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hi friends. the topic says it all. but here is the catch.
i have to go on a trip. its my first time ever out of the country so i really need a great CAMERA PHONE.
i know 808 sweeps floor with Both S4 and S3 for its camera performance but i still need an idea from u guys, cause u guys are the best
i have owned S3 and its camera is great. but not a good low light performer. its THE GREATEST PHONE for sure. and S4 will not be available till end of this month.i really need to decide within like 2 days to go for any set.
are there any friends here who owned 808 and S3 together? cause i have never used 808 but every read only good about its camera.
pls suggest me. i will not go for 920 cause windows phone sucks! well, Symbian sucks ever worse but its camera is comparable to DSLRs so im asking just to confirm from u guys.
i expect good and sincere help cause i love xda
*EDIT* and one more question what can be the price of used 808 as i have no idea at all about its resale
thanks in advance for ur time and help
aami.aami said:
i have to go on a trip. its my first time ever out of the country so i really need a great CAMERA PHONE.
i know 808 sweeps floor with Both S4 and S3 for its camera performance but i still need an idea from u guys, cause u guys are the best
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Haven't you answered your own question???
Questions should go to the proper forum section, but we have camera discussions here too.
With that said, not to leave you without an answer, the PureView 808 is obviously the best camera phone on the market. The good news about the GS4 is however that it does awesome good light photos which at 13MPs are good for digital zooming or later cutting which is usually a problem with phones (no optical zoom). The bad news is that, despite improving tremendously, absolute dark shots are still problematic, and if half your shots are taken during nights or very limited lights, the Lumia 920 is the one to choose. If 80% of your shots are taken in low but not dark conditions, average lights and ideal scenery, the GS4 is an excellent all-around performer for a phone.
But you can judge the quality for yourself over this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2213853
price of a used around 320-350$ for now
aami.aami said:
pls suggest me. i will not go for 920 cause windows phone sucks! well, Symbian sucks ever worse but its camera is comparable to DSLRs so im asking just to confirm from u guys.
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No, its not comparable to a DSLR, but its much better then the S3/S4 and all the other phones. If you want a good low light phone, go for the 808/920 or htc one.
But if you want to shoot REALLY NICE pictures, you should get a dslr.
For example the Sony Alpha 57: currently avaible for 440€ in Germany. The supplied objective is ok but you can improve the quality with an alternative one.
All the phones avaible ARE NOT WORTH COMPARING WITH A GOOD DSLR!
None. If you are going on a trip, you should get a DSLR.
Symbian sucks ever worse but its camera is comparable to DSLRs
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I am sure you have never handled a DSLR. Don't spread FUD here.
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None. If you are going on a trip, you should get a DSLR.
I am sure you have never handled a DSLR. Don't spread FUD here.
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thanks to all of u guys for such quick and great responses!!
and dude i said "COMPARABLE" quality to DSLR
here, see for urself:
http://www.gsmarena.com/pureview_blind_test-review-773p2.php
and BTW, Olympus E-PL2 is a mid range DSLR! and 808 beat that!
and here,
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_808_pureview_low_light-review-775.php
it is said that, "The Nokia 808 PureView is on its march to becoming iconic, trashing the Olympus PEN E-PL2 Micro Four Thirds camera in our blind test and then matching the Canon 5D Mark III for resolution in the process."
so yeah... it does have Great sensor with great performance...
and i have chosen to go for it
aami.aami said:
thanks to all of u guys for such quick and great responses!!
and dude i said "COMPARABLE" quality to DSLR
here, see for urself:
http://www.gsmarena.com/pureview_blind_test-review-773p2.php
and BTW, Olympus E-PL2 is a mid range DSLR! and 808 beat that!
and here,
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_808_pureview_low_light-review-775.php
it is said that, "The Nokia 808 PureView is on its march to becoming iconic, trashing the Olympus PEN E-PL2 Micro Four Thirds camera in our blind test and then matching the Canon 5D Mark III for resolution in the process."
so yeah... it does have Great sensor with great performance...
and i have chosen to go for it
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Technically, Olympus E-PL2 is not a DSLR. It's a mirrorless interchangeable lens camera.
And "Micro Four Thirds" should have told you the size of the sensor. Compare this to a size of a typical APS-C sensor.
If I am looking to take photos, I would rather get a typical DSLR.
Matching 5D Mark III in photography? I would better ask the editor to get his eyes checked. 808 is neither good phone, not a good camera. It's much better than typical mobile camera, but can't be compared to a good DSLR. It even worse than a point n shoot like RX100.
I don't need photography lessons from blind test in GSMArena.
808 is comparable to my 5D mark III? Please. I'll advise you to stick with your current phone and get something like Canon 650D or 60D.
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aami.aami said:
pls suggest me. i will not go for 920 cause windows phone sucks! well, Symbian sucks ever worse but its camera is comparable to DSLRs so im asking just to confirm from u guys.
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If you just want the best camera but not the window phone based phone, why not try HTC One which owns the ultrapixal camera.But note that the best camera on smartphone is still the pureview camera on Nokia Lumia 920. And the windows phone system don't sucks like what you imagined.
Dannyada1988 said:
why not try HTC One which owns the ultrapixal camera..
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If 2 micron is ultrapilxel, what do you call a 5 micron? Elephant-pixel or dragon-pixel?
I wonder if you know that even a 6 year old phone like Nokia N95 had a bigger sensor and bigger pixel-size. In 2007 they had a phone with 1/2.5 inch sensor and 2.2 micron pixel pitch.
Don't remember anyone calling it ultrapixel!
hot_spare said:
If 2 micron is ultrapilxel, what do you call a 5 micron? Elephant-pixel or dragon-pixel?
I wonder if you know that even a 6 year old phone like Nokia N95 had a bigger sensor and bigger pixel-size. In 2007 they had a phone with 1/2.5 inch sensor and 2.2 micron pixel pitch.
Don't remember anyone calling it ultrapixel!
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ultrapixel is just a marketing term aka a name. is it so hard to understand that? HTC figured that it would be rather embarrasing to sell a flagship with only 4MP on board so they coined this term.
Its like apple coined the retina display term. theres nothing to do with retina there. its just a name.
And how big fat and heavy was that n95? 808 is best cameraphone out there but nokia coundnt sell it. people dont want fat phones anymore. not most people.
Seems like you don't want a dslr. If you want REALLY GOOD picture quality and that's all you care about you could still get a decent digital non-dlsr camera which is much smaller than a dslr. I mean you already got a decent phone anyways so why throw so much money on 808 that's got nothing but a camera? Better spend something like $350 on a decent camera with superb quality. That price range can already get you something much better than any smartphone camera's
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joslicx said:
ultrapixel is just a marketing term aka a name. is it so hard to understand that?
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Captain Obvious strikes back with vengeance.
i know it very clear 808 just cant compete with DSLRs but u should give the credit where it is due. 808 does compete with some of the low end DSLRs and i said LOW END!!
and 920 is only better than 808 in terms of steady videos cause of its OIS and thats it!
808 captures true colors and u can get the punchier colors while chossing vivid mode or increasing the contrast
i just wish, GOD just WWWIIIISSSSHHH that HTC had used some high quality and higher pixel count sensor in ONE! that would have been awesome!
ultra pixel of HTC ONE is like the 12MP sensor of N8 when it was introduced years ago! and then Nokia perfected that with 808. i was literally hoping a great phone from HTC this year at least, but alas... Ultrapixel should be evolved and it definitely would be, into something comparable to what Nokia did with 808!
now my current wish is Nokia choses to go Android and introduce Pureview Phase 3 phone with FHD screen and camera with double the performance of 808... (just a wish )
So I've been noticing a lot of Smartphones, especially the flagships have really great photos. One of my family members or maybe even me might get one of these flagships soon and it'll be nice to have that as our main camera device but another possibility is that we'll get a cheaper smartphone and a point and shoot in just around the same price as one flagship phone so...
With the cameras of current flagships such as G2/G3, S5, Note 3(excluding those types such as K Zoom, Lumia 1020), is it more cost efficient to just use that as both a phone and a camera or is it better to just buy a seperate point and shoot while getting a cheaper smartphone?
And given we'll be considering stuff like the Lumia 1020, K Zoom, would they completely make getting a point and shoot not viable altogether?
Criteria here is mostly the ability to control ISO, details, lowlight photos. This is more of a curiosity kind of question
WilhelmPrice said:
So I've been noticing a lot of Smartphones, especially the flagships have really great photos. One of my family members or maybe even me might get one of these flagships soon and it'll be nice to have that as our main camera device but another possibility is that we'll get a cheaper smartphone and a point and shoot in just around the same price as one flagship phone so...
With the cameras of current flagships such as G2/G3, S5, Note 3(excluding those types such as K Zoom, Lumia 1020), is it more cost efficient to just use that as both a phone and a camera or is it better to just buy a seperate point and shoot while getting a cheaper smartphone?
And given we'll be considering stuff like the Lumia 1020, K Zoom, would they completely make getting a point and shoot not viable altogether?
Criteria here is mostly the ability to control ISO, details, lowlight photos. This is more of a curiosity kind of question
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Honestly if you want to get a galaxy s5 you should grab a s4 instead there is very little difference in the phones and is still a great phone. the Galaxy k just looks just as good as a Galaxy Camera, the Galaxy camera NX is supposed to be a great point and shoot as in with what you want in Iso control, and other Settings. i think you should grab a S4 and one of the three Galaxy cameras or a Nikon Coolpix S800c/S810c (both run android). currently my S800c just arrived and photo shooting wise is Alright its defiantly not perfect but its a great camera, the videos it takes are AMAZING 10/10 MUCH WOW SUCH GREAT PHOTO. only bad parts some apps randomly close, it does not have the best android specs but it does the job. the Battery life is supposed to be terrible as well but i haven't noticed anything too bad, ordering another spare battery. mine the s800c runs gingerbread 2.3.3 but the s810c runs 4.2.2 and i wouldn't know the other differences since this one was a little cheaper, the s810c is supposed to be the same price which the first galaxy camera is so i would recommend the galaxy camera over the nikon any day. whatever you end up doing i hope you enjoy it!
Hi,
I would just like few opinions about the comparison of this 2 smartphone/phablets...
For the past 4 years I've been using only iphones... Now I want to move to android but not sure which one would be better.
I can see there is a lot of complains on Sony camera and problems with gaps etc...
Thanks
S54B32 said:
Hi,
I would just like few opinions about the comparison of this 2 smartphone/phablets...
For the past 4 years I've been using only iphones... Now I want to move to android but not sure which one would be better.
I can see there is a lot of complains on Sony camera and problems with gaps etc...
Thanks
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note 3 is better
S54B32 said:
Hi,
I would just like few opinions about the comparison of this 2 smartphone/phablets...
For the past 4 years I've been using only iphones... Now I want to move to android but not sure which one would be better.
I can see there is a lot of complains on Sony camera and problems with gaps etc...
Thanks
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if you use the camera go for Z2 for sure. if you think about note 3 DONT BUY EXYNOS VERSION.
ereneren564 said:
if you use the camera go for Z2 for sure. if you think about note 3 DONT BUY EXYNOS VERSION.
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I don't use so much the camera . When I use it it's usually at racing, rally and other stuff so I need the camera to be quick.
S54B32 said:
I don't use so much the camera . When I use it it's usually at racing, rally and other stuff so I need the camera to be quick.
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So maybe the new LG G3 might be interesting for you as it uses a laser to auto focus which should theoretically be quicker than the conventional auto focus.
If you ask Note 3 owners, whether you should buy Note 3 or Z2, you will be recommended to buy Note 3. Obviously because you ask people who love using Note 3 and thereby have it.
Same thing the other way around.
You are the one, who is buying a new phone, thereby you have to look at the pros and cons of both phones and make the decision
S54B32 said:
Hi,
I would just like few opinions about the comparison of this 2 smartphone/phablets...
For the past 4 years I've been using only iphones... Now I want to move to android but not sure which one would be better.
I can see there is a lot of complains on Sony camera and problems with gaps etc...
Thanks
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I have both devices.
To be frank, both got pros and cons. Both is actually have similar (I repeat similar) specs, but not the same.
Physical size, both almost the same, N3 win in slightly bigger size (in mm calculation).
Internal storage comes in 16gb for Z2, whereby N3 in 32gb (at least here in SG, this is the internal storage size).
RAM is the same 3 gigs (both are smooth).
Battery 3200 for Z2, and 3100 for N3. But so far usage (my personal usage), Z2 has a better power management (both I use without power saving mode).
Camera, no need to say. Rear camera Z2 has a bigger megapixels (20 vs 13) But Z2 loose on the front camera. So if you like to do selfie, it sucks
The sound to be frank Z2 is nicer in my opinion. A lot of my friends and relatives said sony xperia got a bad sound quality especially when plug in the earphone. But this Z2 is nice. I tested using the same earphone on my Z2 and N3, Z2 is much better.
Custom ROM, N3 (especially N9005) got more custom ROM compare to Z2 (maybe Z2 is still new device).
On the other side which Z2 will never win N3 (or note series) is the S-pen. If you like/need to use S-pen for your daily driver (like me), N3 is all the way win. To be frank, I need the S-pen (and all its features). That's why I also never use CM/AOSP base, even I know CM/AOSP is much faster compare to TW.
But when carrying Z2, I don't need to scare that my phone touch water on the rainy day. whereby N3, I need to be careful. So when I'm doin my outdoor activities/work, and I need to use to capture pictures, Z2 will be quite handy and useful at any conditions.
Z2 front and back are tempered glass. So have to be careful not to drop it, otherwise it will break. And better put the screen protector for both side (if you are quite careless in handling phone), to avoid scratches.
So in my opinion, both are good phones with its own pros and cons.
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from what i have seen so far.....i would suggest Z2 if S-pen isnt that big of an issue.....i hardly ever use my spen...except maybe to jot down some notes so i use AOSP roms as TW is laggy sometimes...i would even go on to say the Z2 is a better survivor than the note 3..... just saw the drop test for the Z2. NOT A SINGLE CRACK ON ANY OF ITS GLASS SURFACES!!!! so its tough.... tougher i dare say than the note 3 as its screen broke on the drop test.... as for sound... i know for a fact Z2 is better....screen...it comes down to preference....if you like mad colors note 3....if you want natural colors go for the IPS on Z2...battery rating seemed really good for the Z2 as well....all in all...if you dont use spen all that much...which does tend to happen to a lot of note users...then i would suggest go for the Z2
however....i would like to mention that modding Sony's flagships are much harder than from Samsung's ...... and unlocking bootloaders in Sony always leads to some function failing.... in the Z which i had....the Bravia engine wouldnt work & in the Z1..the camera didnt work...or something related to camera...not 100% sure yet ....Samsung on the other hand is much easier to mod in my opinion....although the introduction of KNOX has brought on some headaches
I will stick to Note 3, this is a phone from the past for the future, so will wait until Note 4. concerning Z2 not tempting at all against Note 3 not even LG G3, Note 3 still has the best developers support, has elegant look, has the fancy S pen ( might not use a lot but having it is a go, helped me a lot with notes and multitasking), has a decent camera with smart stabilization, I love it.
antique_sonic said:
I have both devices.
To be frank, both got pros and cons. Both is actually have similar (I repeat similar) specs, but not the same.
Physical size, both almost the same, N3 win in slightly bigger size (in mm calculation).
Internal storage comes in 16gb for Z2, whereby N3 in 32gb (at least here in SG, this is the internal storage size).
RAM is the same 3 gigs (both are smooth).
Battery 3200 for Z2, and 3100 for N3. But so far usage (my personal usage), Z2 has a better power management (both I use without power saving mode).
Camera, no need to say. Rear camera Z2 has a bigger megapixels (20 vs 13) But Z2 loose on the front camera. So if you like to do selfie, it sucks
The sound to be frank Z2 is nicer in my opinion. A lot of my friends and relatives said sony xperia got a bad sound quality especially when plug in the earphone. But this Z2 is nice. I tested using the same earphone on my Z2 and N3, Z2 is much better.
Custom ROM, N3 (especially N9005) got more custom ROM compare to Z2 (maybe Z2 is still new device).
On the other side which Z2 will never win N3 (or note series) is the S-pen. If you like/need to use S-pen for your daily driver (like me), N3 is all the way win. To be frank, I need the S-pen (and all its features). That's why I also never use CM/AOSP base, even I know CM/AOSP is much faster compare to TW.
But when carrying Z2, I don't need to scare that my phone touch water on the rainy day. whereby N3, I need to be careful. So when I'm doin my outdoor activities/work, and I need to use to capture pictures, Z2 will be quite handy and useful at any conditions.
Z2 front and back are tempered glass. So have to be careful not to drop it, otherwise it will break. And better put the screen protector for both side (if you are quite careless in handling phone), to avoid scratches.
So in my opinion, both are good phones with its own pros and cons.
M8 ? G3?
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Great explanation and i'd like to add also, there are not much accessories for Z2 yet for example otterbox, and the boring part of note 3 was there are no FM Radio. But overall both phone as you said have it's own pros and cons.
S54B32 said:
Hi,
I would just like few opinions about the comparison of this 2 smartphone/phablets...
For the past 4 years I've been using only iphones... Now I want to move to android but not sure which one would be better.
I can see there is a lot of complains on Sony camera and problems with gaps etc...
Thanks
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my experience on Z1 was bad, camera quality stated 21MP but Note 3 picture quality far better.
if you are looking for water and dust resistance go for S5.
Compare Samsung Galaxy Note 3 vs. Sony Xperia Z2
Hi,
I have a Galaxy Note 2 and I am satisfied with it. If I am going to change it, I would buy newer version of Galaxy Note.
Anyway, maybe the following link helps you to decide one.
smartphonedecision.com/compare/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-3-vs-Sony-Xperia-Z2
Bye.
mel2net said:
Hi,
I have a Galaxy Note 2 and I am satisfied with it. If I am going to change it, I would buy newer version of Galaxy Note.
Anyway, maybe the following link helps you to decide one.
smartphonedecision.com/compare/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-3-vs-Sony-Xperia-Z2
Bye.
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Well your first post, so nothing to say really but please try to notice when the actual topic was created. In this case it was almost seven months ago!
Mods should CLOSE this topic.
I had a Z2 - the battery life is 10x better, the camera is 100x better. The Z2 is slippery to hold unless its in a case, it attracts fingerprints like a mofo, and the flap for the charging port becomes annoying. Other than that, its a excellent phone imo. Just doesn't have a stylus like the N3
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I had a Z2 - the battery life is 10x better, the camera is 100x better. The Z2 is slippery to hold unless its in a case, it attracts fingerprints like a mofo, and the flap for the charging port becomes annoying. Other than that, its a excellent phone imo. Just doesn't have a stylus like the N3
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And the display? It should be awful in comparison with Note 3!
Display in z2 and note 3 is similar but in note black is definitely better. My friend has z2 so i have often comparasion
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Hi! I'm searching for a substitute of my S Advance.. I love photography and i miss my old Nokia N82... I've seen some Android phones and i don't know which of them has the best cam..can you suggest a rank of them??
Galaxy K Zoom
Sony Z2
Sony Z3
Vivo Xshot
Meizu MX4
If you unlist k zoom, then xshot should be the best. It has ois, biggest appeture, the only phone that have dedicated camera button.
If you still consider k zoom, then k zoom has advantage in zoom factor. Buy xshot still the best in front facing camera for selfie, even for wefie. And xsot also still has biggerappeture than k zoom. And not to mention xshot has very slim body
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Recently picked up the XShot (2GB Elite version) because I wanted a better camera for pictures of my children. I'm coming from an iPhone 5s and also have a OnePlus One and Note 4 (daily driver) so these are my comparison devices.
OPO camera is decent but not great. It's better in ColorOS but I still struggled with blurry shots and noise. I used to miss shots because it's 5.5 inches and really needs two hands to operate. Plus it's a bit slow to focus and shoot. Great price for spec, though.
I loved the 5s. Quick to snap a shot and because it was small, I'd generally miss fewer shots. I underestimated this aspect too much. Problem is the phone is small for other tasks (trading, movies, etc.) and the battery want great.
Next is the Note 4. Good camera with OIS but a bit slow to open and shoot. That and it being 5.7 inches means it's quite cumbersome to take out of the pocket quickly and, although shots were decent, I'd miss too many opportunities from fumbling around. The rest of the phone (media, browsing) is mostly excellent, though.
So in steps the XShot - my 'compromise' device. Which actually isn't much of a compromise I've found.
First the non-camera aspects: still as smooth in day-to-day tasks as the Note and OPO despite being about 10 to 15% lower in synthetic benchmarks. I guess I don't need the extra grunt for my usage. If you do, there's an 'Ultimate' 3GB / 32gb model with 801AC (slightly faster) to get OPO 47k Antutu scores. In my experience, unless you 3D game, the Elite model is more than enough. Software wise, is running 4.4.2 with a heavily customised ROM (Funtouch 2). Lollipop might be a while away yet but, the camera is my primary concern. Those wanting Lollipop should look elsewhere.
Screen size of 5.2 inches and ergonomics are excellent. I can comfortably one-hand this way easier than the OPO and Note but it's still large enough to be fine for media and reading. The curved back and smaller screen combination work really well. It tapers to very slim edges so feels much thinner than it might appear in pictures or on the spec sheet. Build quality is solid - not cheap feeling at all. Great audio is a bonus. I think 5.2 is as big as I'd go in future as it has the best all-round feel.
And then there's the camera. This is a big step up for so many situations. Dedicated 2-step sheet button. Way better aperture so it focuses and snaps instantly so I miss fewer shots and far more are in focus. Part of this is the size: I can grab it from my pocket quicker and, with the dedicated button, already have the camera app open by the time I've raised it to shoot (holding down the dedicated button opens the camera from a locked state). Plenty of options for advanced shooters, too.
So, despite thinking it a 'compromise' choice, I've found it anything but. Yes, it's 9 months old now and may be superseded in 3-4 months, but Vivo may just make the screen unnecessarily larger or change something else. Hopefully they'll keep similar dimensions and just make things even better.
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Hey there,
I am looking for a new phone, kinda fed up with my previous Galaxy Wonder which was bought considering budget limits, but now I'm on to buying a new phone, for myself and for my mother.
For me, performance is the most important thing, a phone that I can keep for a couple of years without headaches, and for my mother Camera is the most important thing- she wants quality pictures with sharp images. I guess a phone which has both would be the better choice. I have come to the conclusion that just looking at MP doesn't tell you how good the camera really is (my 5 MP Carl Zeiss Nokia was way better than my friends 8 MP Sony Ericsson at the time, or it seems iPhones take very sharp pictures). So what phones do you recommend we buy (Do you guys consider iPhones and Microsoft phones like Nokia as well?)
Thankyou
Samsung Galaxy Note 4, has an incredible camera, crystal clear photo's
Note4fan said:
Samsung Galaxy Note 4, has an incredible camera, crystal clear photo's
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Galaxy S5 is great too. 16MP stills and 1080p/30fps video. GSM Arena ranked it second and first for stills and video respectively. Also a good all around phone, if you don't care about using the stock Android UI!
Have a look at the Galaxy K Zoom. It's designed as a camera that you can also use as a phone, not the 'phone with a camera'.
Alternatively, the Note 4 has a good sensor, too. And it is the most powerful phone available on the market. You can keep using that without any headaches for at least 3-4 years as high-end, and mid-end for another 2-4 after that.
The most important thing to look at for camera quality is the sensor size. The bigger the sensor, the better the photographs.
The best camera phone are the Nokia Lumia, if you want Microsoft OS, or the Xperia z3 if you want android; the latest has pretty performance and battery life, but I'm sorry I don't know nothing about Nokia because I don't like the OS let me know what will you buy :thumbup:
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Note 4 is HUGE, i don't call those things phones tbh! and it is very expensive.
What about Xperia Z3 and Galaxy S5? Any opinions on those?
ShadowLea said:
Galaxy K Zoom. It's designed as a camera that you can also use as a phone, not the 'phone with a camera'.
The most important thing to look at for camera quality is the sensor size. The bigger the sensor, the better the photographs.
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Great advise! How can I find the sensor size for a phone? Cuz I didn't see such a thing on GSM Arena Phone Specs.
K Zoom seems a fine phone, but low CPU and lots of complaints about dust getting into the phone and other issues by its users.
flywheels said:
Galaxy S5 is great too. 16MP stills and 1080p/30fps video. GSM Arena ranked it second and first for stills and video respectively. Also a good all around phone, if you don't care about using the stock Android UI!
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Well we don't mind the current UI we have now, is there anything that annoying about S5's UI that I should worry about?
goldendye said:
Great advise! How can I find the sensor size for a phone? Cuz I didn't see such a thing on GSM Arena Phone Specs.
K Zoom seems a fine phone, but low CPU and lots of complaints about dust getting into the phone and other issues by its users.
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Right, I'd forgotten that the K Zoom only comes in the Exynos variant. Sorry about that.
Sometimes GSMArena does list the sensor size, It's under Camera > Features if they do. (For instance on the HTC M8 (1/3'' sensor size).) In some cases they list the sensor size in the review of the phone.
Sadly, it mostly comes down to Googling " [phone name] Sensor size".
The one in the Note 4 and S5 are 1/2.6”. The Note 4 also has Optical Image Stabilisation, which adds a clear advantage in terms of image quality.
HTC M8 and iPhone 5S are 1/3".
With sensors under 1", the lower the number behind the /, the better. (So 2.6 is better than 3). Admittedly sensor size isn't everything, but it's the deciding factor when it comes to sharpness, particularly in less than full-light conditions.
I have an explanation on sensor importance *somewhere*, let me dig around for it.. Edit: Ah, here it is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50953511&postcount=6
I remember one Lumia had a very good camera
honestly i always think iphone cam is not bad. but if if its android htc definitely have a decent cam
best detailing in note 4
best color reproduction and dynamic range in iphone 6
http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/best-camera-smartphone-comparisons-t2901826
ShadowLea said:
Sadly, it mostly comes down to Googling " [phone name] Sensor size".
The one in the Note 4 and S5 are 1/2.6”. The Note 4 also has Optical Image Stabilisation, which adds a clear advantage in terms of image quality.
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Aha, so according to his:
Z3: 1/2.3 and , 5248 х 3936 pixels, 20.7 MP
s5: 1/2.6 and, 5312 x 2988 pixels, 16 MP
K Zoom (as the ideal camera): 1/2.3, 5248 х 3936 pixels, 20.7 MP
Clearly, Z3 is the best of three. Its camera is better than S5, and the same as K Zoom. it is smaller in size, less weight (16 grams), 0.7 inch smaller Screen (which is actually a positive feature for me), better Androind version, also will upgrade to 5.0, has radio, fast charging, none of the nonsense apps of Samsung which i really hate, better performance rate
But S5 has a one third better screen quality, Corning Gorilla Glass (I'm not sure if this is better than IPS), microUSB 3.0 (I don't think that's really important), dual video recording (maybe an app can compensate for this), better battery, and it seems it is much more efficient (21 hrs talk time compared to 12 on z3!!), better contrast ratio (i dont care)
Same chipset, same CPU, same GPU, but the endurance rate on z3 is 101h compared to 72h on S5, I don't know what that is.
I think I have chosen my phone , except the battery worries me.
goldendye said:
Aha, so according to his:
Z3: 1/2.3 and , 5248 х 3936 pixels, 20.7 MP
s5: 1/2.6 and, 5312 x 2988 pixels, 16 MP
K Zoom (as the ideal camera): 1/2.3, 5248 х 3936 pixels, 20.7 MP
Clearly, Z3 is the best of three. Its camera is better than S5, and the same as K Zoom. it is smaller in size, less weight (16 grams), 0.7 inch smaller Screen (which is actually a positive feature for me), better Androind version, also will upgrade to 5.0, has radio, fast charging, none of the nonsense apps of Samsung which i really hate, better performance rate
But S5 has a one third better screen quality, Corning Gorilla Glass (I'm not sure if this is better than IPS), microUSB 3.0 (I don't think that's really important), dual video recording (maybe an app can compensate for this), better battery, and it seems it is much more efficient (21 hrs talk time compared to 12 on z3!!), better contrast ratio (i dont care)
Same chipset, same CPU, same GPU, but the endurance rate on z3 is 101h compared to 72h on S5, I don't know what that is.
I think I have chosen my phone , except the battery worries me.
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Are you looking at the Z3 or the Z3 Compact? From the specs i'd say the Compact, correct?
The reason the S5 has a better batterylife is because of the AMOLED screen. AMOLED has the advantage that black pixels are off as opposed to dark grey, meaning they don't drain power. (AMOLED is also more colour intensive and crisper.)
Contrast ratio is simply because of the darkest grey vs turned off pixels. AMOLED is the only type of screen capable of true black. Oh and it has a higher readability in direct sunlight.
IPS is a type of display, not a type of glass. Corning Gorrila Glass (3) is very tough, but I don't know what's on the Z3 or how it holds out in tests. You can always look up droptests on Youtube.
MicroUSB3 isn't important, as the MTP protocol slows down transfer speed right down to the USB2 values anyway. Samsung dropped USB3 on newer devices.
The S5 doesn't have a radio, no. That bothers a great many of us, myself included.
The Snapdragon 801 is the part that has the fast charging. All S801 devices have it.
Touchwiz is a waste of time and space, on that I fully agree. (They laughed at me when I told them so, though.) Fortunately they've changed the principle a bit so that it doesn't come with 100 bloatware anymore, but there's still some of it installed. Mainly, Touchwiz. (ugh!)
The S5 has KNOX, which you can't not trip whilst flashing custom roms. It voids your warranty.
In terms of security the S5 has a fingerprint scanner.
There's one other thing to the S5 I should mention, and that's the disgustingly ugly UI colour scheme. Which you can't change.
the tl:dr version:
- The S5 screen is AMOLED, which turns black pixels off. That doubles the battery life.
- IPS is a type of LCD display, (The S5 has AMOLED) Gorrilla Glass is a type of treated scratch resistent glass.
- All Snapdragon 801 devices have Fast Charging.
- USB3 is a waste, MTP doesn't allow USB3 speed.
- The Z3 has a radio.
- S5 has KNOX.(negative thing.)
Simply put the S5 has a better, brighter and crisper screen with better battery life; the Z3 is more compact, has a better camera and an FM radio.
You can also read these two and compare the photo's for a decent camera comparison.
Z3 Compact: http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z3_compact-review-1135p8.php
S5: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s5-review-1064p9.php
Is the fact that Z3 Compact has non-removable battery a fact to worry about?
Obviously, Lumia has better camera. But if you want it with better performance and battery life. Z3 would be a better choice.
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Obviously, Lumia has better camera. But if you want it with better performance and battery life. Z3 would be a better choice.
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I don't think it does, because it's a 10 MP camera with 1/3.4" sensor size. Although yes, it is Carl Zeiss.
goldendye said:
Hey there,
I am looking for a new phone, kinda fed up with my previous Galaxy Wonder which was bought considering budget limits, but now I'm on to buying a new phone, for myself and for my mother.
For me, performance is the most important thing, a phone that I can keep for a couple of years without headaches, and for my mother Camera is the most important thing- she wants quality pictures with sharp images. I guess a phone which has both would be the better choice. I have come to the conclusion that just looking at MP doesn't tell you how good the camera really is (my 5 MP Carl Zeiss Nokia was way better than my friends 8 MP Sony Ericsson at the time, or it seems iPhones take very sharp pictures). So what phones do you recommend we buy (Do you guys consider iPhones and Microsoft phones like Nokia as well?)
Thankyou
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CAMERA
A $100-200 dedicated camera takes much better pictures than any smartphone ever could (especially with 10x+ optical zoom). Your mum would be better off with such a camera in addition to a smartphone. At any rate, all flagships have "good enough" cameras with not a lot to choose between them. Mid-range and budget models often sacrifice the camera to meet their price points (one reason buying used high-end flagships is an option to consider).
OS
For some people iPhones/WindowsPhones/Blackberry/etc are taken into consideration particularly for the convenience of having the manufacturer control everything so you don't have to. For others, the somewhat open [source] nature of Android is paramount - it permits options that the other platforms actively prevent e.g. custom roms, privacy controls, customizations.
PERFORMANCE
You say performance is the most important thing. What level of performance?. I'll bet that a Samsung Galaxy S2 (yes S2...not S3, S4 or S5) is plenty fast enough for most people today and the Moto G is faster than that. So, is a Moto G performant enough for you? Or is it more like Nexus 5? Perhaps you need Note 4's level of performance? What activities requires the most performance on your phone currently and for the next couple of years?
Personally, I rate water/dust resistance highly (Xperia Acro S, Xperia Z/Z1/Z2/Z3/M2 Aqua, Galaxy S5, HTC Butterfly2). A 720p screen should be minimum now that the 1st gen Moto G exists. I prefer both a microsd slot and a removable battery. I would certainly want both if paying for a high-end device.
The Xperia Z3/Z3C, HTC Butterfly2, Samsung S5, Nexus 5/6 are all contenders if flagship devices are what you want. If you want to pay less, the Moto G and used flagships (Galaxy S3/S3/Note3, Xperia Z1/Z2, Nexus 5) are good options.