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[Q] Bluetooth kills wifi

I was always suspect of this, but now I have confirmation. Last night I was streaming some live video to my phone in high quality (twitch app, watching starcraft 2). I also have a little bluetooth speaker that I was using. So it turns out, that the video would lag when the bluetooth speaker was connected, but not when the sound was just coming out of the phone speakers (bluetooth antennae still kept on). I tried this back and fourth 4 times, to make sure that it wasn't just a coincidence, and it wasn't.
So now this makes me think, when I'm using a Mogo Pro controller through bluetooth, does this make the multiplayer gaming lag? I have to wonder, because I play Modern Combat 4 multiplayer, and get lag spikes often. I always assumed it was just the ****ty servers, since they drop matches all the time.
NOTE: I have done a search, and only found a couple threads of people complaining about the same thing, but not getting any constructive help. I want to know if this is a defect, a design flaw of the One X, or a design flaw of bluetooth/wifi.

Makes sense. Bluetooth uses 2.4ghz frequency hopping spread spectrum, WiFi uses 2.4ghz wideband transmission... Every so often the Bluetooth signal will overlap with the wirless channel causing interference. If you wanted you could buy a 5ghz wireless router to eliminate the problem.
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ECEXCURSION said:
Makes sense. Bluetooth uses 2.4ghz frequency hopping spread spectrum, WiFi uses 2.4ghz wideband transmission... Every so often the Bluetooth signal will overlap with the wirless channel causing interference. If you wanted you could buy a 5ghz wireless router to eliminate the problem.
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Oh, interesting. That makes sense. I actually have a dual band N router, is there a way for me to force my HOX to connect with 5ghz only?
EDIT: I am mistaken. I don't have a dual band router. I was looking forward to at least pinning down the problem.

theOPEC said:
Oh, interesting. That makes sense. I actually have a dual band N router, is there a way for me to force my HOX to connect with 5ghz only?
EDIT: I am mistaken. I don't have a dual band router. I was looking forward to at least pinning down the problem.
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In case you do get a new router, yes you can force 5gHz only. It's under the Wi-Fi advanced menu.
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Nexus 5 max wifi speed?

What's the theorical max speed the Nexus 5 can reach while using wifi? I recently upgraded my wifi speed to 100 mbs but I was shocked to see that the maximum speed that speed test on the Nexus shows is 50 mbps, all speedtest apps available on the store max at 50, is 50 mbps the maximum speed for phones right now??
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150Mbps is the max theoretical.
It's a 1x1 radio so 75Mbps x 2 (40Mhz).
This is more likely in the 5Ghz range instead of the 2.4Ghz one.

Chad_Petree said:
What's the theorical max speed the Nexus 5 can reach while using wifi? I recently upgraded my wifi speed to 100 mbs but I was shocked to see that the maximum speed that speed test on the Nexus shows is 50 mbps, all speedtest apps available on the store max at 50, is 50 mbps the maximum speed for phones right now??
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I would double check that your upgrade actually went through.
Sent from my Nexus 5

i believe hardware wise it's 300 mbps for the nexus 5
but there are not that many servers or routers that will give you this.
i test off a gig server for speedtest, not sure what FCC uses.
i have gig fiber and a netgear R7000 router

Just to make sure it's not being overlooked... i'm HOPING you're not saying that you upgraded your wireless router and are expecting to have incredibly fast web browsing, but your internet connection is still 50Mbps....

Chad_Petree said:
What's the theorical max speed the Nexus 5 can reach while using wifi? I recently upgraded my wifi speed to 100 mbs but I was shocked to see that the maximum speed that speed test on the Nexus shows is 50 mbps, all speedtest apps available on the store max at 50, is 50 mbps the maximum speed for phones right now??
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router might be limited to 50 mbps

Anandtech clocked it at an average 136Mbps and had some interesting things to say about the WiFi antenna.
It’s interesting to me that both the Note 3 and Nexus 5 pack the same combo, and end up having just about the same throughput, an average of 135 Mbps when attached with the best MCS, with very brief spikes to just below 300 Mbps. Oddly enough one thing I noticed is that touch input seems to be blocked entirely on the Nexus 5 until iPerf is quit. I’m not sure what’s going on here when the WiFi link is completely saturated, but it seems that touch response becomes very slow. I have no issues with range or connection stability on the Nexus 5, and I’ll also note that the device doesn’t antenna share, but rather has a discrete antenna for WLAN/BT.
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norwoodesteel said:
i believe hardware wise it's 300 mbps for the nexus 5
but there are not that many servers or routers that will give you this.
i test off a gig server for speedtest, not sure what FCC uses.
i have gig fiber and a netgear R7000 router
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Wow. Actually 300Mbps from a Nexus 5? What does your Link speed show for your SSID? I don't think I've seen my Nexus 5 with a Link speed over 150Mbps, and this is on a 5GHz Access Point that my notebook connects to at 300Mbps.

BinkXDA said:
Wow. Actually 300Mbps from a Nexus 5? What does your Link speed show for your SSID? I don't think I've seen my Nexus 5 with a Link speed over 150Mbps, and this is on a 5GHz Access Point that my notebook connects to at 300Mbps.
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it still drops to 40 mbps due to nexus 5/avdroid bug. have turn off/on wifi to fix a couple of times a day

norwoodesteel said:
i believe hardware wise it's 300 mbps for the nexus 5
but there are not that many servers or routers that will give you this.
i test off a gig server for speedtest, not sure what FCC uses.
i have gig fiber and a netgear R7000 router
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I want that.

norwoodesteel said:
router might be limited to 50 mbps
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elementaldragon said:
Just to make sure it's not being overlooked... i'm HOPING you're not saying that you upgraded your wireless router and are expecting to have incredibly fast web browsing, but your internet connection is still 50Mbps....
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PhilipTD said:
I would double check that your upgrade actually went through.
Sent from my Nexus 5
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Yes, I double checked, and no I didn't just just upgraded my router, previously I had 30 mbps (theorically) and now I have 100 mbps (theorically) , I upgraded my internet plan and I got a new modem/router (the company sent the modem, otherwise I would have not been able to use the new speed) , I did a couple of tests with my laptop and with my phone, I sat next to the router and I got around 80 mbps with the laptop and around 50 mbps with my phone, a pretty big difference

norwoodesteel said:
it still drops to 40 mbps due to nexus 5/avdroid bug. have turn off/on wifi to fix a couple of times a day
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Haven't heard of that bug. URL?
I just ran speedtest on my Comcast Business line ... it's suppose to be a 50/24mbps line. I got 56.10 down on the first try and 58.9 on the second. I don't think the N5 or Android are the issue with this fellows tests.

I've recently upgraded to 120Mbps and can't get higher than 60Mbps on either my Nexus 5 or 7 (2013) but my Macbook Pro reaches 120Mbps no problem. All on the same router and at 5Ghz (not tested at the same time, I should add!) so I don't know what's going on.
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shotta35 said:
150Mbps is the max theoretical.
It's a 1x1 radio so 75Mbps x 2 (40Mhz).
This is more likely in the 5Ghz range instead of the 2.4Ghz one.
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what do you mean with "it's a 1x1 radio"? If I have a router which has both 2.4 ghz and 5 ghz, how does it decide which band will it work with?

Dalvik the Great said:
I've recently upgraded to 120Mbps and can't get higher than 60Mbps on either my Nexus 5 or 7 (2013) but my Macbook Pro reaches 120Mbps no problem. All on the same router and at 5Ghz (not tested at the same time, I should add!) so I don't know what's going on.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2514501
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aergern said:
Haven't heard of that bug. URL?
I just ran speedtest on my Comcast Business line ... it's suppose to be a 50/24mbps line. I got 56.10 down on the first try and 58.9 on the second. I don't think the N5 or Android are the issue with this fellows tests.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2514501

Chad_Petree said:
what do you mean with "it's a 1x1 radio"? If I have a router which has both 2.4 ghz and 5 ghz, how does it decide which band will it work with?
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The WIFI chip, because of size constraints was limited to how many streams it can handle since it does other duties too (I think Bluetooth and maybe others). The older phones (Nexus 4 and others) also had 1x1 spatial streams but were limited to 20mhz so that's why their max was 75Mbps (or some 72Mbps which some routers will show). The Nexus 5 has a 40mhz chip so it can link at faster rates. Using iPerf I think doesn' send TCP ACKs so that's why they were able to get 136Mbps which is close to the theoretical 150Mbps (or 144Mbps). In the real world however you wont get anything close to that as the internet works on TCP so it has to ACKnowledge every transmission which slows down reception of new data.
1x1 is relating to the spatial streams that a chip can handle..
In order to send faster speeds the device sends and receives streams at the same time. This is why new routers have 3 physical antennas, each connected to a radio (those are 3x3 ones).
In the N spec, each radio can send at a max of 75Mbps using 20Mhz of bandwidth. When you double that to 40Mhz you get 150Mbps. This is why 3x3 routers can do 450Mbps (vs 300Mbps).
The AC routers use the same layout (of 3x3) but because of their better tech (encoding, compression and such) they can put more information within the same bandwidth (20, 40Mhz) and they can use more of it as well since 802.11AC is in the 5Ghz range. They can then use 80Mhz channels as well.
So for AC per spatial stream is about 86Mbps per 20mhz.
So for AC you get 3x3 x 80mhz = 1.3Gbps (1.286Gbps) or only 600Mbps for 40mhz wide channel.
http://www.merunetworks.com/products/technology/80211ac/
There's a chart on that page which breaks it down a bit more as well as more info.
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As for which it decides to use that depends on a few things.
- If you have the same SSID/Password on both then it will use the stronger signal
- IF you have different ones then it will use whichever you specify till it can't anymore then it will jump onto the next known connection (that is if you have both saved)
- If you only specify 1 frequency to use then it will use that

shotta35 said:
The WIFI chip, because of size constraints was limited to how many streams it can handle since it does other duties too (I think Bluetooth and maybe others). The older phones (Nexus 4 and others) also had 1x1 spatial streams but were limited to 20mhz so that's why their max was 75Mbps (or some 72Mbps which some routers will show). The Nexus 5 has a 40mhz chip so it can link at faster rates. Using iPerf I think doesn' send TCP ACKs so that's why they were able to get 136Mbps which is close to the theoretical 150Mbps (or 144Mbps). In the real world however you wont get anything close to that as the internet works on TCP so it has to ACKnowledge every transmission which slows down reception of new data.
1x1 is relating to the spatial streams that a chip can handle..
In order to send faster speeds the device sends and receives streams at the same time. This is why new routers have 3 physical antennas, each connected to a radio (those are 3x3 ones).
In the N spec, each radio can send at a max of 75Mbps using 20Mhz of bandwidth. When you double that to 40Mhz you get 150Mbps. This is why 3x3 routers can do 450Mbps (vs 300Mbps).
The AC routers use the same layout (of 3x3) but because of their better tech (encoding, compression and such) they can put more information within the same bandwidth (20, 40Mhz) and they can use more of it as well since 802.11AC is in the 5Ghz range. They can then use 80Mhz channels as well.
So for AC per spatial stream is about 86Mbps per 20mhz.
So for AC you get 3x3 x 80mhz = 1.3Gbps (1.286Gbps) or only 600Mbps for 40mhz wide channel.
http://www.merunetworks.com/products/technology/80211ac/
There's a chart on that page which breaks it down a bit more as well as more info.
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As for which it decides to use that depends on a few things.
- If you have the same SSID/Password on both then it will use the stronger signal
- IF you have different ones then it will use whichever you specify till it can't anymore then it will jump onto the next known connection (that is if you have both saved)
- If you only specify 1 frequency to use then it will use that
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Thanks for all the info, I have to reread it because I didn't understand all of it hahaha, what do you mean with if they have the same password? you mean the router and the modem?

Chad_Petree said:
Thanks for all the info, I have to reread it because I didn't understand all of it hahaha, what do you mean with if they have the same password? you mean the router and the modem?
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Your 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz frequencies on the router can have 2 different SSIDs or the same. Most people use different ones as a way to identify them but also doesn't allow roaming between them since the device will see it as a separate network.

shotta35 said:
Your 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz frequencies on the router can have 2 different SSIDs or the same. Most people use different ones as a way to identify them but also doesn't allow roaming between them since the device will see it as a separate network.
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I did the "quick setup" and i'm completely sure I just set up a password , so I should have only "one network" I did a test with my nexus 5 and set it to receive only 5 ghz signals, and it didn't find my network, then I set it to search just for 2.4 ghz networks and it found mine, I'm guessing that means only 2.4 ghz is working? I'll attach a screenshot of the setup of my modem/router , since there are THICK walls on my apartment , 2.4 ghz would be ideal for me right since it can penetrate objects better , the situation with me is that my walls are very thick but I'm relatively close to the modem/router, around 20 meters I would say.
I'm really desperate, I don't know what to do anymore, I currently have a Router/Modem (a router that includes a modem) I was thinking of buying a new and good router but how would I connect it to the Router/Modem , it doesn't have a WAN port, only LAN ports or maybe I should upgrade my Modem/Router , what would you recommend? To have a Router/Modem or a Modem + a Router? I'm under the impression that Routers/Modem (Router with modem included) don't have the best signal strength , since the antennas are on the inside, unlike a modem like the Asus RT-AC68U which has three antennas on the outside! :laugh:

To clarify, speedtest (like speedtest.net) measures your internet speed which is controlled mostly in part by your ISP. Typically your internal network speeds (Wifi or hard wired) are much greater then your ISP speeds. Your Wifi connection speeds only matter for transferring files across your own network assuming your Wifi connection is faster than your ISP (which it likely is).
The Nexus 5 supports Dual-band Wi-Fi (2.4G/5G) 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac. My home network has a 5Ghz N SSID running at 450mbps and the Nexus claims to connect at that speed, however my Comcast internet is 25mbps so an app like speedtest shows 25mbps. I havent tested to confirm my Nexus can pull 450mbps across the network but i could try it.
Again, what really matters is your internet speed and that your router is at least that fast. Most home internet is well below 100mbps on average and even dirt cheap N routers can hit 150mbps and up. Hardware wise the Nexus can connect to N 2.4/5Ghz and AC 2.4/5Ghz, so id imagine it should be fine for a long time.
I'm under the impression that Modem/Routers (Modem with routers included) don't have the best signal strength , since the antennas are on the inside, unlike a modem like the Asus RT-AC68U which has three antennas on the outside! :laugh:
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I have the ASUS RT-N65U which has no external antenna and i get a signal in my apt complexes parking lot through about 3 cinder block walls at a distance of about 50-100 yards. Granted at that point its a weak signal but i cant imagine it having an issue in anything other then a mansion. Best router ive ever owned, highly recommend Asus.

Wifi showing 1Mbps connection speed

Hello guys,
I just received my Motorola Photon Q mobile. Asked Cornholio to do the SIM mod.
Tested my new phone yesterday with carbonROM . Well I Must say all looks good except wifi.
Wifi speed is showing me 1Mbps
My old xperia mini pro is showing me someting around 70Mbps. My wife has got new mobile too ( Lenovo Vibe X2 ) and she has 150Mbps.
Even her old Iphone 4S is showing her 70Mbps or so.
So it looks like there is some problem with my new phone.
My router is Netgear JWNR2000V2.
Do you guys have some experience with this ?
Thanks a lot

Is it actually slow?
You won't get 150 or even 70 mbps as the phone doesn't do 802.11n IIRC. G is limited to 54mbps, and that is 'ideal'. Also the phone doesn't do the 5ghz band, so you are limited to 2.4ghz.
Unless you wifi speeds are actually slow, who cares what it says it is connected at.

arrrghhh said:
Is it actually slow?
You won't get 150 or even 70 mbps as the phone doesn't do 802.11n IIRC. G is limited to 54mbps, and that is 'ideal'. Also the phone doesn't do the 5ghz band, so you are limited to 2.4ghz.
Unless you wifi speeds are actually slow, who cares what it says it is connected at.
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That's not completely right.
It does 802.11n but not the 5GHz band.
It also has only one WLAN antenna, so the speed is limited.
Looking in OpenWRT it shows for my PQ:
RX Rate -> 72.2 Mbit/s, MCS 7, 20MHz
TX Rate -> 65.0 Mbit/s, MCS 7, 20MHz
MCS Index -> http://mcsindex.com/
Btw. it is actually better using 802.11n over 802.11g.
So don't disable 802.11n in your router, consider to disable 802.11b instead.

Well yeah it is slow.
I was not able to connect or load the Google store yesterday on my new Photon Q.
But I must say it is connected. I saw some threads whre ppl were complaining that wifi is connected and disconnected after some time. I do not have this. I have just this connection speed is 1Mbps So watching youtube videos or surfing web on the phone through wifi is not possible at the moment
So I am oging to do some testing today. Hope I will find the problem.

Loader009 said:
That's not completely right.
It does 802.11n but not the 5GHz band.
It also has only one WLAN antenna, so the speed is limited.
Looking in OpenWRT it shows for my PQ:
RX Rate -> 72.2 Mbit/s, MCS 7, 20MHz
TX Rate -> 65.0 Mbit/s, MCS 7, 20MHz
MCS Index -> http://mcsindex.com/
Btw. it is actually better using 802.11n over 802.11g.
So don't disable 802.11n in your router, consider to disable 802.11b instead.
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I was never able to get my N network to connect... but I may have been forcing it to 5ghz, which explains why it wouldn't have connected.
I haven't used my Q in a year or so personally, so this was all from memory. Either way, the hardware is 3 years old at this point, so the newest wifi tech is a bit beyond its manufacture date.

@arrrghhh, sadly I cannot disable 802.11g in OpenWRT with my router (a driver limitation I guess) so I cannot test it.
There were also some limitations on wether it connects and if it is stable (a wireless setting "preamble" [short/long] caused me random crashes).
@Jovzin, if I remember right, there have been reports that a defective WiFi antenna might be the problem.
Though, I'm not sure where and how the antenna is connected. I only know that there is a "special plastic" within the phone, which replaces the antenna.

Loader009 said:
@arrrghhh, sadly I cannot disable 802.11g in OpenWRT with my router (a driver limitation I guess) so I cannot test it.
There were also some limitations on wether it connects and if it is stable (a wireless setting "preamble" [short/long] caused me random crashes).
@Jovzin, if I remember right, there have been reports that a defective WiFi antenna might be the problem.
Though, I'm not sure where and how the antenna is connected. I only know that there is a "special plastic" within the phone, which replaces the antenna.
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Do you think this will help ?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MOTOROLA-PH...7&pid=100005&rk=1&rkt=6&sd=131158027161&rt=nc
Cause I am desperate. I tried now to do the Wifi tether from my wife's new mobile Lenovo vibe X2 the phones were close to each other and still 1Mbps Crap
Did test with my router: When I was about 5 meters away I got 26Mbps. I got closer to router and it drops back to 1-2 Mbps. So really do not know what is happening crap.

Jovzin said:
Do you think this will help ?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MOTOROLA-PH...7&pid=100005&rk=1&rkt=6&sd=131158027161&rt=nc
Cause I am desperate. I tried now to do the Wifi tether from my wife's new mobile Lenovo vibe X2 the phones were close to each other and still 1Mbps Crap
Did test with my router: When I was about 5 meters away I got 26Mbps. I got closer to router and it drops back to 1-2 Mbps. So really do not know what is happening crap.
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What is your router configured to broadcast? Have you tried changing any of the settings? Are you sure the hardware is OK - did you test it before the SIM modification?

@Jovzin, it might help, yes. (Shipping costs are pretty high.)
But first you should open your PQ and take a look.
Maybe CornholioGSM just forgot to attach it correctly and you don't need to replace anything.
Also, please answer to arrrghhhs question.

Are you sure it isn't a power saving function? Try downloading something in the background and then checking the connection speed.
My droid 4 also connects at 1Mbps when the connection is idle. Laptop wireless adapters also commonly do this to save power - they show their unthrottled speed on the wireless panel but you can see it connecting at 1mbps when idle on both the router and 3rd party wireless utils.

Hello some good news.
I did a factory reset.
And now somehow it is working. And I am sure taht I have uncheckd that battery saver for wifi.
But when the phone is idle it is 1Mbps. When I am downloading somethign from store it is 65Mbps. Hmm there is some build in saver ? Which is different than this power saver wifi which I can tick in wifi options ?
Anyway I am happy that somehow it is working
Thanks for help guys
If I may one more question.
It is possible to watch HD youtube videos on PQ ? Cause in youtube app I see only 360p Was hoping that there will be option for 720 at least...

If you enabled 40mhz channel width on the router (you're using 20mhz now), you could double the 65mbps to 130mbps, but this only really works well if you're using 5ghz channel, or have a very quiet 2.4ghz channel, otherwise you're subjected to more interference.

Elanzer said:
If you enabled 40mhz channel width on the router (you're using 20mhz now), you could double the 65mbps to 130mbps, but this only really works well if you're using 5ghz channel, or have a very quiet 2.4ghz channel, otherwise you're subjected to more interference.
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Correct.
In 2.4GHz (what the PQ can) it is contraproductive to use 40MHz channel.
It even can be slowed down in a "noisy" environment (I gave it already up).
Also, this is ruthless to your neighbours, so don't.
In 5GHz it is only usable if you can use more than just a few channels.
Even then, it is obvious that most devices are 2.4 GHz and just "a few" can 5GHz (the PQ cannot).
So it actually is not a problem to use 40MHz channel in 5GHz. In future this might change.

Terrible wifi downlink speed over 5GHz

I'm having some serious issues with my 5GHz connection on my brand new Honor 8. 2.4GHz works just fine, getting around 40Mbps which is expected for 2.4, but sometimes on 5GHz I'm not even getting 1Mbps down... However, the upload speed is mostly fine.
I have a 100/10 connection btw. Asus rt n56u router with padavan firmware. Not experiencing this issue with any other devices. I have tried changing channels on the router, and the bandwith to 20/40 only but it didn't make any difference.
What might be wrong? I appreciate any help I can get.
Thanks.
Speedtest.net result: http://i.imgur.com/TiOjlG4.png

Bakgrund said:
I'm having some serious issues with my 5GHz connection on my brand new Honor 8. 2.4GHz works just fine, getting around 40Mbps which is expected for 2.4, but sometimes on 5GHz I'm not even getting 1Mbps down... However, the upload speed is mostly fine.
I have a 100/10 connection btw. Asus rt n56u router with padavan firmware. Not experiencing this issue with any other devices. I have tried changing channels on the router, and the bandwith to 20/40 only but it didn't make any difference.
What might be wrong? I appreciate any help I can get.
Thanks.
Speedtest.net result: http://i.imgur.com/TiOjlG4.png
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Have you tried rebooting the modem/router? Sometimes that helps.
Ps i`am getting 200-240 MB download speed on my 300 mb 5Ghz router.

gee2012 said:
Have you tried rebooting the router? Sometimes that helps.
Ps i`am getting 200-240 MB download speed on my 300 mb 5Ghz router.
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Yes, multiple times, unfortunately it didn't make any difference.
However I noticed something interesting now, it only seems to suck in my room. When I went to the kitchen I was getting around 90Mbps. Can it simply be interference? But what else can there be in my specific room that operates at the same frequency? And why is only the downlink bad, and why isn't it happening to any other devices? It seems weird to me...

Bakgrund said:
Yes, multiple times, unfortunately it didn't make any difference.
However I noticed something interesting now, it only seems to suck in my room. When I went to the kitchen I was getting around 90Mbps. Can it simply be interference? But what else can there be in my specific room that operates at the same frequency? And why is only the downlink bad, and why isn't it happening to any other devices? It seems weird to me...
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Use wifi analyser to check issues. Sometimes when router is set to auto channel, it may setup the connection in such a way of excellent short distance data burst but medium/long distance signal loss. Check for channel overlap.
Also 5Ghz is by nature a closer range frequency, compared to 2.4Ghz.
First you must rule out phone problem: test with other network and/or router at 5Ghz. Even using different wifi equipments doesn't mean a thing. Same chipset can have different implementations and network antenna.

Its just the range of the 5GHz signal. The maximum usable range of 5 GHz Wi-Fi is 3m and 2.4 GHz Wi-Fi is 12m. Thats all its nothing to do with your device. Walls etc will reduce that even further.

Max 5ghz speed only 433Mbps
Anyone know a way to get more? My router is capable of much higher speeds. On my Nexus 6P I got around 800+

vorzox said:
Anyone know a way to get more? My router is capable of much higher speeds. On my Nexus 6P I got around 800+
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1. install WiFi analyzer app and see what channels are being used most by 5GHz networks. If is set to automatic, manually set your 5 ghz network to an unused channel (try using the lower 5GHz channels instead of the upper ones)
2. there's an existing bug in Android where connecting to some IPv6 routers makes data lag. Try turning off IPv6 or at least IPv6 broadcasting on your router.
3. make sure your router firmware is up to date.

Max 5ghz speed only 433Mbps
jeidsoter said:
1. install WiFi analyzer app and see what channels are being used most by 5GHz networks. If is set to automatic, manually set your 5 ghz network to an unused channel (try using the lower 5GHz channels instead of the upper ones)
2. there's an existing bug in Android where connecting to some IPv6 routers makes data lag. Try turning off IPv6 or at least IPv6 broadcasting on your router.
3. make sure your router firmware is up to date.
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Unfortunately after further research last night I'm afraid this is simply a limitation of the of the wifi chip on the phone itself. I use wifi analyzer often and always keep my firmware up to date. I've tried adjusting various settings, even using other Wireless AC routers. 433 is the highest the phone will go. Perhaps Huawei can push an update to remedy the situation.

wifi 2.4GHz

in what speed honor 8 connects to wifi 2.4GHz? mine only at 75 Mbit/s, other devices at 135 Mbit/s
and another question for gsam battery monitor, is working in honor 8 without root? I can't make it work properly

I made a quick google search regarding this.
You might want to look at this
https://www.google.co.in/amp/forums...4-ghz-wifi.html?amp?client=ms-android-samsung

Neil6684 said:
I made a quick google search regarding this.
You might want to look at this
https://www.google.co.in/amp/forums...4-ghz-wifi.html?amp?client=ms-android-samsung
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do you have honor 8? with what speed do you connect to your router (2.4GHz)?

does it also connect at 5ghz?

leo06 said:
do you have honor 8? with what speed do you connect to your router (2.4GHz)?
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The last time I checked it I think it was around 120-125Mbit/s
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mr_reaper said:
does it also connect at 5ghz?
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Yes.Dual band wifi.
Check this out
https://club.hihonor.com/in/eyestoworld.275/dual-band-wifi-for-a-seamless-wifi-connection.11001-1

mr_reaper said:
does it also connect at 5ghz?
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at 5GHz connects with 390Mbit/s, I use 2.4GHz because I think 5GHz uses more power

Neil6684 said:
The last time I checked it I think it was around 120-125Mbit/s
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Yes.Dual band wifi.
Check this out
https://club.hihonor.com/in/eyestoworld.275/dual-band-wifi-for-a-seamless-wifi-connection.11001-1
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it's weird because every other device connects at 135Mbit/s, I am testing it with the devices next to the router

Yes. I just checked it again it connects at 135 Mbit/s.my bad..

It looks like 135 is it's cap (probably because of the modems)

yeh my honor 8 will be here Friday

mr_reaper said:
yeh my honor 8 will be here Friday
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Congrats, when you get it, can you test the wifi at 2.4Ghz to see if it has the cap at 135Mb/s?!
Thank you

CronaMell said:
Congrats, when you get it, can you test the wifi at 2.4Ghz to see if it has the cap at 135Mb/s?!
Thank you
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Yeh I get it friday

mr_reaper said:
Yeh I get it friday
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You won't be disappointed, and report back with the results

CronaMell said:
You won't be disappointed, and report back with the results
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Sure will, my case n protective shield came today

mr_reaper said:
Sure will, my case n protective shield came today
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I'm ordering a case soon again, congrats

leo06 said:
in what speed honor 8 connects to wifi 2.4GHz? mine only at 75 Mbit/s, other devices at 135 Mbit/s
and another question for gsam battery monitor, is working in honor 8 without root? I can't make it work properly
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2.4 Ghz is just a bandwidth, within which there is wireless G/N/AC/{whatever}, all of which operate at different speeds (depending upon walls, and other big tall things that might house steel). So you could get from 50Mbs to 600Mbs depending on those things , but more likely lower.
5 Ghz is just another bandwidth with less range, and less pollution in that range, but still has similarities with N/AC etc and all the usual suspects determining if 5Ghz bandwidth will allow 50Mbs or 600Mbs.
This is just general stuff about bands mostly gleaned from my year of ham radio when I was ~13 or so ; . Where I work, we're using 10 year old 2.4Ghz "real" (not just labeled d-link junk) Cisco wifi access points with multiple VLANs and extremely high throughput. They only handle WIFI g. They probably get double what I get at home (~100Mbs) and are completely reliable. I don't know how much faith to put into some bandwidth except that my own experience is that 5Ghz isn't all that hot for home networks.
The other thing:: Gsam not working right: If you're in emui 4.x and you've somehow managed to enable power profiles, then that's your problem. They work like dervishes that want to kill everything including Gsam & other mgmt services. Doesn't matter what you tell them. They do save power but you will never be able to use gsam to tell.
Disable those things and try gsam again. It's what fixed mine.
If you're in emui 5, then disregard the above since power profiles aren't working there and in fact, aren't in the OS GUI for settings yet. In fact, Until you issue the statement involving permissions (see my other post today about gsam) , it can't even really read anything done by another process. It's a 7.0 feature (yikes!)... ;;0
This seems a good writeup (in answer to a similar question about bands for wifi) that I've looked at before:
It's hard to answer the question "What is the max speed of 5GHz in mbps?" in a general sense. In the context of 802.11 (Wi-Fi), "5GHz" is a radio frequency band -- a range of frequencies that you can use for things like Wi-Fi. A range of frequencies doesn't have a performance limit, other than the theoretical Shannon limit, but calculating the Shannon limit requires knowing the signal-to-noise ratio of the transmission, which varies.
So instead, we have to talk about things like the max speed specified for use in the 5GHz band in the latest 802.11 specs (600mbps), or what the latest equipment can do (450mbps), or what your particular AP can do (300mbps), or what's the best rate a cheap client—such as clients that are only 1x1:1, or don't support wide channels (HT40, 40MHz channels), or can't do Short Guard Intervals—can get when connected to your router (150mbps, 130mbps, and 65mbps are the max speeds for clients with certain limitations typical of cheap gear) and what actual throughput you can expect in any of those cases (about 50-60% of the above numbers).
802.11n has provisions for operation up to 600 mbps signaling using APs and clients that have 4 radio chains (supporting 4 spacial streams, sometimes denoted as "4x4:4"), but note that no one has shipped 4x4:4 equipment yet.
In late 2009, 3x3:3, 450mbps 802.11n equipment started hitting the market. Apple's late-2009 refresh of the AirPort Extreme and Time Capsule supported that. Apple's "Thunderbolt" refresh of the MacBook Pros and iMacs in spring 2011 also supported that.
Your Netgear WNDR3700 N600 is only a 2x2:2, 300 mbps product, so it's no faster than the earliest draft-N gear from late 2006. But at least it's simultaneous dual-band, which is nice. I think that simultaneous dual-band 2x2:2 gear generally hit the market in 2008.
Also beware that 802.11 has lots of overhead, so the rule of thumb is that your TCP throughput will only be about 50-60% of your signaling rate, and you only get the best signaling rates when you're relatively close to the AP with no interference.
As for Question 2 (Range), you'll be fine. You probably won't get your top signaling rate throughout your apartment, but you'll get decent speeds. Remember to leave all the data rates and technologies enabled on both bands so that your clients can choose the best bands and rates to use for best performance at range. That is, leave b/g/n enabled in 2.4GHz, and leave a/n enabled in 5GHz. Don't be tempted to force either band to "N-only" (or "G-only" or "A-only") because that actually just limits the options for your clients, making them less capable of providing the best rate at range.
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hachamacha said:
2.4 Ghz is just a bandwidth, within which there is wireless G/N/AC/{whatever}, all of which operate at different speeds (depending upon walls, and other big tall things that might house steel). So you could get from 50Mbs to 600Mbs depending on those things , but more likely lower.
5 Ghz is just another bandwidth with less range, and less pollution in that range, but still has similarities with N/AC etc and all the usual suspects determining if 5Ghz bandwidth will allow 50Mbs or 600Mbs.
This is just general stuff about bands mostly gleaned from my year of ham radio when I was ~13 or so ; . Where I work, we're using 10 year old 2.4Ghz "real" (not just labeled d-link junk) Cisco wifi access points with multiple VLANs and extremely high throughput. They only handle WIFI g. They probably get double what I get at home (~100Mbs) and are completely reliable. I don't know how much faith to put into some bandwidth except that my own experience is that 5Ghz isn't all that hot for home networks.
The other thing:: Gsam not working right: If you're in emui 4.x and you've somehow managed to enable power profiles, then that's your problem. They work like dervishes that want to kill everything including Gsam & other mgmt services. Doesn't matter what you tell them. They do save power but you will never be able to use gsam to tell.
Disable those things and try gsam again. It's what fixed mine.
If you're in emui 5, then disregard the above since power profiles aren't working there and in fact, aren't in the OS GUI for settings yet. In fact, Until you issue the statement involving permissions (see my other post today about gsam) , it can't even really read anything done by another process. It's a 7.0 feature (yikes!)... ;;0
This seems a good writeup (in answer to a similar question about bands for wifi) that I've looked at before:
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thanks for answer
for gsam , after last update when I started it asked for more privileges, like I was root but I'm not root so with adb command that I don't remember now it seems that is fixed
for wifi now I set the router to N only and width 40MHz (2 options 20 and 40) but I don't know why the honor 8 connects at 20MHz and Is the only device doing that, walls and other objects are not the problem, the phone is only 20cm away from router

leo06 said:
thanks for answer
for gsam , after last update when I started it asked for more privileges, like I was root but I'm not root so with adb command that I don't remember now it seems that is fixed
for wifi now I set the router to N only and width 40MHz (2 options 20 and 40) but I don't know why the honor 8 connects at 20MHz and Is the only device doing that, walls and other objects are not the problem, the phone is only 20cm away from router
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20 & 40Mhz at whatever (N say), can allow 150Mb/s for a client. All 20 and 40 are are the space between channels within the band. For a lot of concurrent clients all going like nuts, the wider the better, but for one two or three, not a biggie.

PocketNow has reported that the Honor 8 doesn't get the best WiFi reception.

my wifi works fine, i pick up mine about 6 houses down, ill do speedtest in a min