[Q] Bluetooth kills wifi - AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL

I was always suspect of this, but now I have confirmation. Last night I was streaming some live video to my phone in high quality (twitch app, watching starcraft 2). I also have a little bluetooth speaker that I was using. So it turns out, that the video would lag when the bluetooth speaker was connected, but not when the sound was just coming out of the phone speakers (bluetooth antennae still kept on). I tried this back and fourth 4 times, to make sure that it wasn't just a coincidence, and it wasn't.
So now this makes me think, when I'm using a Mogo Pro controller through bluetooth, does this make the multiplayer gaming lag? I have to wonder, because I play Modern Combat 4 multiplayer, and get lag spikes often. I always assumed it was just the ****ty servers, since they drop matches all the time.
NOTE: I have done a search, and only found a couple threads of people complaining about the same thing, but not getting any constructive help. I want to know if this is a defect, a design flaw of the One X, or a design flaw of bluetooth/wifi.

Makes sense. Bluetooth uses 2.4ghz frequency hopping spread spectrum, WiFi uses 2.4ghz wideband transmission... Every so often the Bluetooth signal will overlap with the wirless channel causing interference. If you wanted you could buy a 5ghz wireless router to eliminate the problem.
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ECEXCURSION said:
Makes sense. Bluetooth uses 2.4ghz frequency hopping spread spectrum, WiFi uses 2.4ghz wideband transmission... Every so often the Bluetooth signal will overlap with the wirless channel causing interference. If you wanted you could buy a 5ghz wireless router to eliminate the problem.
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Oh, interesting. That makes sense. I actually have a dual band N router, is there a way for me to force my HOX to connect with 5ghz only?
EDIT: I am mistaken. I don't have a dual band router. I was looking forward to at least pinning down the problem.

theOPEC said:
Oh, interesting. That makes sense. I actually have a dual band N router, is there a way for me to force my HOX to connect with 5ghz only?
EDIT: I am mistaken. I don't have a dual band router. I was looking forward to at least pinning down the problem.
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In case you do get a new router, yes you can force 5gHz only. It's under the Wi-Fi advanced menu.
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WiFi

The WiFi on the TF700 isn't horrible but it isn't excellent either. Has anyone found any tweaks or fixes to stabalize WiFi?
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Eh? It's excellent.. I get the full amount of bars in a spot where every other device only gets 2 at most. It's never dropped for me. I download entire films over it, at the same speed as my pc and laptop...
Set your IP to static as opposed to DHCP. (long press the network --> modify --> advanced settings) This stabilizes the connection.
Set your router to channels that don't match the ones everyone else in the street uses. Use a tool like inSSIDer (http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider/) to detect all the channels.
Wifi bugs are almost always router problems.
Been my experience that wireless routers are one of the most unreliable pieces of hardware in the realm of networking.
Thats OK said:
Wifi bugs are almost always router problems.
Been my experience that wireless routers are one of the most unreliable pieces of hardware in the realm of networking.
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In this case, every other wireless device in my house has no problem getting 4 to 5 bars. I've never really had a problem with Netgear routers.
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Joeful said:
In this case, every other wireless device in my house has no problem getting 4 to 5 bars. I've never really had a problem with Netgear routers.
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All wifi routers have short lives because of the high freq oscillators inside (more info than needed I know.)
Had the exact same a few times.
All including the Infinity were fine when accepting a Windows 7 update to my notebook then it's wifi connection freaked.
Reset the router and in one case had to assign a different pass-phrase and all returned to abynormal.

Bluetooth audio skipping

I am having a problem with Bluetooth audio skipping. Anyone else having this problem? Anyone have a solution?
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Skipping? No, but I have a whole bunch of other problems.
Not playing out through bluetooth after skipping a track.
Randomly shutting bluetooth off
Odds are whenever we get 4.2/4.3 it'll be a lot better since they've made big changes to the bluetooth stack these past couple iterations.
iguanad said:
I am having a problem with Bluetooth audio skipping. Anyone else having this problem? Anyone have a solution?
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I have the same issue where my BT audio skips :\ Haven't found a fix for it yet
i also have this issue with the droid mini. running 4.4. the skipping seems to stop when the screen is on though.
I've seen the issue where Bluetooth makes Wi-Fi speed plummet. So Pandora would skip over Bluetooth but not over a wired headset. Fixed it by switching to a 5Ghz wireless network. Apparently this is common with Bluetooth and 2.4 Ghz networks
mistermojorizin said:
I've seen the issue where Bluetooth makes Wi-Fi speed plummet. So Pandora would skip over Bluetooth but not over a wired headset. Fixed it by switching to a 5Ghz wireless network. Apparently this is common with Bluetooth and 2.4 Ghz networks
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Makes sense, because Bluetooth *is* a 2.4 GHz network.
I notice audio skipping with both BT and wired connections when my phone disconnect and reconnects to WiFi (like, when I am driving home and come up the driveway, audio will stutter.) This happens when I come home from a run, too, while listening to audio on regular earbuds. I hadn't thought to try to restrict 5 GHz, though. Since it happens wired, too, it shouldn't make a difference, but I'll see what happens...
I have the same issue with Bluetooth cutting in and out bad with my Bluetooth LG headset if the Wi-Fi is on. In my case at home I use the 5ghz side of my router for the phones and every thing else uses the 2.4 range. But driving down the street the audio in a phone conversation with go bad either I can't hear them our they can't hear me clear, as if your going through a tunnel. Been going on for awhile since the 12.15.15 update. First thought it was my headset so got a newer model and it did it so got that one replaced just be sure same result.
For now I just turn off the WiFi when not at home wish there was a way to make it so I didn't have to. Maybe the new radio 110 that is rumored to come with 4.4.2 will fix the issue.
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doogald said:
Makes sense, because Bluetooth *is* a 2.4 GHz network.
I notice audio skipping with both BT and wired connections when my phone disconnect and reconnects to WiFi (like, when I am driving home and come up the driveway, audio will stutter.) This happens when I come home from a run, too, while listening to audio on regular earbuds. I hadn't thought to try to restrict 5 GHz, though. Since it happens wired, too, it shouldn't make a difference, but I'll see what happens...
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I didn't mention it, but in the process of troubleshooting my issue, i did learn that Bluetooth is a 2.4ghz connection.
Anyway, i didn't need to restrict to 5ghz (neither on the phone nor router side), all I did was just connect to the 5ghz network instead of the 2.4ghz one.
mistermojorizin said:
Anyway, i didn't need to restrict to 5ghz (neither on the phone nor router side), all I did was just connect to the 5ghz network instead of the 2.4ghz one.
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Yeah, my router has a single SSID for both networks so I'll need to try restricting it on the phone.

Steaming HD over wireless network lag

Hi guys,
I have been trying to watch HD video files from my media server over my wireless network on my Note 10.1. However, no matter what I use it just lags and stutters. The files play when put on an SD card which means it is related to the buffer speed.
Surely it isn't too much to ask for the note 10.1 to be able to stream a film wirelessly stutter free or am I expecting too much?
Thanks
How congested is your network, and what frequency band? Also, which player are you using?
I switched to 5GHz "N" WiFi (as the 2.4GHz band at home and work is just a huge mess) and am using the "Dice" (and "MX") players and I can stream MPEG/H.264 videos with no interruptions.
One thing to consider is if the initial connection is judged to be fast by the player, it might decide to not need to buffer that much, which leads to slowdowns once the WiFi thruput decreases.
It is on the 5Ghz band on my new BT Homehub router. Would I be better buying a separate wireless router and connect it up?
The only other things which use wireless are 2 mobile phones. The computers are wired.
Currently I have shows working okay for 11 minutes and then they slow and stutter. Never to work again! Very frustrating unfortunately.
There IS the possibility your media server might be an issue- I have a couple of PogoPlugs that I use for this purpose, and they work well both over 2.4GHz and 5GHz.
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There IS the possibility your media server might be an issue- I have a couple of PogoPlugs that I use for this purpose, and they work well both over 2.4GHz and 5GHz.
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I have the HP MediaSmart Server. It is connected via a wired gigabyte connection.
Unsure of how to solve this issue. Streaming to a laptop over wifi is no problem.
neonplanet40 said:
It is connected via a wired [Gigabit] connection. ... Streaming to a laptop over wifi is no problem.
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Are you running a stock kernel on your GNote? What's the effective bitrate of your movies? Are there any QoS settings in your router?
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Are you running a stock kernel on your GNote? What's the effective bitrate of your movies? Are there any QoS settings in your router?
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Yes mate my note is running stock. As for QoS, I am unsure. Quite sure the router is basic to be honest but given that I can stream to laptops it leads me to believe that my tablet is the problem.
neonplanet40 said:
... but given that I can stream to laptops it leads me to believe that my tablet is the problem.
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Kinda/sorta- the reason I'd asked about being stock or not is that I suspect the WiFi in stock devices isn't optimized for streaming but more for surfing (there's a slight difference in the way packets are handled between those two modes) and I've got a kernel that uses a different TCP "backoff" setup and I'd wanted you to try that.
neonplanet40 said:
Hi guys,
I have been trying to watch HD video files from my media server over my wireless network on my Note 10.1. However, no matter what I use it just lags and stutters. The files play when put on an SD card which means it is related to the buffer speed.
Surely it isn't too much to ask for the note 10.1 to be able to stream a film wirelessly stutter free or am I expecting too much?
Thanks
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What is the bit rate of the video file that you are trying to stream?
Have you check your wifi signal with an app like Wifi Analyzer to see if you have other devices crowding the channel that you are trying to use. You may be amazed at what you find.
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kkretch said:
Have you checked your wifi signal with an app like Wifi Analyzer to see if you have other devices crowding the channel that you are trying to use?
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He's on 5GHz, though- while not impossible, it's unlikely it's a channel-crowding issue.
kcrudup said:
He's on 5GHz, though- while not impossible, it's unlikely it's a channel-crowding issue.
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You have to start some place and this would be my first step in trouble shooting any WiFi issue.
Also........ The higher the frequency of a wireless signal, the shorter its range. Thus, 2.4 GHz networks cover a substantially larger range than 5 GHz wireless networks. In particular, the higher frequency wireless signals of 5 GHz networks do not penetrate solid objects nearly as well as do 2.4 GHz signals so 5 GHz hardware offers a few advantages over 2.4 GHz hardware, but in practice, 2.4 GHz is usually the better choice for home and other wireless local networks
Higher frequency networks are not necessarily superior to lower frequency ones, its a fact.
kkretch said:
Higher frequency networks are not necessarily superior to lower frequency ones, its a fact.
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Well the lower-penetration disadvantage of 5GHz is offset greatly by the higher possible bandwidth and lower interference rates- but if his 5GHz network is 802.11n, perhaps he's got a mesh setup going on that can help alleviate some of that (the OP's gotta love how we're talking about him like he's not right here, too ).
But I can easily help OP determine if the issue is band-related thruput- can he download one of the movie files? Do that while timing the download, and see what kind of effective bitrate he's getting (I'd also suggest running the Ookla "SpeedTest" app).

Unusable wifi

I'm loving my z3 but for the life of me I cannot get a tidy wifi connection.it doesn't drop the actually connection but just freezes or slows down to an unusable amount.it's not my wifi as I have tested my note 3 on the same connection and it's the same on other networks.does anyone else have this problem or a solution
simon.n.jonez said:
I'm loving my z3 but for the life of me I cannot get a tidy wifi connection.it doesn't drop the actually connection but just freezes or slows down to an unusable amount.it's not my wifi as I have tested my note 3 on the same connection and it's the same on other networks.does anyone else have this problem or a solution
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I am struggling with Wifi speeds on mine. I am having to switch to 4g regularly.
I am not too worried yet as I have 8gb data, but eventually i'll be worried as it runs out lol/
The speed tests show a good speed and ping, but it disconnects or slows down/freezes a lot.
I'm waiting on updates.
Thanks for the reply.I get data fine over 4G too.the chappy wifi is annoying as I have wifi everywhere I go...but no 4G signal at home
simon.n.jonez said:
... I cannot get a tidy wifi connection.it doesn't drop the actually connection but just freezes or slows down to an unusable amount.
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Confirmed, same experienced here.
Didn't the z1 have this problem
That may depend on the router or its settings. Had the same "freeze" issue when connected to my AVM 7490 router set to use channel 100 for 5GHz. Ever since I changed it to channel 48 no more such problems so far.
My bluetooth is similarly awful, in both range and functionality.
WiFi constantly drops and freezes, always has a weak connection compared to my other devices.
Sony have always cheaped out on wireless chips for any of its hardware products, especially things like playstation products (PS4 wifi is the worst I've ever seen), but I didn't expect it for a £500 smartphone!
Ditto. Great 4G on a 10GB cap.
But shocking wifi. It won't connect to I my router half the time, and the other half drops the connection after 10 minutes.
Out of various devices it's the only one, and I've had more devices on.
I'll change the chanel, clear dhcp allocations and usual stuff and see if there is any difference
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Mine seems to have sorted itself out.had excellent wifi at home and up the parents.
Yeah for all their positives sony do pass on some crud wifi chips. Ps4 good example.
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I seem to of narrowed my problems down to the router at work so Yaay lol.
As for Ps4, I think they're getting some unfair stick. I have mine connected to crappy BT home hub and the wifi connection is excellent.
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But shocking wifi. It won't connect to I my router half the time, and the other half drops the connection after 10 minutes.
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Swapped it for another router (I got a random duplicate from my isp, glad I kept it) and the problems gone. Mostly. still drops from time to time. but usable
Jonathan-H said:
I seem to of narrowed my problems down to the router at work so Yaay lol.
As for Ps4, I think they're getting some unfair stick. I have mine connected to crappy BT home hub and the wifi connection is excellent.
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It seems to be random. My mate has a launch day model like me, and his WiFi is excellent to his 6 year old Sky wireless G router.
I have the newest homehub, one of the best rated routers on the market right now, and the connection from my PS4 to it is incredibly unstable. Every online game lags horrendously, especially BF4. Plus on my 80mb connection it allows for 3MB/s downloads at most. With an wired connection, no lag at all, and the download speed hits max every time.
The same thing seems to apply to the Z3. So its a sony thing. My first Z3 the wifi and BT were unusable. 3rd Z3, and wifi is the best I've ever used on a mobile device, and I havent even connected to my AC network yet to try. Bluetooth I've yet to try though.
istrikerx said:
I have the newest homehub, one of the best rated routers on the market right now, and the connection from my PS4 to it is incredibly unstable. Every online game lags horrendously, especially BF4. Plus on my 80mb connection it allows for 3MB/s downloads at most. With an wired connection, no lag at all, and the download speed hits max every time.
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AVM Fritz!Box here, newest model, got it when I moved because I'm on a business contract, even though I didn't want it. Has a multiuser NAS, SmartHome and whatnot, and one app for everything.
But when on WiFi with my MacBook Pro, ping times sometimes go up to over 250 ms, then back down to the usual 12. I have no idea why, it doesn't happen when connected to it via Ethernet. Bandwidth itself never seemed to be an issue though, and the Z3 performs great with it though.
TL;DR: Trying a different router can make a huge difference.
I was having the same wifi issues...my network was saved, I kept re typing my password thinking maybe I entered it in incorrectly but kept getting the "Authentication Failed" message. I was able to get the phone connected to my home wifi buy simply hitting the "Forget" option...then it automatically read the IP address and accessed the network...smh hopefully this helps for Everybody else....or some at least

Wifi showing 1Mbps connection speed

Hello guys,
I just received my Motorola Photon Q mobile. Asked Cornholio to do the SIM mod.
Tested my new phone yesterday with carbonROM . Well I Must say all looks good except wifi.
Wifi speed is showing me 1Mbps
My old xperia mini pro is showing me someting around 70Mbps. My wife has got new mobile too ( Lenovo Vibe X2 ) and she has 150Mbps.
Even her old Iphone 4S is showing her 70Mbps or so.
So it looks like there is some problem with my new phone.
My router is Netgear JWNR2000V2.
Do you guys have some experience with this ?
Thanks a lot
Is it actually slow?
You won't get 150 or even 70 mbps as the phone doesn't do 802.11n IIRC. G is limited to 54mbps, and that is 'ideal'. Also the phone doesn't do the 5ghz band, so you are limited to 2.4ghz.
Unless you wifi speeds are actually slow, who cares what it says it is connected at.
arrrghhh said:
Is it actually slow?
You won't get 150 or even 70 mbps as the phone doesn't do 802.11n IIRC. G is limited to 54mbps, and that is 'ideal'. Also the phone doesn't do the 5ghz band, so you are limited to 2.4ghz.
Unless you wifi speeds are actually slow, who cares what it says it is connected at.
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That's not completely right.
It does 802.11n but not the 5GHz band.
It also has only one WLAN antenna, so the speed is limited.
Looking in OpenWRT it shows for my PQ:
RX Rate -> 72.2 Mbit/s, MCS 7, 20MHz
TX Rate -> 65.0 Mbit/s, MCS 7, 20MHz
MCS Index -> http://mcsindex.com/
Btw. it is actually better using 802.11n over 802.11g.
So don't disable 802.11n in your router, consider to disable 802.11b instead.
Well yeah it is slow.
I was not able to connect or load the Google store yesterday on my new Photon Q.
But I must say it is connected. I saw some threads whre ppl were complaining that wifi is connected and disconnected after some time. I do not have this. I have just this connection speed is 1Mbps So watching youtube videos or surfing web on the phone through wifi is not possible at the moment
So I am oging to do some testing today. Hope I will find the problem.
Loader009 said:
That's not completely right.
It does 802.11n but not the 5GHz band.
It also has only one WLAN antenna, so the speed is limited.
Looking in OpenWRT it shows for my PQ:
RX Rate -> 72.2 Mbit/s, MCS 7, 20MHz
TX Rate -> 65.0 Mbit/s, MCS 7, 20MHz
MCS Index -> http://mcsindex.com/
Btw. it is actually better using 802.11n over 802.11g.
So don't disable 802.11n in your router, consider to disable 802.11b instead.
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I was never able to get my N network to connect... but I may have been forcing it to 5ghz, which explains why it wouldn't have connected.
I haven't used my Q in a year or so personally, so this was all from memory. Either way, the hardware is 3 years old at this point, so the newest wifi tech is a bit beyond its manufacture date.
@arrrghhh, sadly I cannot disable 802.11g in OpenWRT with my router (a driver limitation I guess) so I cannot test it.
There were also some limitations on wether it connects and if it is stable (a wireless setting "preamble" [short/long] caused me random crashes).
@Jovzin, if I remember right, there have been reports that a defective WiFi antenna might be the problem.
Though, I'm not sure where and how the antenna is connected. I only know that there is a "special plastic" within the phone, which replaces the antenna.
Loader009 said:
@arrrghhh, sadly I cannot disable 802.11g in OpenWRT with my router (a driver limitation I guess) so I cannot test it.
There were also some limitations on wether it connects and if it is stable (a wireless setting "preamble" [short/long] caused me random crashes).
@Jovzin, if I remember right, there have been reports that a defective WiFi antenna might be the problem.
Though, I'm not sure where and how the antenna is connected. I only know that there is a "special plastic" within the phone, which replaces the antenna.
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Do you think this will help ?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MOTOROLA-PH...7&pid=100005&rk=1&rkt=6&sd=131158027161&rt=nc
Cause I am desperate. I tried now to do the Wifi tether from my wife's new mobile Lenovo vibe X2 the phones were close to each other and still 1Mbps Crap
Did test with my router: When I was about 5 meters away I got 26Mbps. I got closer to router and it drops back to 1-2 Mbps. So really do not know what is happening crap.
Jovzin said:
Do you think this will help ?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MOTOROLA-PH...7&pid=100005&rk=1&rkt=6&sd=131158027161&rt=nc
Cause I am desperate. I tried now to do the Wifi tether from my wife's new mobile Lenovo vibe X2 the phones were close to each other and still 1Mbps Crap
Did test with my router: When I was about 5 meters away I got 26Mbps. I got closer to router and it drops back to 1-2 Mbps. So really do not know what is happening crap.
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What is your router configured to broadcast? Have you tried changing any of the settings? Are you sure the hardware is OK - did you test it before the SIM modification?
@Jovzin, it might help, yes. (Shipping costs are pretty high.)
But first you should open your PQ and take a look.
Maybe CornholioGSM just forgot to attach it correctly and you don't need to replace anything.
Also, please answer to arrrghhhs question.
Are you sure it isn't a power saving function? Try downloading something in the background and then checking the connection speed.
My droid 4 also connects at 1Mbps when the connection is idle. Laptop wireless adapters also commonly do this to save power - they show their unthrottled speed on the wireless panel but you can see it connecting at 1mbps when idle on both the router and 3rd party wireless utils.
Hello some good news.
I did a factory reset.
And now somehow it is working. And I am sure taht I have uncheckd that battery saver for wifi.
But when the phone is idle it is 1Mbps. When I am downloading somethign from store it is 65Mbps. Hmm there is some build in saver ? Which is different than this power saver wifi which I can tick in wifi options ?
Anyway I am happy that somehow it is working
Thanks for help guys
If I may one more question.
It is possible to watch HD youtube videos on PQ ? Cause in youtube app I see only 360p Was hoping that there will be option for 720 at least...
If you enabled 40mhz channel width on the router (you're using 20mhz now), you could double the 65mbps to 130mbps, but this only really works well if you're using 5ghz channel, or have a very quiet 2.4ghz channel, otherwise you're subjected to more interference.
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If you enabled 40mhz channel width on the router (you're using 20mhz now), you could double the 65mbps to 130mbps, but this only really works well if you're using 5ghz channel, or have a very quiet 2.4ghz channel, otherwise you're subjected to more interference.
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Correct.
In 2.4GHz (what the PQ can) it is contraproductive to use 40MHz channel.
It even can be slowed down in a "noisy" environment (I gave it already up).
Also, this is ruthless to your neighbours, so don't.
In 5GHz it is only usable if you can use more than just a few channels.
Even then, it is obvious that most devices are 2.4 GHz and just "a few" can 5GHz (the PQ cannot).
So it actually is not a problem to use 40MHz channel in 5GHz. In future this might change.

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