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Best settings to reduce "incidental" data usage

I just switched over from vzw. I'm not used to having limited data access. What suggestions do you have for reducing unintentional data use? I've limited syncing of most accounts to once a day. I use wifi at home and do heavy downloads there. But in 8 days I've already used almost 500 mb.
Has anyone had success as a new customer getting into unlimited data plan?
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Not heard of any success as a new customer, but if you were an old customer and switch to the limited data plan, I know if you threaten to leave they will give you back the unlimited. I remember someone posting a trick to get the unlimited data on the captivate forum a while back, but for the life of me cannot find that post. It had something to do that was kinda a shady round about way of getting it, and I'm sure att has plugged that hole by now.

Thanks big. Any ideas on limiting data. On my dx, you could set to only sync over wifi. Never needed it them, now I could use that setting.
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bigdessert said:
I remember someone posting a trick to get the unlimited data on the captivate forum a while back, but for the life of me cannot find that post. It had something to do that was kinda a shady round about way of getting it, and I'm sure att has plugged that hole by now.
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Actually, they quite literally can't plug the hole. Get an original iPhone(non-3g) and activate it through iTunes. The only plan it has available is unlimited. Then, you should be able to switch go the unlimited 4g plan.
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Social networking stuff in sense consumes tons of bandwidth. Root and remove it. You can also use the power control widget to turn off mobile data when you are on the go and turn it on when you want to use it.
The only sure fire way to get unlimited back is to do the Iphone 2g trick. It works better on a new line / sim when its is the first and only device that has been on that line.

I have an original iPhone 2g...can I do that trick to get unlimited back on my Inspire?
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I don't have a 2g iphone. Guys I'm stuck. I am rooted and removed a lot of bloat. I just set social network stuff to sync every 8 hours. Can't really turn mobile data off because I use gtalk and gmail at work. The facebook and twitter stuff will probably save some data. I think I'm going to have to assume il be using 2 gigs plus one.
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Read the entire thread. If you skim or fail to do so and it doesn't work it is your own fault. This worked for me for the inspire. My posts are on the last two pages or three depending on how many posts per page.
http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...30-unlimited-data-for-your-iPhone-4-Read-this!!!

BB2DX said:
I use wifi at home and do heavy downloads there. But in 8 days I've already used almost 500 mb.
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I assume you have 2gb plan. that is more then enough, I use about 1.5gb monthly. I have push emails on gmail and hotmail, twitter updates every 30 minutes and surf web about 3 hours a day. but I don't do any streaming video or radio. try to download apps with wifi if possible.

Aridon said:
Read the entire thread. If you skim or fail to do so and it doesn't work it is your own fault. This worked for me for the inspire. My posts are on the last two pages or three depending on how many posts per page.
http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...30-unlimited-data-for-your-iPhone-4-Read-this!!!
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Thanks for the link. It looks like someone has done this successfully as recent as 2/19. Now I know what I'm going to do if ATT decides they don't want to give me my unlimited back.

Does social network stuff really eat up data?

Go into Accounts and Sync under settings and uncheck News, Weather and Stocks.

Aridon said:
Read the entire thread. If you skim or fail to do so and it doesn't work it is your own fault. This worked for me for the inspire. My posts are on the last two pages or three depending on how many posts per page.
Did you have to use a new SIM card it is it possible to use the one you already have?
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thubderbolt best 4g Verizon phone?

ok guys i need ur gelp, i only got a 1/2 hour to decide. i found a great deal on a tb but i dont know if i should get it.
are you guys happy with the phone?
would u get a diff 4g phone
how is the batt?
a list of pros n cons would be great
might buy it for 175 used. i got burn with the fascinate and i dont wanna do the same.
tge reason i want a 4g phone is to lock in unlimited 4g before the limited plans get in.

Best 4g lte phone imo. Just make sure to get an extended battery down the road.
Great speeds
OK screen
Great dev support
Not so great battery life on standard battery
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Get the damn TB. Put some BAMF on it. Enjoy.
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I can usually get from 8-16 hours from the thunderbolt on the standard battery, depending on use of course. I am sitting in wifi mostly, running das Bamf 1.8.6 right now. Over the weekend, I got 28 hours on a single charge on 3G, but I didn't use it much at all - just emails, a few websites but there was about an hour of pandora in there.
If you're interested in rooting/ROMing, I think the TB is definitely the best choice

I thought the Samsung phone was pretty good. Ofcourse I am not sure if it is worth the extra money, it probably sells for more than TB.
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Not saying this cause I own one, thunderbolt hands down. The development community alone should be enough to make it the most appealing LTE device.
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I was wondering the same thing. Hardware wise the charge is superior but developer wise the thunderbolt has more support. I bought my tbolt used in like new condition for $350. The price jacked up once the tiered data plans were leaked. At $175 check to make sure the esn is clean and then go for it!
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cowisland said:
I thought the Samsung phone was pretty good. Ofcourse I am not sure if it is worth the extra money, it probably sells for more than TB.
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Samsung and I are not friends. Innovative products, poor product support. Their way of fixing things is releasing a new device. This has been my experience anyway.
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Not to be rude but no peons or cons list?
And as far as you guys know what exactly is grandfather in?
If I have unlimited data and I choose to upgrade later to a 4g non contract would I keep unlimited?

jonagpa said:
Not to be rude but no peons or cons list?
And as far as you guys know what exactly is grandfather in?
If I have unlimited data and I choose to upgrade later to a 4g non contract would I keep unlimited?
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According to what's been floating around so far yes you do.
I also gave you two cons in my reply. Want me to start making up stuff?
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lrs421 said:
According to what's been floating around so far yes you do.
I also gave you two cons in my reply. Want me to start making up stuff?
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No, hahah sorry kinda stressed out abou it for some reason
I am getting it just in case they say u can't be grandfathered in for the 4g. I don't even have 4g here but 4g is the future and I only pay 10 for unlimited ( I got this crazy promotional deal last November) n I don't wanna lose it when I do get 4g around here.

I have to say I'm impressed with the Thunderbolt, and I'm not an Android guy. Well Im totally an Android guy, now. If I had gotten any other phone available currently, I would have passed it off in a week.
The thunderbolt's quality combined with developer support and the online community just form a smartphone-holy trinity.
I have an iPad 2, iPad, iPhone 4, and Thunderbolt. The short battery life the first three days was a con. Then I started customizing my settings, and about 3 hours after ordering an extended battery I realized "Oh ****, I've been pushing this dude pretty hard for 10 hours."
Needless to say, I only use it when I'm going to be out all night and she's pretty enough that I may not charge it first thing in the morning.
Rooted Thunderbolt on BAMF Sense 3.0 RC 4 with MR2 radio and latest dreamKernel.

By the way, I see you're in Queens. I work in Long Island City and get great 4g speeds. About 25 down and 5 up.
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jonagpa said:
Not to be rude but no peons or cons list?
And as far as you guys know what exactly is grandfather in?
If I have unlimited data and I choose to upgrade later to a 4g non contract would I keep unlimited?
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you keep unlimited as long as you keep your plan (3g/4g doesn't make a difference), they have said that as long as you are unlimited with smartphone data, you are good (according to engadget). If you change your base plan in any way, then you will lose the unlimited data.
Thunderbolt is a great phone with minor hiccups stock. Charge has better battery life and a better screen. Thunderbolt has a lot better dev support as do most htc products. Thunderbolt comes with 40gb total memory, not sure about the Charge.

Every Charge I've played with has just dragged. I attribute it to the way Samsung distributed the ram. Their battery life sucks too. I can get 2 days out of my TB. I've used a Charge that regularly loses 40% in 3 hours.

nrfitchett4 said:
Thunderbolt is a great phone with minor hiccups stock. Charge has better battery life and a better screen. Thunderbolt has a lot better dev support as do most htc products. Thunderbolt comes with 40gb total memory, not sure about the Charge.
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Why do HTC phones have better dev support, just curious? This is my first Android phone, so forgive me if I am missing something obvious here, could have googled it, etc. Thanks!
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I love my thunderbolt. I bought it used for $350 went to verizon to activate told him it was used and he asked if I wanted insurance. I said sure. Had an issue that was within 14 days of purchase and they gave me a new in box. Yeah I know people will ***** I screwed verizon but people have a job and should be trained. Since I have had no problems, love the Roms put out and 4g is great.

I can't believe that nobody had mentioned that the.TB is the only verizon phone with voice and simultaneous data thanks to its dual antennas.
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I like my TB, but this is my first Android phone so I can't really compare. People have gone over the pros for the phone, and I agree with them. Here are a couple of potential cons. #1 is the phone sound quality. I personally don't find it that great, and to me Verizon iPhone (my wife has one) sounds better. I thought the phone amp was such a basic part that it should never be an issue, but surprisingly it is an issue for me. #2 is the 4g battery drain bug. The good thing is that not everyone has it, and I hope MR2 radio finally fixes it (testing that right now). Other than that it has been a great phone for me, and I am definitely enjoying the dev support, thanks to the devs and people offering help on this forum!
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cowisland said:
I like my TB, but this is my first Android phone so I can't really compare. People have gone over the pros for the phone, and I agree with them. Here are a couple of potential cons. #1 is the phone sound quality. I personally don't find it that great, and to me Verizon iPhone (my wife has one) sounds better. I thought the phone amp was such a basic part that it should never be an issue, but surprisingly it is an issue for me. #2 is the 4g battery drain bug. The good thing is that not everyone has it, and I hope MR2 radio finally fixes it (testing that right now). Other than that it has been a great phone for me, and I am definitely enjoying the dev support, thanks to the devs and people offering help on this forum!
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It will sound better if you pull the kickstand out, even if that's a little inconvenient.

[Q] data cap/throttling

so is there any way to get past throttling? i tether to my computer and run out of data in less then a day of a new billing cycle. (yes i run thru 5 gigs in less then a day! hahaha) so is there any way shape or form to get rid of this horrible throttling issue?!?!?!

Nope. Not anymore.
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Real quick brother don't know if this will work for ya but I got throttled a few days ago and but chance was running speed test to see how slow it really had gotten and I managed to lose my data connection when it restablished I had my 4g speeds again.... I lost it again the next morning but attempted to recreate the event by running speed test and. Then cutting my data connection from the top bar and it worked give it a shot if you want and get back to me
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Pornaholics Anonymous.
Lol. Jk.

Ivanstein said:
Pornaholics Anonymous.
Lol. Jk.
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I just cant stop, i feel like im walking on sunshineee.
haha for real though as of now i havent heard of a way to beat the throttle, its more provider side then phone side. I heard there is a plan that has the 5gb cap but never throttles, you have to ask for it specifically and its given to most long time customers (or people who threaten to cancel). Give it a search.

VZW blocking tethering on rooted phones?

Granted there are glaring inaccuracies in this article, but the woman who was blocked was using a droid X. Anyone seen this yet on their phones?
http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/verizon_blocks_hotspot_tethering_for_jailbroken_de.php

I laughed reading this article. We've had people here using 40+ gb and weren't moved. I have no worries with mine.
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The fact that they use the word jailbroken throughout the entire article throws it credibility out the window for me.

I have ginger bread and tether with wireless tether app beta 3.2 works perfect and full speed
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Verizon knows if you're tethering or not. So far they haven't chosen to do anything about it, but if you read your contract (actually read it) you'll see that they can really screw you if they want to, and you'll get no reach around...
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Verizon knows if you're tethering or not. So far they haven't chosen to do anything about it, but if you read your contract (actually read it) you'll see that they can really screw you if they want to, and you'll get no reach around...
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Exactly, my reason for posting this was to see if anyone had started getting screwed....

imnuts said:
Verizon knows if you're tethering or not. So far they haven't chosen to do anything about it, but if you read your contract (actually read it) you'll see that they can really screw you if they want to, and you'll get no reach around...
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How do they know?
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vash1053 said:
How do they know?
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They can monitor from software in the Android OS built into the stock VZW rom and sometimes watching the network traffic can point to good clues also

yutzybrian said:
They can monitor from software in the Android OS built into the stock VZW rom and sometimes watching the network traffic can point to good clues also
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So, that means if we are using a custom rom then they can only know by watching network traffic?
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yutzybrian said:
They can monitor from software in the Android OS built into the stock VZW rom and sometimes watching the network traffic can point to good clues also
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Is it even legal for them to monitor your phone in such a way? The ROM bit, that is.
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VZW knows because I doubt that your phone has IE to browse the web, or Safari for that matter, and other such things can tell them quite easily if you are tethering or not, disregarding the amount of data transferred. Add in the amount of data transferred, and you kind of stick out like a sore thumb when you're tethering.
Also, the hotspot monitoring stuff on the phone doesn't do anything besides watch to see if you are tethering illegally or not, so I'm pretty sure that if you did try to press the legality point of view, they'd come back and dig into whether or not you were tethering, cause odds are, if you are bringing up this point, it is for a reason.

I came from the Droid X and with the GB update and the baseband update they can now tell if you are tethering. Verizon warned the devs and the devs took notice for the moto roms. Those devs no longer provide nor will endorse root tethering apps. There was something about liability issues so the devs are abiding by Verizon's wishes. They are telling all that if you want to tether, pay the monthly fee for the service. Therefore; when the Charge gets the official GB update with baseband, tether at your own risk if you are not paying for it.
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IMNUTS is correct. When you are using a tethering app, your data packets are preceeded with a special code that identifies that packet as being tethered. Verizon is now monitoring these. Black Hat had a hack that yoy could change that code, but they removed that a long time ago for obvious reasons. They now suggest not using it and just pay the money for tethering. This is why devs are no longer including the root tethering apps to give free tethering with their roms anymore. Too much risk to them personally for something that most do for fun.
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VZ most definitely can tell when you are tethering, though by using custom roms/kernels and using disguised tethering apps it just makes it less obvious... I doubt they're really gonna care tbh unless you're hitting some ridiculous number like say 30+ gigs a month, cuz seriously just using the phone normally it shouldn't be that high. From there they can choose to throttle your data speeds or drop your unlimited data plan altogether... also there is no way around this as they block/slow data server-side so its under their control
tl;dr they can almost 100% tell you're tethering and might take action, but probably won't unless you're retarded and pulling in a hundred gigs a month in PHONE data

I only tether when I'm on business or somewhere for a while that doesn't have wifi. So I use less than 2g of data a month. I doubt they'd hunt me down, some of these people who tether 15+ gigs a month may have issues soon.

nobody happen to read the pdf posted in the comments of that site? Apparently Verizon cannot restrict you of downloading a tether program and using the data as such. When Verizon purchased the 700mhz spectrum for their LTE service they agreed they would not " deny, limit, or restrict the ability of
[its] customers to use the devices and applications of their choice". To me that sounds like Verizon is stepping outside their rights... However we end users agreeing to their terms and services might negate that all together.
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vash1053 said:
Is it even legal for them to monitor your phone in such a way? The ROM bit, that is.
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when you blindly sign a contract they can generally do as they please, you have a choice but the alternative is to not have a cell phone :/
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nobody happen to read the pdf posted in the comments of that site? Apparently Verizon cannot restrict you of downloading a tether program and using the data as such. When Verizon purchased the 700mhz spectrum for their LTE service they agreed they would not " deny, limit, or restrict the ability of
[its] customers to use the devices and applications of their choice". To me that sounds like Verizon is stepping outside their rights... However we end users agreeing to their terms and services might negate that all together.
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this goes back to the contract as well you can use whatever program you want but when it comes to using their network its their rules

robby88 said:
when you blindly sign a contract they can generally do as they please, you have a choice but the alternative is to not have a cell phone :/
this goes back to the contract as well you can use whatever program you want but when it comes to using their network its their rules
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true, but fact is they are not following their agreement to the company they purchased the service from. Also, in verizon's contract they state if they change their service in anyway that has a negative impact on your account\service you are free to opt out of their contract free of charge (so I read back when tier data was being set forth). That being said blocking tethering might be a plausible reason for early termination of contract, legally.

robby88 said:
when you blindly sign a contract they can generally do as they please, you have a choice but the alternative is to not have a cell phone :/
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Not necessarily... The contract's terms still have to be legal, and their conduct regarding that contract has to be legal.
If you sign a contract to kill someone wanting to commit suicide and you follow through with it, you are still lawfully going to be tried for murder.
Verizon is still subject to privacy laws, regardless of what the contract says. I think even if they know you are tethering, which at this point seems more like an educated guess, I don't know if they can really be too audacious with reprimanding people. There's a whole mess of legal implications stemming from the aforementioned agreement when they purchased that spectrum that I think they're not willing to taunt just yet, if ever.

There is a kernel module that is in the code that specifies tethering or not. You can't use wifi without the module, as I already tried. There is a by-pass that is being used on the Fascinate, but we haven't had any confirmation about whether it works or not, and I'm not going to go through the trouble of implementing an un-proven work around just so people can tether illegally. If you want to tether, take the risk of getting caught, or pay $30.

How much data do YOU use?

I just got online and checked my data usage on AT&T, and I used about 100 Gig this pay period...good thing i have unlimited after being transferred from Alltel
How much do you all use?

100gig WTF ARE YOU using that much data for .. BTW this is nothing more than a e-peenis stroking contest ... and will turn south REALLY fast

I use my phone for Wifi at home. and I didn't mean to create a thread doomed for disaster...let's hope it doesn't become that!?

and this ladies and gents is WHY phone carriers put caps on data ... don't try and defend it 100g is ****ing crazy simple crazy your phones data is not meant to POWER the whole freaking house's internets

alright??? maybe this thread should be locked... my bad.

1.8 gb, Im a normal user.
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~0.75-1.5 GB.... never crossed 1.5 GB. Typical - 0.75 - 1.25 GB in any given month, including use of maps, etc. I don't stream music or videos, except maybe once in a while when totally bored.
And as far as using as WiFi at home, get a basic cable internet for like 20 or 30 a month. You'll atleast help people connected to your tower get better speeds.

Porn in HD....takes alot of data....
Just saying...from what I've heard...
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Porn in HD....takes alot of data....
Just saying...from what I've heard...
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Ok... you better refrain from posting these kind of answers during work hours... its strange the way people around here see me when I giggle at the screen

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lol well I tether to my laptop to watch Netflix in the back of my truck out and about, and i use Pandora quite a bit... 100gig is my biggest month ever, but i loved alltel and they gave me unlimited data no problem...so ATT had better honor that for what i pay, and i do plan on getting Wifi at home, however most of my data usage is movies on the go.

Let me guess: when you get busted using your 100 gigs tethered, the next thread will be "att is mean to me and it's not fair! "
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apallohadas said:
Let me guess: when you get busted using your 100 gigs tethered, the next thread will be "att is mean to me and it's not fair! "
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no, my next thread would be "Transferred to Straight Talk and suddenly had enough money for WiFi"

jacob1189 said:
lol well I tether to my laptop to watch Netflix in the back of my truck out and about, and i use Pandora quite a bit... 100gig is my biggest month ever, but i loved alltel and they gave me unlimited data no problem...so ATT had better honor that for what i pay, and i do plan on getting Wifi at home, however most of my data usage is movies on the go.
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fat chance they will shut you down lol

My biggest month? 114mb. Seriously.
Which is why I've used GoPhone for the last year. Ten bucks a month.
That is, until AT&T just decided that in order to get data, I need to buy $25 worth of airtime I don't need. F*** AT&T.

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no, my next thread would be "Transferred to Straight Talk and suddenly had enough money for WiFi"
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guess what they monitor data usage more than att ( i sell cellphones ) i have loads of people coming in *****ing about straight talk

CheesyNutz said:
guess what they monitor data usage more than att ( i sell cellphones ) i have loads of people coming in *****ing about straight talk
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Yeah i know, my girlfriend has them and they called her around 2GB and said to stop being excessive or they will close the account. but if i wasn't paying $80 for my plan, i could afford Wifi, so I think i'd be *ok*

jacob1189 said:
no, my next thread would be "Transferred to Straight Talk and suddenly had enough money for WiFi"
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You said most of your usage was on the go. So I'm not sure what wifi has to do with it unless you're talking about a mobile hotspot.
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apallohadas said:
You said most of your usage was on the go. So I'm not sure what wifi has to do with it unless you're talking about a mobile hotspot.
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yeah that's the downside to using regular data and having wifi at home... i lose the ability to watch movies "abroad" but i guess i'll deal with that dilemma when it's here.