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Would you recommend the Nexus S?

I have the Vibrant now, but Bestbuy has the Nexus S for 100. How do you like your nexus? Anyone here go from the Vibrant to the Nexus?
Thanks for any input.
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Five0nIt said:
I have the Vibrant now, but Bestbuy has the Nexus S for 100. How do you like your nexus? Anyone here go from the Vibrant to the Nexus?
Thanks for any input.
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you will get about 90% yes, 10% troll-no
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you will get about 90% yes, 10% troll-no
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Keep in mind though that posting here you're going to get quite a biased userbase. People who buy the SNS tend to do so because they're fans of the stock android experience and will put up with a few bugs to have it (none as big as not having working GPS for far too long...).

I came from the vibrant and I'm very pleased so far. stock android is awesome and I've had excellent gps so far. I haven't experienced any of the bugs some people have been having either.
overall a solid phone. I would recommend it for sure.
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I came from a vibrant and paid launch price for mine. At that price I have zero regrets and am really happy with the upgrade. At half the price, I wouldn't think twice. Go for it!

i came from iphone 3g, and did a LOT of research for a long time before deciding on the Nexus S. honestly, i love this phone. and a lot of people have asked me about it wanting to know what it is (it's not released in Aus yet).
my opinion may be a bit biased due to the benefits of android (coming from ios), rather than this phone specifically, but hardware wise at least, it feels solid, it performs very well, the screen is awesome, it looks elegant (no branding on the face - a requirement for me). the main hardware downside is that the storage can't be expanded. though i'm used to that, and i can live with 16gb. also the small bump at the back on the bottom may not appeal to some people; i like it though - easiest/fastest way to tell top from bottom on this phone, particularly in the dark, haha.
i would say just go into bestbuy and play with the phone in-store.

jaker.the.skater said:
I came from the vibrant and I'm very pleased so far. stock android is awesome and I've had excellent gps so far. I haven't experienced any of the bugs some people have been having either.
overall a solid phone. I would recommend it for sure.
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How do you like not having a Microsd. Dose it bother you? I think that and it not being a 4g phone is what keeps me from pulling the trigger.
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Five0nIt said:
How do you like not having a Microsd. Dose it bother you? I think that and it not being a 4g phone is what keeps me from pulling the trigger.
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MicroSD is not a problem for me and in Engadget's review of the SGS4G they compared its data speed to the Nexus S and found that it was really not much faster. Of course as the 4G tech gets better, the speeds will get faster but by the time it matters you'll most likely be shopping for a new phone.

sd is not a problem for me. I have about 6.5 gb of music and then I use up 1 or 2 more gb for pictures, apps, etc.
4g isn't upsetting for me either. I get about 5 mb download speed in my area on 3g and that's good enough for me. I mainly use wifi for big file downloads.
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Sweet. I've been wanting the Nexus since it launched, but told myself to wait for a 4.3 inch android, but at only 100 Idk if I can pass that up. The 4g is not a deal breaker the no microsd slot was.but even now my 16gig micro is not even half full.
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Depends what you plan to do with a Nexus S. Do you plan to create apps, or root, or flash a lot of ROMs, load a lot of custom skins and whatnot? If so, then yes. It sounds like a dream come true if you are into that stuff.
However, if you plan to use the NS as is, I would actually not recommend it. I love the Android platform, but I've also been very critical of it for it's, unfortunately, many shortcomings. The vanilla Android OS is chock full of glitches ranging from minor, to annoying, to major problems. It's great that you get direct and timely updates from Google, but I'm discovering more and more that all that means is you're their beta tester. Some people get a kick out of that, and some don't.
Do as much research as you can; like Kenvan mentioned though, you have to keep in mind you're in a Nexus S forum. The feedback will likely be bias and skewed.
And if you haven't actually handled a Nexus S, definitely do so, and spend a lot of time with it. Good luck, have fun.

onthecouchagain said:
Depends what you plan to do with a Nexus S. Do you plan to create apps, or root, or flash a lot of ROMs, load a lot of custom skins and whatnot? If so, then yes. It sounds like a dream come true if you are into that stuff.
However, if you plan to use the NS as is, I would actually not recommend it. I love the Android platform, but I've also been very critical of it for it's, unfortunately, many shortcomings. The vanilla Android OS is chock full of glitches ranging from minor, to annoying, to major problems. It's great that you get direct and timely updates from Google, but I'm discovering more and more that all that means is you're their beta tester. Some people get a kick out of that, and some don't.
Do as much research as you can; like Kenvan mentioned though, you have to keep in mind you're in a Nexus S forum. The feedback will likely be bias and skewed.
And if you haven't actually handled a Nexus S, definitely do so, and spend a lot of time with it. Good luck, have fun.
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Yea I like to flash roms and right now its pretty dead in the vibrant section that's why im considering the nexus.
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I dunno I wouldn't waste an upgrade on it and shell out 100 if you already have a vibrant granted nexus s is better I'd probley wait for something else at this point I sold my vibrant for 300 at the time but I burned an upgrade I guess you can do the same I did
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barmanham said:
I dunno I wouldn't waste an upgrade on it and shell out 100 if you already have a vibrant granted nexus s is better I'd probley wait for something else at this point I sold my vibrant for 300 at the time but I burned an upgrade I guess you can do the same I did
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An upgrade wont be a problem. I have 4 lines and no one gives a **** what phone they have. I just keep passing mine down
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Coming from a Hero and an Epic 4G, I can say that even with the existing issues, the Nexus S delivers the Android experience I'd been expecting all along. The phone simply feels responsive in a way that OEMs seem to destroy with their crappy add-ons.
If you felt like your Vibrant had no right to be so sluggish with a 1GHz CPU, then go for it. I paid full price for my NS and it was totally worth it. If anything you won't get those stupid battery-full popups or the bleeps when getting/losing a cell signal.

I wouldn't recommend it. And this isn't a "troll-no," as someone so fanboyishly put it.
The phone itself is absolutely gorgeous. I love how light it is and the screen is wonderful. It's funny the hardware was the thing I was worried about most before I purchased and it's ended up being the one thing I really like about the phone.
The software ruins it for me - and many others, I suspect. There are so many little things about it that go wrong that it's a frustrate-fest for me.
Examples?
Downloads from browser/market are unsuccessful 50-75% of the time.
The phone still loses mobile network connection many times. While it doesn't seem to need a full reboot anymore for me, it still requires an Airplane mode on/off to remedy.
I've still had reboots - just last week it rebooted in the middle of the night and got stuck on the boot screen, making me late for work since the alarm didn't go off
Google Voice constantly has a wakelock issue for me. If I don't catch it early in the day it ends up sucking over 25% of my battery. A reboot will fix it. But now, reboots seem to be deleting my widgets.
T-Mobile's service is pretty bad for me - I know it's not really fair to count as a problem, but dropped calls are even worse than when I had the iPhone on ATT. That said, the problem is not so bad when I'm at home and not moving, and the HPSA speeds I get when I have "H" signal are very, very nice.
This is my 4th Android phone - while I love Google and all they do and stand for, I've actually gotten tired of waiting for the perfect Android experience. I thought SNS would be it, being the "Google phone" per se. Many frustrating bugs and glitches have lead up to one very dissapointing experience.
I hate to say it but I'll probably be eyeing the "iPhone 5" come summertime.

Five0nIt said:
I have the Vibrant now, but Bestbuy has the Nexus S for 100. How do you like your nexus? Anyone here go from the Vibrant to the Nexus?
Thanks for any input.
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Yes for the pure google experience
No due the hardware, there are better hardware on the market already
Yes for the price
No due the contract
...It's your choice to make
The ultimate question you should be asking yourself is
Do you want to FLASH ROMs and Customize the phone with very Nerdy and Geeky codes, not easy for the regular user, that just wants a phone to play with?
if you answer is Yes, then go for it
If you answer is no, not sure, not ready, not really, i don't know
then i'll suggest you to look for another phone

Charge not to impressed!!!!

I am to happy with this phone. Very disappointed ... why would Samsung on install 300k ram. ?? What were they thinking.
My fascinate was as good as this. Why did I get it?
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RichardZu said:
I am to happy with this phone. Very disappointed ... why would Samsung on install 300k ram. ?? What were they thinking.
My fascinate was as good as this. Why did I get it?
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Not sure why... dont let the door hit ya in the azz !!

RichardZu said:
I am to happy with this phone. Very disappointed ... why would Samsung on install 300k ram. ?? What were they thinking.
My fascinate was as good as this. Why did I get it?
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Did your fascinate have the capability to get 20 mpbs uh no. Its the best out of the 4g phones period. Lg phone sucks donkey balls. Tbolt is a dam nice phone love sense wife owns this phone. The battery life sucks azz though 2 /3 hrs tops. The only reason I did not buy that phone. Charge better display than any other lte phone, better battery life as well. Makes it a easy decision.

A very easy decision. Don't know why people talks down to this phone and in a few more weeks we will have so much ROM to make it even better, not that it's needs to be.

It has 550 ram but 220 is dedicated to functions you cant control. The other is for all your apps and system apps
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RichardZu said:
I am to happy with this phone. Very disappointed ... why would Samsung on install 300k ram. ?? What were they thinking.
My fascinate was as good as this. Why did I get it?
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please tell me english isn't your first language. This makes my head hurt trying to read it.

RichardZu said:
I am to happy with this phone. Very disappointed ... why would Samsung on install 300k ram. ?? What were they thinking.
My fascinate was as good as this. Why did I get it?
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I guess exercise your return policy?
SAMOLED+ > SAMOLED > Super LCD > TFT.
4.3" > 4" > 3.8" > 3.5".
4G/3G/1x > 3G/1x.
8MP Camera > 5MP Camera (and honestly, better than the 8MP on the DX2).
It has more than "300k" ram.
But, you know, some of the above is personal preference. It's perfectly fine if you don't like the phone.
I love it.

I love my Charge
great batt life and no lockups or anything like I was getting with the tbolt

Grammar and spelling are officially dead on the Internet

It has 512MB of RAM, with a portion of that being allocated to the GPU and some other things on the system, leaving you with ~330MB or so. The GPU needs some dedicated memory to get such good performance, and I'd rather not see it at all, than see it and not be able to use it.

Lets be honest. Out of the box this phone is a pos.
Ive returned mine once thinking i got a bunk phone. On my second droid charge now and im convinced this phone has some hardware issues and samsung built it as cheap as possible. I havent lost any pixils yet but im not sure any rom will make this a sold phone.

I don't understand why people start threads to complain about the phone they own. If you don't like it, fine. Either get rid of it or deal with it. Complaining makes you look:
A. Like a baby
And
B. Like someone who didn't do any research before buying.
Wah wah wahl... We all feel so bad for you.
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i wish more ppl complained about this phone before i bought it. . instead of all the BS reviews out there. woulda save me some time and frustration.

gregh530 said:
i wish more ppl complained about this phone before i bought it. . instead of all the BS reviews out there. woulda save me some time and frustration.
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The only thing I can gather, is that folks like you don't care about 4G and didn't start with a Thunderbolt. This phone is far superior to the Tbolt... making it the best Verizon 4G phone available.

I had a fascinate and stepped up the the charge... I really like the charge. I like the feel and the look of the charge. The only thing that's going to top this phone is going to be the galaxy s2, that is supposed to be released sometime in the third quarter for verizon.
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Keighles said:
I had a fascinate and stepped up the the charge... I really like the charge. I like the feel and the look of the charge. The only thing that's going to top this phone is going to be the galaxy s2, that is supposed to be released sometime in the third quarter for verizon.
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The only issue here is that there are talks that the SGS2 won't be LTE-capable If that's the case, it will make me really, really sad.
And seriously people, if you don't like the phone return it and gtfo. I'm kind of getting sick of hearing about it. Me, personally, I've owned almost every new Verizon and Sprint phone since the HTC Incredible. I love this phone.
If you have legitimate issues with the phone that you think this community can remedy or assist you with, feel free to voice and ask for assistance. But if you just come here to post a half-english half-button-mashed complaint with overuse of exclamation marks then please refrain

burningembers said:
The only issue here is that there are talks that the SGS2 won't be LTE-capable If that's the case, it will make me really, really sad.
And seriously people, if you don't like the phone return it and gtfo. I'm kind of getting sick of hearing about it. Me, personally, I've owned almost every new Verizon and Sprint phone since the HTC Incredible. I love this phone.
If you have legitimate issues with the phone that you think this community can remedy or assist you with, feel free to voice and ask for assistance. But if you just come here to post a half-english half-button-mashed complaint with overuse of exclamation marks then please refrain
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Agreed.
If you know what you are doing, this phone is just as good as any.
## wish there was more available ram. The browser takes 90 mb of ram to watch flash video... yikes
Other than that.... this phone rules! 20mbps download on the lte??? This thing is crazy fast... it's strange when you turn your wifi off because lte is faster... lol
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im coming from a mytouch4g from tmo so this phone is leaps and bounds better then my old phone. if you think you had a bunk phone and returned it and the second one is not working the way you think it should either then maybe it has something to do with user error not phone. the only thing i would complain about on this phone that the mt4g had it beat in was battery life. the battery life is horrible but thats ok with the amazing screen on this phone its expected

burningembers said:
The only issue here is that there are talks that the SGS2 won't be LTE-capable If that's the case, it will make me really, really sad.
And seriously people, if you don't like the phone return it and gtfo. I'm kind of getting sick of hearing about it. Me, personally, I've owned almost every new Verizon and Sprint phone since the HTC Incredible. I love this phone.
If you have legitimate issues with the phone that you think this community can remedy or assist you with, feel free to voice and ask for assistance. But if you just come here to post a half-english half-button-mashed complaint with overuse of exclamation marks then please refrain
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Agreed...if the sgs2 is not 4g lte. Then I think its a waist of resources and very disappointing.
Now that im running jt's voodoo kernal and imnuts v4 rom. Combined with the 4g lte . This phone rocks!!
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It will be lte with a rev2 chip. Rev2 chip is a radio that does cdma and lte without having different signal bars. It's not like the tb or charge. It doesn't add bulk. And the rev2 chip is known to save battery unlike our lte chips
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Galaxy S 4G for free

T Mobile has a web only deal for a Samsung Galaxy S 4G for free ending today.
For those of you that have one, can you please let me know what you think of it ? I guess it ends today so they can clear stock for the HTC sensation, but I dont think I'll be able to afford one of those, so this seems like a sweet deal.
some honest opinions would be appreciated, good or bad.

grifforama said:
T Mobile has a web only deal for a Samsung Galaxy S 4G for free ending today.
For those of you that have one, can you please let me know what you think of it ? I guess it ends today so they can clear stock for the HTC sensation, but I dont think I'll be able to afford one of those, so this seems like a sweet deal.
some honest opinions would be appreciated, good or bad.
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I bet its the same deal they did with the g2, you have to make a new plan/new line of service with a web plan to get the special deal. They wouldn't even work with me on the phone over it.

grifforama said:
T Mobile has a web only deal for a Samsung Galaxy S 4G for free ending today.
For those of you that have one, can you please let me know what you think of it ? I guess it ends today so they can clear stock for the HTC sensation, but I dont think I'll be able to afford one of those, so this seems like a sweet deal.
some honest opinions would be appreciated, good or bad.
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Get this phone cause I'm telling you ya won't regret it. Ever since one of the devs(drhonk) got the phone to test on things are blowing up around here(I mean that in a good way ) we have cwm and a few roms and alot of Tweaks that are gonna make that sgs4g fly and all your friends are gonna be like "wtf, I wish my phone would perform like that". Lol. But yes I would definitely recommended it especially if its for free. I mean come on that's a deal.
**edit** if what flyinbird93 says is true then that sucks I thought it was free upgrade when trading in your existing phone
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Yes, it's an online only deal, but it seems pretty awesome.
I'm giving up on Verizon since my home area is a known trouble spot, and they're letting me out of my contract for free.
So come on, be honest, let me know all the pros and cons...battery life ? Camera good ? Is Video chat any good ? Is the 4G service good ?

wow. didn't last long. out of stock already

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wow. didn't last long. out of stock already
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Too bad. I scored two for free with a new contract over mothers day weekend. Do not regret it at all. Get on the back order list off you can.
On the moon our weekends are so advanced they encompass the entire week

I'm trying to get my friend to get one but they are out of stock! Sucks!

There is no better phone, even for the 150-300 some could pay for it. I doubled my original speeds in one day just by grabbing the latest updates here. Trying to get my g/f to snag me another s4g for free during this deal for my daughter, its gonna be a family phone here, lol.

Got the same deal
They had this deal about a month and a half back. This is how I ended up with the phone. I switched over from sprint and am loving every minute of it. Not too big on the unlimited data but only 2gb of high speed cap they have in place but its cool. There is a lot going on with this phone right now to make it really bad ass, hell it is a beast completely stock.

i've had the SGS4G for a little over a month and i love it, and its gotten better the past few weeks with all the roms and other dev stuff coming out for it. it's prob just as good as the HTC Sensation for the value since you'd be paying a lot more for the Sensation now. the specs are pretty equal i think, the only thing is that it doesnt have a notification LED and no camera flash/LED either, but thats not too big an issue so i dont mind as much now.

Liquid Smoke said:
i've had the SGS4G for a little over a month and i love it, and its gotten better the past few weeks with all the roms and other dev stuff coming out for it. it's prob just as good as the HTC Sensation for the value since you'd be paying a lot more for the Sensation now. the specs are pretty equal i think, the only thing is that it doesnt have a notification LED and no camera flash/LED either, but thats not too big an issue so i dont mind as much now.
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I have no complaints about the phone myself. I was sad about the internal storage but once you fota fix that problem is solved. As far as notification light - I use Bali kernel which has BLN support. My four buttons on the bottom light up whenever I have a notification. The ext4 mod makes my phone super snappy and responsive and I can't wait until we get voodoo on top of that.
My co-worker used the Sensation over the weekend and said it seems to have some odd connectivity issues when making phone calls/texts/using data. http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/HTC-SENSATION-4G/Sensation-4G-Data-Connectivity-Issues/td-p/875585 Every phone has it's flaws but I hope it isn't plagued by bugs like the G2X (which is an AWESOME phone but just needs a software update).
Don't get me wrong, The Sensation is a beast but I'm not a big fan of Sense UI. I prefer Go Launcher or Launcher Pro. Heck I'd even use the stock Gingerbread launcher over Sense. If you try to run an alternate launcher over Sense it seems to bog the phone down (at least on pre-dual core phones). This probably wont be a problem once they unlock the bootloader though.

Let the results speak for them selves I mean were literally blowing other phone out the water thanks to this community.
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matthenry87 said:
As far as notification light - I use Bali kernel which has BLN support. My four buttons on the bottom light up whenever I have a notification.
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Can you point me in the right direction for this mod? I have frost bionix running, and this mod would just be the icing on the cake. Thanks!
Also, I took advantage of this deal and now my dad will have one of these awesome phones just in time for fathers day. We got the 200 mb data free for a year too. If you take advantage of this deal, make sure to call and ask for free data/10.00 off your data (if you want more than 200 mb)
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Sure. The kernel that bionix comes with has bln support. You need to download the bln app from the market. To make it work you need to push a file to /system/lib/hw. You can find a link to the post that has this file on the bali kernel's thread. It's the fix by chadster I believe.
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Thanks for the info! I appreciate the quick response.
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[Q] Trade my shift for nexus S???

Ok,Here me out I know this has been asked but I have a different situation and reall y need input as of right now I've read so many reviews and heard so many diff opinions I just want some help on here.
Ok so I bought the shift 11 days ago and realized while I have no problems with it I do want the most out of my upgrade, that being said I turned my attention towards the nexus S, also by the way I only wanted to spend 100 dollars no more than that or I would've gotten the Evo 3d or some other dual core awesome phone. Anyways, I know I would give up the hardware keyboard but feel this is inevitable and something I will eventually do. However the NS has a faster processor, better screen, bigger screen, no crap sprint apps you cant get rid of and a forward facing camera which is a big positive for me.
Heres the deal though I never go against reviews and all the stats say that the Shift wins by like a whole start on every review site. That being said a sprint tech said they have more returns on shifts than the NS and that he loves his NS. So I go in considering the trade and the salesman comforted me saying he wouldn't make the trade. I took his advice then got home and thought well of course the salesman said that it'd be cheaper and they'd have to refund me about 50 bucks and a hundred in the long run. Also I read it has bad wifi problems is that true? I'm sorry for the disorder of this post, I'm just extremely frustrated and don't have much time.
SO I know this has been long, but in eveyones opinion what would you do? i know the NS feels cheaper but I mean does that matter? With a nice case, a zag full body cover and insurance should that matter? Also, the 16gb no sd card thing doesn't bother me I don't think I'll ever and never have exceeded 4gb.
I only have 2 days to decide.
Thanks everyone in advance

Idk about the wifi or reception issues since I have the GSM version but the nexus s is much better than the shift in every way unless u like hardware keyboards. Its not as flimsy as everyone makes it seem, its a really solid and well built phone. easy decision.
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HAve you rooted it? I really don't want to but heard that the reception was fixed with last upgrade BUT they also got rid of the free hotspot which sucks. Do you use the forward facing camera?? THis is a key feature to me I really want to be good. Thanks so much man I just don't know I really appreciate any input.

Autumus said:
HAve you rooted it? I really don't want to but heard that the reception was fixed with last upgrade BUT they also got rid of the free hotspot which sucks. Do you use the forward facing camera?? THis is a key feature to me I really want to be good. Thanks so much man I just don't know I really appreciate any input.
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Yeah I rooted it since its so simple to do. Im running stock with a different kernel. Yeah I've used the front facer for Skype and gtalk, works well. I can't comment on the update for sprint because the update for GSM phones didn't stop the hotspot feature. But flashing a different rom will fix that for you and its really easy to do on this phone so you won't run into any difficulties.
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Geez thanks so much seriously. I'm a noob at the concept of rooting my last phone was a shift and I couldn't stand it. I read the shift rooting info and was like no theres no way I can do this. Thanks!

OH and one last question it seems you can't push emails to it other than gmail is this true? I can't imagine this being true and the sprint tech said you could, just want to confirm with someone other than a sprint tech.

Autumus said:
OH and one last question it seems you can't push emails to it other than gmail is this true? I can't imagine this being true and the sprint tech said you could, just want to confirm with someone other than a sprint tech.
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I only have Gmail and hotmail accounts. There's a Microsoft hotmail app that just came out that does push email, I think yahoo has an app too. Im not sure how the built in email app works but I'm sure that does push as well.
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I would switch in a heartbeat and never look back.
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My last phone was an Evo 4g and I don't regret switching to the NS4G one bit.
No wifi issues, or any other for that matter.
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No reception or wifi issues I promise you. Return ur phone to Sprint and go to Best Buy you'll get the Nexus for free. Honestly would rather have this phone over the 3d or the photon. You won't be disappointed.
Edit, Best Buy is also selling the photon for 99 with the upgrade as well.
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wow man thanks so much, unfortunately the best buy thing is only for NEW two year plans not upgrades womp womp still they'll have to give me 50$ back for what everyone seems to think is a better phone thanks so much to everyone any other comments are much welcomed I'd really like to hear anyones experience with the forward facing camera

WOw thanks all so much, and all other comments much welcomed, I'd love to hear any other experiences with the forward cam thanks!

You could always just sell the Shift on eBay and buy a Nexus. I paid $225 for mine last week and I'm sure the price will drop even more in the very near future.
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Front camera takes great pictures and looks good on chat, I use Skype, oovoo, n tango. All works really well.
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You need together the nexus s tomorrow!!!
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The NExus will get a quick update too right? LIke it will be one of the first to receive Ice Cream Sandwich right???

Autumus said:
The NExus will get a quick update too right? LIke it will be one of the first to receive Ice Cream Sandwich right???
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yea I think it will have ics after a month or two after the nexus prime comes out, but it will be the first single core to get ics. im pretty sure most of the single core phone wont even get ics but i could be wrong. lol

Do you think it will be able to properly run ICS? everything I've read says yes and that most likely hardware acceleration will actually make the NS faster and better, do you all agree with that?

I was in ths same boat as you. I came over from a hero read all ths reviews yada yada yada. I had no idea about root or anything. After doing a little but of reading I was able to root and Get the wireless hotspot back without any problems. Reception isn't bad at all on my phone, and I'm on wifi allll the time ABC it gets the sans signal strengths as my viao. As you said no bloatware to is great, along with knowing besides prime nexus a will get ICS before other phones. I had an eco for 3 days in a trial before the ns4g and am happy I switched. I am on the sprint network, and live in CO and even with where I work in the mountains hardly ever drop calls same with my widest nexus service reception is still great and fast enough to video chat which we do often and love on our phones using the front camera. Hope that helps!

The hard "lessons learned" from buying the Droid Charge

Let's see:
Lack of run time memory - check
Bloatware from Samsung and Verizon - check, check
Not able to buy many apps due to lack of memory unless you root the phone - check
Phone that should be recalled because of poorly built charge port - check
Verizon telling Google not to sell tethering software, FCC lawsuit, Verizon pays 1.5 million - check while we can't buy the software until a couple of months ago (legally) - check
Charging $299 and no ICS or JB plus we almost didn't get an upgrade period. Buy the OS that's on the phone and don't believe their promises - check, check, check, and check
Loss of unlimited plan for next phone - check
That's enough checks...I''ve learned my lesson many times over, how about you?

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PSA... don't buy cheap android phones. Infact, don't buy phones from VZW unless you shop at Costco.

dbaps said:
Let's see:
Lack of run time memory - check
Bloatware from Samsung and Verizon - check, check
Not able to buy many apps due to lack of memory unless you root the phone - check
Phone that should be recalled because of poorly built charge port - check
Verizon telling Google not to sell tethering software, FCC lawsuit, Verizon pays 1.5 million - check while we can't buy the software until a couple of months ago (legally) - check
Charging $299 and no ICS or JB plus we almost didn't get an upgrade period. Buy the OS that's on the phone and don't believe their promises - check, check, check, and check
Loss of unlimited plan for next phone - check
That's enough checks...I''ve learned my lesson many times over, how about you?
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I like my Charge now that I'm able to run Tweaked 3 on it. It was the first 4g smart phone that Samsung put out. It's not perfect but at the time it was better than both the Thunderbolt and the Revolution. Of course all the later phones are better. What do you expect?
Of course it was overpriced. It's an early model. Look at the number of smart phones that have been sold since. A Commodore 64 computer was over $2,000. Look at what you get now for about $500. That's the way of electronics. It's the price we pay for being early adopters.
The only problem I have is terrible data signals at work. But that's a network problem. Verizon is having some trouble trying to implement 4g signal nationwide. That's to be expected. You didn't get ripped off. You just paid the price for being an early adopter.

All I hear is b*tching and moaning. When I bought this phone, it was the best one out. If I had to go back and buy again, I'd still pick this phone.
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dbaps said:
Bloatware from Samsung and Verizon - check, check
Not able to buy many apps due to lack of memory unless you root the phone - check
Phone that should be recalled because of poorly built charge port - check
Verizon telling Google not to sell tethering software, FCC lawsuit, Verizon pays 1.5 million - check while we can't buy the software until a couple of months ago (legally) - check
Charging $299 and no ICS or JB plus we almost didn't get an upgrade period. Buy the OS that's on the phone and don't believe their promises - check, check, check, and check
Loss of unlimited plan for next phone - check
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1. This is on EVERY phone. Have you even been to a Verizon store lately and played with a new one? IT STILL HAS BLOATWARE.
2. This is because most apps are now geared towards much more powerful devices. It's not the end of the world. And if you know about XDA, this shouldn't be a problem.
3. I've seriously never had a problem with this, and even very few on this forum have had an issue. Maybe it's operator error!
4. If this actually affected you, maybe you shouldn't have an android phone. Tethering apps were still very readily available.
5. Again, this was the best device out when it was new. You can't predict the future, so you're taking a gamble when you buy it. Most phones of this era are stuck on GB too. They never made ANY promises.
6. Okay, I have no response to this. It seriously sucks. But that's with EVERY phone, and your thread implies that it's the Charge's fault.
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I feel wronged by Verizon because of losing unlimited data too. I was told when I shelled out the $299 for the phone that I would have unlimited data as long as I kept a smart phone on my account. I guess I understand why they've backed out of it. Too many 4g phones using unlimited data plus subsidizing all the new phones would be expensive. But still, they promised me I'd always have unlimited data. If I could get decent signal where I work I could listen to Pandora or stream an occasional Netflix movie and I could use up 2 GB data pretty easy. But as it is I don't use a lot of data. I would if I could. Believe me.
I was checking out the data coverage of the major cellular networks earlier today and it still looks like Verizon is the top dog. The others have quite a bit of catching up to do. I can upgrade on 1/22/12 with the discount. My contract ends in May. We'll see what develops. Since my Charge has become such a cool phone I don't mind using it for a while at all. It's getting a little beat up looking but that awesome Gorilla Glass screen is still in good shape.

It was the best phone at the time
I will say this, even though I listed all of those "issues," unlimited (grand-fathered) LTE made it all worthwhile. I don't regret getting the phone either.
When LTE first came out, it was faster than my home Fios connection. To be able to watch podcasts at work and not worry about the amount of data being used has been awesome. My neighbor cut our Fios line outside and we used the LTE connection as a hotspot for five devices in my house until it was fixed.
But I must admit that until buying this phone, I never would of thought to check the amount of memory utilization on a phone.
I also agree it was the best phone at the time on Verizon.
I can't wait for March and my next phone.

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I will say this, even though I listed all of those "issues," unlimited (grand-fathered) LTE made it all worthwhile. I don't regret getting the phone either.
When LTE first came out, it was faster than my home Fios connection. To be able to watch podcasts at work and not worry about the amount of data being used has been awesome. My neighbor cut our Fios line outside and we used the LTE connection as a hotspot for five devices in my house until it was fixed.
But I must admit that until buying this phone, I never would of thought to check the amount of memory utilization on a phone.
I also agree it was the best phone at the time on Verizon.
I can't wait for March and my next phone.
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I must admit, your original post was kinda funny...
however, I challenge you to find me one person that has had their smartphone for more than 2 years and is not considering getting a different phone....

I still have my DC. I heard there a was an ICS ROM out for it somewhere. But besides that I've had my USCC Mesmerize for over a year now. We got all kinds of ICS and JB ROMs from the Fascinate on VZW. Being development is good there's been no need to upgrade. Really wish the DC would get more love.
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jco23 said:
I must admit, your original post was kinda funny...
however, I challenge you to find me one person that has had their smartphone for more than 2 years and is not considering getting a different phone....
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Yeah it's pretty much impossible to look at the new phones without wanting one when the one you have is so seriously under powered. If we weren't able to run a good debloated rom like Tweaked we'd be screwed. The Charge seriously doesn't have enough ram.
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hmm, i can upgrade right now, upgrade again tomorrow, upgrade again in a few months and keep my unlimited data. it's your choice if you have to have a new phone and start up a new 2yr contract. i don't have any reason to and will just pick up phones off contract. wait a year or a few months less and they generally drop for $300 or less.

stueycaster said:
Yeah it's pretty much impossible to look at the new phones without wanting one when the one you have is so seriously under powered. If we weren't able to run a good debloated rom like Tweaked we'd be screwed. The Charge seriously doesn't have enough ram.
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At the time I bought this phone, there were two 4G phones choices, and you had the option of a little more power under the hood with the Thunderbolt, or much better battery life (Like. 3X better. The battery life on the Thunderbolt was HORRID) and a better screen with the Droid Charge.
I wish there were more options with ROMs for this phone, but that's literally my only disappointment with it.
That said, my upgrade isn't far off, and I certainly look forward to a new phone, but c'est la vie. It's served me well for almost two years, now.

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I wish there were more options with ROMs for this phone, but that's literally my only disappointment with it.
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Yeah there are only a few roms available but Tweaked is awesome. No others are needed.
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stueycaster said:
Yeah it's pretty much impossible to look at the new phones without wanting one when the one you have is so seriously under powered. If we weren't able to run a good debloated rom like Tweaked we'd be screwed. The Charge seriously doesn't have enough ram.
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Yeah there are only a few roms available but Tweaked is awesome. No others are needed.
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Oh, I agree that it's darn good (And is what I'm running).
But I'd love for AOSP to be available on the phone, so we could move to ICS (And JB, and beyond) instead of being stuck with the whims of Samsung who decided to not upgrade the Charge to ICS because they couldn't also port TouchWiz...

I still miss my charge..Verizon has tried sending nexus and s3 and neither has been as stable as my droid charge was..mind you they send refurbished phones so I understand why I can't get a perfect phone..Verizon insurance is good in the aspect of getting unlimited replacements but almost 95% of what they send is ****..at least I still have my unlimited and on a sketchy ass s3..I will prob be selling this phone in the next month or 2 so I can upgrade
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I would probably trade
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jager420 said:
I still miss my charge..Verizon has tried sending nexus and s3 and neither has been as stable as my droid charge was..mind you they send refurbished phones so I understand why I can't get a perfect phone..Verizon insurance is good in the aspect of getting unlimited replacements but almost 95% of what they send is ****..at least I still have my unlimited and on a sketchy ass s3..I will prob be selling this phone in the next month or 2 so I can upgrade
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That's a bash of the Verizon CLNR program more than it is the phones. When I had to send my Rezound back, it took 3 tries to get a "like new" replacement that was actually like new. The first replacement had a screen that was lifting completely off the phone. The second replacement's USB port died within 2 weeks. Their "100-point check" is a complete joke.

It took me three Charges to get a working one. First one had a software meltdown, and the second one wouldn't accept a charge. Now this one is having issues with data when on Tweaked (I'm running CM 10 so obviously i don't have data now, but the problems started earlier). Got another year before my upgrade...
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I bought my charge as CLNR back in 9/2011 ($100 at the time, I think). still running great, thanks to this community.