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desire s ram and cpu usage.

So i just rooted the phone and installed the virtuous unity rom. When i installed the rom i assumed it would take care of the ram and cpu problems which is why i didn't really care much. But since it didn't solve the problem, i'm starting to wonder where the hell all the cpu and ram power is going. On idle i only have about 150mb of ram available and my cpu is 50% in use. Is this normal? Can anything be done about it?
It's also very noticeable.

Strange.
Are you controlling the running services and application-tasks manually ?
I usually have around 400MB free ram and cpu usage is just on the normal range, and an ordinary task manager does the job.

dan-fish said:
It's also very noticeable.
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is your phone running slowly? 150Mb is loads or RAM, have you ever run out?
custom roms tend to make more use of RAM for caches and to improve performance etc....especially if you try sense 3.0 based rom which by nature will be larger.

How did you manage to get 400mb!?!?!?!?! What rom are you running?
It does lag quite a bit at times which seems to go away after the use of a task killer but i don't use task killers anymore as i failed to see the point in them.
also why does the phone claim to have 768mb when i can only see about 611mb. Is there some memory reserved for the os or something?

dan-fish said:
How did you manage to get 400mb!?!?!?!?! What rom are you running?
It does lag quite a bit at times which seems to go away after the use of a task killer but i don't use task killers anymore as i failed to see the point in them.
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You can't get 400Mb that must be a typo! unless you've created a Senseless ROM.
Even when I kill ever process that runs using the the fast reboot market app I still get less than 350Mb!

I have over 400MB free, stock ROM, Settings take nearly 18MB, so my guess is about 418MB free. Based on stock app manager. I have lots of apps, 3G Watchdog running and five full home screens. I had very same situation on previous DS. How much do you have?
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i can't believe my eyes here.....

I just tested it again and there was 440MB (458MB w/o Settings) and about 150MB used. But I'm OT, sorry.
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With LBC MOD i get
Total memory: 612MB
Used: 424MB
Free: 188MB

Running Virtuous Unity too, atm have 100mb free RAM. Can't say I think th phone is running slow though....
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chris5s said:
Running Virtuous Unity too, atm have 100mb free RAM. Can't say I think th phone is running slow though....
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Sure not! Tried both roms and they work really FAST!
so the ram available is okay, but the 50% CPU is a problem i guess(i dont have a program to check that)
If you fell that your phone is slow even after wipe and flashing a new rom it might be a hardware issue.

Numline1 said:
I just tested it again and there was 440MB (458MB w/o Settings) and about 150MB used. But I'm OT, sorry.
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Are you sure that you're not getting the and free and in use figures muddled?
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Check image in attachment.
That's the memory when i kill all unnecessary crap running.
With the needed apps running it varies let's say 350-380MB.
Using stock rom ( europe )

:O WOW, maybe is time for me to back to stock!, joking but wow...well, looking in that screen ( on settings) i get
185 MB used and 405 MB free

ben_pyett said:
Are you sure that you're not getting the and free and in use figures muddled?
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100% sure
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[Q] Total Memory = 558MB???

Hello Guys
Why is Total Memory showing as 558MBs in task manager when it should be 768?
How come some HTC Sensations are 4G some 3G? + how do you check if its 4G or 3G?
Thanks
PS Love my phone

Some are locked by OS.
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How do i unlock so that it use all the RAM?

You will not unlock the rest of the RAM memory beacause it's reserved for the Adreno chip.

i take it the Adreno chip is the graphics CHIP?

Hero_uk1 said:
i take it the Adreno chip is the graphics CHIP?
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Yes, it's a graphic chip

should have waited for the htc evo which has 1gB ram!! Dam

you should've bought the other device which has 1G ram..

Doesn't the iphone 4 have 512mb of ram? I don't hear anyone complaining there..
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why do people complain about ram do they even know how android handles ram.as long as you have 100-170mb you are alright no program uses over 30mb along so,the most i seen is 23mb and im looking at it now and it is settings at 1 process and 0 sevices i have 278mb free ram used 242mb

Hgaara said:
Doesn't the iphone 4 have 512mb of ram? I don't hear anyone complaining there..
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iPhone users don't even know what RAM is..
@OP the RAM isn't gonna make much difference due to the way Android manages its memory. Besides even on EVO 3D you'll be unhappy with 700 some odd available RAM.

I've been having a lot of problems with not having enough ram, or at least I think that's the problem. My sensation keeps restarting sense, and usually when i check I only have about 70 - 80 available ram. i'm not sure what's using it, but it gets pretty annoying.

digitizedremix said:
I've been having a lot of problems with not having enough ram, or at least I think that's the problem. My sensation keeps restarting sense, and usually when i check I only have about 70 - 80 available ram. i'm not sure what's using it, but it gets pretty annoying.
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Minfree settings might be too aggressive. I haven't had sense restart once yet.

Sdobron said:
Minfree settings might be too aggressive. I haven't had sense restart once yet.
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Minfree settings? Not too sure what you mean but for me, my phone is stock haven't modded it or anything. Just keeps restarting.

Why does it say I only have 568 mb of RaM?

Everytime I see a screen shot of someone else's sensation It says they have 613 ram total my tmous Sensation only has 568.. is this a factory defect or is that just how tmobile sensations are made? I feel like I'm getting screwed out of a decent amount of ram.
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for me it says 563 MB I think the missing is used up by the OS and htc sense

ikrispyyy said:
Everytime I see a screen shot of someone else's sensation It says they have 613 ram total my tmous Sensation only has 568.. is this a factory defect or is that just how tmobile sensations are made? I feel like I'm getting screwed out of a decent amount of ram.
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the extra ram is opened up in mikes first arhd rom 4.1.x with sense 3.5. (maybe with other sense 3.5 versions as well not sure)

flamingrage said:
for me it says 563 MB I think the missing is used up by the OS and htc sense
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Mine also says 563
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Well, your gpu needs some ram, and it doesn't like it when Tue amount of ram it has changes, so that value is constant.
Also, some low level system stuff needs some constant memory as well. Also, this has been asked, AND answered many times already...
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the opened up ram is on 3.5 based roms i believe... i know i first seen it on mikes arhd 4.1.x getting 613mb while previously only 563mb on sense 3.0.

Bro stock HTC kernel has 613mb...all the custom ones limit it to 563....that screenshots you've seen must be taken from a Rom which has stock kernel...I don't know why custom kernels have limited the actual amount of ram...I have check this when I was using insertcoin with bricked kernel...it shown 563mb ram...when I returned to stock kernel...ram get back to 613mb

Thank you for the answers everyone. I apologize for asking a scrub question.
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RAM Q

I want to buy anew optimus but I want to know one thing.
How many MBs is the user available RAM?
And how many free MBs in RAM during average use and how many after task killing?
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With GB, 76MB Free without killing tasks and 200 MB free with killing tasks with ES Task Manager Widget. But I have not encountered any ram issues with GB, phone is always smooth and fast.

Thanks..and what's all available for use?
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76mB without killing tasks, 200mB with killing tasks.

Optimus has 512 MB ram, Android see about 450MB.
For user, with good ROM and tweaks, lasts about 150-200MB,usually not less then 100MB.
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[Q] RAM question

Got a question about RAM....
Why is it that on most sense roms the ram will never get bellow about 130mb? I've noticed that when you have the browser open, and open up a few more apps, most of the time the browser will close before you go back to it.
Why not put the apps you have just opened into the 130mb free ram, instead of the browser closing so that ram can be used?? It seems that the 130mb free is just being wasted, and never actually getting used.
There must be a reason for this... also is there a way to change this, so this free ram actually gets used?

Sense is using the RAM.

sromer said:
Sense is using the RAM.
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Why's it shown as free ram then?

its weird, my RAM did go all the way down to 80+mb
are you sure 130mb is the minimum?

Mr-YC said:
its weird, my RAM did go all the way down to 80+mb
are you sure 130mb is the minimum?
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oh really, what roms that on?
still, surely it should be going all the way down to 0mb?

OOM values (Out Of Memory) which are set in services.jar file make sure that the free RAM count does not go below 130mb so that the kernel does not panic on an out of memory situation, so whenever RAM is getting low, it closes apps that require a large amount of memory
To be honest its not a very efficient setup, it would be better just to put the value in kernel panic on out of memory = 0 (false) therefore solving the problem
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Jonny said:
OOM values (Out Of Memory) which are set in services.jar file make sure that the free RAM count does not go below 130mb so that the kernel does not panic on an out of memory situation, so whenever RAM is getting low, it closes apps that require a large amount of memory
To be honest its not a very efficient setup, it would be better just to put the value in kernel panic on out of memory = 0 (false) therefore solving the problem
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Hi Jonny thanks for the reply.
Ok, so how can I change these values? I have system tuner pro which has a memory section - can it be done through that?

fredcorp6 said:
Hi Jonny thanks for the reply.
Ok, so how can I change these values? I have system tuner pro which has a memory section - can it be done through that?
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Yes, set it to light or custom and choose your own settings for it
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yea in system tuner pro u can change it... got it down to 40mb free but the phone got really slow and laggy - guess thats why the default is 130mb!

May be the Supercharger scripts are the answer
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fredcorp6 said:
Got a question about RAM....
Why is it that on most sense roms the ram will never get bellow about 130mb? I've noticed that when you have the browser open, and open up a few more apps, most of the time the browser will close before you go back to it.
Why not put the apps you have just opened into the 130mb free ram, instead of the browser closing so that ram can be used?? It seems that the 130mb free is just being wasted, and never actually getting used.
There must be a reason for this... also is there a way to change this, so this free ram actually gets used?
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On sense 4.0 coindroid i always have 180-200 mb of ram free... Just close your apps when you dont need them via long pressing home button and swype to kill...
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shahkam said:
On sense 4.0 coindroid i always have 180-200 mb of ram free... Just close your apps when you dont need them via long pressing home button and swype to kill...
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I'm well aware of how to close apps... You seem to have missed the point of this thread lol
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fredcorp6 said:
I'm well aware of how to close apps... You seem to have missed the point of this thread lol
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I did not miss it its only you i guess because im always having alot of free ram...
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shahkam said:
I did not miss it its only you i guess because im always having alot of free ram...
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No the problem is not a lack of free ram! Was just wanting to know why it never all got used up and there was always at least 130mb free... U need to read the thread
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fredcorp6 said:
No the problem is not a lack of free ram! Was just wanting to know why it never all got used up and there was always at least 130mb free... U need to read the thread
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I have read the thread but looks like i missread anyways reflash the rom can't hurt at all...
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