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So I bought the Octa Core version too and took some pics with both phones. The i9500 seems to win although the SD600 variant is great too. Shame on Samsung for (probably) two different camera senors on each of them. I'll definitely go with the Exynos version.
There's much more detail on the Exynos version (check out the image of the balcony).
I9500:
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The sensors are the same so if there is a difference in quality is not down to that.
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It's probably a camera software differences and not sensors.
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It's probably a camera software differences and not sensors.
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That is certainly possible. I remember comparing my faulty HD2 photo quality before I returned it with my newly received one just to see if there was a difference in quality and found there was. Sometimes even identical hardware can throw up different results, especially on something as software dependant as a phone. Those photos don't conclusively prove anything.
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First of all, many thanks for this!
The dynamic range is noticeably better on the Octa-core, it still captures the texture of the yellow house under direct sunlight while the SD600 version loses it due to the light flow. The Octa-core also has a little more details as expected with zero traces of noise on the clouds. It appears that the SD600 sensors produces some noise even in daylight, so a minimal denoising and some sharpening is required. As said many times before, the differences are not major but noticeable, hope we'll see some more comparisons, thank you very much for these!
i9500: Sony Exmor RS
i9505: Sony Exmor R
anyway Im very satisfied with i9505 photos! just compared your orange house composition and the difference is minimal except better house wall texture and very little noise difference is minimal!
Comparing the two sets i can tell Exynos is slightly better.
It handles dynamic range better.
Although the differences are minimal.About 3-4% better.
I'd like to see some night shoots comparison as well.
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i9500: Sony Exmor RS
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This hasn't been confirmed by anyone.
sure it did!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41166366&postcount=355
http://www.esato.com/archive/t.php/t-205454,1.html
just check by yourself
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sure it did!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41166366&postcount=355
http://www.esato.com/archive/t.php/t-205454,1.html
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yes sorrowfully it has been confirmed
Pagnell said:
The sensors are the same so if there is a difference in quality is not down to that.
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its been confirmed by many in the camera comparison thread by @BoneXDA
9500 is Sony IMX135(Exmor RS)
9505 is Sony IMX091PQ(Exmor R)
RS sensor is newer one
In the above photos I see no differences, not even between those balcony photos.
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its been confirmed by many in the camera comparison thread by @BoneXDA
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Yep, and to be honest, if it's really true, I'm happy with the Exmor R
Why?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwN_WcBBPaA
Looks more sharper than the RS
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In the above photos I see no differences, not even between those balcony photos.
Yep, and to be honest, if it's really true, I'm happy with the Exmor R
Why?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwN_WcBBPaA
Looks more sharper than the RS
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the video is not valid if the lens used in xperias is different from the one in s4
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the video is not valid if the lens used in xperias is different from the one in s4
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Well, the sensor is more important than the lens, but the lens have its part too. However, I see no differences between the photos posted by op
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Well, the sensor is more important than the lens, but the lens have its part too. However, I see no differences between the photos posted by op
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Sensor and lens are both tremendously important. You're trying to argue against technical facts here backed up by real-world feedback. The RS sensor is simply superior.
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In the above photos I see no differences, not even between those balcony photos.
Yep, and to be honest, if it's really true, I'm happy with the Exmor R
Why?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwN_WcBBPaA
Looks more sharper than the RS
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I agree that both look great, but can you honestly say that you cannot see a difference in the balcony picture crop?
The balcony and the walls have a lot more details on the i9500 in that photo.
When you zoom in the photo, you can also see a difference in the tree leaves and branches, and other small details.
It's pretty easy to spot now that we have side by side photos.
Concerning the video, I wouldn't trust Xperia photo/video quality after seeing photos from those devices, even though it is Exmor RS (the difference with the S4 is huge, I'm guessing their post processing is really bad).
And as AndreiLux said, both the sensor and lens are important.
That being said, noone is saying you shouldn't be happy with the i9505 camera, I've seen extremely good photos taken with that one, to the point that I didn't know whether is was taken by a i9505 or i9500 (in the photos thread), but you don't have to blindly contradict everything that shows the i9500 as a slightly better camera phone to try to convince yourself, just enjoy yours.
In a few months, there will probably be better ones anyway.
Hi guys! i9500 user here from the Philippines..
Do you experience not able to use your phone's cam flash bec. of the phone sayin like "can't use flash bec. of the phone being warm." We know sometime our phones gets warm due to running alot of heavy app or taking videos on your phone but it shouldn't affect using your flash..
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Hi guys! i9500 user here from the Philippines..
Do you experience not able to use your phone's cam flash bec. of the phone sayin like "can't use flash bec. of the phone being warm." We know sometime our phones gets warm due to running alot of heavy app or taking videos on your phone but it shouldn't affect using your flash..
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i saw that it one of the xml files.. did you note the temperature when you got the message?
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i saw that it one of the xml files.. did you note the temperature when you got the message?
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Not yet.. what's the best app to monitor the phones temp? Have you experienced the same flash issue? I mean its works.. its just the on a certain temp the phone will not use flash..
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Not yet.. what's the best app to monitor the phones temp? Have you experienced the same flash issue? I mean its works.. its just the on a certain temp the phone will not use flash..
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use cooltool or system tuner to monitor temps. no i havent experienced this(yet)
I would like to see some pictures that the note takes. Trying to decide between the Note 3 and G2 on sprint. I really want a good camera for taking pics of my constantly moving 1 year old.
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I would like to see some pictures that the note takes. Trying to decide between the Note 3 and G2 on sprint. I really want a good camera for taking pics of my constantly moving 1 year old.
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Here you go, a comparison between the Z1 and Note 3, look for the tags under pictures to identify which one is which.
http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4551/4881230/1/rv/sony-xperia-z1-i1-Honami-review/
I'm pretty sure BTW that both the G2 and the N3 uses a newer revision of the Sony Exmor RS sensor (or Exmor R), so far what I've seen from both are impressive, a bit better in low-light than before, but not Lumia level. In any case, results should be good with both and the best thing you can do is simply walking in and feeling out both. The G2 has the OIS advantage where the Note just feels better in the hand with it's non-glossy texture.
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Here you go, a comparison between the Z1 and Note 3, look for the tags under pictures to identify which one is which.
http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4551/4881230/1/rv/sony-xperia-z1-i1-Honami-review/
I'm pretty sure BTW that both the G2 and the N3 uses a newer revision of the Sony Exmor RS sensor (or Exmor R), so far what I've seen from both are impressive, a bit better in low-light than before, but not Lumia level. In any case, results should be good with both and the best thing you can do is simply walking in and feeling out both. The G2 has the OIS advantage where the Note just feels better in the hand with it's non-glossy texture.
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From the pictures on that site, N3 pictures look infinitely better than the Z1's (especially the close-up pictures), which is quite a surprise. I'm guessing the Z1 needs a software update to it's camera app, because they advertised the camera as one its biggest selling points, so I'm assuming the hardware is not the thing that is at fault here.
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Here you go, a comparison between the Z1 and Note 3, look for the tags under pictures to identify which one is which.
http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4551/4881230/1/rv/sony-xperia-z1-i1-Honami-review/
I'm pretty sure BTW that both the G2 and the N3 uses a newer revision of the Sony Exmor RS sensor (or Exmor R), so far what I've seen from both are impressive, a bit better in low-light than before, but not Lumia level. In any case, results should be good with both and the best thing you can do is simply walking in and feeling out both. The G2 has the OIS advantage where the Note just feels better in the hand with it's non-glossy texture.
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Hey bro, the above link shows an Exynos powered Note 3 and if I remember right, some time before you were suggesting in the S4 forums that the Exynos version of S4 has a superior sensor (Exmor RS) over Snapdragon powered S4 (Exmor R). Do you know if this case holds true with Note 3 variants?
Can people start posting some camera snaps and say whether S800 or Exynos.
Do we got anything on the M9? Maybe January release ?? Anybody know anything. Hoping for optics improvement,ois. HTC is always pretty tight lipped.
I myself hope they upgrade memory to 3 gigs. That and just a bit bigger screen would be cool too.
5.5inch display is the rumor.
Looks like I'll be getting the mini, LOL.
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5.5inch display is the rumor.
Looks like I'll be getting the mini, LOL.
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Yeah I'm with you on that...I feel like anything past 5.2 is just to big.
The only 5.5" device I've heard about, is the HTC One Max Sport with 18mp ois camera.
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The only 5.5" device I've heard about, is the HTC One Max Sport with 18mp ois camera.
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as I said only a rumor, it's based off the fact that the M8 Prime was rumored to be 5.5inch.
I believe it will be in the range of 5.2-5.3 though
Focus on software improvements on the M8.
Everyone complains about the camera, but it's the best smartphone camera I've ever had and I had a iPhone 5S for a minute.
For me the screen is the perfect size.
The only thing I would want to see in a future phone is a bigger battery. If this thing had a bigger battery 2 days would be doable. As it is now the battery is amazing, but it could get better.
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Focus on software improvements on the M8.
Everyone complains about the camera, but it's the best smartphone camera I've ever had and I had a iPhone 5S for a minute.
For me the screen is the perfect size.
The only thing I would want to see in a future phone is a bigger battery. If this thing had a bigger battery 2 days would be doable. As it is now the battery is amazing, but it could get better.
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I agree camera is good but until u zoom in even just 2x zoom quality goes to crap instantly! I say work on that,bigger battery, more ram, 805 chip, call it a day.
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I agree camera is good but until u zoom in even just 2x zoom quality goes to crap instantly! I say work on that,bigger battery, more ram, 805 chip, call it a day.
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You should never zoom on a cell phone camera. Just my thoughts. It's just a digital zoom and you always be better off to capturing everything the lens sees. Do your adjustments post
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Do we got anything on the M9? Maybe January release ?? Anybody know anything. Hoping for optics improvement,ois. HTC is always pretty tight lipped.
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Wow that would be amazing where you hear rumor on that. Interested for a Read . I they scrapped the Prime but I see it coming back into play with the release.
Still Hoping for January.
There is the M8 Eye, which is the same as the M8 but with a 13mp camera.
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/1...ing-new-high-end-13-megapixel-rear-camera.htm
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5.5inch display is the rumor.
Looks like I'll be getting the mini, LOL.
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Lol that's a good one. .
andybones said:
5.5inch display is the rumor.
Looks like I'll be getting the mini, LOL.
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If its 5.5 sign me up now just pack it with a 2.5 quad core & 3 gigs of memory. Would be nice if they could get the 8 core processor. I will have to look up the m9 rumors but its really to early to have any seriousness to them.
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There is the M8 Eye, which is the same as the M8 but with a 13mp camera.
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/1...ing-new-high-end-13-megapixel-rear-camera.htm
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Yea Been seeing this coming big Question I have is about Optical Image Stablization thats my biggest gripe. I love everything else but hoping HTC is working on IOS
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There is the M8 Eye, which is the same as the M8 but with a 13mp camera.
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/1...ing-new-high-end-13-megapixel-rear-camera.htm
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Wow how many M8 are there going to be? Next will be the "M8 Ram." Exactly the same as the original M8 but with 3mb of ram instead of 2 which is why we call it the M8 Ram, lol!!! Love to waste money HTC does.
Yes I hear ya put the new camera on the M9
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Wow how many M8 are there going to be? Next will be the "M8 Ram." Exactly the same as the original M8 but with 3mb of ram instead of 2 which is why we call it the M8 Ram, lol!!! Love to waste money HTC does.
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Dam our original m8's should have come with 3 gigs of memory instead of 2. I could really use 3 over 2.
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Yes I hear ya put the new camera on the M9
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I dont know what everyone is complaining about the camera for, I have had 6 m's, 2 at&t and 4 verizon and for me they have all taken good pics I have no complaints about the m8 camera. I think many just complaim because its a low pixel number but thats because its an ultra pixel and not a mega pixel. I think most complain about it just because of a lower pixel number and not about the actual performance of the standard m8's camera.
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Dam our original m8's should have come with 3 gigs of memory instead of 2. I could really use 3 over 2.
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I dont know what everyone is complaining about the camera for, I have had 6 m's, 2 at&t and 4 verizon and for me they have all taken good pics I have no complaints about the m8 camera. I think many just complaim because its a low pixel number but thats because its an ultra pixel and not a mega pixel. I think most complain about it just because of a lower pixel number and not about the actual performance of the standard m8's camera.
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My biggest problem is no optical image stabilization fix that and I'm happy
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My biggest problem is no optical image stabilization fix that and I'm happy
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Never had any issue I just take about 4 or 5 pics of the same and pick the best one, that has always worked for me.
I find this thread VERY depressing as I still have almost 3 years of payments on my current M8. <sigh>
FWIW, I've had an old Blackberry that took much better pics than the M8 (or my Samsung Galaxies but the best camera phone I had was actually a camera with a phone stuck on, a Samsung FlipShot! It was a fairly decent phone and a GREAT little portable camera.
http://www.cnet.com/products/samsung-sch-u900/
Of course, these are totally obsolete 3G phones but they DID take great pics, proving again the megapixels have very little to do with picture quality.
Would u all like to see the flip camera return or go back to the regular front facing camera for the next Zenfone? I'm sure the next Zenfone will be announced in a few months I'm still happy with my 6 but not sure about the camera. According to rumors they got rid of the flip camera. I did love the flip camera for panorama shots and motion tracking I thought those were great ideas.
Do u want the flip camera to return for the Zenfone 7?
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sedp23 said:
Would u all like to see the flip camera return or go back to the regular front facing camera for the next Zenfone? I'm sure the next Zenfone will be announced in a few months I'm still happy with my 6 but not sure about the camera. According to rumors they got rid of the flip camera. I did love the flip camera for panorama shots and motion tracking I thought those were great ideas.
Do u want the flip camera to return for the Zenfone 7?
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No: I prefer a notch especially because I miss face unlock.
I love this phone exactly as it is. The camera design is fantastic and mechanically brilliant. Having a phone without a full screen seems insane to me. Either have less screen across the top for the cameras etc or the current configuration. Notches look silly/pointless.
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I love this phone exactly as it is. The camera design is fantastic and mechanically brilliant. Having a phone without a full screen seems insane to me. Either have less screen across the top for the cameras etc or the current configuration. Notches look silly/pointless.
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I agree
SlinkyMalinky said:
I love this phone exactly as it is. The camera design is fantastic and mechanically brilliant. Having a phone without a full screen seems insane to me. Either have less screen across the top for the cameras etc or the current configuration. Notches look silly/pointless.
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Silly?
LOL is someone working for Asus making these threads? Zenforum, XDA, Reddit. My understanding is the flip cam was expensive to make, makes the phone expensive to repair, and is the 6 is the worst selling Zenfone. If those facts are true, I highly doubt the next Zenfone will have a flip cam.
My preference would be full screen display, no selfie cam, no notch, non-flip main cam. But that's not going to happen with any manufacturer, I suppose...
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My preference would be full screen display, no selfie cam, no notch, non-flip main cam. But that's not going to happen with any manufacturer, I suppose...
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Manufacturers are working on under display cameras.
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My preference would be full screen display, no selfie cam, no notch, non-flip main cam. But that's not going to happen with any manufacturer, I suppose...
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Same for me. I virtually never use the face cam and the fact that it cannot be activated without me knowing about it is a huge benefit.
So yes, zenfone 7 with a flip cam would be great (but please use an OLED display).
I prefer it but I rarely use it.
Hell Yeah.. I love the flip screen instead of loading a phone with cameras, helps save some money as well getting a super selfie camera.... will be glad if asus added waterproof phones and a wireless charging as well instead of spending on too many cameras
Zenfone 6 is unconvincing in year 2020 - fringerprint in the back, low freq display, slow USB, slow UFS, behind in 2 generations of cpu. So it's a no from me but it caught my interest for vanilla OS, battery, SD, jack. Since Zenfone 7 will have a notch, literally destroying one of 2 highlights of the phone, i consider this model series dead to me.
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Zenfone 6 is unconvincing in year 2020 - fringerprint in the back, low freq display, slow USB, slow UFS, behind in 2 generations of cpu. So it's a no from me but it caught my interest for vanilla OS, battery, SD, jack. Since Zenfone 7 will have a notch, literally destroying one of 2 highlights of the phone, i consider this model series dead to me.
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Eh, I don't know about all of that. This device is pretty solid, and USB speeds for transferring aren't bad. Display gets the job, UFS 2.1 is nice to have instead of emmc, and the CPU is still great for the price.
Flip not Bad rarely use it but
<500$ price
Big Display ( Great LCD since OLED BUrn IN )
MIcro SD Express Card
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32 Bit Audio & Surround Sound
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SD865
kk454347 said:
I agree
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Do u want the flip camera to return for the Zenfone 7?
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Absolutely yes. I'm considering getting a successor to the Zenfone 6 whenever it comes, but I'll only do it if it still retains this mechanism.
1. This alleviates some privacy issues of always having a camera pointed at you, not knowing if it's recording or not.
2. Selfie quality obviously is a huge factor.
3. Pano shots
4. rear fingerprint unlock is anyway faster than face unlock, and more importantly more reliable
This is the USP.. why wouldn't I go with so many other options otherwise...
Please retain the flip front camera!
Other requests: Change the screen to AMOLED. Add a tele lens as well.
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This is what I'm hoping for the Zenfone 7 this or a small single punch hole selfie cam
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This is what I'm hoping for the Zenfone 7 this or a small single punch hole selfie cam
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I would not like either option. In fact, I am happy about having no camera facing me all the time...
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This is what I'm hoping for the Zenfone 7 this or a small single punch hole selfie cam
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Same.
The whole reason for the Zenfone 6 was the uniqueness of the flip camera. It's time to improve the camera, add a larger sensor, a better IPS display(many manufacturers are going back to IPS LCD these days, so it'd be great if they use a better quality IPS screen), and keep just 1 model with 2Gbps LTE, and 4 or 5Gbps 5G NR instead of model A, model B, model C.
Asus had a lot of production problems last year. I hope that's not the same this year too.
Zenfone 6 came in the news on 3rd April last year. It's already 5th April, and no news of the Zenfone 7. I hope they don't disappoint us by launching it with a notch, or a front facing selfie.
I don't understand why new phones have a lot of cameras and only one camera have a lot of mpx other have 8mpx or less, is it so hard to make 1 better camera than fill whole back of the phone? Also cameras stick out on new phones so is easier to break it. I think is better to make just one camera with e.g 48mpx than 3 more. Also in my opinion professional camera should be to making photos than normal smartphone.
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I don't understand why new phones have a lot of cameras and only one camera have a lot of mpx other have 8mpx or less, is it so hard to make 1 better camera than fill whole back of the phone? Also cameras stick out on new phones so is easier to break it. I think is better to make just one camera with e.g 48mpx and 3 more. Also in my opinion professional camera should be to making photos than normal smartphone.
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Welcome to XDA.
Multiple cams because there's inadequate space for a optical zoom lense.
It's just marketing thing. 3 cameras are "better" than one good main camera.
All these 8MP ultrawide cameras and 2MP macro cameras are pretty much trash.
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It's just marketing thing. 3 cameras are "better" than one good main camera.
All these 8MP ultrawide cameras and 2MP macro cameras are pretty much trash.
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My 12mp ultra wide does ok even with the fixed focus. When you can't pan back ultra wides are your only option.
My biggest complaint is that the cameras aren't well protected. A sapphire lens cover would be fairly scratch resistant, but would probably add a bit to the cost.
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My biggest complaint is that the cameras aren't well protected. A sapphire lens cover would be fairly scratch resistant, but would probably add a bit to the cost.
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A good case is all that's needed. I live in the desert (sand and grit everywhere) and this N10+ is 3.5 yo has zero scratches or mars on the factory cam protector.
Case it, keep your fingers off the cam protector and clean with a dry microfiber cloth occasionally. No fuss or bother.
They are generally cheap and easy to replace if damaged.
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My 12mp ultra wide does ok even with the fixed focus. When you can't pan back ultra wides are your only option.
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Your phone ultrawide is 16MP.. As i remember right that you still have Galaxy Note 10?
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Your phone ultrawide is 16MP.. As i remember right that you still have Galaxy Note 10?
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My bad, yeah 16mp. After the N10+ Samsung went nuts with the cams. The N20U ie the humpback. Then then the bs highest mp count race was on.
@masturbino69
With regards to thread's title: I think this article
Why Do Some Smartphones Use Multiple Cameras?
Lots of high-end smartphones have added multiple camera modules and lenses to the back of their designs. But why? The fact is that they do different things for different phones, so we’re here to break it all down for you.
www.howtogeek.com
explains it well