Guys just a heads up I seem not to be able to find the app in the market with my TB, but on my Evo I can! Is Verizon starting to block certain apps now?
morrichad said:
Guys just a heads up I seem not to be able to find the app in the market with my TB, but on my Evo I can! Is Verizon starting to block certain apps now?
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Interesting seems barnacle is still up so just use that instead.
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Same here... I have it DL'd and have a titanium backup copy still so I'm good. I checked AppPlanet and it's in there still so you can grab it from there if you want it.
Its not available on the market anymore because Verizon is attempting to stop free wireless tethering. Check this link for a quick blog about it. Apparently AT&T has started warning its customers to stop tethering if not paying for it. Now it looks like Verizon is starting to follow along with AT&T.
Exactly the reason I also have a copy of the apk on my SD card.
the answer is yes, verizon blocks certain apps like tether apps and hotspot. ATT does the same thing. long live AOSP phones!!
google 'wireless tether for root' and you will find links to download it, straight from the developer(s)
I've noticed some other apps are missing as well. Notably I can't seem to find "Gensoid" the Sega Genesis emulator. Other Genesis emulators, and other *soid apps (i.e. nesoid) are present, but Gensoid (which I bought for my gTab) isn't present. I assume I can pull Gensoid from my gTab, but it's odd that it's missing and it's frustrating.
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I've noticed some other apps are missing as well. Notably I can't seem to find "Gensoid" the Sega Genesis emulator. Other Genesis emulators, and other *soid apps (i.e. nesoid) are present, but Gensoid (which I bought for my gTab) isn't present. I assume I can pull Gensoid from my gTab, but it's odd that it's missing and it's frustrating.
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Then its possible that was a malicious app as Google itself will take down apps they find malicious. No reason for Verizon to take it down.
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So, if Verizon can block you from downloading certain applications, can they see what applications you've already installed? I thought that information was between the End-User and Google, and not Verizon. Also, can they remote-wipe the application? If Google can remote-wipe, is there a way to disable that functionality if you're a rooted user? It kind of pisses me off that Verizon can have say over what I download from the Android Market.
On an otherwise off-topic note, what other App Stores are there (Amazon I know of) and are they safe/trustworthy to use?
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otherwise off-topic note, what other App Stores are there (Amazon I know of) and are they safe/trustworthy to use?
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AppBrain.com is a trustworthy site. Download here.
any1 wana post the apk??? the one from google projects doesnt look as clean as the one from the market.... http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list or maybe tell me what version it is???
ok well i downloaded a few and installed em and it looks like the market version was wireless_tether_2_0_7.apk
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Apparently AT&T has started warning its customers to stop tethering if not paying for it. Now it looks like Verizon is starting to follow along with AT&T.
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AT&T contacted me via SMS to let me know they were watching. I was utilizing TetherMe via Cydia. Was I being a data hog? No. I was using 3GB to 5GB of bandwidth on my unlimited plan. What was my usage prior to tethering. Still in that ball park.
When I called in to inquire (I played dumb), they explained that they knew I was tethering. The man on the other line was patient despite me asking stupid questions to try and throw him off. But I firmly believe that they are only after users on the Unlimited plan who are tethering.
They sent this SMS to me last week. In less than 4 days I switched carriers. Each time I called to get my number ported, the AT&T rep acting frantically wanted to know why. I was a 15yr customer. I just grinned to the Verizon rep.
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AT&T contacted me via SMS to let me know they were watching. I was utilizing TetherMe via Cydia. Was I being a data hog? No. I was using 3GB to 5GB of bandwidth on my unlimited plan. What was my usage prior to tethering. Still in that ball park.
When I called in to inquire (I played dumb), they explained that they knew I was tethering. The man on the other line was patient despite me asking stupid questions to try and throw him off. But I firmly believe that they are only after users on the Unlimited plan who are tethering.
They sent this SMS to me last week. In less than 4 days I switched carriers. Each time I called to get my number ported, the AT&T rep acting frantically wanted to know why. I was a 15yr customer. I just grinned to the Verizon rep.
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i hate at&t with a passion. nice switch.
G Tunes is down also
I switched too. Verizon is much better. Especially with the the grandfathers 4g.
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I switched last september, for a droid 2, but I knew AT&T were gonna be stingy with their "4g", so i made the early change, then got a friend to hook me up with an early upgrade to the tbolt, no looking back!
How on earth can they know that a user is tethering? The traffic sent to and from the data gateway should appear the same, shouldn't it?
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How on earth can they know that a user is tethering? The traffic sent to and from the data gateway should appear the same, shouldn't it?
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Theories have ranged from reading the headers to monitoring TTL.
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How on earth can they know that a user is tethering? The traffic sent to and from the data gateway should appear the same, shouldn't it?
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If it wasn't already obvious based on the type of traffic you are sending/receiving (craploads of torrents, p2p, etc), they could potentially verify source based on data packets sent/received.
Browsers generally send data that shows what they're running on as well through the user agent, though you can always change that.
Feel free to run a tcpdump on your phone with wireshark or something similar and just look around at what gets sent for yourself.
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So as we all might be aware of: Verizon has blocked all tethering apps from the Android Market...
I started this post to see your thoughts and ask this: does using a custom ROM let you access those apps from the market???
Or is there no way around this???
(I know about applanet BTW)
dannycarrasco8708 said:
So as we all might be aware of: Verizon has blocked all tethering apps from the Android Market...
I started this post to see your thoughts and ask this: does using a custom ROM let you access those apps from the market???
Or is there no way around this???
(I know about applanet BTW)
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No.
But you can still easily sideload apps.
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
Are most apps sideloadable???
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Are most apps sideloadable???
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You can sideload any .apk.
Is there a major site with all .apk's in it???
barnacle is still there
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Is there a major site with all .apk's in it???
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yes there are but that would be totally frowned upon for anyone to ask for or post links to warez site on xda due to the xda rules.....just a friendly fyi and be careful
Thanks for the FYI... I will keep that in mind
There are some Roms that come wirh wireless tether. Look at the Roms and kernel forum. I know I saw one but can't remember which one it was.
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In re: eliciting thoughts on the matter:
I don't think it's right for Verizon to be able to block any applications from the Market for any reason. If Google wants to remove malicious applications, that's one thing; but censoring our ability to download what we want just pisses me off.
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In re: eliciting thoughts on the matter:
I don't think it's right for Verizon to be able to block any applications from the Market for any reason. If Google wants to remove malicious applications, that's one thing; but censoring our ability to download what we want just pisses me off.
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I don't disagree, but get used to it. Google is going to be bending over for the carriers in order to push Android.
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In re: eliciting thoughts on the matter:
I don't think it's right for Verizon to be able to block any applications from the Market for any reason. If Google wants to remove malicious applications, that's one thing; but censoring our ability to download what we want just pisses me off.
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I think Verizon has the right to block apps that will allow or aid people in violating their Terms Of service (VZW's TOS for the smart phone data plan says it doesn't cover tethering, if you want to tether you must purchase a tethering plan)
and before anyone starts... there are MANY MANY other threads already discussing tethering without paying for it, "data is data", its right/wrong, etc...
Now, once VZW switches to tiered data plans with caps and overages, then I see no reason for them to disallow these type of apps, and still have that clause in their TOS... because at that point, if you use enough data to go over your tier's limit, you're gonna pay for it anyway...
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I think Verizon has the right to block apps that will allow or aid people in violating their Terms Of service (VZW's TOS for the smart phone data plan says it doesn't cover tethering, if you want to tether you must purchase a tethering plan)
and before anyone starts... there are MANY MANY other threads already discussing tethering without paying for it, "data is data", its right/wrong, etc...
Now, once VZW switches to tiered data plans with caps and overages, then I see no reason for them to disallow these type of apps, and still have that clause in their TOS... because at that point, if you use enough data to go over your tier's limit, you're gonna pay for it anyway...
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Their idea of a reasonable cap rates are crazy.... Until they offer a reasonably priced unlimited plan I will continue to use data at the same rate my phone will anyway, just on a larger screen....
I like Verizon, been using them over 10 years, they suck now, they bully their customers around too much anymore just because they are big red... Its a shame they are still the best company out there.
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From Android Central:
Update: As several have mentioned, it's quite possible to keep carriers from meddling with your Android Market experience. If you have an AT&T phone, you can pop the SIM card out and use Wifi to browse the Market; and enabling Airplane Mode, then turning on Wifi works for both AT&T and Verizon phones.
So if you turn on Airplane Mode and use the Market with a Wifi connection, all the apps should be there ready to download and install.
It's not just verizon wanting applications removed:
So why was Gensoid taken down? According to the developer, it was at the request of Sega. They must have contacted Google and gotten the emulator taken off the market. What exactly Sega claimed in order to take it down isn't know as Google usually isn't forthcoming with details, just general overviews, when asked. The next question is, why now?
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http://www.droidgamers.com/index.ph...-yongzh-gensoid-is-no-more-at-least-right-now
Is barnacle good? Or is it worth it to try and find the apk for other apps?
baffula said:
Is barnacle good? Or is it worth it to try and find the apk for other apps?
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My only problem with barnacle is that is only does WEP whereas the mobile hotspot does WPA.
We can still use the default wifi app. Other than that I wouldn't tether for a while until we know what verizon plans on doing. I wouldnt be surprised to see them take a big stance against tethering as it weighs down the network.
Remember people verizon is also a home internet service provider so when you tether and disband you're home isp verizon is losing out on both tethering and money from internet service providing.
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From Android Central:
So if you turn on Airplane Mode and use the Market with a Wifi connection, all the apps should be there ready to download and install.
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This didn't work on my phone. Airplane mode shuts down wifi connection also.
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This didn't work on my phone. Airplane mode shuts down wifi connection also.
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Enable airplane mode then wifi. Worked for me!
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Granted there are glaring inaccuracies in this article, but the woman who was blocked was using a droid X. Anyone seen this yet on their phones?
http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/verizon_blocks_hotspot_tethering_for_jailbroken_de.php
I laughed reading this article. We've had people here using 40+ gb and weren't moved. I have no worries with mine.
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The fact that they use the word jailbroken throughout the entire article throws it credibility out the window for me.
I have ginger bread and tether with wireless tether app beta 3.2 works perfect and full speed
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Verizon knows if you're tethering or not. So far they haven't chosen to do anything about it, but if you read your contract (actually read it) you'll see that they can really screw you if they want to, and you'll get no reach around...
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Verizon knows if you're tethering or not. So far they haven't chosen to do anything about it, but if you read your contract (actually read it) you'll see that they can really screw you if they want to, and you'll get no reach around...
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Exactly, my reason for posting this was to see if anyone had started getting screwed....
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Verizon knows if you're tethering or not. So far they haven't chosen to do anything about it, but if you read your contract (actually read it) you'll see that they can really screw you if they want to, and you'll get no reach around...
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How do they know?
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How do they know?
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They can monitor from software in the Android OS built into the stock VZW rom and sometimes watching the network traffic can point to good clues also
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They can monitor from software in the Android OS built into the stock VZW rom and sometimes watching the network traffic can point to good clues also
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So, that means if we are using a custom rom then they can only know by watching network traffic?
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They can monitor from software in the Android OS built into the stock VZW rom and sometimes watching the network traffic can point to good clues also
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Is it even legal for them to monitor your phone in such a way? The ROM bit, that is.
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VZW knows because I doubt that your phone has IE to browse the web, or Safari for that matter, and other such things can tell them quite easily if you are tethering or not, disregarding the amount of data transferred. Add in the amount of data transferred, and you kind of stick out like a sore thumb when you're tethering.
Also, the hotspot monitoring stuff on the phone doesn't do anything besides watch to see if you are tethering illegally or not, so I'm pretty sure that if you did try to press the legality point of view, they'd come back and dig into whether or not you were tethering, cause odds are, if you are bringing up this point, it is for a reason.
I came from the Droid X and with the GB update and the baseband update they can now tell if you are tethering. Verizon warned the devs and the devs took notice for the moto roms. Those devs no longer provide nor will endorse root tethering apps. There was something about liability issues so the devs are abiding by Verizon's wishes. They are telling all that if you want to tether, pay the monthly fee for the service. Therefore; when the Charge gets the official GB update with baseband, tether at your own risk if you are not paying for it.
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IMNUTS is correct. When you are using a tethering app, your data packets are preceeded with a special code that identifies that packet as being tethered. Verizon is now monitoring these. Black Hat had a hack that yoy could change that code, but they removed that a long time ago for obvious reasons. They now suggest not using it and just pay the money for tethering. This is why devs are no longer including the root tethering apps to give free tethering with their roms anymore. Too much risk to them personally for something that most do for fun.
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VZ most definitely can tell when you are tethering, though by using custom roms/kernels and using disguised tethering apps it just makes it less obvious... I doubt they're really gonna care tbh unless you're hitting some ridiculous number like say 30+ gigs a month, cuz seriously just using the phone normally it shouldn't be that high. From there they can choose to throttle your data speeds or drop your unlimited data plan altogether... also there is no way around this as they block/slow data server-side so its under their control
tl;dr they can almost 100% tell you're tethering and might take action, but probably won't unless you're retarded and pulling in a hundred gigs a month in PHONE data
I only tether when I'm on business or somewhere for a while that doesn't have wifi. So I use less than 2g of data a month. I doubt they'd hunt me down, some of these people who tether 15+ gigs a month may have issues soon.
nobody happen to read the pdf posted in the comments of that site? Apparently Verizon cannot restrict you of downloading a tether program and using the data as such. When Verizon purchased the 700mhz spectrum for their LTE service they agreed they would not " deny, limit, or restrict the ability of
[its] customers to use the devices and applications of their choice". To me that sounds like Verizon is stepping outside their rights... However we end users agreeing to their terms and services might negate that all together.
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Is it even legal for them to monitor your phone in such a way? The ROM bit, that is.
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when you blindly sign a contract they can generally do as they please, you have a choice but the alternative is to not have a cell phone :/
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nobody happen to read the pdf posted in the comments of that site? Apparently Verizon cannot restrict you of downloading a tether program and using the data as such. When Verizon purchased the 700mhz spectrum for their LTE service they agreed they would not " deny, limit, or restrict the ability of
[its] customers to use the devices and applications of their choice". To me that sounds like Verizon is stepping outside their rights... However we end users agreeing to their terms and services might negate that all together.
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this goes back to the contract as well you can use whatever program you want but when it comes to using their network its their rules
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when you blindly sign a contract they can generally do as they please, you have a choice but the alternative is to not have a cell phone :/
this goes back to the contract as well you can use whatever program you want but when it comes to using their network its their rules
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true, but fact is they are not following their agreement to the company they purchased the service from. Also, in verizon's contract they state if they change their service in anyway that has a negative impact on your account\service you are free to opt out of their contract free of charge (so I read back when tier data was being set forth). That being said blocking tethering might be a plausible reason for early termination of contract, legally.
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when you blindly sign a contract they can generally do as they please, you have a choice but the alternative is to not have a cell phone :/
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Not necessarily... The contract's terms still have to be legal, and their conduct regarding that contract has to be legal.
If you sign a contract to kill someone wanting to commit suicide and you follow through with it, you are still lawfully going to be tried for murder.
Verizon is still subject to privacy laws, regardless of what the contract says. I think even if they know you are tethering, which at this point seems more like an educated guess, I don't know if they can really be too audacious with reprimanding people. There's a whole mess of legal implications stemming from the aforementioned agreement when they purchased that spectrum that I think they're not willing to taunt just yet, if ever.
There is a kernel module that is in the code that specifies tethering or not. You can't use wifi without the module, as I already tried. There is a by-pass that is being used on the Fascinate, but we haven't had any confirmation about whether it works or not, and I'm not going to go through the trouble of implementing an un-proven work around just so people can tether illegally. If you want to tether, take the risk of getting caught, or pay $30.
I hope in not posting in the wrong part of this forum but I was freaked out today at the tmobile store. It all starts last night when I goggle map searched "bar and grill" and later searched on browser "screen names" looking for screen name ideas. So, this morning my wife and I go to tmobile to pay our bill. The clerk in an attempt to talk to my wife says "so did you find a good screen name last night? " She had no idea what he was talking about. Then he asks "how was the bar and grill? " I was immediately angry. I know there was recent proof carriers collect our data, but not only does tmobile collect logs of most things we do on our phones, the make it available to any ass working in a tmobile store! I would v believed it was that bad without seeing it for myself. I told him to give me a print out of that info he was reading but he refused. So now I'm on an AOSP BUILD. The rom I was using before was weapon btw. Why is spyware in custom roms? Does anyone work at tmobile that can confirm this? Are AOSP builds the only way to combat this? I can't believe any asshole at a tmobile store can just punch in a number and see everything we do on our phones!
I'd love to know what you guys think. Similar experiences?
Wow, I'm shocked. I know they collect data but it shouldn't be available to anyone. What rom are you using?
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I'm going to speak to an attorney friend of mine but i do believe that is extremely illegal.
Did your rep had your phone? Cause if he did, he could have been going through the search history. Either way he shouldn't be going through them.
Dang, that's real bs. I would definately seek legal action.
Well, I would assume all carriers log all data accessed (via mobile data connection at least) to supply to the gov't for profiling and legal purposes. But allowing Joe Schmoe at the store access to it is definitely a violation of your privacy. The contract probably allows them to monitor your activity but that's a bit of an overshare if you ask me.
Well you can always get check and or get rid of the Carrier IQ thing that tracks your information.
You need a rooted phone to do so and then go here to download the app because it is not on the android market.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17612559&postcount=110
*Note: do a backup of your phone before you do this just incase. I haven't checked if its on our phones just yet but more than likely it probably is.
**Update: Having trouble with the app on my g2x with stock rom/faux froyo kernel.05. It keeps giving an "Error copying Busybox" so the App won't update to the pro version that you need. Waiting for Dev response
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I hope in not posting in the wrong part of this forum but I was freaked out today at the tmobile store. It all starts last night when I goggle map searched "bar and grill" and later searched on browser "screen names" looking for screen name ideas. So, this morning my wife and I go to tmobile to pay our bill. The clerk in an attempt to talk to my wife says "so did you find a good screen name last night? " She had no idea what he was talking about. Then he asks "how was the bar and grill? " I was immediately angry. I know there was recent proof carriers collect our data, but not only does tmobile collect logs of most things we do on our phones, the make it available to any ass working in a tmobile store! I would v believed it was that bad without seeing it for myself. I told him to give me a print out of that info he was reading but he refused. So now I'm on an AOSP BUILD. The rom I was using before was weapon btw. Why is spyware in custom roms? Does anyone work at tmobile that can confirm this? Are AOSP builds the only way to combat this? I can't believe any asshole at a tmobile store can just punch in a number and see everything we do on our phones!
I'd love to know what you guys think. Similar experiences?
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I have serious doubts about the legitimacy of this story especially given the fact you we're already on a custom rom.
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I have serious doubts about the legitimacy of this story especially given the fact you we're already on a custom rom.
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This story is BS. Store employees do not have access to that kind of data. Almost no one within T-Mobile could get anywhere near that kind of data even if they did record any of it. Also, none of the official G2x firmwares carry CIQ.
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Works fine for me using jboxers 2.3.4 rom says no ciq found
fabricatedhero said:
Well you can always get check and or get rid of the Carrier IQ thing that tracks your information.
You need a rooted phone to do so and then go here to download the app because it is not on the android market.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17612559&postcount=110
*Note: do a backup of your phone before you do this just incase. I haven't checked if its on our phones just yet but more than likely it probably is.
**Update: Having trouble with the app on my g2x with stock rom/faux froyo kernel.05. It keeps giving an "Error copying Busybox" so the App won't update to the pro version that you need. Waiting for Dev response
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Works fine for me using jboxers 2.3.4 rom says no ciq found
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Best I can tell, that's one of the option boxes Tracfone didn't click
Oh, and OP: cool story 'bro.... thanks for the laugh.
come on guys... this is complete BS, plus, look at OP's screen name!
im gonna send this to a friend of mine that works with tmobile. and if its true. well i would like to know more about how am i be able to see all this data. !!
I don't think a lot of you see how severe this issue is. I went to T-Mobile as well and they told me, "Been trying to get that high score on Robot Unicorn Attack, huh?" /s
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they dont know about updates. they dont know how much ram is in your phone, they have to ask you how to use the phone. but they know where you searched.
*********************i guess im about +7 on BS.
Regular Sales Reps or even Mgrs shouldn't have any access to that kind of information. None of the systems they use can dig that deep. They can see details about minutes, texts and your bill items, etc. but thats about the extent of it. Especially through CAM, Watson or Quickview. Although I would be surprised if the network engineers couldn't get that data if they were high up enough. The carrier iq thing isn't much of a surprise to me.
Weapon is based on the stock 2.3.3 rom so the OP is plausible, not probable, but certainly not busted. It has just been enhanced but most of it is stock TMO rom.
But I do think the OP is pure BS. That type of data would not be available at the store level and an employee who revealed such info would be subject to immediate termination.
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Weapon is based on the stock 2.3.3 rom so the OP is plausible, not probable, but certainly not busted. It has just been enhanced but most of it is stock TMO rom.
But I do think the OP is pure BS. That type of data would not be available at the store level and an employee who revealed such info would be subject to immediate termination.
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No firmware for the G2x has CIQ within.
I got the "tethering function blocked" text message from T-mobile yesterday. This is the first time I have seen this and I did STFA before randomly posting. Now true this is the first time I have done tethering on the upgraded Gingerbread OS (currently running the rooted GB Weapon 3.0 ROM) all previous times I tethered were on the Rooted Froyo OS. I also noticed that after receiving this text message when I tried to use the internet browser on the device tethered to the phone I was directed to a T-mobile page stating that tethering was blocked and if I wanted it, it was an additional $15USD monthly cost.
Yes it appears that all the provider's (US= ATT, Tmbl, VW, Sprint) are now actively clamping down on devices tethering without a tethering plan included (probably hitting the large Metro-areas first -- I was in Houston when it happened = #4 largest), how exactly they know it is happening, I don't know.
I have seen where others have made comments about this but they were at or above the 2GB monthly limit. When I got this message from T-mobile I had used 400 megs of my 2GB allotment for the month, so I was nowhere near the cap.
Anybody know exactly how T-mobile is blocking this feature on rooted phones?? is it done on the T-mobile servers, does it send some data packet that alters files in the Android OS or does it alter the SIM chip files???
Has something changed in the Android OS (some sort of tattle-tale) or does T-Mobile have some new capability that can "sniff out" whether or not you are using the tethering option on your phone without enrolling in there "enable tethering capability" feature for a mere $15USD monthly of extortion? Say what you will, but I do not see where I should have to pay extra to tether a device to my data plan if I am below my allotted data usage per month, and no I have never exceeded the 2GB limit during my contract.
I saw a post about EasyTether, which says that it has a way to mask its operation (utilizing the same ports as the cell phone does for data ?????) so that the carrier cannot tell that the tethering option is being utilized. But it appears that it only works for USB, not for WiFi. For me tethering is about 50/50 -- for PC's I use the USB, for my tablets I use WiFi. So is there an app, driver, etc that works for both, or a way I can apply an update, edit a file, etc. to get the USB and WiFi tethering option to function properly without T-Mobile trying to extort me for more money every month??
I have seen the links that say to change (or use add-ins that will change) the web browser user strings, and did not find a consensus that this truly works.
I found links that mention freezing the Tethering Manager App (do search for -- How to Get Free Wifi Tether on Rooted T-Mobile Galaxy S2 on youtube and you can see the clip), which I would try if I could find the App. I have refreshed the Apps list in Titanium Backup and searched for a reference to this App (is it possibly named something different for the G2x running a Froyo or Gingerbread based ROM?) and no luck, I did not find it in either ROM so at this point I am not sure what to do.
any help on this subject is appreciated
I'm not quite sure why T-Mobile would be doing that, especially when you didn't go over your limit.
My suggestion would be to just use a 3rd party wifi tethering app.
I personally use the Wifi tethering app from opengarden. Since your phone is rooted you can use it. It also doesn't use any of your 2gb, so you shouldn't have a problem with tethering anymore.
Hope I helped!
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Tmo has told me in the past they'll eventually catch up to you
and start charging for it.
I don't think they can possibly track it from a 3rd party application that requires root.
In fact I'm sure they can't, they can only track how much data you are using. They may be able to track the tether built into the phone, but especially not a 3rd party application that requires root.
I have been using Open garden's wifi tether, and never had problems from T-Mobile.
Give the open garden wifi tether a try, if your g2x is rooted. I'm pretty sure that they cannot track it, and it also doesn't use any of your allowed 2gb since its a root required app.
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Simply not true. There are many different ways to monitor for tethering based on the packets. TTL and user agent would be the easiest to implement.
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I don't think they can possibly track it from a 3rd party application that requires root.
In fact I'm sure they can't, they can only track how much data you are using. They may be able to track the tether built into the phone, but especially not a 3rd party application that requires root.
I have been using Open garden's wifi tether, and never had problems from T-Mobile.
Give the open garden wifi tether a try, if your g2x is rooted. I'm pretty sure that they cannot track it, and it also doesn't use any of your allowed 2gb since its a root required app.
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iCraft said:
It also doesn't use any of your 2gb, so you shouldn't have a problem with tethering anymore.
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Not true. Data usage, weather it's tethering or mobile usage still counts against your monthly cap.
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Yeah, if you have the tethering option marked in your phone, they will catch up to you. I use easy tether with the tethering option unmarked.
Hence the fact I almost forgot I have unlimited data...my bad folks.
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Hence the fact I almost forgot I have unlimited data...my bad folks.
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We all have "unlimited" data. You just get throttled over 2 or 5 GB.
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I got 10GB. 5 is not enough for me. I hate getting throttled.
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dw9906 said:
I got 10GB. 5 is not enough for me. I hate getting throttled.
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How much extra is 10 GB?
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iCraft said:
I don't think they can possibly track it from a 3rd party application that requires root.
In fact I'm sure they can't, they can only track how much data you are using. They may be able to track the tether built into the phone, but especially not a 3rd party application that requires root.
I have been using Open garden's wifi tether, and never had problems from T-Mobile.
Give the open garden wifi tether a try, if your g2x is rooted. I'm pretty sure that they cannot track it, and it also doesn't use any of your allowed 2gb since its a root required app.
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Thanks for the information on the open garden app. I was hoping for a single app that would work for both USB and WiFi tethering but it is not looking good, so in the mean time I guess I will just have to use separate apps for use on PCs and Tablets.
as for the data usage, I don't see how an app could bypass ticking the data packet counter as files are downloaded, I am sure it counts any data packets being pulled down or pushed up from the cell connection. If not - I am sure any wireless provider would be scrambling to close that loop hole as quickly as possible.
The only way they can track it is by putting it into the o.s. build. I have NEVER seen that messgae and i live in atlanta. I tether my phone EVERYDAY to my laptop when i have to download certain files for work. I have been tethering for about a year and a half now.
use different browser. This happenned to me one day while using firefox, i switch to google chrome, i'm back on business. Dont know why thou.
I just tried barnacle wifi and it worked for me with no problems. Is it only the wired tether (pdaNet) having this issue?
Maby it's a CARRIER IQ telling on you!!! LOL
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Been using barnacle wifi tether works good no issues
I have the sgs2 and it was blocked from the start. I would guess that with this newest horse**** update they rolled out for the g2x they included the files to block tethering. But all you need to do is root the phone install titanium backup pro and look for a file called tethering manager and freeze it then you can go back to tethering for free. But make sure you freeze it DO NOT DELETE IT!!! I heard a few people say when they deleted it it f***ed up the phone
I don't know if that is definitely the solution but give it a try and report back please.
Charlie
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I have the sgs2 and it was blocked from the start. I would guess that with this newest horse**** update they rolled out for the g2x they included the files to block tethering. But all you need to do is root the phone install titanium backup pro and look for a file called tethering manager and freeze it then you can go back to tethering for free. But make sure you freeze it DO NOT DELETE IT!!! I heard a few people say when they deleted it it f***ed up the phone
I don't know if that is definitely the solution but give it a try and report back please.
Charlie
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The G2x was rooted 2 weeks after I got it when it had Froyo. It is currently on Weapon3.0 and it is rooted now as well. I hunted around for the "tethering manager.apk" file(s), and I was unable to locate any reference to it. I do have root access enabled and I have also enabled the "view hidden files" in the file manager and I still did not find any tethering manager file(s)
Please look at my post regarding T-mobile tethering
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26649587#post26649587
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/07/31/droid-charge-receiving-minor-update-to-fp5/
Only weighs in at 19.3MB using the old changelog but if you check out Verizon's document it says it's 29.30 MB.
From RW:
Corrected Issues:
1) A software change was made to support the latest requirement for eHRPD to HRPD fallback
2) A software change was made to support the latest requirement for IPV6 in EHRPD
3) A software change was made to address an issue causing a audio screeching sound to be heard when users have an active application playing in the back ground and you receive and answer an incoming call
4) A software change was made to address an issue that was causing a continuous noise or notification tone to be heard that started during a phone power up and would not stop until you pulled down the status bar in some rare cases
5) A software change was made to the calculations used for determining what is displayed to better reflect the signal available.
6) A software change was made to address an issue causing the device to drop down to 3G service earlier then it should in some cases
7) A software change was made to address an issue causing devices to show no signal and roaming when a specific PRL file (I5103) is loaded on the device
*sigh*
One of the notes is that USB tethering is Disabled when on WiFi, under the updated system. Has anyone determined if the WiFi thethering hotspot hacks will still work?
I wonder if we'll get a pbj for this since he sold his charge and all.
Also the fcc just ruled that vzw isn't allowed to block tethering and in the release notes they say that they removed the "upgrade to tethering" button in mobile hotspot.
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*sigh*
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I totally feel your pain...
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any idea when this is going to roll out?
Before the rezound gets ics.
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Before the rezound gets ics.
Military grade i-510
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Maybe before official ICS, but we have leaks and we have AOSP.
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Also the fcc just ruled that vzw isn't allowed to block tethering
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Note that it only applies to tiered data plans. They're still well within their rights to block tethering for those with unlimited plans.
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Note that it only applies to tiered data plans. They're still well within their rights to block tethering for those with unlimited plans.
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Yeah I guess they would try anything to get people off unlimited...
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My layman's reading was that it applied to everyone, but the main point was that they could not try to block 3rd party tethering apps anymore. Could explain why WiFi Tether showed up in the Market. From my reading the tiered vs. unlimited point was mainly used by Verizon as a defense.
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My layman's reading was that it applied to everyone, but the main point was that they could not try to block 3rd party tethering apps anymore. Could explain why WiFi Tether showed up in the Market. From my reading the tiered vs. unlimited point was mainly used by Verizon as a defense.
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My using the term "block" was incorrect. Essentially, they can still charge the tethering fee to those on unlimited plans...
In addition, the company recently revised its service offerings such that consumers on usage-based
pricing plans may tether, using any application, without paying an additional fee.
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The FCC had no problem with that: Source
All i care to see is the "new ui"
So this will probably hit this time next week?!
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So this will probably hit this time next week?!
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Since its been approved... The answer is... It depends.
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Hopefully this little update hits today
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http://www.droid-life.com/2012/08/10/droid-charge-update-to-fp5-finally-ready/
So, since this is the second time its been posted... should we expect this next week sometime?!
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I keep thinking I'm going to get a new phone as soon as I can. Dwitherell is doing a great job on developing roms but Imnuts is not doing kernels for the charge any more. Development for the Charge is almost at a standstill. I'm not excited about FP5 at all. I'm never going to run stock software in a smart phone. There's just way too much bloatware.
So? Root it and remove the bloatware. I haven't installed DW's rom because my phone is critical for work and I spend too much time at work and commuting to deal with any extra issues. But I've got to say that it's been damn hard not too bite the bullet and flash it. I know it's awesome.
I've debloated it and added extended battery. 4g coverage is good and don't need gps. Yeah, we'll never see ICS or JB on this phone but it works for those that don't have to suffer the squealing.
It's first generation 4g. I don't expect the world and my laptop can more than handle anything this phone can't.
Seriously - you can see the difference just rooted and debloated. Try it.
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talk to a VZW technician today, and he said the FP5 supposedly fixes the squealing and unblocks some websites that folks were having troubles with.