very noticeable.
Strange.
Are you controlling the running services and application-tasks manually ?
I usually have around 400MB free ram and cpu usage is just on the normal range, and an ordinary task manager does the job.
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It's also very noticeable.
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is your phone running slowly? 150Mb is loads or RAM, have you ever run out?
custom roms tend to make more use of RAM for caches and to improve performance etc....especially if you try sense 3.0 based rom which by nature will be larger.
How did you manage to get 400mb!?!?!?!?! What rom are you running?
It does lag quite a bit at times which seems to go away after the use of a task killer but i don't use task killers anymore as i failed to see the point in them.
also why does the phone claim to have 768mb when i can only see about 611mb. Is there some memory reserved for the os or something?
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How did you manage to get 400mb!?!?!?!?! What rom are you running?
It does lag quite a bit at times which seems to go away after the use of a task killer but i don't use task killers anymore as i failed to see the point in them.
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You can't get 400Mb that must be a typo! unless you've created a Senseless ROM.
Even when I kill ever process that runs using the the fast reboot market app I still get less than 350Mb!
I have over 400MB free, stock ROM, Settings take nearly 18MB, so my guess is about 418MB free. Based on stock app manager. I have lots of apps, 3G Watchdog running and five full home screens. I had very same situation on previous DS. How much do you have?
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i can't believe my eyes here.....
I just tested it again and there was 440MB (458MB w/o Settings) and about 150MB used. But I'm OT, sorry.
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With LBC MOD i get
Total memory: 612MB
Used: 424MB
Free: 188MB
Running Virtuous Unity too, atm have 100mb free RAM. Can't say I think th phone is running slow though....
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chris5s said:
Running Virtuous Unity too, atm have 100mb free RAM. Can't say I think th phone is running slow though....
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Sure not! Tried both roms and they work really FAST!
so the ram available is okay, but the 50% CPU is a problem i guess(i dont have a program to check that)
If you fell that your phone is slow even after wipe and flashing a new rom it might be a hardware issue.
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I just tested it again and there was 440MB (458MB w/o Settings) and about 150MB used. But I'm OT, sorry.
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Are you sure that you're not getting the and free and in use figures muddled?
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Check image in attachment.
That's the memory when i kill all unnecessary crap running.
With the needed apps running it varies let's say 350-380MB.
Using stock rom ( europe )
:O WOW, maybe is time for me to back to stock!, joking but wow...well, looking in that screen ( on settings) i get
185 MB used and 405 MB free
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Are you sure that you're not getting the and free and in use figures muddled?
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100% sure
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leedroid 2.3.4 vs insertcoin 2.3.4

Hello which rom do you prefer as far as speed goes? I've used both and I'm having trouble deciding on one. Instercoin locks my gps so quickly and seems like everything is working perfectly while leedroid tends to be a little quicker but I had trouble with the no options to mount disk drive when usb was plugged in. Anyway what do you guys think to push my opinion one way or the other? Thanks.
ive tested EVERY rom/kernel available so far, and IMO, Insertcoin v2.1 A2.3.4 with unity v6 kernel is the best out there, on average i have 170mb free ram, smooth as hell, and still running 1.2ghz
using it with thyparency mod for 6x5 app menu, this fone is just how i want it...for the time being
How is your battery life?
Hi, when it comes to ROMs, I'd always test for myself
Just try them both and see which one you prefer, what works for me won't necessarily work for you
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ive tested EVERY rom/kernel available so far, and IMO, Insertcoin v2.1 A2.3.4 with unity v6 kernel is the best out there, on average i have 170mb free ram, smooth as hell, and still running 1.2ghz
using it with thyparency mod for 6x5 app menu, this fone is just how i want it...for the time being
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wow thats all the ram you have ive got 225mb free of ram with coredroid 2.0 and this is smooth as a babies ass lol............. oh and my battery last all day and some
I was having the same dilemma, and you all are making the choice even harder...lol
phonegod said:
wow thats all the ram you have ive got 225mb free of ram with coredroid 2.0 and this is smooth as a babies ass lol............. oh and my battery last all day and some
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That's the same I have with InsertCoin 2.2.1 and I get about 225-240 mb and i use Launcherpro and running it I have between 305-320 mb free.
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Darkmx2000 said:
That's the same I have with InsertCoin 2.2.1 and I get about 225-240 mb and i use Launcherpro and running it I have between 305-320 mb free.
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how did you get that much ram with insertcoin ? i tried every-possible way to go beyond 224mb never succeeded (even with launcherpro, adw and even golauncher) any tips ?
InsertCoins has been the smoothest out there for me. Just seems to get most things right and is very responsive IMHO
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how did you get that much ram with insertcoin ? i tried every-possible way to go beyond 224mb never succeeded (even with launcherpro, adw and even golauncher) any tips ?
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Did u wipe cache and data be4 u flash? I use insertcoin with launcherpro usually get 310+ mb free without launcher pro 275~290mb with sence
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i did everything the max i get is 220 deleted everything cache/delv...etc formated file sys to ext4 but nothing extra :S
I'm using InsertCoin and i get around 314mb
Task Manager or Running Apps
yacbos said:
i did everything the max i get is 220 deleted everything cache/delv...etc formated file sys to ext4 but nothing extra :S
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corona10 said:
I'm using InsertCoin and i get around 314mb
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You should specify if the free RAM is reported from HTC's Task Manager or from Settings>Applications>Running services.
Running Services always shows more "free RAM" compared to HTC's Task Manager.
InsertCoin FTW....!
@omar ur right the task manager is showing 200 while running services showing 311
So which is accurate ?
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On any Sense rom, full wipe + install, the only way I can get above even 150mb ram is to kill everything in the task manager.
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@omar ur right the task manager is showing 200 while running services showing 311
So which is accurate ?
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Since the running programs one is from Android & is the same as non HTC phones, i'd go would that.

[Q] Total Memory = 558MB???

Hello Guys
Why is Total Memory showing as 558MBs in task manager when it should be 768?
How come some HTC Sensations are 4G some 3G? + how do you check if its 4G or 3G?
Thanks
PS Love my phone
Some are locked by OS.
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How do i unlock so that it use all the RAM?
You will not unlock the rest of the RAM memory beacause it's reserved for the Adreno chip.
i take it the Adreno chip is the graphics CHIP?
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i take it the Adreno chip is the graphics CHIP?
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Yes, it's a graphic chip
should have waited for the htc evo which has 1gB ram!! Dam
you should've bought the other device which has 1G ram..
Doesn't the iphone 4 have 512mb of ram? I don't hear anyone complaining there..
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why do people complain about ram do they even know how android handles ram.as long as you have 100-170mb you are alright no program uses over 30mb along so,the most i seen is 23mb and im looking at it now and it is settings at 1 process and 0 sevices i have 278mb free ram used 242mb
Hgaara said:
Doesn't the iphone 4 have 512mb of ram? I don't hear anyone complaining there..
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iPhone users don't even know what RAM is..
@OP the RAM isn't gonna make much difference due to the way Android manages its memory. Besides even on EVO 3D you'll be unhappy with 700 some odd available RAM.
I've been having a lot of problems with not having enough ram, or at least I think that's the problem. My sensation keeps restarting sense, and usually when i check I only have about 70 - 80 available ram. i'm not sure what's using it, but it gets pretty annoying.
digitizedremix said:
I've been having a lot of problems with not having enough ram, or at least I think that's the problem. My sensation keeps restarting sense, and usually when i check I only have about 70 - 80 available ram. i'm not sure what's using it, but it gets pretty annoying.
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Minfree settings might be too aggressive. I haven't had sense restart once yet.
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Minfree settings might be too aggressive. I haven't had sense restart once yet.
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Minfree settings? Not too sure what you mean but for me, my phone is stock haven't modded it or anything. Just keeps restarting.

{q} (is there)a way to get at least 450 mb± RAM

the title says enough...is there a way to achieve that much free space? sometimes i want to play a game what needs more RAM...but i only have 200 mb± with the latest coredroid...it is really dissapointing...:\
turkish-soldier said:
the title says enough...is there a way to achieve that much free space? sometimes i want to play a game what needs more RAM...but i only have 200 mb± with the latest coredroid...it is really dissapointing...:\
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Don't worry the games will be fine, Android will free up resources for processes that require it. And the status bar task manager(HTC) and settings show different amounts of RAM. In settings the value is significantly higher, seems a lot of apps are cached in RAM. Anyway you can still play those games and not worry.
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Don't worry the games will be fine, Android will free up resources for processes that require it. And the status bar task manager(HTC) and settings show different amounts of RAM. In settings the value is significantly higher, seems a lot of apps are cached in RAM. Anyway you can still play those games and not worry.
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Ok,but what you answered wasn't the answer what i want,i mean when i check it with es task manager i see only 200mb of free space....on my rooted dhd i have 360(!!)mb of free space...i just do not know why there is such a big difference while sensation is new...
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turkish-soldier said:
Ok,but what you answered wasn't the answer what i want,i mean when i check it with es task manager i see only 200mb of free space....on my rooted dhd i have 360(!!)mb of free space...i just do not know why there is such a big difference while sensation is new...
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Are you referring to internal memory or actual ram? If ram the sensation has qhd making sense use more ram. You can use supercharger v6 to change minfree values for more ram. And if you really mean internal mem, you can uninstall some apps or clear caches. Dhd and sensation have same amount of storage allocated to data partition.
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On a completely clean install with noa pps installed you'll only get 250MB free RAM - you'll never see 450MB free with a Sense-based ROM. End of
It's not necessary. If the game needs more memory, Android will free up the memory for it when the game is running. Keeping 450MB memory free all the time is highly inefficient use of the available memory. That basically means that 450MB memory is kept from being used. People really should stop obsess with large "free memory" number on Android.
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Are you referring to internal memory or actual ram? If ram the sensation has qhd making sense use more ram. You can use supercharger v6 to change minfree values for more ram. And if you really mean internal mem, you can uninstall some apps or clear caches. Dhd and sensation have same amount of storage allocated to data partition.
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I was referring to Ram,i will try supercharger v6(don't know what it is will give it a try ) no i am talking about the ram...not the internal storage for aps
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It's not necessary. If the game needs more memory, Android will free up the memory for it when the game is running. Keeping 450MB memory free all the time is highly inefficient use of the available memory. That basically means that 450MB memory is kept from being used. People really should stop obsess with large "free memory" number on Android.
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Ok thank you very much,this is what i wanted to know,
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well you might not get exactly 450mb free.
but i think in the developers forum, there is a custom rom you can port to your rooted phone that doesnt include the HTC sense and some apps to free up some space for you.
You deff won't get 450mb free even with an asop rom.
Like everyone else said, android does a pretty good job at memory management and clear memory when apps need more.
A lot of RAM is reserved for HW drivers first, then Android reserves some, an some processes are cached and then there's your free RAM which is less 300MB>Senny, but I use Supercharger MOD and get avg of 200MB on homescreen(w/ a lot widgets).

Increase ur RAM and battery power to last long cm9/10

. So here we go on a topic from thz junior pico user, with he topic on how to increase ur RAM and battery life and also, auto_killin of applications themselves in CM 9/10
It's so simple and workin great..
Check the screenshots too...
1.Goto menu..
2.Settings...
3.Developer options...
4.scroll down to the bottom..
5.you'll find an option "Dont keep activities" (give a tick)
6.Then,right beneath to it, will be the option "set from standard limit to ATMOST 1 PROCESS"..
Thats it. U r done...
Now, ull surely hav a cent percent increase in ur RAM as well as battery life..
Hit" Thanx" if i hav helped u atleast for a 0.05 %
CHECK THE SCREENSHOTS ATTACHED TOO...
Screen shots...
Screen shot after makin setup as mentioned in post #1 of this thread...
Checked the status of RAM usage and available memory of RAM in task manager pro..
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Probably won't do much good. Freeing up RAM isn't a worthy goal, as there is no harm in having stuff in RAM (code sitting in RAM isn't using any battery life, and just makes it faster when you go back to an app that is still in RAM from the last time being run). In fact, you may actually harm battery life, as this way it will mean that every time you switch apps, it'll be loading the app from the file system again, instead of from RAM, and that will require more CPU clock cycles (instead of just running code already in RAM, you load code into RAM and then run it). The more work the CPU does, the more power gets used.
This is only really beneficial if the background processes are using CPU cycles (which most shouldn't; they should be effectively "dormant" in RAM), in which case killing them will indeed reduce power use.
It's also worth noting that some apps will keep trying to run their background processes, so presumably this will kill them, but then they will restart, get killed again, etc, again wasting more CPU cycles than necessary.
On the other hand, there is an app on the Play Store called "Watchdog Task Manager" which will monitor background processes CPU usage, and kill apps when they're using more CPU than they should.
(Also, I should mention that I am assuming this feature you are describing is similar to the various "auto task killer" type apps; if it is in some way different to them, it may actually be of some use, and I apologize if that is the case - this post can be ignored if so)
Scripts are available to boost ram without harm........
So I think its if no use...
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After this multi-tasking didn't work
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Don't follow
This might not help some people
And cause probs
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After this multi-tasking didn't work
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don't tick on almost 1 process and use more than 2 or 3:highfive:
this may cause fc's...
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After this multi-tasking didn't work
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:what: ofc multitasking won't work. Its not supposed to work
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Will work on galaxy y???
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Will work on galaxy y???
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WaItIn FoR NemESiS...!!
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Only for cyanogen
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