http://phandroid.com/2013/05/16/att-blocking-google-hangouts/
How do you guys even bother with such a crappy cell phone provider? Blocking boot-loaders, and blocking google hangout now? What the hell?
I am with Telus in Canada and they allow eveything.
well, they dont really have a choice, we might have unlocked bootloader and our carriers dont block much but they do own our ass a full year longer than in the US
GTalkEnabler , it's in the market and it allows gtalk and hangout video chating over 3g/4g
retested it with the new Hangouts
also I thought that was Google's doing, didn't know carriers can control such features within someone else's app o.o
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Nope, it was AT&T's doing. Just like they did with the Iphone's facetime. If they can do it to Apple, they can definitely do it to Google...
It is true, Canadian providers strangle us for 3 years instead of 2
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also I thought that was Google's doing, didn't know carriers can control such features within someone else's app o.o
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it is, but by ATTs request. Just like they requested wallet not to be accessible for ATT users, just like they asked samsung to block the dropbox promo, they ask and others do
Sh$$ att is getting worse and worse. I think I am going to sell my phones.
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it is, but by ATTs request. Just like they requested wallet not to be accessible for ATT users, just like they asked samsung to block the dropbox promo, they ask and others do
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I still don't know why Google complies with these "requests", they should just tell the carriers to pack sand and release the apps (or features) anyways.
I literally just did a hangout on the way home yesterday over mobile data. Is this an updated version of Google+? Maybe I won't update.
Nevermind- just followed the links and saw that this is the *new* hangout app which is going to replace Talk apparently. What I'm not clear about is whether this replaces the Talk apk or the Google+ current apk?
Did some more reading. So this is in fact a Talk replacement. From the Play Store:
First, title is Hangouts (replaced Talk)
and then
NOTE: If you aren't yet able to install Hangouts on your phone or tablet, or the Play Store "Open" button takes you to the old Talk app, hang tight, we are rolling out Hangouts to everyone over the course of several days. Rest assured Hangouts will be available soon for all Android 2.3+ devices, tablets included!
So they will push this out to all. Not really a big deal since you couldn't video with talk right now anyway. But from an integration perspective it sucks. I'm wondering why AT&T would block this and still allow the google+ app to do hangouts over their network. They must assume that many more would use this over the Google+ app.
It also notes that there will be no "invisible" mode. Kinda stupid to take that away. I use it all the time. I hope they don't force the updates.
Direct link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.talk
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I still don't know why Google complies with these "requests", they should just tell the carriers to pack sand and release the apps (or features) anyways.
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ATT is the client here...i dont agree with their policies but it is in their full right to make those demands. Imagine if you have kids, and you dont want your kids to go on X and Y sites, well you can ask the provider to block those websites. The kids might not agree with their parents but the fact is, it is their rights. And before the trolls come in and start saying that this and that doesnt hold up in my story, please, shhhhush, it's an analogy of principale and not a fact.
Does anyone know how to force the Hangouts update? I still have Talk and I can't figure out how to update to Hangouts. I can't from play via browser or the play app.
I found a APK online and when I try to install, it says "did not update" or something. I checked "install from other sources", but it didn't help.
anyone have any idea how to force the update without root.
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ATT is the client here...i dont agree with their policies but it is in their full right to make those demands. Imagine if you have kids, and you dont want your kids to go on X and Y sites, well you can ask the provider to block those websites. The kids might not agree with their parents but the fact is, it is their rights. And before the trolls come in and start saying that this and that doesnt hold up in my story, please, shhhhush, it's an analogy of principale and not a fact.
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I could see that argument maybe if you are talking about subsidized phones which (again arguably) are leased from the carrier, but the same restrictions apply if you have bought your phone outright.
In this instance (or in the case of Wallet) Google is a 3rd party software developer, to try for a similar analogy it's if my kids teacher told the grocery store not to sell me certain foods because they don't want my kid eating them.
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Does anyone know how to force the Hangouts update? I still have Talk and I can't figure out how to update to Hangouts. I can't from play via browser or the play app.
I found a APK online and when I try to install, it says "did not update" or something. I checked "install from other sources", but it didn't help.
anyone have any idea how to force the update without root.
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If you are rooted just downnload Titanium Backup and Uninstall the Talk App, then download Hangouts from Play Store, that's what I did last night, if you are not rooted then I still don't know how to do it.
erasat said:
If you are rooted just downnload Titanium Backup and Uninstall the Talk App, then download Hangouts from Play Store, that's what I did last night, if you are not rooted then I still don't know how to do it.
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I tried exactly that, even rebooted after uninstalling Talk but before installing hangouts but I was still not able to start a video chat over cellular.
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I could see that argument maybe if you are talking about subsidized phones which (again arguably) are leased from the carrier, but the same restrictions apply if you have bought your phone outright.
In this instance (or in the case of Wallet) Google is a 3rd party software developer, to try for a similar analogy it's if my kids teacher told the grocery store not to sell me certain foods because they don't want my kid eating them.
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yes, but an outright phone is still "renting" service from ATT regardless. Its like when you buy or rent a modem from an internet company, or a car, or anything else for that matter, if the provider said no, then you wont get your candy. in any case, we have already determined that ATT are aholes, they block so much good stuff for their clients, i'm speaking about tethering, facetime and other, i dont know why US carriers are like that but here in canada, we dont have all those restrictions, and we are just north of you, we technically can share line and service...
Brava27 said:
http://phandroid.com/2013/05/16/att-blocking-google-hangouts/
How do you guys even bother with such a crappy cell phone provider? Blocking boot-loaders, and blocking google hangout now? What the hell?
I am with Telus in Canada and they allow eveything.
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Couldn't we just follow the instructions from said site and that would enable us access?
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Does anyone know how to force the Hangouts update? I still have Talk and I can't figure out how to update to Hangouts. I can't from play via browser or the play app.
I found a APK online and when I try to install, it says "did not update" or something. I checked "install from other sources", but it didn't help.
anyone have any idea how to force the update without root.
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You can force the update by installing through the Play Store on a browser instead of the Play Store app.
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You can force the update by installing through the Play Store on a browser instead of the Play Store app.
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Can you explain how to do this? on the browser, it says its already installed
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Can you explain how to do this? on the browser, it says its already installed
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From your Web browser one you select install it will list all your devices even if it says you have it installed it should still work... Just make sure you do it from the desktop version the mobile one won't work I believe.
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From your Web browser one you select install it will list all your devices even if it says you have it installed it should still work... Just make sure you do it from the desktop version the mobile one won't work I believe.
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I appreciate the help. It looks like I can update the Nexus, but not the S4...
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Did anyone notice the apps Shazam and Where are gone from Market downloads? Those are the best free apps out there and it is completely gone. I feel so lost now.
RootNBoot said:
Did anyone notice the apps Shazam and Where are gone from Market downloads? Those are the best free apps out there and it is completely gone. I feel so lost now.
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Just search google for the apk and sideload it...
Edit, Shazam is back not sure whats going on with Where.
Edit2, Where? must not be available on Rogers either. I use Poynt. It's just as useful to me.
WHERE isn't available from an AT&T connection, as they have their own WHERE on their Android phones.
How it's filtered I don't know.
thanks guys. I have t-mobile but Shazam and Where is still missing from Market. It must be a carrier thing but I thought we all share the same android Market. I even tried a search for Poynt and that wasn't in Market either. I do have the apk for Shazam and I tried to install it but It failed (the same install worked last time). So I think these two great apps are gone for good from T-mobile.
I can find Shazam here in the UK.
try sound hound. blows shazaam out the water
I just checked my market (Motorola Droid running CM v6.0.0) and both Where and Shazam both show up. So it must be a carrier thing, not an Android Market thing.
Such a shame but thanks for recommending Sound Hound. It works great. One down and one to go.
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Such a shame but thanks for recommending Sound Hound. It works great. One down and one to go.
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I'm pretty sure you can get poynt from the website (but it just may email you a link to the market I'm not sure).
http://poynt.com/android.html
yes, it's just a link to the market and it's not available off the market. But thanks anyways.
Have you tried the market enabler? I was told something about changing regions but I've never installed it. Might be worth a try if you have a free minute.
nope no different. anyone know of an app that will replace "Where"?
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Every phone "shares the same Market" as you said, but we're not allowed to walk down the same aisles. Developers can filter their app to not be visible by certain carriers or in certain countries, so you may not see it on T-Mobile but somebody on Verizon might.
As for Where, there are a million of those location awareness apps that can replace it. They may not be as good or to your preference, but Poynt, Yelp, Geodelic, etc. might do the core features.
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nope no different. anyone know of an app that will replace "Where"?
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IMO, Google Places and GasBuddy replaces WHERE. If you really want the food etc type stuff, add Yelp too.
Or download the WHERE apk I suppose. It's around.
I have a nexus one running cm6 on T-Mobile USA and both of the apps show up on the market just did a quick search to make sure
The PayPal Mobile app disappeared for me from Verizon's market after I upgraded my Droid X to 2.2. Apparently it's still visible to 2.1 users, presumably since Verizon has been so slow about officially pushing out Froyo. I finally tracked down the APK and all is well.
The geographic/version limitations of the market are silly in the 'big picture' but I guess they make sense from a business standpoint for the carriers and everyone else getting a piece of the pie
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I have a nexus one running cm6 on T-Mobile USA and both of the apps show up on the market just did a quick search to make sure
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I have the same specs as well but it still isn't visible in market. So I guess it's area specific? I'll give those other apps a try. Thanks guys. It's just more convenient when you have just one app that can complete multiple functions instead of having two or three apps.
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The PayPal Mobile app disappeared for me from Verizon's market after I upgraded my Droid X to 2.2. Apparently it's still visible to 2.1 users, presumably since Verizon has been so slow about officially pushing out Froyo. I finally tracked down the APK and all is well.
The geographic/version limitations of the market are silly in the 'big picture' but I guess they make sense from a business standpoint for the carriers and everyone else getting a piece of the pie
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Where did you find the PayPal apk? I've been trying to find it and get it from PayPal for quite some time now...
EDIT: Never mind. I was able to find the apk from Android Freeware.
They replaced Shazam for Shazam Encore now, so now its no longer unlimited tagging its replaced to 5 tags a month now. You have to buy it to get ad free and also get it unlimited tags
Guys just a heads up I seem not to be able to find the app in the market with my TB, but on my Evo I can! Is Verizon starting to block certain apps now?
morrichad said:
Guys just a heads up I seem not to be able to find the app in the market with my TB, but on my Evo I can! Is Verizon starting to block certain apps now?
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Interesting seems barnacle is still up so just use that instead.
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Same here... I have it DL'd and have a titanium backup copy still so I'm good. I checked AppPlanet and it's in there still so you can grab it from there if you want it.
Its not available on the market anymore because Verizon is attempting to stop free wireless tethering. Check this link for a quick blog about it. Apparently AT&T has started warning its customers to stop tethering if not paying for it. Now it looks like Verizon is starting to follow along with AT&T.
Exactly the reason I also have a copy of the apk on my SD card.
the answer is yes, verizon blocks certain apps like tether apps and hotspot. ATT does the same thing. long live AOSP phones!!
google 'wireless tether for root' and you will find links to download it, straight from the developer(s)
I've noticed some other apps are missing as well. Notably I can't seem to find "Gensoid" the Sega Genesis emulator. Other Genesis emulators, and other *soid apps (i.e. nesoid) are present, but Gensoid (which I bought for my gTab) isn't present. I assume I can pull Gensoid from my gTab, but it's odd that it's missing and it's frustrating.
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I've noticed some other apps are missing as well. Notably I can't seem to find "Gensoid" the Sega Genesis emulator. Other Genesis emulators, and other *soid apps (i.e. nesoid) are present, but Gensoid (which I bought for my gTab) isn't present. I assume I can pull Gensoid from my gTab, but it's odd that it's missing and it's frustrating.
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Then its possible that was a malicious app as Google itself will take down apps they find malicious. No reason for Verizon to take it down.
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So, if Verizon can block you from downloading certain applications, can they see what applications you've already installed? I thought that information was between the End-User and Google, and not Verizon. Also, can they remote-wipe the application? If Google can remote-wipe, is there a way to disable that functionality if you're a rooted user? It kind of pisses me off that Verizon can have say over what I download from the Android Market.
On an otherwise off-topic note, what other App Stores are there (Amazon I know of) and are they safe/trustworthy to use?
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otherwise off-topic note, what other App Stores are there (Amazon I know of) and are they safe/trustworthy to use?
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AppBrain.com is a trustworthy site. Download here.
any1 wana post the apk??? the one from google projects doesnt look as clean as the one from the market.... http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list or maybe tell me what version it is???
ok well i downloaded a few and installed em and it looks like the market version was wireless_tether_2_0_7.apk
Andrew C said:
Apparently AT&T has started warning its customers to stop tethering if not paying for it. Now it looks like Verizon is starting to follow along with AT&T.
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AT&T contacted me via SMS to let me know they were watching. I was utilizing TetherMe via Cydia. Was I being a data hog? No. I was using 3GB to 5GB of bandwidth on my unlimited plan. What was my usage prior to tethering. Still in that ball park.
When I called in to inquire (I played dumb), they explained that they knew I was tethering. The man on the other line was patient despite me asking stupid questions to try and throw him off. But I firmly believe that they are only after users on the Unlimited plan who are tethering.
They sent this SMS to me last week. In less than 4 days I switched carriers. Each time I called to get my number ported, the AT&T rep acting frantically wanted to know why. I was a 15yr customer. I just grinned to the Verizon rep.
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AT&T contacted me via SMS to let me know they were watching. I was utilizing TetherMe via Cydia. Was I being a data hog? No. I was using 3GB to 5GB of bandwidth on my unlimited plan. What was my usage prior to tethering. Still in that ball park.
When I called in to inquire (I played dumb), they explained that they knew I was tethering. The man on the other line was patient despite me asking stupid questions to try and throw him off. But I firmly believe that they are only after users on the Unlimited plan who are tethering.
They sent this SMS to me last week. In less than 4 days I switched carriers. Each time I called to get my number ported, the AT&T rep acting frantically wanted to know why. I was a 15yr customer. I just grinned to the Verizon rep.
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i hate at&t with a passion. nice switch.
G Tunes is down also
I switched too. Verizon is much better. Especially with the the grandfathers 4g.
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I switched last september, for a droid 2, but I knew AT&T were gonna be stingy with their "4g", so i made the early change, then got a friend to hook me up with an early upgrade to the tbolt, no looking back!
How on earth can they know that a user is tethering? The traffic sent to and from the data gateway should appear the same, shouldn't it?
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How on earth can they know that a user is tethering? The traffic sent to and from the data gateway should appear the same, shouldn't it?
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Theories have ranged from reading the headers to monitoring TTL.
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How on earth can they know that a user is tethering? The traffic sent to and from the data gateway should appear the same, shouldn't it?
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If it wasn't already obvious based on the type of traffic you are sending/receiving (craploads of torrents, p2p, etc), they could potentially verify source based on data packets sent/received.
Browsers generally send data that shows what they're running on as well through the user agent, though you can always change that.
Feel free to run a tcpdump on your phone with wireshark or something similar and just look around at what gets sent for yourself.
I don't know much about Nfc stuff but think I want to setup Google wallet. Is there a apk file we can run or a zip to flash to get Google wallet? Or is it even a app like I side I don't know a lot about it.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1769083
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I don't know much about Nfc stuff but think I want to setup Google wallet. Is there a apk file we can run or a zip to flash to get Google wallet? Or is it even a app like I side I don't know a lot about it.
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No APK that I know of. It's actually a really easy fix though. I was a little uneasy doing it but once I went through the process it was easy.
I did the wallet fix yesterday and I had lunch at McDonalds thanks to Google. Read the post and follow the directions as described. Good luck!
Awesome... Thanks guys
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I don't know much about Nfc stuff but think I want to setup Google wallet. Is there a apk file we can run or a zip to flash to get Google wallet? Or is it even a app like I side I don't know a lot about it.
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Google wallet is available in the play store now, Verizon unblocked it...
XRSTOY1 said:
Google wallet is available in the play store now, Verizon unblocked it...
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I don't see it with my S3.
XRSTOY1 said:
Google wallet is available in the play store now, Verizon unblocked it...
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yeah definitely not seeing that and don't remember hearing verizon unblocking or unlocking anything lol
Wallet problem
Greetings everyone!
A little background first. Verizon SGS3, rooted and unlocked, but still on stock TW.
I completed the steps in the above mentioned thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1769083, and everything seems to be working ok. I have made a few purchases and it works, however I am thinking something is wrong.
Let me explain. When I go to make a purchase, it will make the POS machine flash/beep, etc., but then shows on my screen that the trans. may not be good/complete. The cashier continues the sale like normal, the receipt prints and all is good, but it just takes a min standing in line to make sure that all is well. Then after a while, the trans will show up in Wallet (on the phone) in the list.
Is this normal for you all?
Second thing is that I can't see my Google PrePay card in the online Wallet page. I can see the other cards that I have added in both places, phone and online, but I can't manage the new card that was given when I signed up. Therefore, I am stuck adding funds on the phone.
Should I do a reset? Will this lose the $ that I have added to the PrePay card, or will it magically pick it back up when I re-setup Wallet on the phone? I have read that I need to write down the card number (user ID) in case you need it, and I assume that this is one of those times.
Any ideas?
TIA for the help.
I'm not seeing it either unfortunately. I was just getting ready to try the workaround & then saw your post. Oh well, guess I'll still try the workaround.
Is it possibly just a regional thing? I read somewhere that they were getting ready to roll out ISIS in a couple of markets soon - is it possible that they unblocked Wallet in those markets to avoid the 'how do you justify blocking wallet as a security concern if you're now allowing ISIS' question?
Dunno.
whitfield77 said:
I'm not seeing it either unfortunately. I was just getting ready to try the workaround & then saw your post. Oh well, guess I'll still try the workaround.
Is it possibly just a regional thing? I read somewhere that they were getting ready to roll out ISIS in a couple of markets soon - is it possible that they unblocked Wallet in those markets to avoid the 'how do you justify blocking wallet as a security concern if you're now allowing ISIS' question?
Dunno.
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There is a post in the general area about it thats where I heard it from but here is the link. When I go to the link it knows I have it installed properly it may take a bit before our S3's see it...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.walletnfcrel
it does say it's not available on my carrier for everything but my S3 thats where it's installed the XDA way. but thats funny because my tablet is WI-Fi only so it should be able to install it to my tab...Check the general section...
So Verizon actually responded to an fcc complaint. This is their stupid reason for blocking Google wallet. Strangely no mention if their home grown "Isis" voids this "security" thing.
androidheadlines.com/2012/12/verizon-tells-us-why-they-block-google-wallet-due-to-secure-element-requirement.html
Did you read their letter? They aren't blocking it. Google Wallet does not work with their secure element. Google can update Wallet to work with their phones anytime they want to.
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Did you read their letter? They aren't blocking it. Google Wallet does not work with their secure element. Google can update Wallet to work with their phones anytime they want to.
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Google Wallet already works on their phones. I have it running on my Galaxy S3, and I'm sure a bit of searching will show that it runs perfectly fine on other phones, as well. I installed it directly from Google Play after editing a few tags to make Google Play think that I had a different phone, so they are, indeed, blocking Google Wallet.
Yes, they were responding to my complaint.
I believe Verizon IS blocking it, because Wallet runs on the Sprint GS3, and also, members here have gotten it to run on the Verizon GS3 by simply changing a few things on their phone.
Funny how Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mobile are backing ISIS, and Google Wallet doesn't work on those companies GS3, but Sprint is NOT backing ISIS and Google Wallet works on their GS3... HMMMM..... what does that tell you?
b4silver said:
So Verizon actually responded to an fcc complaint. This is their stupid reason for blocking Google wallet. Strangely no mention if their home grown "Isis" voids this "security" thing.
androidheadlines.com/2012/12/verizon-tells-us-why-they-block-google-wallet-due-to-secure-element-requirement.html
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Verizon isn't the only carrier using ISIS, it is not a homegrown service.
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chamberc said:
Did you read their letter? They aren't blocking it. Google Wallet does not work with their secure element. Google can update Wallet to work with their phones anytime they want to.
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Isis should void this "secure element" to then since it requires special hardware and such.
redhooka said:
Verizon isn't the only carrier using ISIS, it is not a homegrown service.
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Verizon, ATT, and T-Mobile are all backing it. Correct. But they are making their own wallet service. Therefore it is home grown. By all three of them.
vzw knows they are right and not afraid to show it!
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its verizon against the world!
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vzw knows they are right and not afraid to show it!
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its verizon against the world!
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I don't see how Verizon is right in all this...
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Google Wallet already works on their phones. I have it running on my Galaxy S3, and I'm sure a bit of searching will show that it runs perfectly fine on other phones, as well. I installed it directly from Google Play after editing a few tags to make Google Play think that I had a different phone, so they are, indeed, blocking Google Wallet.
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Exactly. The problem isn't actually running the app. Google Wallet runs fine on our phones once it's installed, the issue is that it isn't available in the PlayStore for us to download without us changing a file to fool the store into thinking we are on another phone...which allows us to proceed with the download.
Verizon is saying it won't run on the phone as it is and that's wrong...it's running fine.
The only issue is that Verizon is blocking the download.
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I don't see how Verizon is right in all this...
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Really? They think they own our equipment, when they don't.we just use their service
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You believe they're blocking it, despite them directly saying they're not? I guess you're in the we never went to the moon crowd either. Companies don't lie as much as you'd like to believe.
Hulk0069 said:
Really? They think they own our equipment, when they don't.we just use their service
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That is what I was trying to say...
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You believe they're blocking it, despite them directly saying they're not? I guess you're in the we never went to the moon crowd either. Companies don't lie as much as you'd like to believe.
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I believe that they want to see their service (Isis) to succeed and since Google wallet is a competitor than they don't want it on there. Because I say that doesn't mean you can judge me. I have my opinion of a company. You have yours. The end.
I've gotten Google Wallet to work and then when I take any updates it screws up damn Verizon!
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Exactly. The problem isn't actually running the app. Google Wallet runs fine on our phones once it's installed, the issue is that it isn't available in the PlayStore for us to download without us changing a file to fool the store into thinking we are on another phone...which allows us to proceed with the download.
Verizon is saying it won't run on the phone as it is and that's wrong...it's running fine.
The only issue is that Verizon is blocking the download.
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I just wish something would happen. I couldn't get google wallet to work on mine even after I used the fix
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You believe they're blocking it, despite them directly saying they're not? I guess you're in the we never went to the moon crowd either. Companies don't lie as much as you'd like to believe.
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Verizon is being about as honest on this as Clinton was with his "it depends on what the meaning of 'is' is."
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You believe they're blocking it, despite them directly saying they're not? I guess you're in the we never went to the moon crowd either. Companies don't lie as much as you'd like to believe.
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They are blocking it, they're just doing it indirectly. Instead of saying "you cannot run Google wallet on your phone" they are telling Google that they cannot access the hardware Google wallet needs to function correctly.
Our phone has the hardware necessary to run Google wallet, but Verizon is not letting them use it.
Clearly the secure element in the nfc chip is important for this functionality or their own implementation wouldn't be using it.
They may not be flat out lying but they are being pretty dishonest.
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They're only saying that Google won't update Wallet to access the secure element, not that they're denying Google from accessing it. Companies don't operate the way y'all think. Verizon isn't blocking it, Google is. The end.
chamberc said:
They're only saying that Google won't update Wallet to access the secure element, not that they're denying Google from accessing it. Companies don't operate the way y'all think. Verizon isn't blocking it, Google is. The end.
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We clearly aren't reading the same letter.
Google Wallet is different from other widely-available m-commerce services in that it requires access to the device's secure element...Google is free to offer it's Google Wallet application in a manner that doesn't require integration with the secure element.
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I'm not sure how much more clear it can be that Verizon is not allowing Google to access the secure element. They want Google to modify it to NOT use the secure element so that their own mobile payment solution has an advantage.
Let me start by saying I removed the pr.adapt apk that requested root permission. So anyways I received a notification on the my t-mo app about device health, wanted to check out what it said. It said battery was average, performance was good, and when I clicked on battery there was a report for GPS, Root, and Wifi. Says device is rooted. Soooo idk what that will affect for me but heads up for everyone else.
I disabled it and denied root permissions.
Where is the pr.adapt app located?
roosxter said:
Where is the pr.adapt app located?
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/system/priv-app/adaptclient
Reboot after it's done.
T-Mobile can see just about every aspect of your device. What apps you have installed, how much storage you have available, whether or not you're rooted. My line is on an employee account, my close friend works for them. You'd be surprised what info your device sends them even if you don't want it to.
It's funny, I called tech support yesterday, since the V10 is ****ting the bed here (GPS is a mile or so off, tons of dropped calls, speakerphone barely works) and the TWO techs I spoke to were like "Yeah, this is why I have the G4. I installed Cyanogenmod, and the phone is just perfect!"
I just played dumb and was like "Root? Like on plants? Hurrrrrrrr"
I've had one other application able to tell that I've rooted my phone. It is a bank app that now refuses to work because of the device being rooted .
stevenlong said:
I've had one other application able to tell that I've rooted my phone. It is a bank app that now refuses to work because of the device being rooted .
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Which bank?
Tmo employee here. Just a heads up, if you want to turn off the data your device sends to T-Mobile, you have to go into the settings on the my T-Mobile app and turn off diagnostics and send data to T-Mobile. Usually everyone blindly agrees to in durring the initial device set up.
stevenlong said:
I've had one other application able to tell that I've rooted my phone. It is a bank app that now refuses to work because of the device being rooted .
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parusia said:
Which bank?
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Security Service Federal Credit Union (so not a true bank but they hold my money)
stevenlong said:
I've had one other application able to tell that I've rooted my phone. It is a bank app that now refuses to work because of the device being rooted .
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If you have Xposed, install Rootcloak for Lollipop and add your app to it, problem solved.
thanks I'll give that a try.
Yes TMobile knows.....
what I know and what (im learning) w 2 rooted devices and some personal observation.
The PR apk is a battery killer. It forever runs in the background always asking for root. And they know when you root (if one of the three suspected apps isn't blocked from learning it. ) The device troubleshooting software is pretty amazing they can uninstall apps see what's. Installed. And the memory being used ect.) Even remote support w permission from user.
Its not only my Tmo app and the PR apk. LOOKOUT snitches on you too I think. (Pretty sure there is a partnership between lookout and the uncarrier)
Wifi calling and the hotspot app are both integrated into the system wifi apk (which I theorize to be how they monitor users trying to hide that ) (and one other method I know of companies finding out who is burning thru hotspot data.)
VoLTE drains battery. The call quality IS great but not worth what I see battery reduce to. (I suspect wifi calling also carries other secrets)
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what I know and what (im learning) w 2 rooted devices and some personal observation.
The PR apk is a battery killer. It forever runs in the background always asking for root. And they know when you root (if one of the three suspected apps isn't blocked from learning it. ) The device troubleshooting software is pretty amazing they can uninstall apps see what's. Installed. And the memory being used ect.) Even remote support w permission from user.
Its not only my Tmo app and the PR apk. LOOKOUT snitches on you too I think. (Pretty sure there is a partnership between lookout and the uncarrier)
Wifi calling and the hotspot app are both integrated into the system wifi apk (which I theorize to be how they monitor users trying to hide that ) (and one other method I know of companies finding out who is burning thru hotspot data.)
VoLTE drains battery. The call quality IS great but not worth what I see battery reduce to. (I suspect wifi calling also carries other secrets)
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Never really use the LOOKOUT app other than to scan apps I download outside of the Play Store... why do you suspect this app of being a snitch?
You can use Disable Bloatware from the app store to disable pradapt as well. No root needed.
I'm confused on the or.adapt all...is this part of the tmo app? I really want to get rid of that fricken app, especially before I consider rooting.
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Never really use the LOOKOUT app other than to scan apps I download outside of the Play Store... why do you suspect this app of being a snitch?
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it''s preinstalled on all their devices. except apple...not to mention tmobile finances their phones to 90 percent of their consumers....Personally i think they would have more than just the apps w their name on it to keep up with whats happening with devices the customer doesn't own yet. also one of the insurance packages offered by tmo includes a subscription to lookout.
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it''s preinstalled on all their devices. except apple...not to mention tmobile finances their phones to 90 percent of their consumers....Personally i think they would have more than just the apps w their name on it to keep up with whats happening with devices the customer doesn't own yet. also one of the insurance packages offered by tmo includes a subscription to lookout.
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thanks, good enough reason for me to remove!
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I'm confused on the or.adapt all...is this part of the tmo app? I really want to get rid of that fricken app, especially before I consider rooting.
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Its an app that always asks for root it's safe to remove will probably require a. Reboot you will get toast about it not responding. After reboot they go away. I don't have it all figured out yet this is a seperate apk from the Tmo apps.it will ask for root as soon as you boot and are rooted deny it until you freeze or remove.
justory85 said:
what I know and what (im learning) w 2 rooted devices and some personal observation.
The PR apk is a battery killer. It forever runs in the background always asking for root. And they know when you root (if one of the three suspected apps isn't blocked from learning it. ) The device troubleshooting software is pretty amazing they can uninstall apps see what's. Installed. And the memory being used ect.) Even remote support w permission from user.
Its not only my Tmo app and the PR apk. LOOKOUT snitches on you too I think. (Pretty sure there is a partnership between lookout and the uncarrier)
Wifi calling and the hotspot app are both integrated into the system wifi apk (which I theorize to be how they monitor users trying to hide that ) (and one other method I know of companies finding out who is burning thru hotspot data.)
VoLTE drains battery. The call quality IS great but not worth what I see battery reduce to. (I suspect wifi calling also carries other secrets)
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So does anyone have any clue how to get the unlimited hotspot going on this? Cause it would be useful for YouTube on my laptop while stuck on a train