http://www.droid-life.com/2012/07/31/droid-charge-receiving-minor-update-to-fp5/
Only weighs in at 19.3MB using the old changelog but if you check out Verizon's document it says it's 29.30 MB.
From RW:
Corrected Issues:
1) A software change was made to support the latest requirement for eHRPD to HRPD fallback
2) A software change was made to support the latest requirement for IPV6 in EHRPD
3) A software change was made to address an issue causing a audio screeching sound to be heard when users have an active application playing in the back ground and you receive and answer an incoming call
4) A software change was made to address an issue that was causing a continuous noise or notification tone to be heard that started during a phone power up and would not stop until you pulled down the status bar in some rare cases
5) A software change was made to the calculations used for determining what is displayed to better reflect the signal available.
6) A software change was made to address an issue causing the device to drop down to 3G service earlier then it should in some cases
7) A software change was made to address an issue causing devices to show no signal and roaming when a specific PRL file (I5103) is loaded on the device
*sigh*
One of the notes is that USB tethering is Disabled when on WiFi, under the updated system. Has anyone determined if the WiFi thethering hotspot hacks will still work?
I wonder if we'll get a pbj for this since he sold his charge and all.
Also the fcc just ruled that vzw isn't allowed to block tethering and in the release notes they say that they removed the "upgrade to tethering" button in mobile hotspot.
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any idea when this is going to roll out?
Before the rezound gets ics.
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Before the rezound gets ics.
Military grade i-510
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Maybe before official ICS, but we have leaks and we have AOSP.
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Also the fcc just ruled that vzw isn't allowed to block tethering
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Note that it only applies to tiered data plans. They're still well within their rights to block tethering for those with unlimited plans.
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Note that it only applies to tiered data plans. They're still well within their rights to block tethering for those with unlimited plans.
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Yeah I guess they would try anything to get people off unlimited...
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My layman's reading was that it applied to everyone, but the main point was that they could not try to block 3rd party tethering apps anymore. Could explain why WiFi Tether showed up in the Market. From my reading the tiered vs. unlimited point was mainly used by Verizon as a defense.
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My layman's reading was that it applied to everyone, but the main point was that they could not try to block 3rd party tethering apps anymore. Could explain why WiFi Tether showed up in the Market. From my reading the tiered vs. unlimited point was mainly used by Verizon as a defense.
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My using the term "block" was incorrect. Essentially, they can still charge the tethering fee to those on unlimited plans...
In addition, the company recently revised its service offerings such that consumers on usage-based
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The FCC had no problem with that: Source
All i care to see is the "new ui"
So this will probably hit this time next week?!
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So this will probably hit this time next week?!
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Since its been approved... The answer is... It depends.
Military grade i-510
Hopefully this little update hits today
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http://www.droid-life.com/2012/08/10/droid-charge-update-to-fp5-finally-ready/
So, since this is the second time its been posted... should we expect this next week sometime?!
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I keep thinking I'm going to get a new phone as soon as I can. Dwitherell is doing a great job on developing roms but Imnuts is not doing kernels for the charge any more. Development for the Charge is almost at a standstill. I'm not excited about FP5 at all. I'm never going to run stock software in a smart phone. There's just way too much bloatware.
So? Root it and remove the bloatware. I haven't installed DW's rom because my phone is critical for work and I spend too much time at work and commuting to deal with any extra issues. But I've got to say that it's been damn hard not too bite the bullet and flash it. I know it's awesome.
I've debloated it and added extended battery. 4g coverage is good and don't need gps. Yeah, we'll never see ICS or JB on this phone but it works for those that don't have to suffer the squealing.
It's first generation 4g. I don't expect the world and my laptop can more than handle anything this phone can't.
Seriously - you can see the difference just rooted and debloated. Try it.
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talk to a VZW technician today, and he said the FP5 supposedly fixes the squealing and unblocks some websites that folks were having troubles with.
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Guys just a heads up I seem not to be able to find the app in the market with my TB, but on my Evo I can! Is Verizon starting to block certain apps now?
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Guys just a heads up I seem not to be able to find the app in the market with my TB, but on my Evo I can! Is Verizon starting to block certain apps now?
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Interesting seems barnacle is still up so just use that instead.
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Same here... I have it DL'd and have a titanium backup copy still so I'm good. I checked AppPlanet and it's in there still so you can grab it from there if you want it.
Its not available on the market anymore because Verizon is attempting to stop free wireless tethering. Check this link for a quick blog about it. Apparently AT&T has started warning its customers to stop tethering if not paying for it. Now it looks like Verizon is starting to follow along with AT&T.
Exactly the reason I also have a copy of the apk on my SD card.
the answer is yes, verizon blocks certain apps like tether apps and hotspot. ATT does the same thing. long live AOSP phones!!
google 'wireless tether for root' and you will find links to download it, straight from the developer(s)
I've noticed some other apps are missing as well. Notably I can't seem to find "Gensoid" the Sega Genesis emulator. Other Genesis emulators, and other *soid apps (i.e. nesoid) are present, but Gensoid (which I bought for my gTab) isn't present. I assume I can pull Gensoid from my gTab, but it's odd that it's missing and it's frustrating.
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I've noticed some other apps are missing as well. Notably I can't seem to find "Gensoid" the Sega Genesis emulator. Other Genesis emulators, and other *soid apps (i.e. nesoid) are present, but Gensoid (which I bought for my gTab) isn't present. I assume I can pull Gensoid from my gTab, but it's odd that it's missing and it's frustrating.
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Then its possible that was a malicious app as Google itself will take down apps they find malicious. No reason for Verizon to take it down.
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So, if Verizon can block you from downloading certain applications, can they see what applications you've already installed? I thought that information was between the End-User and Google, and not Verizon. Also, can they remote-wipe the application? If Google can remote-wipe, is there a way to disable that functionality if you're a rooted user? It kind of pisses me off that Verizon can have say over what I download from the Android Market.
On an otherwise off-topic note, what other App Stores are there (Amazon I know of) and are they safe/trustworthy to use?
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otherwise off-topic note, what other App Stores are there (Amazon I know of) and are they safe/trustworthy to use?
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AppBrain.com is a trustworthy site. Download here.
any1 wana post the apk??? the one from google projects doesnt look as clean as the one from the market.... http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list or maybe tell me what version it is???
ok well i downloaded a few and installed em and it looks like the market version was wireless_tether_2_0_7.apk
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Apparently AT&T has started warning its customers to stop tethering if not paying for it. Now it looks like Verizon is starting to follow along with AT&T.
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AT&T contacted me via SMS to let me know they were watching. I was utilizing TetherMe via Cydia. Was I being a data hog? No. I was using 3GB to 5GB of bandwidth on my unlimited plan. What was my usage prior to tethering. Still in that ball park.
When I called in to inquire (I played dumb), they explained that they knew I was tethering. The man on the other line was patient despite me asking stupid questions to try and throw him off. But I firmly believe that they are only after users on the Unlimited plan who are tethering.
They sent this SMS to me last week. In less than 4 days I switched carriers. Each time I called to get my number ported, the AT&T rep acting frantically wanted to know why. I was a 15yr customer. I just grinned to the Verizon rep.
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AT&T contacted me via SMS to let me know they were watching. I was utilizing TetherMe via Cydia. Was I being a data hog? No. I was using 3GB to 5GB of bandwidth on my unlimited plan. What was my usage prior to tethering. Still in that ball park.
When I called in to inquire (I played dumb), they explained that they knew I was tethering. The man on the other line was patient despite me asking stupid questions to try and throw him off. But I firmly believe that they are only after users on the Unlimited plan who are tethering.
They sent this SMS to me last week. In less than 4 days I switched carriers. Each time I called to get my number ported, the AT&T rep acting frantically wanted to know why. I was a 15yr customer. I just grinned to the Verizon rep.
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i hate at&t with a passion. nice switch.
G Tunes is down also
I switched too. Verizon is much better. Especially with the the grandfathers 4g.
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I switched last september, for a droid 2, but I knew AT&T were gonna be stingy with their "4g", so i made the early change, then got a friend to hook me up with an early upgrade to the tbolt, no looking back!
How on earth can they know that a user is tethering? The traffic sent to and from the data gateway should appear the same, shouldn't it?
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How on earth can they know that a user is tethering? The traffic sent to and from the data gateway should appear the same, shouldn't it?
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Theories have ranged from reading the headers to monitoring TTL.
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How on earth can they know that a user is tethering? The traffic sent to and from the data gateway should appear the same, shouldn't it?
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If it wasn't already obvious based on the type of traffic you are sending/receiving (craploads of torrents, p2p, etc), they could potentially verify source based on data packets sent/received.
Browsers generally send data that shows what they're running on as well through the user agent, though you can always change that.
Feel free to run a tcpdump on your phone with wireshark or something similar and just look around at what gets sent for yourself.
Granted there are glaring inaccuracies in this article, but the woman who was blocked was using a droid X. Anyone seen this yet on their phones?
http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/verizon_blocks_hotspot_tethering_for_jailbroken_de.php
I laughed reading this article. We've had people here using 40+ gb and weren't moved. I have no worries with mine.
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The fact that they use the word jailbroken throughout the entire article throws it credibility out the window for me.
I have ginger bread and tether with wireless tether app beta 3.2 works perfect and full speed
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Verizon knows if you're tethering or not. So far they haven't chosen to do anything about it, but if you read your contract (actually read it) you'll see that they can really screw you if they want to, and you'll get no reach around...
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Verizon knows if you're tethering or not. So far they haven't chosen to do anything about it, but if you read your contract (actually read it) you'll see that they can really screw you if they want to, and you'll get no reach around...
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Exactly, my reason for posting this was to see if anyone had started getting screwed....
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Verizon knows if you're tethering or not. So far they haven't chosen to do anything about it, but if you read your contract (actually read it) you'll see that they can really screw you if they want to, and you'll get no reach around...
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How do they know?
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How do they know?
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They can monitor from software in the Android OS built into the stock VZW rom and sometimes watching the network traffic can point to good clues also
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They can monitor from software in the Android OS built into the stock VZW rom and sometimes watching the network traffic can point to good clues also
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So, that means if we are using a custom rom then they can only know by watching network traffic?
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They can monitor from software in the Android OS built into the stock VZW rom and sometimes watching the network traffic can point to good clues also
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Is it even legal for them to monitor your phone in such a way? The ROM bit, that is.
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VZW knows because I doubt that your phone has IE to browse the web, or Safari for that matter, and other such things can tell them quite easily if you are tethering or not, disregarding the amount of data transferred. Add in the amount of data transferred, and you kind of stick out like a sore thumb when you're tethering.
Also, the hotspot monitoring stuff on the phone doesn't do anything besides watch to see if you are tethering illegally or not, so I'm pretty sure that if you did try to press the legality point of view, they'd come back and dig into whether or not you were tethering, cause odds are, if you are bringing up this point, it is for a reason.
I came from the Droid X and with the GB update and the baseband update they can now tell if you are tethering. Verizon warned the devs and the devs took notice for the moto roms. Those devs no longer provide nor will endorse root tethering apps. There was something about liability issues so the devs are abiding by Verizon's wishes. They are telling all that if you want to tether, pay the monthly fee for the service. Therefore; when the Charge gets the official GB update with baseband, tether at your own risk if you are not paying for it.
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IMNUTS is correct. When you are using a tethering app, your data packets are preceeded with a special code that identifies that packet as being tethered. Verizon is now monitoring these. Black Hat had a hack that yoy could change that code, but they removed that a long time ago for obvious reasons. They now suggest not using it and just pay the money for tethering. This is why devs are no longer including the root tethering apps to give free tethering with their roms anymore. Too much risk to them personally for something that most do for fun.
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VZ most definitely can tell when you are tethering, though by using custom roms/kernels and using disguised tethering apps it just makes it less obvious... I doubt they're really gonna care tbh unless you're hitting some ridiculous number like say 30+ gigs a month, cuz seriously just using the phone normally it shouldn't be that high. From there they can choose to throttle your data speeds or drop your unlimited data plan altogether... also there is no way around this as they block/slow data server-side so its under their control
tl;dr they can almost 100% tell you're tethering and might take action, but probably won't unless you're retarded and pulling in a hundred gigs a month in PHONE data
I only tether when I'm on business or somewhere for a while that doesn't have wifi. So I use less than 2g of data a month. I doubt they'd hunt me down, some of these people who tether 15+ gigs a month may have issues soon.
nobody happen to read the pdf posted in the comments of that site? Apparently Verizon cannot restrict you of downloading a tether program and using the data as such. When Verizon purchased the 700mhz spectrum for their LTE service they agreed they would not " deny, limit, or restrict the ability of
[its] customers to use the devices and applications of their choice". To me that sounds like Verizon is stepping outside their rights... However we end users agreeing to their terms and services might negate that all together.
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Is it even legal for them to monitor your phone in such a way? The ROM bit, that is.
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when you blindly sign a contract they can generally do as they please, you have a choice but the alternative is to not have a cell phone :/
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nobody happen to read the pdf posted in the comments of that site? Apparently Verizon cannot restrict you of downloading a tether program and using the data as such. When Verizon purchased the 700mhz spectrum for their LTE service they agreed they would not " deny, limit, or restrict the ability of
[its] customers to use the devices and applications of their choice". To me that sounds like Verizon is stepping outside their rights... However we end users agreeing to their terms and services might negate that all together.
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this goes back to the contract as well you can use whatever program you want but when it comes to using their network its their rules
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when you blindly sign a contract they can generally do as they please, you have a choice but the alternative is to not have a cell phone :/
this goes back to the contract as well you can use whatever program you want but when it comes to using their network its their rules
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true, but fact is they are not following their agreement to the company they purchased the service from. Also, in verizon's contract they state if they change their service in anyway that has a negative impact on your account\service you are free to opt out of their contract free of charge (so I read back when tier data was being set forth). That being said blocking tethering might be a plausible reason for early termination of contract, legally.
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when you blindly sign a contract they can generally do as they please, you have a choice but the alternative is to not have a cell phone :/
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Not necessarily... The contract's terms still have to be legal, and their conduct regarding that contract has to be legal.
If you sign a contract to kill someone wanting to commit suicide and you follow through with it, you are still lawfully going to be tried for murder.
Verizon is still subject to privacy laws, regardless of what the contract says. I think even if they know you are tethering, which at this point seems more like an educated guess, I don't know if they can really be too audacious with reprimanding people. There's a whole mess of legal implications stemming from the aforementioned agreement when they purchased that spectrum that I think they're not willing to taunt just yet, if ever.
There is a kernel module that is in the code that specifies tethering or not. You can't use wifi without the module, as I already tried. There is a by-pass that is being used on the Fascinate, but we haven't had any confirmation about whether it works or not, and I'm not going to go through the trouble of implementing an un-proven work around just so people can tether illegally. If you want to tether, take the risk of getting caught, or pay $30.
Okay so they are planning on slowing you down once you reach a certain limit they set with their biggest package 4GB I would guess its around that point, how are they going to trottle everyone's speed down to a crawl? Is it going to be like they trottled everyone's speed up in the past VIA software updates? Anyway just curious what you all think and hopefully there's away to not be stuck in a rut on this one, I do a lot of streaming, and multiplayer gaming on my phone...
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Okay so they are planning on slowing you down once you reach a certain limit they set with their biggest package 4GB I would guess its around that point, how are they going to trottle everyone's speed down to a crawl? Is it going to be like they trottled everyone's speed up in the past VIA software updates? Anyway just curious what you all think and hopefully there's away to not be stuck in a rut on this one, I do a lot of streaming, and multiplayer gaming on my phone...
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I have the 30 dollar unlimited plan and i'm using 5-6GB a month and i seem to be fine. But i cant imagine what other people are using.
It's not in effect yet, I do between 6 and 16 depending on if I'm downloading new roms and stuff too, but its suppose to be effective soon.
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According to the post on ATT Website, they are putting it into effect on October 1st.
Secondaly, they are only capping the extreme few that are using CRAZY amounts of data, and taht number was WAY WAY above 4g data.
I spoke to a friend at ATT and he stated that currently the cap was at 10gigs. Now, that could change but who knows.
The data throttling is not being done VIA software and such but instead a change to your plan. All ATT phones are tracked via IMEI numbers and thus the way they know who has what number and what data/messaging packages. All they are doing is making a change to your plan that will only allow you to access the EDGE network.
I can see this possibly being bypassed but will have to wait till the change hits to see what can be done to bypass this.
What dept does your friend work in? Mine read about what's going on when and stuff but they didn't give him exact info like how or what the limit was. Edge don't even work when I try so that wouldnt be right because it takes 5 minutes to load a Facebook status.. anyway whatever happens I hope the limit is a bit higher then 10 sometimes I hit 16 and I don't do mobile hotspots, and i connect to WiFi at home. Let's hope for a work around if so!
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I miss having wifi at my work. I use my wireless at home. My '4G' is pretty fast at my house though (4-5mbps).
Wow i'm dreading this I drive a truck for a living and use the wifi tether allot to play my x-box. This is going to hurt hope someone finds a work around!
P.M. please lift this 5 minute post restriction!
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Playing xbox? Wow! I have tried before and never get a good connection.
It depends allot on the host I connect to on black ops and where I am
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No offense but its people like you is the reason why tethering has been such a huge issue. Tethering (if you are not paying for it) should only be used for necessity or minor things like checking your email, post a Facebook status message, or upload a photo, so that you are not abusing the feature and bogging down the network/tower you are connected to.
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Wow i'm dreading this I drive a truck for a living and use the wifi tether allot to play my x-box. This is going to hurt hope someone finds a work around!
P.M. please lift this 5 minute post restriction!
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No offense but its people like you is the reason why tethering has been such a huge issue. Tethering (if you are not paying for it) should only be used for necessity or minor things like checking your email, post a Facebook status message, or upload a photo, so that you are not abusing the feature and bogging down the network/tower you are connected to.
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+1 on that one. Won't be long though. All carriers are cracking down and just read something new on the net that google is even getting involved with blocking illegal and/or abusive tethering in the near future.
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+1 on that one. Won't be long though. All carriers are cracking down and just read something new on the net that google is even getting involved with blocking illegal and/or abusive tethering in the near future.
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Wharz link?
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cavsoldier19d said:
No offense but its people like you is the reason why tethering has been such a huge issue. Tethering (if you are not paying for it) should only be used for necessity or minor things like checking your email, post a Facebook status message, or upload a photo, so that you are not abusing the feature and bogging down the network/tower you are connected to.
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Well no offense but you don't know anything about me. I have maybe time for 2 matches a weak! I don't abuse anything. I have never gone over 5 gigs in a month. And as mentioned I live in a truck i'm exactly the reason tethering is out there!
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Guys how he does his tethering is his business not ours
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It's all funny you guys are panicking. The slowdown is only going to be relevant to the top 5% of users according to my buddy who works in their corporate offices.
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It's all funny you guys are panicking. The slowdown is only going to be relevant to the top 5% of users according to my buddy who works in their corporate offices.
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Ive learned that att lies it will not be 5% it will be to whom ever they wish. My perdition is one people hit the 4g tether plain the brakes will be on.
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why so horrified? if you write a check and there isn't enough cash in the account to cover it, are you surprised when the bank dings your account with a huge fee?
Top 5% users..... yeah right.
We all know how this is going to happened, you hit a certain cap, say about 10GB, then they throttle you to slower then EDGE speeds.
It's all their plan to ruin unlimited data for unlimited data users......
Hopefully though, the cap is high, or they ACTUALLY tell the truth for once and only throttle the top 5%, which I'm probably nowhere near (I use 3-4GB a month), so I really won't have to worry about it, but it sucks for people who use 10-15GB a month without tethering, you must not have wifi around where you normally are. :/
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+1 on that one. Won't be long though. All carriers are cracking down and just read something new on the net that google is even getting involved with blocking illegal and/or abusive tethering in the near future.
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HEY IM with you. I use tethering and dont pay, but I never never gostreaming and never go about 4 at the most. Most of the time It is2. I have unlimited data. For god sakes it a cell phone not a pc people
If you have the grandfather unlimited plan, are they slowing that down too?
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Hey guys. Found this the other day.. Download Hotspot Widget by Harold muller.. Add it to your home page.. This will turn on the official Verizon Hotspot even if you aren't subscribed to a tethering package. No root required... HAPPY TETHERING!!!
Will Verizon be able to tell that we are using tethering service?
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http://www.phonearena.com/news/Veri...tether-illegally-with-unofficial-apps_id21046
Verizon is apparently "cracking down" on illegal tethering and automatically putting you on a 2gb plan. I think using their official app only makes it works.
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http://www.phonearena.com/news/Veri...tether-illegally-with-unofficial-apps_id21046
Verizon is apparently "cracking down" on illegal tethering and automatically putting you on a 2gb plan. I think using their official app only makes it works.
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People have been saying this for a long time. I havent heard of anyone who has had this happen. I'm not saying it won't happen, but I haven't heard anything.
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i play Rift using wifi tether at least 3 hours a day 7 days a week and have been doing it since the first week the fascinate has come out. i'm still unlimeted. not saying they can't track, but i have yet to be busted down to this 2g plan. I believe right now i'm sitting at 6 or 7 gigs for the month already cause i fell asleep with it still running and my girl DL'd some torrents on it ><
Have heard substantial people say Verizon is cracking down, but few if any have actually had it happen to them. And as far as tracking, I believe there is something in GB that allows them to see if were tethering or not. By analyzing the packets or something
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I tried it out and of course it has a password on the network and I have no clue what it is. Oh well.
Its your phone number
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I tried it out and of course it has a password on the network and I have no clue what it is. Oh well.
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After you activate it with the widget.. You can open the Hotspot app and configure your settings..
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i play Rift using wifi tether at least 3 hours a day 7 days a week and have been doing it since the first week the fascinate has come out. i'm still unlimeted. not saying they can't track, but i have yet to be busted down to this 2g plan. I believe right now i'm sitting at 6 or 7 gigs for the month already cause i fell asleep with it still running and my girl DL'd some torrents on it ><
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The problem with this is, if you lose that unlimited data plan you will never get it back.
I tether also (I use the free wireless tether) to tether my ipad2 occasionally, but I try to use as little data as possible when doing that. I would be seriously p!ssed if I lost my unlimited 4G dataplan.....(I was grandfathered in from my DroidX and old Windows phones)
~John
ya i'd stay on the safe side and use something like pdanet. you can use it through usb or bluetooth on mac or pc, and it works great! definitely a lot safer option than using verizon's app
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ya i'd stay on the safe side and use something like pdanet. you can use it through usb or bluetooth on mac or pc, and it works great! definitely a lot safer option than using verizon's app
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Have been able to get PDAnet to pair with Ipad but never to actually exchange data
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Have been able to get PDAnet to pair with Ipad but never to actually exchange data
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if ur rooted just use wireless tether
This did not work for me. Anyone else tested?
This did not work for me either. Running gummycharged GBE 2, latest one. It just kind of clicks and stays toggled off. This did work for the original ROM installed on the phone when I first got it but I believe they probably fixed it at some point with EE4 or later.
I use the free apps and the Verizon app because I have the unlimited tether plan that I got for $30 a month on top of my unlimited data plan
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This did not work for me either. Running gummycharged GBE 2, latest one. It just kind of clicks and stays toggled off. This did work for the original ROM installed on the phone when I first got it but I believe they probably fixed it at some point with EE4 or later.
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Just found out today the hard way, it only works with froyo..
Tested this option and it works. The bad news is that after about an hour of blazing fast 15+ mbps my speeds dropped suddenly. I believe this lead to being severely throttled. From that point on the past two days my data speeds have hovered at 2 mbps. Did tests form various locations with a strong signal, still seeing 2 mbps. The speed test app will ramp up past 10 mbps and then rapidly drop off like a dead signal and then bounce back to around 2 megs. Tried rebooting and removing the app but still have not experienced my previous 4G 15+ mbps speeds. So I have a feeling this is not a good option to use. Use at your own risk.
I got the "tethering function blocked" text message from T-mobile yesterday. This is the first time I have seen this and I did STFA before randomly posting. Now true this is the first time I have done tethering on the upgraded Gingerbread OS (currently running the rooted GB Weapon 3.0 ROM) all previous times I tethered were on the Rooted Froyo OS. I also noticed that after receiving this text message when I tried to use the internet browser on the device tethered to the phone I was directed to a T-mobile page stating that tethering was blocked and if I wanted it, it was an additional $15USD monthly cost.
Yes it appears that all the provider's (US= ATT, Tmbl, VW, Sprint) are now actively clamping down on devices tethering without a tethering plan included (probably hitting the large Metro-areas first -- I was in Houston when it happened = #4 largest), how exactly they know it is happening, I don't know.
I have seen where others have made comments about this but they were at or above the 2GB monthly limit. When I got this message from T-mobile I had used 400 megs of my 2GB allotment for the month, so I was nowhere near the cap.
Anybody know exactly how T-mobile is blocking this feature on rooted phones?? is it done on the T-mobile servers, does it send some data packet that alters files in the Android OS or does it alter the SIM chip files???
Has something changed in the Android OS (some sort of tattle-tale) or does T-Mobile have some new capability that can "sniff out" whether or not you are using the tethering option on your phone without enrolling in there "enable tethering capability" feature for a mere $15USD monthly of extortion? Say what you will, but I do not see where I should have to pay extra to tether a device to my data plan if I am below my allotted data usage per month, and no I have never exceeded the 2GB limit during my contract.
I saw a post about EasyTether, which says that it has a way to mask its operation (utilizing the same ports as the cell phone does for data ?????) so that the carrier cannot tell that the tethering option is being utilized. But it appears that it only works for USB, not for WiFi. For me tethering is about 50/50 -- for PC's I use the USB, for my tablets I use WiFi. So is there an app, driver, etc that works for both, or a way I can apply an update, edit a file, etc. to get the USB and WiFi tethering option to function properly without T-Mobile trying to extort me for more money every month??
I have seen the links that say to change (or use add-ins that will change) the web browser user strings, and did not find a consensus that this truly works.
I found links that mention freezing the Tethering Manager App (do search for -- How to Get Free Wifi Tether on Rooted T-Mobile Galaxy S2 on youtube and you can see the clip), which I would try if I could find the App. I have refreshed the Apps list in Titanium Backup and searched for a reference to this App (is it possibly named something different for the G2x running a Froyo or Gingerbread based ROM?) and no luck, I did not find it in either ROM so at this point I am not sure what to do.
any help on this subject is appreciated
I'm not quite sure why T-Mobile would be doing that, especially when you didn't go over your limit.
My suggestion would be to just use a 3rd party wifi tethering app.
I personally use the Wifi tethering app from opengarden. Since your phone is rooted you can use it. It also doesn't use any of your 2gb, so you shouldn't have a problem with tethering anymore.
Hope I helped!
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Tmo has told me in the past they'll eventually catch up to you
and start charging for it.
I don't think they can possibly track it from a 3rd party application that requires root.
In fact I'm sure they can't, they can only track how much data you are using. They may be able to track the tether built into the phone, but especially not a 3rd party application that requires root.
I have been using Open garden's wifi tether, and never had problems from T-Mobile.
Give the open garden wifi tether a try, if your g2x is rooted. I'm pretty sure that they cannot track it, and it also doesn't use any of your allowed 2gb since its a root required app.
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Simply not true. There are many different ways to monitor for tethering based on the packets. TTL and user agent would be the easiest to implement.
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I don't think they can possibly track it from a 3rd party application that requires root.
In fact I'm sure they can't, they can only track how much data you are using. They may be able to track the tether built into the phone, but especially not a 3rd party application that requires root.
I have been using Open garden's wifi tether, and never had problems from T-Mobile.
Give the open garden wifi tether a try, if your g2x is rooted. I'm pretty sure that they cannot track it, and it also doesn't use any of your allowed 2gb since its a root required app.
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It also doesn't use any of your 2gb, so you shouldn't have a problem with tethering anymore.
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Not true. Data usage, weather it's tethering or mobile usage still counts against your monthly cap.
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Yeah, if you have the tethering option marked in your phone, they will catch up to you. I use easy tether with the tethering option unmarked.
Hence the fact I almost forgot I have unlimited data...my bad folks.
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Hence the fact I almost forgot I have unlimited data...my bad folks.
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We all have "unlimited" data. You just get throttled over 2 or 5 GB.
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I got 10GB. 5 is not enough for me. I hate getting throttled.
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I got 10GB. 5 is not enough for me. I hate getting throttled.
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How much extra is 10 GB?
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iCraft said:
I don't think they can possibly track it from a 3rd party application that requires root.
In fact I'm sure they can't, they can only track how much data you are using. They may be able to track the tether built into the phone, but especially not a 3rd party application that requires root.
I have been using Open garden's wifi tether, and never had problems from T-Mobile.
Give the open garden wifi tether a try, if your g2x is rooted. I'm pretty sure that they cannot track it, and it also doesn't use any of your allowed 2gb since its a root required app.
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Thanks for the information on the open garden app. I was hoping for a single app that would work for both USB and WiFi tethering but it is not looking good, so in the mean time I guess I will just have to use separate apps for use on PCs and Tablets.
as for the data usage, I don't see how an app could bypass ticking the data packet counter as files are downloaded, I am sure it counts any data packets being pulled down or pushed up from the cell connection. If not - I am sure any wireless provider would be scrambling to close that loop hole as quickly as possible.
The only way they can track it is by putting it into the o.s. build. I have NEVER seen that messgae and i live in atlanta. I tether my phone EVERYDAY to my laptop when i have to download certain files for work. I have been tethering for about a year and a half now.
use different browser. This happenned to me one day while using firefox, i switch to google chrome, i'm back on business. Dont know why thou.
I just tried barnacle wifi and it worked for me with no problems. Is it only the wired tether (pdaNet) having this issue?
Maby it's a CARRIER IQ telling on you!!! LOL
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Been using barnacle wifi tether works good no issues
I have the sgs2 and it was blocked from the start. I would guess that with this newest horse**** update they rolled out for the g2x they included the files to block tethering. But all you need to do is root the phone install titanium backup pro and look for a file called tethering manager and freeze it then you can go back to tethering for free. But make sure you freeze it DO NOT DELETE IT!!! I heard a few people say when they deleted it it f***ed up the phone
I don't know if that is definitely the solution but give it a try and report back please.
Charlie
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I have the sgs2 and it was blocked from the start. I would guess that with this newest horse**** update they rolled out for the g2x they included the files to block tethering. But all you need to do is root the phone install titanium backup pro and look for a file called tethering manager and freeze it then you can go back to tethering for free. But make sure you freeze it DO NOT DELETE IT!!! I heard a few people say when they deleted it it f***ed up the phone
I don't know if that is definitely the solution but give it a try and report back please.
Charlie
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The G2x was rooted 2 weeks after I got it when it had Froyo. It is currently on Weapon3.0 and it is rooted now as well. I hunted around for the "tethering manager.apk" file(s), and I was unable to locate any reference to it. I do have root access enabled and I have also enabled the "view hidden files" in the file manager and I still did not find any tethering manager file(s)
Please look at my post regarding T-mobile tethering
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26649587#post26649587