does anyone know if the s7's bootloader gunna be locked on our network or not?
I mean you really need to ask this question. Obviously you didnt hear verizon is going to unlock all our bootloaders and give us all back unlimited data!
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I mean you really need to ask this question. Obviously you didnt hear verizon is going to unlock all our bootloaders and give us all back unlimited data!
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Lol I can't tell if thats sarcasm or not
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Lol I can't tell if thats sarcasm or not
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Thanks for sharing this thread, it's really helpful. That was sarcasm. Of course the bl will be locked.
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Lol I can't tell if thats sarcasm or not
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"Suck it, consumer!" -- Verizon
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"Suck it, consumer!" -- Verizon
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Next thing they will do is try to lock us out of the google play store.. They dont want us getting an app for free when they could charge you for one
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Next thing they will do is try to lock us out of the google play store.. They dont want us getting an app for free when they could charge you for one
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Well, at least Verizon's apps (like VZW Navigator and Visual Voicemail) are superior to all possible alternatives... *snicker*
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Well, at least Verizon's apps (like VZW Navigator and Visual Voicemail) are superior to all possible alternatives... *snicker*
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three sarcasmsing in one thread!
painiac said:
Well, at least Verizon's apps (like VZW Navigator and Visual Voicemail) are superior to all possible alternatives... *snicker*
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On a serious note, I loved Verizon's visual voicemail app, but have been using google voice as an alternative, do you recommend any other VVM apps?? thank you
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On a serious note, I loved Verizon's visual voicemail app, but have been using google voice as an alternative, do you recommend any other VVM apps?? thank you
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No... I was being sarcastic. Verizon's offerings are terrible. If they were free they might be decent, but they do NOT justify any price.
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No... I was being sarcastic. Verizon's offerings are terrible. If they were free they might be decent, but they do NOT justify any price.
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Oh im sorry i meant do you recommend any other Visual Voice Mail apps, NOT Verizon Voice Mail apps, i agree Verizon apps are terrible and a robbery, i have been using google voice but find it a bit lacking and that's why i asked if you have any other voicemail app recommendations.
P.S Verizon financial policy's may suck but we cant deny we gotta love their speeds and coverage.
Only thing I know it will be possible (most likely with triggering OEM unlock in developer settings for non Verizon phones) don't know if it will help "flash" recoveries and such stuff on the Verizon phones, how is it now if you trigger it, it won't help odin flash anything?
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Oh im sorry i meant do you recommend any other Visual Voice Mail apps, NOT Verizon Voice Mail apps, i agree Verizon apps are terrible and a robbery, i have been using google voice but find it a bit lacking and that's why i asked if you have any other voicemail app recommendations.
P.S Verizon financial policy's may suck but we cant deny we gotta love their speeds and coverage.
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I've been happy enough with Google Voice not to look for any alternatives.
Just get a nexus. I'm never getting another samsung phone.
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Just get a nexus. I'm never getting another samsung phone.
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eh i was thinking about getting nexus 6p but i cant stand that you wont be able to pull the battery if your phone ****s up and that theres no sd card slot
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I've been happy enough with Google Voice not to look for any alternatives.
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how did u get google voice to work? it tells me that the voicemail part of it is disabled due to the network provider (verizon)
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eh i was thinking about getting nexus 6p but i cant stand that you wont be able to pull the battery if your phone ****s up and that theres no sd card slot
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You can't remove the battery from the S7 either and I meant wait for the new nexus devices later this year. Supposedly Google wants to design them themselves which would make them better than prior nexus devices and since Google has moved back toward integrating sd cards into the OS with marshmallow, I'm sure android N will as well which means the next nexus devices will have sd card slots.
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You can't remove the battery from the S7 either and I meant wait for the new nexus devices later this year. Supposedly Google wants to design them themselves which would make them better than prior nexus devices and since Google has moved back toward integrating sd cards into the OS with marshmallow, I'm sure android N will as well which means the next nexus devices will have sd card slots.
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No it won't. The Nexus has never had an external SD, what makes you think they would suddenly integrate one?
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how did u get google voice to work? it tells me that the voicemail part of it is disabled due to the network provider (verizon)
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I'm actually not sure.
I had Google Voice set up on my previous phone and restored it with Titanium Backup. When I go to the phone's voicemail settings I can select Google Voice as the voicemail provider. If I try to do the "setup" from there it gives me that same error you're getting, but it still works. Maybe try setting it up on a computer from the website? It's possible that step is unnecessary.
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You can't remove the battery from the S7 either and I meant wait for the new nexus devices later this year. Supposedly Google wants to design them themselves which would make them better than prior nexus devices and since Google has moved back toward integrating sd cards into the OS with marshmallow, I'm sure android N will as well which means the next nexus devices will have sd card slots.
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Isn't Google the very reason most of the manufacturers were pushed away from external SDcards in the first place?
I thought Verizon was done with carried tied phones. I though you would just buy the phone out right, or on a plan like at Best Buy, and then activate the sim. Maybe I a mistaken.
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Based on a leak I read on Android Community there may be a launch today. I know that 2.3.5 OTA had stuff in it to enable using NFC payments. I doubt ROM's such as CM7 will be able to use it. Anybody else hear anything.
That would be cool! It should work on CM7.
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Will this only work with Nexus 4G? What about Nexus S GSM with 2.3.5 ROM like CM7 nightly?
Same question here. Why would they launch it only for the 4g when the 3g is equally capable?
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Same question here. Why would they launch it only for the 4g when the 3g is equally capable?
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Because Google partnered with Sprint to develop it as an alternative to efforts that were already in progress.
T-Mobile is partnered with AT&T and Verizon with Isis for their mobile payments. Rumor so far is that T-Mobile is resisting allowing it on their network due to their involvement with Isis.
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Will this only work with Nexus 4G? What about Nexus S GSM with 2.3.5 ROM like CM7 nightly?
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It's yet to be seen if it will work outside of Sprint's network initially. I hope so, but testing should be simple enough once the apk is available.
Wow. The consumer loses out again.
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Wow. The consumer loses out again.
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That's yet to be seen, but potentially yes. I would love to use Google Wallet personally and hope that it will work on T-Mobile's network (immediately would be great) using a 2.3.5 ROM.
Unfortunately you've got the credit card companies and carriers both scrambling for the tiny margin that exists within this business and the credit card companies trying not to lose any of the slim profit they earn on each purchase. So they are all scheming together to get the best deal for everyone without giving up too much. The consumer isn't much of a driving force as much as they continue to be a vehicle for profit and business.
Both groups are trying to determine how to do deployment of hardware to POS sites and who is going to bear this cost so that a roll out can be effective without putting undue burden on merchants (who would likely reject it if they had to bear the initial cost before wide spread adoption). If they can't get merchants to adopt it then it will never be available to consumers to even have a chance at success. It's quite tricky given the limited market.
Personally I love how Google Wallet looks and the integration it promises with coupons, loyalty cards and eventually digital receipts. If a competing standard does come to light I hope that it is a similarly robust solution.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-2...launching-today-signs-point-to-yes/?tag=mncol
Doesn't seem to mention Nexus S 4G nor restrictions other than needing to have Nexus S phone and MasterCard.
However, there are a few barriers to entry to get Google Wallet running. For one, users need the Android-based Nexus S smartphone, which has an NFC chip in it. In addition, the service is only available with MasterCard's PayPass system. According to the Google Wallet site, the service will work with Citi MasterCard credit cards and the Google PrePaid Card. In addition, Google Wallet can store "gift cards from participating merchants," Google says.
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-2...launching-today-signs-point-to-yes/?tag=mncol
Doesn't seem to mention Nexus S 4G nor restrictions other than needing to have Nexus S phone and MasterCard.
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Perhaps Cnet should stop being lazy and look at Google's own FAQ on wallet. http://www.google.com/wallet/faq.html
Can I use Google Wallet with my phone?
Google Wallet with tap and pay will be compatible with Nexus S 4G by Google, available on Sprint®.
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Google stated during the Google Wallet presentation a while back that it would launch on the NS4G and Sprint exclusively but they were working with other carriers to also bring it to the GSM Nexus S. They were not going to do it without carrier consent though seemed to be the implication.
http://www.google.com/search?gcx=w&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=google+wallet
an article posted a few hours ago is 404
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/19/samsung-nexus-s-4g-updated-to-support-google-wallet/
Update to NS4G? Guess NS can't just run .apk like that...
Tenhi said:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/19/samsung-nexus-s-4g-updated-to-support-google-wallet/
Update to NS4G? Guess NS can't just run .apk like that...
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Potentially - we'll see what's in the update package. I'm sure the APK itself will be written in the /system partition - necessitating an update package to write it there. We'll see what else gets pushed on top of an AOSP build with it.
I really dislike all this proprietary, walled garden technology making the rounds these days. That anyone would potentially have to factor in their preferred credit card company in choosing which cell phone network to use is ludicrous.
Macjules said:
Is there someone here who knows the location and filename(s) of where exactly the SMS data is stored. All I want to do is copy those files off the XDA2 and then do a hard reset and then copy the files back onto it, everything else is fully backed up already.
Thank you
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Blame your carrier for that.
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Google tweet
Any way of pulling the .APK so it will work on a Nexus S 4g running MIUI?
My hope is we will be able to simply build Android 2.3.7 from source for Crespo.
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I am on sprint nexus s 4g and haven't seen **** yet. Can't see it in market either.
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Any way of pulling the .APK so it will work on a Nexus S 4g running MIUI?
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bump, looking for the same thing.
OK I'm starting this post for my buddy who has a sprint galaxy nexus we live in south Florida and spring took there towers off line today to do some service to there towers well when they put them back online they deactivated his service and when he called customer service he told them his phone was rooted and unlocked with a custom ROM and they told him that sprint probably seen that his phone was rooted and that is why they deactivated his device well he has it back on now and is getting no data what so ever
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cant see that happening tbh, why would a phone network care about what you do to your device? Only the phone manufacturer would care about you invalidating your warranty if you were to book it in for repair.
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cant see that happening tbh, why would a phone network care about what you do to your device? Only the phone manufacturer would care about you invalidating your warranty if you were to book it in for repair.
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That's what I told him but he said the lady was pretty persistent about that
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As an ex-Sprint in-store technician, the lady was bullshitting.
Product F(RED) said:
As an ex-Sprint in-store technician, the lady was bullshitting.
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Why do u think they deactivated his device I mean its back up now but he us getting no data what so ever just voice everything was fine prior to getting deactivated
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bostonbassman78 said:
Why do u think they deactivated his device I mean its back up now but he us getting no data what so ever just voice everything was fine prior to getting deactivated
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Tell him to do a profile update. Settings -> About Phone -> Sprint updates -> Update Profile (if I remember correctly) and then Update PRL. Otherwise just call up Sprint and tell them he's not getting data and they should be able to refresh his profile from their end. Also, they can't do anything about you rooting your phone as it's yours. If he starts tethering like 50GB a month or something stupid like that, then yeah there's an issue. But I'm assume it's normal usage. Why he even bothered telling the lady his phone is rooted is beyond me...No offense, but that was pretty stupid.
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Tell him to do a profile update. Settings -> About Phone -> Sprint updates -> Update Profile (if I remember correctly) and then Update PRL. Otherwise just call up Sprint and tell them he's not getting data and they should be able to refresh his profile from their end. Also, they can't do anything about you rooting your phone as it's yours. If he starts tethering like 50GB a month or something stupid like that, then yeah there's an issue. But I'm assume it's normal usage. Why he even bothered telling the lady his phone is rooted is beyond me...No offense, but that was pretty stupid.
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I sent him the link for this thread so he should be on here soon
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bostonbassman78 said:
I sent him the link for this thread so he should be on here soon
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I heard it's not so good in south florida with sprint.
Charybdisan said:
I heard it's not so good in south florida with sprint.
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It's not so good anywhere unless you're in their LTE areas. Their coverage is fine, voice and text is fine. Their data is GARBAGE.
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It's not so good anywhere unless you're in their LTE areas. Their coverage is fine, voice and text is fine. Their data is GARBAGE.
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He should be on in a minute or two if you could pls stay on he wants to pick your brain he said he tried that profile thing didn't work he said
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As an ex-Sprint in-store technician, the lady was bullshitting.
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Hey what's up guys? I'm the guy with the Sprint issues. It makes absolutely no sense to me at all why they would care about my device but the way she made it sound was that Sprint cannot restore my 3g data because my device was rooted. She told me that my best bet would be to flash back to stop and start over. She concluded with an offer to follow up with me after I flashed back to stock and she could rectify the data situation then. Call me crazy but I think I want the opinion of the guys who know what's going on and not the one of the chick reading off her computer screen. Any help on this would be greatly appreciated.
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Hey what's up guys? I'm the guy with the Sprint issues. It makes absolutely no sense to me at all why they would care about my device but the way she made it sound was that Sprint cannot restore my 3g data because my device was rooted. She told me that my best bet would be to flash back to stop and start over. She concluded with an offer to follow up with me after I flashed back to stock and she could rectify the data situation then. Call me crazy but I think I want the opinion of the guys who know what's going on and not the one of the chick reading off her computer screen. Any help on this would be greatly appreciated.
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Several things I have to say:
1. Do not EVER EVER EVER tell your phone company that you rooted your device because the things that run through their mind are:
a) ****! Now he can tether without paying!
b) We're not fixing your phone now because you voided the warranty.
I hope she didn't put notes on your account for b) because that can prevent you from getting your phone repaired in a Sprint store.
Also, it depends what software is on your phone. Have you tried going back to stock? Have you tried calling Sprint again and not mentioning that your phone is rooted?
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Several things I have to say:
1. Do not EVER EVER EVER tell your phone company that you rooted your device because the things that run through their mind are:
a) ****! Now he can tether without paying!
b) We're not fixing your phone now because you voided the warranty.
I hope she didn't put notes on your account for b) because that can prevent you from getting your phone repaired in a Sprint store.
Also, it depends what software is on your phone. Have you tried going back to stock? Have you tried calling Sprint again and not mentioning that your phone is rooted?
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He is on the toroplus ROM from teameos I'm gonna assume the most recent one
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Product F(RED) said:
Several things I have to say:
1. Do not EVER EVER EVER tell your phone company that you rooted your device because the things that run through their mind are:
a) ****! Now he can tether without paying!
b) We're not fixing your phone now because you voided the warranty.
I hope she didn't put notes on your account for b) because that can prevent you from getting your phone repaired in a Sprint store.
Also, it depends what software is on your phone. Have you tried going back to stock? Have you tried calling Sprint again and not mentioning that your phone is rooted?
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I asked her if there were going to be notes on my account mentioning it being rooted and she said yes but she said she was putting another note stating that the phone was being returned to stock. So I don't know. I'm learning and the main thing I'm learning is that the more I try to learn about this ****, the worse it's getting. The thing I hate the most is that this is a way to break away from the communist machine that is Sprint but somehow they still have me by the balls.
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He is on the toroplus ROM from teameos I'm gonna assume the most recent one
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I am also on the toro ROM on my Verizon Gnex and I have no issue's like that
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I asked her if there were going to be notes on my account mentioning it being rooted and she said yes but she said she was putting another note stating that the phone was being returned to stock. So I don't know. I'm learning and the main thing I'm learning is that the more I try to learn about this ****, the worse it's getting. The thing I hate the most is that this is a way to break away from the communist machine that is Sprint but somehow they still have me by the balls.
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Technician notes are different from account notes, so if you were to go into a store for a repair I'm sure they wouldn't see that. Try reactivating your phone. Call Sprint, tell them:
"I called a while ago because I was having issues with data. A rep told me to punch in a code in the dialer and he also gave me the MSL code for my phone, but I can't find where I wrote it down. Do you mind telling me how to re-do the Handsfree Activation?"
Follow the instructions and see if that works. If nothing comes up on the dialer when you punch in the code, your ROM doesn't have Handsfree-Activation included. Try going to a stock ROM or ROM that has the Sprint menus in it.
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Technician notes are different from account notes, so if you were to go into a store for a repair I'm sure they wouldn't see that. Try reactivating your phone. Call Sprint, tell them:
"I called a while ago because I was having issues with data. A rep told me to punch in a code in the dialer and he also gave me the MSL code for my phone, but I can't find where I wrote it down. Do you mind telling me how to re-do the Handsfree Activation?"
Follow the instructions and see if that works. If nothing comes up on the dialer when you punch in the code, your ROM doesn't have Handsfree-Activation included. Try going to a stock ROM or ROM that has the Sprint menus in it.
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I'm gonna have to jump on this first thing in the morning. Thanks for the advice. I will post any results on this thread as they unfold.
I would go as far to say it would be illegal for the phone company to cut you off for tethering a device that you own. (There are apps such as FoxFi that bypass the 'tethering tax' mobile networks try to claim) However, as someone said previously if you are downloading heavily then I guess they could cut you off for that.
At T-Mobile, NO such policy of cutting you off exists and they rely solely on throttling and packet shaping.
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I would go as far to say it would be illegal for the phone company to cut you off for tethering a device that you own. (There are apps such as FoxFi that bypass the 'tethering tax' mobile networks try to claim) However, as someone said previously if you are downloading heavily then I guess they could cut you off for that.
At T-Mobile, NO such policy of cutting you off exists and they rely solely on throttling and packet shaping.
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Thing is, he barely knows what he's doing. He's rooted and ROM'd but that's it. He's new to this whole thing. I don't even think he was tethering; I was just using it as an example for why a phone company wouldn't want you rooting their devices. But yeah I agree, you can't get cut off for modifying your device like that unless it was doing something that it logically should not be able to do (like if you were using it as a 24/7 server to host a website or something crazy).
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Thing is, he barely knows what he's doing. He's rooted and ROM'd but that's it. He's new to this whole thing. I don't even think he was tethering; I was just using it as an example for why a phone company wouldn't want you rooting their devices. But yeah I agree, you can't get cut off for modifying your device like that unless it was doing something that it logically should not be able to do (like if you were using it as a 24/7 server to host a website or something crazy).
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Well it got worse now his phone is telling that command droid is not working any thoughts on this and is there a way to get back to stock
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I don't know much about Nfc stuff but think I want to setup Google wallet. Is there a apk file we can run or a zip to flash to get Google wallet? Or is it even a app like I side I don't know a lot about it.
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I don't know much about Nfc stuff but think I want to setup Google wallet. Is there a apk file we can run or a zip to flash to get Google wallet? Or is it even a app like I side I don't know a lot about it.
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No APK that I know of. It's actually a really easy fix though. I was a little uneasy doing it but once I went through the process it was easy.
I did the wallet fix yesterday and I had lunch at McDonalds thanks to Google. Read the post and follow the directions as described. Good luck!
Awesome... Thanks guys
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I don't know much about Nfc stuff but think I want to setup Google wallet. Is there a apk file we can run or a zip to flash to get Google wallet? Or is it even a app like I side I don't know a lot about it.
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Google wallet is available in the play store now, Verizon unblocked it...
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Google wallet is available in the play store now, Verizon unblocked it...
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I don't see it with my S3.
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Google wallet is available in the play store now, Verizon unblocked it...
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yeah definitely not seeing that and don't remember hearing verizon unblocking or unlocking anything lol
Wallet problem
Greetings everyone!
A little background first. Verizon SGS3, rooted and unlocked, but still on stock TW.
I completed the steps in the above mentioned thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1769083, and everything seems to be working ok. I have made a few purchases and it works, however I am thinking something is wrong.
Let me explain. When I go to make a purchase, it will make the POS machine flash/beep, etc., but then shows on my screen that the trans. may not be good/complete. The cashier continues the sale like normal, the receipt prints and all is good, but it just takes a min standing in line to make sure that all is well. Then after a while, the trans will show up in Wallet (on the phone) in the list.
Is this normal for you all?
Second thing is that I can't see my Google PrePay card in the online Wallet page. I can see the other cards that I have added in both places, phone and online, but I can't manage the new card that was given when I signed up. Therefore, I am stuck adding funds on the phone.
Should I do a reset? Will this lose the $ that I have added to the PrePay card, or will it magically pick it back up when I re-setup Wallet on the phone? I have read that I need to write down the card number (user ID) in case you need it, and I assume that this is one of those times.
Any ideas?
TIA for the help.
I'm not seeing it either unfortunately. I was just getting ready to try the workaround & then saw your post. Oh well, guess I'll still try the workaround.
Is it possibly just a regional thing? I read somewhere that they were getting ready to roll out ISIS in a couple of markets soon - is it possible that they unblocked Wallet in those markets to avoid the 'how do you justify blocking wallet as a security concern if you're now allowing ISIS' question?
Dunno.
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I'm not seeing it either unfortunately. I was just getting ready to try the workaround & then saw your post. Oh well, guess I'll still try the workaround.
Is it possibly just a regional thing? I read somewhere that they were getting ready to roll out ISIS in a couple of markets soon - is it possible that they unblocked Wallet in those markets to avoid the 'how do you justify blocking wallet as a security concern if you're now allowing ISIS' question?
Dunno.
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There is a post in the general area about it thats where I heard it from but here is the link. When I go to the link it knows I have it installed properly it may take a bit before our S3's see it...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.walletnfcrel
it does say it's not available on my carrier for everything but my S3 thats where it's installed the XDA way. but thats funny because my tablet is WI-Fi only so it should be able to install it to my tab...Check the general section...
So Verizon actually responded to an fcc complaint. This is their stupid reason for blocking Google wallet. Strangely no mention if their home grown "Isis" voids this "security" thing.
androidheadlines.com/2012/12/verizon-tells-us-why-they-block-google-wallet-due-to-secure-element-requirement.html
Did you read their letter? They aren't blocking it. Google Wallet does not work with their secure element. Google can update Wallet to work with their phones anytime they want to.
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Did you read their letter? They aren't blocking it. Google Wallet does not work with their secure element. Google can update Wallet to work with their phones anytime they want to.
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Google Wallet already works on their phones. I have it running on my Galaxy S3, and I'm sure a bit of searching will show that it runs perfectly fine on other phones, as well. I installed it directly from Google Play after editing a few tags to make Google Play think that I had a different phone, so they are, indeed, blocking Google Wallet.
Yes, they were responding to my complaint.
I believe Verizon IS blocking it, because Wallet runs on the Sprint GS3, and also, members here have gotten it to run on the Verizon GS3 by simply changing a few things on their phone.
Funny how Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mobile are backing ISIS, and Google Wallet doesn't work on those companies GS3, but Sprint is NOT backing ISIS and Google Wallet works on their GS3... HMMMM..... what does that tell you?
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So Verizon actually responded to an fcc complaint. This is their stupid reason for blocking Google wallet. Strangely no mention if their home grown "Isis" voids this "security" thing.
androidheadlines.com/2012/12/verizon-tells-us-why-they-block-google-wallet-due-to-secure-element-requirement.html
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Verizon isn't the only carrier using ISIS, it is not a homegrown service.
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Did you read their letter? They aren't blocking it. Google Wallet does not work with their secure element. Google can update Wallet to work with their phones anytime they want to.
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Isis should void this "secure element" to then since it requires special hardware and such.
redhooka said:
Verizon isn't the only carrier using ISIS, it is not a homegrown service.
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Verizon, ATT, and T-Mobile are all backing it. Correct. But they are making their own wallet service. Therefore it is home grown. By all three of them.
vzw knows they are right and not afraid to show it!
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its verizon against the world!
imjehh said:
vzw knows they are right and not afraid to show it!
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its verizon against the world!
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I don't see how Verizon is right in all this...
dsDoan said:
Google Wallet already works on their phones. I have it running on my Galaxy S3, and I'm sure a bit of searching will show that it runs perfectly fine on other phones, as well. I installed it directly from Google Play after editing a few tags to make Google Play think that I had a different phone, so they are, indeed, blocking Google Wallet.
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Exactly. The problem isn't actually running the app. Google Wallet runs fine on our phones once it's installed, the issue is that it isn't available in the PlayStore for us to download without us changing a file to fool the store into thinking we are on another phone...which allows us to proceed with the download.
Verizon is saying it won't run on the phone as it is and that's wrong...it's running fine.
The only issue is that Verizon is blocking the download.
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I don't see how Verizon is right in all this...
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Really? They think they own our equipment, when they don't.we just use their service
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You believe they're blocking it, despite them directly saying they're not? I guess you're in the we never went to the moon crowd either. Companies don't lie as much as you'd like to believe.
Hulk0069 said:
Really? They think they own our equipment, when they don't.we just use their service
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That is what I was trying to say...
chamberc said:
You believe they're blocking it, despite them directly saying they're not? I guess you're in the we never went to the moon crowd either. Companies don't lie as much as you'd like to believe.
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I believe that they want to see their service (Isis) to succeed and since Google wallet is a competitor than they don't want it on there. Because I say that doesn't mean you can judge me. I have my opinion of a company. You have yours. The end.
I've gotten Google Wallet to work and then when I take any updates it screws up damn Verizon!
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Exactly. The problem isn't actually running the app. Google Wallet runs fine on our phones once it's installed, the issue is that it isn't available in the PlayStore for us to download without us changing a file to fool the store into thinking we are on another phone...which allows us to proceed with the download.
Verizon is saying it won't run on the phone as it is and that's wrong...it's running fine.
The only issue is that Verizon is blocking the download.
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I just wish something would happen. I couldn't get google wallet to work on mine even after I used the fix
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You believe they're blocking it, despite them directly saying they're not? I guess you're in the we never went to the moon crowd either. Companies don't lie as much as you'd like to believe.
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Verizon is being about as honest on this as Clinton was with his "it depends on what the meaning of 'is' is."
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You believe they're blocking it, despite them directly saying they're not? I guess you're in the we never went to the moon crowd either. Companies don't lie as much as you'd like to believe.
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They are blocking it, they're just doing it indirectly. Instead of saying "you cannot run Google wallet on your phone" they are telling Google that they cannot access the hardware Google wallet needs to function correctly.
Our phone has the hardware necessary to run Google wallet, but Verizon is not letting them use it.
Clearly the secure element in the nfc chip is important for this functionality or their own implementation wouldn't be using it.
They may not be flat out lying but they are being pretty dishonest.
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They're only saying that Google won't update Wallet to access the secure element, not that they're denying Google from accessing it. Companies don't operate the way y'all think. Verizon isn't blocking it, Google is. The end.
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They're only saying that Google won't update Wallet to access the secure element, not that they're denying Google from accessing it. Companies don't operate the way y'all think. Verizon isn't blocking it, Google is. The end.
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We clearly aren't reading the same letter.
Google Wallet is different from other widely-available m-commerce services in that it requires access to the device's secure element...Google is free to offer it's Google Wallet application in a manner that doesn't require integration with the secure element.
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I'm not sure how much more clear it can be that Verizon is not allowing Google to access the secure element. They want Google to modify it to NOT use the secure element so that their own mobile payment solution has an advantage.
Getting a used Verizon Pixel soon as backup/google home/project fi activation unit. So I'm learning about the situations here. It seems although people are able to unlock it and flash to stock firmware, it's still not possible to get stock OTA after all... right? I know I can do everything I want with it as is, but I still prefer a clean system... So if total debloat is not possible, is there an app or anything like Package Disabler for Pixels?
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Getting a used Verizon Pixel soon as backup/google home/project fi activation unit soon. So I'm learning about the situations here. It seems although people are able to unlock it and flash to stock firmware, it's still not possible to get stock OTA after all... right? I know I can do everything I want with it as is, but I still prefer a clean system... So if total debloat is not possible, is there an app or anything like Package Disabler for Pixels?
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Just go to apps and unistall the apps you don't want. They are not locked in there like the old days.
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Getting a used Verizon Pixel soon as backup/google home/project fi activation unit. So I'm learning about the situations here. It seems although people are able to unlock it and flash to stock firmware, it's still not possible to get stock OTA after all... right? I know I can do everything I want with it as is, but I still prefer a clean system... So if total debloat is not possible, is there an app or anything like Package Disabler for Pixels?
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There really isn't that much bloat anymore as it is... None of those ridiculous Verizon apps that no one ever used exist.
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tfly212 said:
There really isn't that much bloat anymore as it is... None of those ridiculous Verizon apps that no one ever used exist.
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Thanks guys. But is Verizon really keeping up with Google? Or do they drop one or two versions every some time...
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Thanks guys. But is Verizon really keeping up with Google? Or do they drop one or two versions every some time...
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The updates come regularly, but are usually a couple weeks behind the standard update. There is a Verizon specific version of each monthly release... You can see them all on the Google download page. Curious to see how it goes with Android O getting released Monday though... Might be a bigger delay there. We will see.
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Thanks guys. But is Verizon really keeping up with Google? Or do they drop one or two versions every some time...
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Sit down for this answer it will knock you off your feet.
They are actually a few hours ahead. Both Google and VZ release on the first Monday of the month late morning. But since VZ is east coast they start dropping sooner.
Also, Google makes the VZ versions so they are available for download from Googles dev site....same time as the plain Google version. And its all different on this phone, the VZ version just has some radio and network changes. There is no bloat in it. You actually get that from VZ when you put the VZ SIM in it. I got it on my Google version when I put the SIM in it.
And its not much, just the basics. MY Verizon, Visual Voicemail. That kind of stuff.
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Sit down for this answer it will knock you off your feet.
They are actually a few hours ahead. Both Google and VZ release on the first Monday of the month late morning. But since VZ is east coast they start dropping sooner.
Also, Google makes the VZ versions so they are available for download from Googles dev site....same time as the plain Google version. And its all different on this phone, the VZ version just has some radio and network changes. There is no bloat in it. You actually get that from VZ when you put the VZ SIM in it. I got it on my Google version when I put the SIM in it.
And its not much, just the basics. MY Verizon, Visual Voicemail. That kind of stuff.
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Good to know Can't wait to get mine on Monday.