So Verizon actually responded to an fcc complaint. This is their stupid reason for blocking Google wallet. Strangely no mention if their home grown "Isis" voids this "security" thing.
androidheadlines.com/2012/12/verizon-tells-us-why-they-block-google-wallet-due-to-secure-element-requirement.html
Did you read their letter? They aren't blocking it. Google Wallet does not work with their secure element. Google can update Wallet to work with their phones anytime they want to.
chamberc said:
Did you read their letter? They aren't blocking it. Google Wallet does not work with their secure element. Google can update Wallet to work with their phones anytime they want to.
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Google Wallet already works on their phones. I have it running on my Galaxy S3, and I'm sure a bit of searching will show that it runs perfectly fine on other phones, as well. I installed it directly from Google Play after editing a few tags to make Google Play think that I had a different phone, so they are, indeed, blocking Google Wallet.
Yes, they were responding to my complaint.
I believe Verizon IS blocking it, because Wallet runs on the Sprint GS3, and also, members here have gotten it to run on the Verizon GS3 by simply changing a few things on their phone.
Funny how Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mobile are backing ISIS, and Google Wallet doesn't work on those companies GS3, but Sprint is NOT backing ISIS and Google Wallet works on their GS3... HMMMM..... what does that tell you?
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So Verizon actually responded to an fcc complaint. This is their stupid reason for blocking Google wallet. Strangely no mention if their home grown "Isis" voids this "security" thing.
androidheadlines.com/2012/12/verizon-tells-us-why-they-block-google-wallet-due-to-secure-element-requirement.html
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Verizon isn't the only carrier using ISIS, it is not a homegrown service.
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Did you read their letter? They aren't blocking it. Google Wallet does not work with their secure element. Google can update Wallet to work with their phones anytime they want to.
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Isis should void this "secure element" to then since it requires special hardware and such.
redhooka said:
Verizon isn't the only carrier using ISIS, it is not a homegrown service.
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Verizon, ATT, and T-Mobile are all backing it. Correct. But they are making their own wallet service. Therefore it is home grown. By all three of them.
vzw knows they are right and not afraid to show it!
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its verizon against the world!
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vzw knows they are right and not afraid to show it!
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its verizon against the world!
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I don't see how Verizon is right in all this...
dsDoan said:
Google Wallet already works on their phones. I have it running on my Galaxy S3, and I'm sure a bit of searching will show that it runs perfectly fine on other phones, as well. I installed it directly from Google Play after editing a few tags to make Google Play think that I had a different phone, so they are, indeed, blocking Google Wallet.
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Exactly. The problem isn't actually running the app. Google Wallet runs fine on our phones once it's installed, the issue is that it isn't available in the PlayStore for us to download without us changing a file to fool the store into thinking we are on another phone...which allows us to proceed with the download.
Verizon is saying it won't run on the phone as it is and that's wrong...it's running fine.
The only issue is that Verizon is blocking the download.
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I don't see how Verizon is right in all this...
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Really? They think they own our equipment, when they don't.we just use their service
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You believe they're blocking it, despite them directly saying they're not? I guess you're in the we never went to the moon crowd either. Companies don't lie as much as you'd like to believe.
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Really? They think they own our equipment, when they don't.we just use their service
Clean Romed&themed the [email protected]#out
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That is what I was trying to say...
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You believe they're blocking it, despite them directly saying they're not? I guess you're in the we never went to the moon crowd either. Companies don't lie as much as you'd like to believe.
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I believe that they want to see their service (Isis) to succeed and since Google wallet is a competitor than they don't want it on there. Because I say that doesn't mean you can judge me. I have my opinion of a company. You have yours. The end.
I've gotten Google Wallet to work and then when I take any updates it screws up damn Verizon!
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Exactly. The problem isn't actually running the app. Google Wallet runs fine on our phones once it's installed, the issue is that it isn't available in the PlayStore for us to download without us changing a file to fool the store into thinking we are on another phone...which allows us to proceed with the download.
Verizon is saying it won't run on the phone as it is and that's wrong...it's running fine.
The only issue is that Verizon is blocking the download.
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I just wish something would happen. I couldn't get google wallet to work on mine even after I used the fix
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You believe they're blocking it, despite them directly saying they're not? I guess you're in the we never went to the moon crowd either. Companies don't lie as much as you'd like to believe.
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Verizon is being about as honest on this as Clinton was with his "it depends on what the meaning of 'is' is."
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You believe they're blocking it, despite them directly saying they're not? I guess you're in the we never went to the moon crowd either. Companies don't lie as much as you'd like to believe.
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They are blocking it, they're just doing it indirectly. Instead of saying "you cannot run Google wallet on your phone" they are telling Google that they cannot access the hardware Google wallet needs to function correctly.
Our phone has the hardware necessary to run Google wallet, but Verizon is not letting them use it.
Clearly the secure element in the nfc chip is important for this functionality or their own implementation wouldn't be using it.
They may not be flat out lying but they are being pretty dishonest.
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They're only saying that Google won't update Wallet to access the secure element, not that they're denying Google from accessing it. Companies don't operate the way y'all think. Verizon isn't blocking it, Google is. The end.
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They're only saying that Google won't update Wallet to access the secure element, not that they're denying Google from accessing it. Companies don't operate the way y'all think. Verizon isn't blocking it, Google is. The end.
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We clearly aren't reading the same letter.
Google Wallet is different from other widely-available m-commerce services in that it requires access to the device's secure element...Google is free to offer it's Google Wallet application in a manner that doesn't require integration with the secure element.
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I'm not sure how much more clear it can be that Verizon is not allowing Google to access the secure element. They want Google to modify it to NOT use the secure element so that their own mobile payment solution has an advantage.
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Based on a leak I read on Android Community there may be a launch today. I know that 2.3.5 OTA had stuff in it to enable using NFC payments. I doubt ROM's such as CM7 will be able to use it. Anybody else hear anything.
That would be cool! It should work on CM7.
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Will this only work with Nexus 4G? What about Nexus S GSM with 2.3.5 ROM like CM7 nightly?
Same question here. Why would they launch it only for the 4g when the 3g is equally capable?
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Same question here. Why would they launch it only for the 4g when the 3g is equally capable?
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Because Google partnered with Sprint to develop it as an alternative to efforts that were already in progress.
T-Mobile is partnered with AT&T and Verizon with Isis for their mobile payments. Rumor so far is that T-Mobile is resisting allowing it on their network due to their involvement with Isis.
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Will this only work with Nexus 4G? What about Nexus S GSM with 2.3.5 ROM like CM7 nightly?
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It's yet to be seen if it will work outside of Sprint's network initially. I hope so, but testing should be simple enough once the apk is available.
Wow. The consumer loses out again.
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Wow. The consumer loses out again.
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That's yet to be seen, but potentially yes. I would love to use Google Wallet personally and hope that it will work on T-Mobile's network (immediately would be great) using a 2.3.5 ROM.
Unfortunately you've got the credit card companies and carriers both scrambling for the tiny margin that exists within this business and the credit card companies trying not to lose any of the slim profit they earn on each purchase. So they are all scheming together to get the best deal for everyone without giving up too much. The consumer isn't much of a driving force as much as they continue to be a vehicle for profit and business.
Both groups are trying to determine how to do deployment of hardware to POS sites and who is going to bear this cost so that a roll out can be effective without putting undue burden on merchants (who would likely reject it if they had to bear the initial cost before wide spread adoption). If they can't get merchants to adopt it then it will never be available to consumers to even have a chance at success. It's quite tricky given the limited market.
Personally I love how Google Wallet looks and the integration it promises with coupons, loyalty cards and eventually digital receipts. If a competing standard does come to light I hope that it is a similarly robust solution.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-2...launching-today-signs-point-to-yes/?tag=mncol
Doesn't seem to mention Nexus S 4G nor restrictions other than needing to have Nexus S phone and MasterCard.
However, there are a few barriers to entry to get Google Wallet running. For one, users need the Android-based Nexus S smartphone, which has an NFC chip in it. In addition, the service is only available with MasterCard's PayPass system. According to the Google Wallet site, the service will work with Citi MasterCard credit cards and the Google PrePaid Card. In addition, Google Wallet can store "gift cards from participating merchants," Google says.
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droidance said:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-2...launching-today-signs-point-to-yes/?tag=mncol
Doesn't seem to mention Nexus S 4G nor restrictions other than needing to have Nexus S phone and MasterCard.
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Perhaps Cnet should stop being lazy and look at Google's own FAQ on wallet. http://www.google.com/wallet/faq.html
Can I use Google Wallet with my phone?
Google Wallet with tap and pay will be compatible with Nexus S 4G by Google, available on Sprint®.
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Google stated during the Google Wallet presentation a while back that it would launch on the NS4G and Sprint exclusively but they were working with other carriers to also bring it to the GSM Nexus S. They were not going to do it without carrier consent though seemed to be the implication.
http://www.google.com/search?gcx=w&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=google+wallet
an article posted a few hours ago is 404
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/19/samsung-nexus-s-4g-updated-to-support-google-wallet/
Update to NS4G? Guess NS can't just run .apk like that...
Tenhi said:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/19/samsung-nexus-s-4g-updated-to-support-google-wallet/
Update to NS4G? Guess NS can't just run .apk like that...
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Potentially - we'll see what's in the update package. I'm sure the APK itself will be written in the /system partition - necessitating an update package to write it there. We'll see what else gets pushed on top of an AOSP build with it.
I really dislike all this proprietary, walled garden technology making the rounds these days. That anyone would potentially have to factor in their preferred credit card company in choosing which cell phone network to use is ludicrous.
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Is there someone here who knows the location and filename(s) of where exactly the SMS data is stored. All I want to do is copy those files off the XDA2 and then do a hard reset and then copy the files back onto it, everything else is fully backed up already.
Thank you
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Blame your carrier for that.
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Google tweet
Any way of pulling the .APK so it will work on a Nexus S 4g running MIUI?
My hope is we will be able to simply build Android 2.3.7 from source for Crespo.
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I am on sprint nexus s 4g and haven't seen **** yet. Can't see it in market either.
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Any way of pulling the .APK so it will work on a Nexus S 4g running MIUI?
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bump, looking for the same thing.
http://officialandroid.blogspot.com/2012/08/use-any-credit-or-debit-card-with.html
Still not available for Verizon. But, Google Wallet no longer stores the information in the secure element of the physical phone, but stores it on their servers instead.
Also, it's now available for most credit cards.
Is this going to make it easier for someone to hack it on to our Verizon phones?
Can anyone get a copy of the .apk and see what happens if you just try to sideload?
It gives the usual "blah blah google wallet is not yet supported on your network" its really sad that verizon can block it.
I downloaded the updated google wallet from the play store on my Verizon GS3 and it still says "Unfortunately, Google Wallet is not yet available for your device or mobile network."
I haven't tried the original google wallet trick but I wonder if that could work with the new update.
If Verizon is going to block it, fine, but at least have a solution for us. I don't really care what payment provider gets the money. I just want to be able to use my phone to make purchases.
Do a little research. I have the verizon sgs3 and was able to get google wallet working.
gowansta said:
Do a little research. I have the verizon sgs3 and was able to get google wallet working.
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So you are confirming that the previous method works with the new Google Wallet app released today?
Did you even read this thread? Google Wallet was completely revamped today.
lexluthor said:
So you are confirming that the previous method works with the new Google Wallet app released today?
Did you even read this thread? Google Wallet was completely revamped today.
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Most likely not. I'm sure he's a tool referring to the non-updated GW and making snark tough guy remarks while simultaneously not reading.
I have a guide I made to get the latest one to work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1810040
tonu42 said:
I have a guide I made to get the latest one to work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1810040
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His guide works great, even to update if you already have used Modaco's file to install originally.
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His guide works great, even to update if you already have used Modaco's file to install originally.
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Just saying to others, my guide DOES work. If you did something else to use wallet and claim afterwards its broken. Not on me. I have heard from others that updating works too. So this is a confirmed addition to my guide.
I don't know much about Nfc stuff but think I want to setup Google wallet. Is there a apk file we can run or a zip to flash to get Google wallet? Or is it even a app like I side I don't know a lot about it.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1769083
cronek28 said:
I don't know much about Nfc stuff but think I want to setup Google wallet. Is there a apk file we can run or a zip to flash to get Google wallet? Or is it even a app like I side I don't know a lot about it.
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No APK that I know of. It's actually a really easy fix though. I was a little uneasy doing it but once I went through the process it was easy.
I did the wallet fix yesterday and I had lunch at McDonalds thanks to Google. Read the post and follow the directions as described. Good luck!
Awesome... Thanks guys
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cronek28 said:
I don't know much about Nfc stuff but think I want to setup Google wallet. Is there a apk file we can run or a zip to flash to get Google wallet? Or is it even a app like I side I don't know a lot about it.
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Google wallet is available in the play store now, Verizon unblocked it...
XRSTOY1 said:
Google wallet is available in the play store now, Verizon unblocked it...
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I don't see it with my S3.
XRSTOY1 said:
Google wallet is available in the play store now, Verizon unblocked it...
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yeah definitely not seeing that and don't remember hearing verizon unblocking or unlocking anything lol
Wallet problem
Greetings everyone!
A little background first. Verizon SGS3, rooted and unlocked, but still on stock TW.
I completed the steps in the above mentioned thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1769083, and everything seems to be working ok. I have made a few purchases and it works, however I am thinking something is wrong.
Let me explain. When I go to make a purchase, it will make the POS machine flash/beep, etc., but then shows on my screen that the trans. may not be good/complete. The cashier continues the sale like normal, the receipt prints and all is good, but it just takes a min standing in line to make sure that all is well. Then after a while, the trans will show up in Wallet (on the phone) in the list.
Is this normal for you all?
Second thing is that I can't see my Google PrePay card in the online Wallet page. I can see the other cards that I have added in both places, phone and online, but I can't manage the new card that was given when I signed up. Therefore, I am stuck adding funds on the phone.
Should I do a reset? Will this lose the $ that I have added to the PrePay card, or will it magically pick it back up when I re-setup Wallet on the phone? I have read that I need to write down the card number (user ID) in case you need it, and I assume that this is one of those times.
Any ideas?
TIA for the help.
I'm not seeing it either unfortunately. I was just getting ready to try the workaround & then saw your post. Oh well, guess I'll still try the workaround.
Is it possibly just a regional thing? I read somewhere that they were getting ready to roll out ISIS in a couple of markets soon - is it possible that they unblocked Wallet in those markets to avoid the 'how do you justify blocking wallet as a security concern if you're now allowing ISIS' question?
Dunno.
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I'm not seeing it either unfortunately. I was just getting ready to try the workaround & then saw your post. Oh well, guess I'll still try the workaround.
Is it possibly just a regional thing? I read somewhere that they were getting ready to roll out ISIS in a couple of markets soon - is it possible that they unblocked Wallet in those markets to avoid the 'how do you justify blocking wallet as a security concern if you're now allowing ISIS' question?
Dunno.
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There is a post in the general area about it thats where I heard it from but here is the link. When I go to the link it knows I have it installed properly it may take a bit before our S3's see it...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.walletnfcrel
it does say it's not available on my carrier for everything but my S3 thats where it's installed the XDA way. but thats funny because my tablet is WI-Fi only so it should be able to install it to my tab...Check the general section...
http://phandroid.com/2013/05/16/att-blocking-google-hangouts/
How do you guys even bother with such a crappy cell phone provider? Blocking boot-loaders, and blocking google hangout now? What the hell?
I am with Telus in Canada and they allow eveything.
well, they dont really have a choice, we might have unlocked bootloader and our carriers dont block much but they do own our ass a full year longer than in the US
GTalkEnabler , it's in the market and it allows gtalk and hangout video chating over 3g/4g
retested it with the new Hangouts
also I thought that was Google's doing, didn't know carriers can control such features within someone else's app o.o
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Nope, it was AT&T's doing. Just like they did with the Iphone's facetime. If they can do it to Apple, they can definitely do it to Google...
It is true, Canadian providers strangle us for 3 years instead of 2
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also I thought that was Google's doing, didn't know carriers can control such features within someone else's app o.o
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it is, but by ATTs request. Just like they requested wallet not to be accessible for ATT users, just like they asked samsung to block the dropbox promo, they ask and others do
Sh$$ att is getting worse and worse. I think I am going to sell my phones.
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it is, but by ATTs request. Just like they requested wallet not to be accessible for ATT users, just like they asked samsung to block the dropbox promo, they ask and others do
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I still don't know why Google complies with these "requests", they should just tell the carriers to pack sand and release the apps (or features) anyways.
I literally just did a hangout on the way home yesterday over mobile data. Is this an updated version of Google+? Maybe I won't update.
Nevermind- just followed the links and saw that this is the *new* hangout app which is going to replace Talk apparently. What I'm not clear about is whether this replaces the Talk apk or the Google+ current apk?
Did some more reading. So this is in fact a Talk replacement. From the Play Store:
First, title is Hangouts (replaced Talk)
and then
NOTE: If you aren't yet able to install Hangouts on your phone or tablet, or the Play Store "Open" button takes you to the old Talk app, hang tight, we are rolling out Hangouts to everyone over the course of several days. Rest assured Hangouts will be available soon for all Android 2.3+ devices, tablets included!
So they will push this out to all. Not really a big deal since you couldn't video with talk right now anyway. But from an integration perspective it sucks. I'm wondering why AT&T would block this and still allow the google+ app to do hangouts over their network. They must assume that many more would use this over the Google+ app.
It also notes that there will be no "invisible" mode. Kinda stupid to take that away. I use it all the time. I hope they don't force the updates.
Direct link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.talk
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I still don't know why Google complies with these "requests", they should just tell the carriers to pack sand and release the apps (or features) anyways.
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ATT is the client here...i dont agree with their policies but it is in their full right to make those demands. Imagine if you have kids, and you dont want your kids to go on X and Y sites, well you can ask the provider to block those websites. The kids might not agree with their parents but the fact is, it is their rights. And before the trolls come in and start saying that this and that doesnt hold up in my story, please, shhhhush, it's an analogy of principale and not a fact.
Does anyone know how to force the Hangouts update? I still have Talk and I can't figure out how to update to Hangouts. I can't from play via browser or the play app.
I found a APK online and when I try to install, it says "did not update" or something. I checked "install from other sources", but it didn't help.
anyone have any idea how to force the update without root.
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ATT is the client here...i dont agree with their policies but it is in their full right to make those demands. Imagine if you have kids, and you dont want your kids to go on X and Y sites, well you can ask the provider to block those websites. The kids might not agree with their parents but the fact is, it is their rights. And before the trolls come in and start saying that this and that doesnt hold up in my story, please, shhhhush, it's an analogy of principale and not a fact.
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I could see that argument maybe if you are talking about subsidized phones which (again arguably) are leased from the carrier, but the same restrictions apply if you have bought your phone outright.
In this instance (or in the case of Wallet) Google is a 3rd party software developer, to try for a similar analogy it's if my kids teacher told the grocery store not to sell me certain foods because they don't want my kid eating them.
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Does anyone know how to force the Hangouts update? I still have Talk and I can't figure out how to update to Hangouts. I can't from play via browser or the play app.
I found a APK online and when I try to install, it says "did not update" or something. I checked "install from other sources", but it didn't help.
anyone have any idea how to force the update without root.
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If you are rooted just downnload Titanium Backup and Uninstall the Talk App, then download Hangouts from Play Store, that's what I did last night, if you are not rooted then I still don't know how to do it.
erasat said:
If you are rooted just downnload Titanium Backup and Uninstall the Talk App, then download Hangouts from Play Store, that's what I did last night, if you are not rooted then I still don't know how to do it.
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I tried exactly that, even rebooted after uninstalling Talk but before installing hangouts but I was still not able to start a video chat over cellular.
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I could see that argument maybe if you are talking about subsidized phones which (again arguably) are leased from the carrier, but the same restrictions apply if you have bought your phone outright.
In this instance (or in the case of Wallet) Google is a 3rd party software developer, to try for a similar analogy it's if my kids teacher told the grocery store not to sell me certain foods because they don't want my kid eating them.
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yes, but an outright phone is still "renting" service from ATT regardless. Its like when you buy or rent a modem from an internet company, or a car, or anything else for that matter, if the provider said no, then you wont get your candy. in any case, we have already determined that ATT are aholes, they block so much good stuff for their clients, i'm speaking about tethering, facetime and other, i dont know why US carriers are like that but here in canada, we dont have all those restrictions, and we are just north of you, we technically can share line and service...
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http://phandroid.com/2013/05/16/att-blocking-google-hangouts/
How do you guys even bother with such a crappy cell phone provider? Blocking boot-loaders, and blocking google hangout now? What the hell?
I am with Telus in Canada and they allow eveything.
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Couldn't we just follow the instructions from said site and that would enable us access?
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mr_blanket said:
Does anyone know how to force the Hangouts update? I still have Talk and I can't figure out how to update to Hangouts. I can't from play via browser or the play app.
I found a APK online and when I try to install, it says "did not update" or something. I checked "install from other sources", but it didn't help.
anyone have any idea how to force the update without root.
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You can force the update by installing through the Play Store on a browser instead of the Play Store app.
Sushibagel said:
You can force the update by installing through the Play Store on a browser instead of the Play Store app.
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Can you explain how to do this? on the browser, it says its already installed
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Can you explain how to do this? on the browser, it says its already installed
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From your Web browser one you select install it will list all your devices even if it says you have it installed it should still work... Just make sure you do it from the desktop version the mobile one won't work I believe.
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Sushibagel said:
From your Web browser one you select install it will list all your devices even if it says you have it installed it should still work... Just make sure you do it from the desktop version the mobile one won't work I believe.
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I appreciate the help. It looks like I can update the Nexus, but not the S4...
does anyone know if the s7's bootloader gunna be locked on our network or not?
I mean you really need to ask this question. Obviously you didnt hear verizon is going to unlock all our bootloaders and give us all back unlimited data!
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I mean you really need to ask this question. Obviously you didnt hear verizon is going to unlock all our bootloaders and give us all back unlimited data!
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Lol I can't tell if thats sarcasm or not
Veid71 said:
Lol I can't tell if thats sarcasm or not
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Thanks for sharing this thread, it's really helpful. That was sarcasm. Of course the bl will be locked.
Veid71 said:
Lol I can't tell if thats sarcasm or not
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"Suck it, consumer!" -- Verizon
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"Suck it, consumer!" -- Verizon
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Next thing they will do is try to lock us out of the google play store.. They dont want us getting an app for free when they could charge you for one
jrkruse said:
Next thing they will do is try to lock us out of the google play store.. They dont want us getting an app for free when they could charge you for one
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Well, at least Verizon's apps (like VZW Navigator and Visual Voicemail) are superior to all possible alternatives... *snicker*
painiac said:
Well, at least Verizon's apps (like VZW Navigator and Visual Voicemail) are superior to all possible alternatives... *snicker*
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three sarcasmsing in one thread!
painiac said:
Well, at least Verizon's apps (like VZW Navigator and Visual Voicemail) are superior to all possible alternatives... *snicker*
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On a serious note, I loved Verizon's visual voicemail app, but have been using google voice as an alternative, do you recommend any other VVM apps?? thank you
rybchinskiy said:
On a serious note, I loved Verizon's visual voicemail app, but have been using google voice as an alternative, do you recommend any other VVM apps?? thank you
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No... I was being sarcastic. Verizon's offerings are terrible. If they were free they might be decent, but they do NOT justify any price.
painiac said:
No... I was being sarcastic. Verizon's offerings are terrible. If they were free they might be decent, but they do NOT justify any price.
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Oh im sorry i meant do you recommend any other Visual Voice Mail apps, NOT Verizon Voice Mail apps, i agree Verizon apps are terrible and a robbery, i have been using google voice but find it a bit lacking and that's why i asked if you have any other voicemail app recommendations.
P.S Verizon financial policy's may suck but we cant deny we gotta love their speeds and coverage.
Only thing I know it will be possible (most likely with triggering OEM unlock in developer settings for non Verizon phones) don't know if it will help "flash" recoveries and such stuff on the Verizon phones, how is it now if you trigger it, it won't help odin flash anything?
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rybchinskiy said:
Oh im sorry i meant do you recommend any other Visual Voice Mail apps, NOT Verizon Voice Mail apps, i agree Verizon apps are terrible and a robbery, i have been using google voice but find it a bit lacking and that's why i asked if you have any other voicemail app recommendations.
P.S Verizon financial policy's may suck but we cant deny we gotta love their speeds and coverage.
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I've been happy enough with Google Voice not to look for any alternatives.
Just get a nexus. I'm never getting another samsung phone.
Dudash said:
Just get a nexus. I'm never getting another samsung phone.
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eh i was thinking about getting nexus 6p but i cant stand that you wont be able to pull the battery if your phone ****s up and that theres no sd card slot
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I've been happy enough with Google Voice not to look for any alternatives.
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how did u get google voice to work? it tells me that the voicemail part of it is disabled due to the network provider (verizon)
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eh i was thinking about getting nexus 6p but i cant stand that you wont be able to pull the battery if your phone ****s up and that theres no sd card slot
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You can't remove the battery from the S7 either and I meant wait for the new nexus devices later this year. Supposedly Google wants to design them themselves which would make them better than prior nexus devices and since Google has moved back toward integrating sd cards into the OS with marshmallow, I'm sure android N will as well which means the next nexus devices will have sd card slots.
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You can't remove the battery from the S7 either and I meant wait for the new nexus devices later this year. Supposedly Google wants to design them themselves which would make them better than prior nexus devices and since Google has moved back toward integrating sd cards into the OS with marshmallow, I'm sure android N will as well which means the next nexus devices will have sd card slots.
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No it won't. The Nexus has never had an external SD, what makes you think they would suddenly integrate one?
Veid71 said:
how did u get google voice to work? it tells me that the voicemail part of it is disabled due to the network provider (verizon)
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I'm actually not sure.
I had Google Voice set up on my previous phone and restored it with Titanium Backup. When I go to the phone's voicemail settings I can select Google Voice as the voicemail provider. If I try to do the "setup" from there it gives me that same error you're getting, but it still works. Maybe try setting it up on a computer from the website? It's possible that step is unnecessary.
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You can't remove the battery from the S7 either and I meant wait for the new nexus devices later this year. Supposedly Google wants to design them themselves which would make them better than prior nexus devices and since Google has moved back toward integrating sd cards into the OS with marshmallow, I'm sure android N will as well which means the next nexus devices will have sd card slots.
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Isn't Google the very reason most of the manufacturers were pushed away from external SDcards in the first place?
I thought Verizon was done with carried tied phones. I though you would just buy the phone out right, or on a plan like at Best Buy, and then activate the sim. Maybe I a mistaken.
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