Let's see:
Lack of run time memory - check
Bloatware from Samsung and Verizon - check, check
Not able to buy many apps due to lack of memory unless you root the phone - check
Phone that should be recalled because of poorly built charge port - check
Verizon telling Google not to sell tethering software, FCC lawsuit, Verizon pays 1.5 million - check while we can't buy the software until a couple of months ago (legally) - check
Charging $299 and no ICS or JB plus we almost didn't get an upgrade period. Buy the OS that's on the phone and don't believe their promises - check, check, check, and check
Loss of unlimited plan for next phone - check
That's enough checks...I''ve learned my lesson many times over, how about you?
The reason for this is...?
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The reason for this is...?
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PSA... don't buy cheap android phones. Infact, don't buy phones from VZW unless you shop at Costco.
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Let's see:
Lack of run time memory - check
Bloatware from Samsung and Verizon - check, check
Not able to buy many apps due to lack of memory unless you root the phone - check
Phone that should be recalled because of poorly built charge port - check
Verizon telling Google not to sell tethering software, FCC lawsuit, Verizon pays 1.5 million - check while we can't buy the software until a couple of months ago (legally) - check
Charging $299 and no ICS or JB plus we almost didn't get an upgrade period. Buy the OS that's on the phone and don't believe their promises - check, check, check, and check
Loss of unlimited plan for next phone - check
That's enough checks...I''ve learned my lesson many times over, how about you?
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I like my Charge now that I'm able to run Tweaked 3 on it. It was the first 4g smart phone that Samsung put out. It's not perfect but at the time it was better than both the Thunderbolt and the Revolution. Of course all the later phones are better. What do you expect?
Of course it was overpriced. It's an early model. Look at the number of smart phones that have been sold since. A Commodore 64 computer was over $2,000. Look at what you get now for about $500. That's the way of electronics. It's the price we pay for being early adopters.
The only problem I have is terrible data signals at work. But that's a network problem. Verizon is having some trouble trying to implement 4g signal nationwide. That's to be expected. You didn't get ripped off. You just paid the price for being an early adopter.
All I hear is b*tching and moaning. When I bought this phone, it was the best one out. If I had to go back and buy again, I'd still pick this phone.
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Bloatware from Samsung and Verizon - check, check
Not able to buy many apps due to lack of memory unless you root the phone - check
Phone that should be recalled because of poorly built charge port - check
Verizon telling Google not to sell tethering software, FCC lawsuit, Verizon pays 1.5 million - check while we can't buy the software until a couple of months ago (legally) - check
Charging $299 and no ICS or JB plus we almost didn't get an upgrade period. Buy the OS that's on the phone and don't believe their promises - check, check, check, and check
Loss of unlimited plan for next phone - check
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1. This is on EVERY phone. Have you even been to a Verizon store lately and played with a new one? IT STILL HAS BLOATWARE.
2. This is because most apps are now geared towards much more powerful devices. It's not the end of the world. And if you know about XDA, this shouldn't be a problem.
3. I've seriously never had a problem with this, and even very few on this forum have had an issue. Maybe it's operator error!
4. If this actually affected you, maybe you shouldn't have an android phone. Tethering apps were still very readily available.
5. Again, this was the best device out when it was new. You can't predict the future, so you're taking a gamble when you buy it. Most phones of this era are stuck on GB too. They never made ANY promises.
6. Okay, I have no response to this. It seriously sucks. But that's with EVERY phone, and your thread implies that it's the Charge's fault.
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I feel wronged by Verizon because of losing unlimited data too. I was told when I shelled out the $299 for the phone that I would have unlimited data as long as I kept a smart phone on my account. I guess I understand why they've backed out of it. Too many 4g phones using unlimited data plus subsidizing all the new phones would be expensive. But still, they promised me I'd always have unlimited data. If I could get decent signal where I work I could listen to Pandora or stream an occasional Netflix movie and I could use up 2 GB data pretty easy. But as it is I don't use a lot of data. I would if I could. Believe me.
I was checking out the data coverage of the major cellular networks earlier today and it still looks like Verizon is the top dog. The others have quite a bit of catching up to do. I can upgrade on 1/22/12 with the discount. My contract ends in May. We'll see what develops. Since my Charge has become such a cool phone I don't mind using it for a while at all. It's getting a little beat up looking but that awesome Gorilla Glass screen is still in good shape.
It was the best phone at the time
I will say this, even though I listed all of those "issues," unlimited (grand-fathered) LTE made it all worthwhile. I don't regret getting the phone either.
When LTE first came out, it was faster than my home Fios connection. To be able to watch podcasts at work and not worry about the amount of data being used has been awesome. My neighbor cut our Fios line outside and we used the LTE connection as a hotspot for five devices in my house until it was fixed.
But I must admit that until buying this phone, I never would of thought to check the amount of memory utilization on a phone.
I also agree it was the best phone at the time on Verizon.
I can't wait for March and my next phone.
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I will say this, even though I listed all of those "issues," unlimited (grand-fathered) LTE made it all worthwhile. I don't regret getting the phone either.
When LTE first came out, it was faster than my home Fios connection. To be able to watch podcasts at work and not worry about the amount of data being used has been awesome. My neighbor cut our Fios line outside and we used the LTE connection as a hotspot for five devices in my house until it was fixed.
But I must admit that until buying this phone, I never would of thought to check the amount of memory utilization on a phone.
I also agree it was the best phone at the time on Verizon.
I can't wait for March and my next phone.
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I must admit, your original post was kinda funny...
however, I challenge you to find me one person that has had their smartphone for more than 2 years and is not considering getting a different phone....
I still have my DC. I heard there a was an ICS ROM out for it somewhere. But besides that I've had my USCC Mesmerize for over a year now. We got all kinds of ICS and JB ROMs from the Fascinate on VZW. Being development is good there's been no need to upgrade. Really wish the DC would get more love.
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I must admit, your original post was kinda funny...
however, I challenge you to find me one person that has had their smartphone for more than 2 years and is not considering getting a different phone....
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Yeah it's pretty much impossible to look at the new phones without wanting one when the one you have is so seriously under powered. If we weren't able to run a good debloated rom like Tweaked we'd be screwed. The Charge seriously doesn't have enough ram.
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Loss of unlimited plan for next phone - check
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hmm, i can upgrade right now, upgrade again tomorrow, upgrade again in a few months and keep my unlimited data. it's your choice if you have to have a new phone and start up a new 2yr contract. i don't have any reason to and will just pick up phones off contract. wait a year or a few months less and they generally drop for $300 or less.
stueycaster said:
Yeah it's pretty much impossible to look at the new phones without wanting one when the one you have is so seriously under powered. If we weren't able to run a good debloated rom like Tweaked we'd be screwed. The Charge seriously doesn't have enough ram.
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At the time I bought this phone, there were two 4G phones choices, and you had the option of a little more power under the hood with the Thunderbolt, or much better battery life (Like. 3X better. The battery life on the Thunderbolt was HORRID) and a better screen with the Droid Charge.
I wish there were more options with ROMs for this phone, but that's literally my only disappointment with it.
That said, my upgrade isn't far off, and I certainly look forward to a new phone, but c'est la vie. It's served me well for almost two years, now.
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I wish there were more options with ROMs for this phone, but that's literally my only disappointment with it.
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Yeah there are only a few roms available but Tweaked is awesome. No others are needed.
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stueycaster said:
Yeah it's pretty much impossible to look at the new phones without wanting one when the one you have is so seriously under powered. If we weren't able to run a good debloated rom like Tweaked we'd be screwed. The Charge seriously doesn't have enough ram.
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Yeah there are only a few roms available but Tweaked is awesome. No others are needed.
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Oh, I agree that it's darn good (And is what I'm running).
But I'd love for AOSP to be available on the phone, so we could move to ICS (And JB, and beyond) instead of being stuck with the whims of Samsung who decided to not upgrade the Charge to ICS because they couldn't also port TouchWiz...
I still miss my charge..Verizon has tried sending nexus and s3 and neither has been as stable as my droid charge was..mind you they send refurbished phones so I understand why I can't get a perfect phone..Verizon insurance is good in the aspect of getting unlimited replacements but almost 95% of what they send is ****..at least I still have my unlimited and on a sketchy ass s3..I will prob be selling this phone in the next month or 2 so I can upgrade
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Wanna trade?
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I would probably trade
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jager420 said:
I still miss my charge..Verizon has tried sending nexus and s3 and neither has been as stable as my droid charge was..mind you they send refurbished phones so I understand why I can't get a perfect phone..Verizon insurance is good in the aspect of getting unlimited replacements but almost 95% of what they send is ****..at least I still have my unlimited and on a sketchy ass s3..I will prob be selling this phone in the next month or 2 so I can upgrade
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That's a bash of the Verizon CLNR program more than it is the phones. When I had to send my Rezound back, it took 3 tries to get a "like new" replacement that was actually like new. The first replacement had a screen that was lifting completely off the phone. The second replacement's USB port died within 2 weeks. Their "100-point check" is a complete joke.
It took me three Charges to get a working one. First one had a software meltdown, and the second one wouldn't accept a charge. Now this one is having issues with data when on Tweaked (I'm running CM 10 so obviously i don't have data now, but the problems started earlier). Got another year before my upgrade...
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I bought my charge as CLNR back in 9/2011 ($100 at the time, I think). still running great, thanks to this community.
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ok guys i need ur gelp, i only got a 1/2 hour to decide. i found a great deal on a tb but i dont know if i should get it.
are you guys happy with the phone?
would u get a diff 4g phone
how is the batt?
a list of pros n cons would be great
might buy it for 175 used. i got burn with the fascinate and i dont wanna do the same.
tge reason i want a 4g phone is to lock in unlimited 4g before the limited plans get in.
Best 4g lte phone imo. Just make sure to get an extended battery down the road.
Great speeds
OK screen
Great dev support
Not so great battery life on standard battery
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Get the damn TB. Put some BAMF on it. Enjoy.
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I can usually get from 8-16 hours from the thunderbolt on the standard battery, depending on use of course. I am sitting in wifi mostly, running das Bamf 1.8.6 right now. Over the weekend, I got 28 hours on a single charge on 3G, but I didn't use it much at all - just emails, a few websites but there was about an hour of pandora in there.
If you're interested in rooting/ROMing, I think the TB is definitely the best choice
I thought the Samsung phone was pretty good. Ofcourse I am not sure if it is worth the extra money, it probably sells for more than TB.
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Not saying this cause I own one, thunderbolt hands down. The development community alone should be enough to make it the most appealing LTE device.
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I was wondering the same thing. Hardware wise the charge is superior but developer wise the thunderbolt has more support. I bought my tbolt used in like new condition for $350. The price jacked up once the tiered data plans were leaked. At $175 check to make sure the esn is clean and then go for it!
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I thought the Samsung phone was pretty good. Ofcourse I am not sure if it is worth the extra money, it probably sells for more than TB.
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Samsung and I are not friends. Innovative products, poor product support. Their way of fixing things is releasing a new device. This has been my experience anyway.
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Not to be rude but no peons or cons list?
And as far as you guys know what exactly is grandfather in?
If I have unlimited data and I choose to upgrade later to a 4g non contract would I keep unlimited?
jonagpa said:
Not to be rude but no peons or cons list?
And as far as you guys know what exactly is grandfather in?
If I have unlimited data and I choose to upgrade later to a 4g non contract would I keep unlimited?
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According to what's been floating around so far yes you do.
I also gave you two cons in my reply. Want me to start making up stuff?
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lrs421 said:
According to what's been floating around so far yes you do.
I also gave you two cons in my reply. Want me to start making up stuff?
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No, hahah sorry kinda stressed out abou it for some reason
I am getting it just in case they say u can't be grandfathered in for the 4g. I don't even have 4g here but 4g is the future and I only pay 10 for unlimited ( I got this crazy promotional deal last November) n I don't wanna lose it when I do get 4g around here.
I have to say I'm impressed with the Thunderbolt, and I'm not an Android guy. Well Im totally an Android guy, now. If I had gotten any other phone available currently, I would have passed it off in a week.
The thunderbolt's quality combined with developer support and the online community just form a smartphone-holy trinity.
I have an iPad 2, iPad, iPhone 4, and Thunderbolt. The short battery life the first three days was a con. Then I started customizing my settings, and about 3 hours after ordering an extended battery I realized "Oh ****, I've been pushing this dude pretty hard for 10 hours."
Needless to say, I only use it when I'm going to be out all night and she's pretty enough that I may not charge it first thing in the morning.
Rooted Thunderbolt on BAMF Sense 3.0 RC 4 with MR2 radio and latest dreamKernel.
By the way, I see you're in Queens. I work in Long Island City and get great 4g speeds. About 25 down and 5 up.
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jonagpa said:
Not to be rude but no peons or cons list?
And as far as you guys know what exactly is grandfather in?
If I have unlimited data and I choose to upgrade later to a 4g non contract would I keep unlimited?
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you keep unlimited as long as you keep your plan (3g/4g doesn't make a difference), they have said that as long as you are unlimited with smartphone data, you are good (according to engadget). If you change your base plan in any way, then you will lose the unlimited data.
Thunderbolt is a great phone with minor hiccups stock. Charge has better battery life and a better screen. Thunderbolt has a lot better dev support as do most htc products. Thunderbolt comes with 40gb total memory, not sure about the Charge.
Every Charge I've played with has just dragged. I attribute it to the way Samsung distributed the ram. Their battery life sucks too. I can get 2 days out of my TB. I've used a Charge that regularly loses 40% in 3 hours.
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Thunderbolt is a great phone with minor hiccups stock. Charge has better battery life and a better screen. Thunderbolt has a lot better dev support as do most htc products. Thunderbolt comes with 40gb total memory, not sure about the Charge.
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Why do HTC phones have better dev support, just curious? This is my first Android phone, so forgive me if I am missing something obvious here, could have googled it, etc. Thanks!
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I love my thunderbolt. I bought it used for $350 went to verizon to activate told him it was used and he asked if I wanted insurance. I said sure. Had an issue that was within 14 days of purchase and they gave me a new in box. Yeah I know people will ***** I screwed verizon but people have a job and should be trained. Since I have had no problems, love the Roms put out and 4g is great.
I can't believe that nobody had mentioned that the.TB is the only verizon phone with voice and simultaneous data thanks to its dual antennas.
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I like my TB, but this is my first Android phone so I can't really compare. People have gone over the pros for the phone, and I agree with them. Here are a couple of potential cons. #1 is the phone sound quality. I personally don't find it that great, and to me Verizon iPhone (my wife has one) sounds better. I thought the phone amp was such a basic part that it should never be an issue, but surprisingly it is an issue for me. #2 is the 4g battery drain bug. The good thing is that not everyone has it, and I hope MR2 radio finally fixes it (testing that right now). Other than that it has been a great phone for me, and I am definitely enjoying the dev support, thanks to the devs and people offering help on this forum!
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I like my TB, but this is my first Android phone so I can't really compare. People have gone over the pros for the phone, and I agree with them. Here are a couple of potential cons. #1 is the phone sound quality. I personally don't find it that great, and to me Verizon iPhone (my wife has one) sounds better. I thought the phone amp was such a basic part that it should never be an issue, but surprisingly it is an issue for me. #2 is the 4g battery drain bug. The good thing is that not everyone has it, and I hope MR2 radio finally fixes it (testing that right now). Other than that it has been a great phone for me, and I am definitely enjoying the dev support, thanks to the devs and people offering help on this forum!
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It will sound better if you pull the kickstand out, even if that's a little inconvenient.
I'm thinking about it, is anyone else?
Has anyone of you played with one yet? I hear they have CM7 on it already....
After jumping to several new phones and then being pissed while waiting on a good ROM to come out, I have finally seen the light. I am no longer jumping to a new phone the second it comes out. When I see that there's a good amount of dev being done on a device, then I'll switch. That's right around the time something new comes out... So, I'll still be upgrading every year or so, but about 6 months after the new stuff gets released.
Thankful for the devs that make these phones great!
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And when I do swap, it'll probably be for the Prime...
No, the Charge is a quality device and I will be happy with it until there is a phone launched with ICS on Verizon. The Bionic has no guarantee for timely software updates and comes with too much bloatware for my taste. Honestly, I only bought the Charge to have unlimited 4G data. I would have rather just waited for a device with ICS but Verizon forced my hand.
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The Bionic has way too many disadvantages for me starting with the awful looking washed out/grainy pentile screen, the camera sucks etc etc etc
My boss had one for two days & I played with it constantly before he returned it. Neither of us where impressed with the thing at all.
~John
No way. This phone does everything I need and more. The screen is awesome by the way.
Phil Salm
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I am spoiled rotten by Super AMOLED and + displays. There is no way I would be happy, content, or even mildly okay with a pentile fuzzy screen. If something comes out that is faster, has more memory, AND has an awesome screen then I may consider it. I don't have to have a screen as good at the Super AMOLED or Super AMOLED+, but they sure have set the bar really high for me.
The screen was the deal breaker for me, no point in having a super fast phone if it looks like s*!#
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wait for the prime!! it will b the best phone relesed probably till GS3
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I'm thinking about it, is anyone else?
Has anyone of you played with one yet? I hear they have CM7 on it already....
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I agree with the other posters who say no way, but wanted to add that CM7 is not on the Bionic. It boots but that is about it.
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I agree with the other posters who say no way, but wanted to add that CM7 is not on the Bionic. It boots but that is about it.
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it boots on the charge as well.. AND JT IS WORKING ON IT!!! why would u want to go to another phone when were getting more and more devs!
Originally got the charge to get unlimited 4g and probably won't replace it until galaxy nexus or droid prime is out. Can't live without an amoled screen now...
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I don't even need to comment. What everyone is saying is right on. Bionic is a bunch of hype.
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bluevolume said:
Is it just me, or is anyone else sick of these threads? Honestly, the Charge has only been out a few months. Anyone who bought it is still well short of their upgrade date, so why would they be thinking about upgrading already?
Too much anxiety over these phones!
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I am a little sick of these threads too. I, and many other Charge users, might sell this phone and buy a full retail device if what they were waiting for originally comes out.
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bluevolume said:
Is it just me, or is anyone else sick of these threads? Honestly, the Charge has only been out a few months. Anyone who bought it is still well short of their upgrade date, so why would they be thinking about upgrading already?
Too much anxiety over these phones!
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Not everyone buys phones on contract, so that's why people would upgrade already.
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Not everyone buys phones on contract, so that's why people would upgrade already.
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AMEN Brother
I've had just about all the smartphones out & only 2 or 3 have been an upgrade
I am on contract but don't mind selling the phone to recoup some of my loss..
Two reasons why I'm thinking of moving away from the DC.
1. Handset speaker volume to low during a call...yes I have it all the way up!
2. No matter what ROM I use, the phone gets laggy after a few days and needs rebooting to clear. Using Zeam as launcher right now too!
Battery life is ok, get about 2 - 2.5 hrs of "screen time" a day
I do love the screen though...except for the over saturated colors....wish there was an app to adjust saturation
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I am on contract but don't mind selling the phone to recoup some of my loss..
Two reasons why I'm thinking of moving away from the DC.
1. Handset speaker volume to low during a call...yes I have it all the way up!
2. No matter what ROM I use, the phone gets laggy after a few days and needs rebooting to clear. Using Zeam as launcher right now too!
Battery life is ok, get about 2 - 2.5 hrs of "screen time" a day
I do love the screen though...except for the over saturated colors....wish there was an app to adjust saturation
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Well, I have to totally agree with you on all of those. #2 is the one that really kills me, especially when you are trying to do something as simple as making a phonecall.
We need a good app like QuickGamma, that would fix the colors with the screen. Red is WAY overblown!
The bionic's screen is horrendous ..
I am selling to get the htc vigor.. thing looks aamazing and I am an htc fanboi after having the incredible.
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bluevolume said:
Is it just me, or is anyone else sick of these threads? Honestly, the Charge has only been out a few months. Anyone who bought it is still well short of their upgrade date, so why would they be thinking about upgrading already?
Too much anxiety over these phones!
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Many Fascinate users were upgraded to the Charge for free during a short period of time. I, myself, was one of those users and I am eligible for an upgrade if I were to see something I really liked.
As was pointed out, many other people buy phones off contract. There is a huge used market. Many folks will buy a like-new used phone and turn around and sell it when something bigger/better comes out to recoup some value from it. There are lots of folks that upgrade their phone several times a year for a number of reasons.
I don't upgrade that often, but I've seen others that do.
Well , other phones have this so i think we should too! I like reading other peoples thoughts on when ics is gonna be released even if its a random guess. i think by the end of this month is my estimate.
We will get it when everyone else in the world has it....
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I quickly learned the skyrocket is red headed step child... when I bought this device..... I wouldn't be surprised if we never get it
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WhatzinyourphonE said:
I quickly learned the skyrocket is red headed step child... when I bought this device..... I wouldn't be surprised if we never get it
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I find your lack of faith disturbing.
Well the t989 got it today, so I think we might actually get sometime this week, if not next week hope fully, at least this shows Rogers isn't waiting for the release of the s3 to update its existing galaxy line
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I think so too if t mobile can do it then why is att so far behind especially since there's been 2 leaks and from what ive read the second is all the way functional except a few bugs so what's taking so long
Yeah, hopefully this week or next. I see no reason why not. T-Mo SII just got it through Kies, so there is def SII love. US SIII just isn't groundbreaking.
Will this be an OTA we have to manually retreive or a Kies update? Im half wondering if Kies will give it to us right now.
I hope it gets here soon, I'm so utterly disgusted with the lack of features and performance in mine that I'm already ready to go back to an iPhone. The only reason I bought it was because my iPhone 4 was stolen and the AT&T sales rep said ICS was coming out "next week", this was nearly two months ago.
digitalmaniak3k said:
I hope it gets here soon, I'm so utterly disgusted with the lack of features and performance in mine that I'm already ready to go back to an iPhone. The only reason I bought it was because my iPhone 4 was stolen and the AT&T sales rep said ICS was coming out "next week", this was nearly two months ago.
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lack of features? which features might those be?
As far as performance goes, the skyrocket is no slouch.
bp787 said:
lack of features? which features might those be?
As far as performance goes, the skyrocket is no slouch.
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Last I checked only the galaxy S3 and like 1 other phone were better, am I wrong?
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digitalmaniak3k said:
I hope it gets here soon, I'm so utterly disgusted with the lack of features and performance in mine that I'm already ready to go back to an iPhone. The only reason I bought it was because my iPhone 4 was stolen and the AT&T sales rep said ICS was coming out "next week", this was nearly two months ago.
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Ooh boy..
More of this
Fragmentation.
Lack of features aka I can't find them cuz they aren't on the home screen or plastered to my face
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hey, I'm not here to start anything, I wasted $200 on this thing because it's just not right for my usage. I have to restart it several times a day because it locks up, the stock browser is a joke, I'm forced to use Dolphin which I hate to access my company portal (hey, I didn't use Safari on my iPhone, but Safari did work for that) It won't ring, I never get notifications of text messages or voicemail, I drive over 200 miles a day so having music to listen to is important, and I had to dust off my old iPod for that, I had the TomTom app on my iPhone and since I travel out of my service area regularly I cant trust the navigation that came with the Samsung because it constantly loses GPS signal, so I had to buy a TomTom. I honestly thought my phone was broken so I took it back but the guy in the store said there was nothing wrong with my phone. I used to use Foursquare but the GPS is so off that every time I check in anywhere it says I'm too far away. Oh, and my battery only gives me about three hours off the charger.
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Lack of features aka I can't find them cuz they aren't on the home screen or plastered to my face
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Haha! Epic!
But honestly this is taking way too long to get the "official" ICS out... not complaining just an observation.
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hey, I'm not here to start anything, I wasted $200 on this thing because it's just not right for my usage. I have to restart it several times a day because it locks up, the stock browser is a joke, I'm forced to use Dolphin which I hate to access my company portal (hey, I didn't use Safari on my iPhone, but Safari did work for that) It won't ring, I never get notifications of text messages or voicemail, I drive over 200 miles a day so having music to listen to is important, and I had to dust off my old iPod for that, I had the TomTom app on my iPhone and since I travel out of my service area regularly I cant trust the navigation that came with the Samsung because it constantly loses GPS signal, so I had to buy a TomTom. I honestly thought my phone was broken so I took it back but the guy in the store said there was nothing wrong with my phone. I used to use Foursquare but the GPS is so off that every time I check in anywhere it says I'm too far away. Oh, and my battery only gives me about three hours off the charger.
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Then you just have a faulty phone bro...
Cool story
crixley said:
Then you just have a faulty phone bro...
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AT&T and Samsung disagree.
digitalmaniak3k said:
AT&T and Samsung disagree.
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Well maybe you're just "special"
Go back to an iPhone, they're good for people who can't figure things out
crixley said:
Well maybe you're just "special"
Go back to an iPhone, they're good for people who can't figure things out
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Wow you're a ****. And I mean that with the most disgusted inflection that word allows for, jackass.
To the other guy; your phone is faulty. It just is. You're the consumer, you payed for a product that isn't delivering. You're going to need to whine and ***** about it, make it a big of enough deal; don't take no for an answer.
They're retail stores, switching out used devices isn't really their forte. (If you had a faulty iPhone you'd still need to make a big deal about it before getting it switched).
You have a great phone, trust me and everyone else here who knows phones. Yours is faulty; the Skyrocket is an incredibly powerful device.
I keep noticing things here keep getting slower and slower. I'm about to get my income tax return and I plan to get a newer phone. I am planning to keep my Charge to learn a little about more esoteric smart phone usage. I hope something will be going on here in the future. Also I'm wondering if our fearless leader Dwitherell plans to develop on a different phone. If so, which one?
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I think so... Btw... Does Barstow ring a bell?
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I've been using my N7 the most. My phone is just a phone now. Lol
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I think so... Btw... Does Barstow ring a bell?
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No, I'm afraid Barstow means nothing to me.
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No, I'm afraid Barstow means nothing to me.
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Lol... Aite
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Lol... Aite
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Ok now you got me going. What about Barstow?
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Yu said metal building in a yard... I had a friend stuey in Barstow cali that went through engineer school with me in Kansas...He was/is a yard master for a railroad...I was thinking it couldn't possibly be... But I had to ask to make sure...Some of the wildest and best times of my life...cali bunch made a huge impression on a Texas kid
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Yu said metal building in a yard... I had a friend stuey in Barstow cali that went through engineer school with me in Kansas...He was/is a yard master for a railroad...I was thinking it couldn't possibly be... But I had to ask to make sure...Some of the wildest and best times of my life...cali bunch made a huge impression on a Texas kid
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Cool. Actually I was born in Lubbock Tx. Grew up in Amarillo and San Antonio. Then moved to New England where I took up Saw Filing (band saw maintenance for a saw mill). Now I'm in Indiana, still doing saws. Never been to California.
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Ya I hope not
I think the reason the community is dying is there isn't much action anymore, things are pretty much as perfect as the charge is going to get running gingerbread. Once you upgrade you're going to wonder why you hadn't earlier. trust me.
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I think the reason the community is dying is there isn't much action anymore, things are pretty much as perfect as the charge is going to get running gingerbread. Once you upgrade you're going to wonder why you hadn't earlier. trust me.
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I'm looking for things to keep tweaking on the Charge. I've been trying to mess with screen brightness levels as Dwith knows, I just can't figure out how to get them to register. And I've been keeping my eye out on some neat things. I just have to find the time to try them.
I'm still around, and there are one or two things that I have on the to-do list, but they are pretty minor cleanup sort of things which is why I haven't done much currently.
And in the spirit of full disclosure, I no longer have vzw service - went to T-Mobile as it's decent in my area and I needed to cut down on monthly spending. After my gnex got stolen I managed to sell a bunch of closet-clutter tech stuff and got a note 2.
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I'm still around, and there are one or two things that I have on the to-do list, but they are pretty minor cleanup sort of things which is why I haven't done much currently.
And in the spirit of full disclosure, I no longer have vzw service - went to T-Mobile as it's decent in my area and I needed to cut down on monthly spending. After my gnex got stolen I managed to sell a bunch of closet-clutter tech stuff and got a note 2.
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Sorry to hear about your GNex. I hope you're happy with TMobile. People I know here in the Indy area don't have much luck with it. I'm staying with Verizon and it looks like I'll get a Galaxy S3. I'd love to have a Note 2 but I can't afford it. I'll be seeing you in here hopefully. I've been lurking in the GS3 forum and there are so many choices of roms it's kinda bewildering. I'll find something cool though.
I think I have a couple weeks to wait for my Income tax return so I'll be hanging around here for a while. Yall ain't rid of me just yet.
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There haven't been many people crying for help so I have slowed down my logins/posts...I'm still lurking though, and XDA is still on my front page. Maybe one day I'll get a better phone.
One day...
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... After my gnex got stolen I managed to sell a bunch of closet-clutter tech stuff and got a note 2.
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Seriously considering Note 2 or S3. You've certainly earned our respect with your hard work. What are your thoughts on the Note 2 (sorry if I've missed them elsewhere)?
Still Charged Up
Holding out for an S4
Still running the under appreciated Droid Charge with the appreciated Tweaked 3.2
Man I keep looking at the Note 2 and it's driving me crazy. I may just splurge and go ahead and get it. I saw one on Craigslist for $500 but most of them are $600 or more. I'm not going to give up my unlimited data. If I had a display that size I'd be watching Netflix on it all the time.
Have an ASUS TF300T at work and bought a Nexus 10 for the wife. Both do one helluva job running Netflix... N10 is a great tab but does it ever burn through a charge...
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well, I just ordered the Motorola Razr M off e-bay - should be getting it by Friday. But I'm still holding on to the Charge (will be giving it to my 7-year old son to replace is 2G iPod Touch).
so I may check back in once in awhile - but I wish you all well.
my reasoning for getting the phone from e-bay as opposed to VZW is b/c although the phone would have been cheaper ($50 compared to $250), VZW slaps on that $30 upgrade fee and forces me to move to the family share plan (which would increase my bill by $30/month). so even after 6 months, I would have paid that $250 amount anyway plus still paying $30/month extra going forward.
I chose the M b/c it appears to best satisfy my needs for a phone with great battery life and still fits in the palm of my hand (and snugly in my pocket). the phone, although has limited developers, already has a few ROMs (including Nitro's Eclipse) and root method (called safestrap).
Dwith, hope you are interested in developing on the razr family (keep in mind that you'd be reaching out to all other Razr's like the Maxx, HD, etc). I can get you a razr pretty cheap.
Personally I very much enjoy the note 2 - though the size of it does make it a hard sell for most (my wife razzes me a bit) I have not felt inconvenienced by it at all. The fact that all I am is a smali-hack wannabe plays well too, as there are a number of touchwiz-only features that keep some (moreso than other phones at least) preferring the modded stock vs. the aosp approach. Plus - touchwiz has come a LONG way since the charge aesthetically, which is definitely a good thing lol
It would be interesting to try and mess with something that isn't samsung, as that's all I've ever had really...
I've finally gotten tired of dealing with all that I've had to deal with for having an android phone on VZW. I'm tired of having to hack a phone just to get it to work correctly and even then it wasn't a garauntee. Android you were fun while you lasted...been with you since Eclair was new
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Androids not the problem its Verizon. I think you just jumped out of the frying pan, if you went Apple. ?
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I've finally gotten tired of dealing with all that I've had to deal with for having an android phone on VZW. I'm tired of having to hack a phone just to get it to work correctly and even then it wasn't a garauntee. Android you were fun while you lasted...been with you since Eclair was new
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I thought Android was the darkside . My wife and I went to Best Buy on Friday for new phones. I have always purchased Andriod and she always get's an iPhone. My wife got a 6S which was just made available and I seriously considered getting one also. One thing about iPhones is that though they are locked down they just work and they work great. I have owned 3 Android tablets and 5 phones. It seems like I spend more time tweaking them with rooting and ROMs than using them. My wife never does anything with her phone but install apps and she never have issues. So after about 15 minutes with a patient young sales girl I ended up with the S6 anyway. I was lucky enough to get an OE2 firmware and I already rooted. But I'm seriously considering taking the latest update and get out of the rooting and ROMs hassle. I have about 10 days left to decide if I going to keep or return the S6. My main concern is the battery. I'm retired and I have a landline so I probably don't use my phone as much as most people here but I travel often and don't want to worry about running out of juice. So if the S6 doesn't pan out I'm leaving the darkside for an iPhone.
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Androids not the problem its Verizon. I think you just jumped out of the frying pan, if you went Apple. ?
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It may not be inherently an issue with Android, but the issues Android has on verizon are not present on Apple devices.
When Apple agreed to place the iPhone on VZW, Verizon had to give them sole control of their software. The only thing VZW does is the baseband and radio for their networks. Everything else is in Apple's sole control. There is no verizon bloatware, VZW can NOT add or remove any software or features, ie...Samsung pay....
I believe that many of the issues that Android devices suffer from stem directly from verizon putting their noses where they don't belong.
It's taken years for me to get to this point. I've owned numerous Android phones from all of the manufacturers, and it's truly been an enjoyable ride. But the increasingly difficult security coupled with vzw's encroachment into the software side of the house has driven me to get fed up with it all. I just want a phone that works....that doesn't suffer from horrible memory leaks, that has decent battery life, that isn't plagued with cell standby issues, and evidently going to the iPhone is the only reliable way to do that.
I like the S6. But it does have it's issues. The main one for me is battery life. This could be because they decided to shrink the battery down or from software flaws...ie cell standby, memory management, or bluetooth being enabled never allows the phone to go into deep sleep (this is a new one I started experiencing a few weeks ago). Plain and simple....I have owned the S6 since launch day and the battery life is terrible. I have yet to get through a half a day without needing to charge and that is just unacceptable to me. My fiance has had her iphone 6s since the 24th and has only charged it twice. With 3-4 hr on screen time a day and pandora running for about an hour a day.
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nateohio said:
It may not be inherently an issue with Android, but the issues Android has on verizon are not present on Apple devices.
When Apple agreed to place the iPhone on VZW, Verizon had to give them sole control of their software. The only thing VZW does is the baseband and radio for their networks. Everything else is in Apple's sole control. There is no verizon bloatware, VZW can NOT add or remove any software or features, ie...Samsung pay....
I believe that many of the issues that Android devices suffer from stem directly from verizon putting their noses where they don't belong.
It's taken years for me to get to this point. I've owned numerous Android phones from all of the manufacturers, and it's truly been an enjoyable ride. But the increasingly difficult security coupled with vzw's encroachment into the software side of the house has driven me to get fed up with it all. I just want a phone that works....that doesn't suffer from horrible memory leaks, that has decent battery life, that isn't plagued with cell standby issues, and evidently going to the iPhone is the only reliable way to do that.
I like the S6. But it does have it's issues. The main one for me is battery life. This could be because they decided to shrink the battery down or from software flaws...ie cell standby, memory management, or bluetooth being enabled never allows the phone to go into deep sleep (this is a new one I started experiencing a few weeks ago). Plain and simple....I have owned the S6 since launch day and the battery life is terrible. I have yet to get through a half a day without needing to charge and that is just unacceptable to me. My fiance has had her iphone 6s since the 24th and has only charged it twice. With 3-4 hr on screen time a day and pandora running for about an hour a day.
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This is very true. I love Android, but I am sick of having to jump through holes just to get it to be clean. I hate how Verizon butchers everything and Samsung doesn't have the balls to stand up to them. Apple is able to do that. I have no hatred against Android nor iOS. I go by features that fit my requirements and the S6 has the best - Primary being the camera. However, I've noticed my photos have been blurry and the S6 can't decide what to do in low-light and doesn't use flash, which forces me to have people re-pose what should have been candid. I do believe the iPhone 6s will have the better camera (or at least he software to use the camera) and I would like to jump to it. It's just, the lack of IR, private mode (obviously just software), and battery life/fast charging, are big killers for me. Given the smaller battery and worse battery life, charging the damn thing is so slow. At least implement a fast charging feature and I can overlook my laziness of looking for my TV remote and privacy mode.
Bye. Please enjoy being told what you can and cannot install on your own phone!
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Bye. Please enjoy being told what you can and cannot install on your own phone!
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You do realize that Android / VZW do the exact same thing right? There is nothing that Android offers that Apple doesn't that's actually useful to me...I like widgets and such but I don't need them. And you know what? At least apple doesn't feel it necessary to force a hard warning about volume levels damaging my hearing...
Use to new able to remove that annoying little stuff via rooting/terminal emulator/ or romming.....well that's all but impossible now
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I can relate to what the OP is saying. I have had an android phone on Verizon since the OG Moto Droid. I enjoyed tweaking Android phones. I have the S6 64gb right now. I love certain features of the phone but it is flawed. I was hoping that the new Nexus phones would be great and they probably will. However I don't want to have to buy a phablet to get good specs and better battery life.
I just purchased the iPhone 6s for my wife. Were on vzw and I may switch myself. It is a struggle cause I don't know anything but Android.
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You do realize that Android / VZW do the exact same thing right? There is nothing that Android offers that Apple doesn't that's actually useful to me...I like widgets and such but I don't need them. And you know what? At least apple doesn't feel it necessary to force a hard warning about volume levels damaging my hearing...
Use to new able to remove that annoying little stuff via rooting/terminal emulator/ or romming.....well that's all but impossible now
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And I'd rather not be able to install apps that I may use occasionally versus having VZW for their crap products onto my phone and screwing it up in the process
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And please do tell me what's available on android that's not available on Apple devices? Other than gimmicks like widgets....which apple has kind of figured out a way to do those as well
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And please do tell me what's available on android that's not available on Apple devices? Other than gimmicks like widgets....which apple has kind of figured out a way to do those as well
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Haha enjoy your walled garden dude. I hope Apple approves of all the apps you want to install because you're not installing them otherwise. Maybe you don't have a problem with it but I hate being told what I can and cannot install. If I have to sit here and point out all the things you can't do on iOS that you can do on Android then you're better off with iJunk anyway. Have fun! Say hi to the "geniuses" for me. Once again, bye.
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Haha enjoy your walled garden dude. I hope Apple approves of all the apps you want to install because you're not installing them otherwise. Maybe you don't have a problem with it but I hate being told what I can and cannot install. If I have to sit here and point out all the things you can't do on iOS that you can do on Android then you're better off with iJunk anyway. Have fun! Say hi to the "geniuses" for me. Once again, bye.
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Still can't come up with anything? Face it dude....as time goes by they are getting to be more similar....
I love fan boys it's always hilarious
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Still can't come up with anything? Face it dude....as time goes by they are getting to be more similar....
I love fan boys it's always hilarious
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Oh you mean like the people who post about Apple in the GS6 forum just for attention? Just switch and leave. Change your iphone launcher or sideload an app. Maybe use NFC to initiate a macro. Activate your notification light with different colors for different apps... the list is endless. I'm not sure what you are looking for.
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Oh you mean like the people who post about Apple in the GS6 forum just for attention? Just switch and leave. Change your iphone launcher or sideload an app. Maybe use NFC to initiate a macro. Activate your notification light with different colors for different apps... the list is endless. I'm not sure what you are looking for.
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I'm far past the point in my life where I need to be validated by anonymous people on the Internet...chances are...judging by your behavior....I was using Android while you were still in elementary school. If you'd bother to have read my posts, you'd know that I've been using /hacking /flashing android devices since long before they became mainstream. Get over yourself
My post was meant for those users (who btw outnumber you in this thread) that may be in similar situations or experiences.
Changing my launcher? I don't even do that on android devices....too many bugs most of the time. Use NFC to initiate a Macro? I've done that, and it can make things a little more convenient. But I would rather use it to pay at the store. Something you can't do with the S6 because verizon has the android companies by the balls and just says "we aren't going to allow you have that feature" ...changing led colors? Really? Why even mention that?
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I can relate to what the OP is saying. I have had an android phone on Verizon since the OG Moto Droid. I enjoyed tweaking Android phones. I have the S6 64gb right now. I love certain features of the phone but it is flawed. I was hoping that the new Nexus phones would be great and they probably will. However I don't want to have to buy a phablet to get good specs and better battery life.
I just purchased the iPhone 6s for my wife. Were on vzw and I may switch myself. It is a struggle cause I don't know anything but Android.
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That's what I'm saying. I've been doing it for so long it's just become second nature. I miss the OG Droid....that was a tinkerers dream. After years of doing it though, I'd rather spend the time doing things that are more fun. In other words, I don't care about customization options or 3rd party apps anymore. I just want a phone that actually works and works well out of the box, not needing any intervention on my part other than picking it up and turning it on.
This most recent issue with my bluetooth not allowing my phone to sleep was the straw that broke the camels back for me. Could I fix the problem? Probably....do I want to devote the time to it? Nope....not anymore.
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Oh you mean like the people who post about Apple in the GS6 forum just for attention? Just switch and leave. Change your iphone launcher or sideload an app. Maybe use NFC to initiate a macro. Activate your notification light with different colors for different apps... the list is endless. I'm not sure what you are looking for.
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Don't see why you're bashing on what other people want to do with a freaking cell phone choice. You insinuating other people trolling here when you're the troll yourself. Get off your high horse and enjoy the phone that YOU have and let other people do what they want. You're not going to convince anyone talking crap on them. Get over yourself
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Don't see why you're bashing on what other people want to do with a freaking cell phone choice. You insinuating other people trolling here when you're the troll yourself. Get off your high horse and enjoy the phone that YOU have and let other people do what they want. You're not going to convince anyone talking crap on them. Get over yourself
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Until recently you would have been hard pressed to find a bigger advocate for Android than me. There were always two features that kept me with Samsung...a removable battery and expandable storage. But when you remove those two features and basically make an iPhone clone you are going to lose on the software front. Especially when your hobbled by VZW and all the crap that they do to mess up a pretty good product.
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Don't see why you're bashing on what other people want to do with a freaking cell phone choice. You insinuating other people trolling here when you're the troll yourself. Get off your high horse and enjoy the phone that YOU have and let other people do what they want. You're not going to convince anyone talking crap on them. Get over yourself
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Hey pot meet the kettle. I find it ironic how YOU (lol at that btw) brought absolutely nothing to the conversation except an attack on me. At least I brought facts into it along with my opinion. You're just a troll yourself.
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Until recently you would have been hard pressed to find a bigger advocate for Android than me. There were always two features that kept me with Samsung...a removable battery and expandable storage. But when you remove those two features and basically make an iPhone clone you are going to lose on the software front. Especially when your hobbled by VZW and all the crap that they do to mess up a pretty good product.
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Yeah VZW could mess up a wet dream, that I cannot argue lol. Samsung I give credit to because at least they try change, for better or for worse, at least they try.
Eddie Hicks said:
I thought Android was the darkside . My wife and I went to Best Buy on Friday for new phones. I have always purchased Andriod and she always get's an iPhone. My wife got a 6S which was just made available and I seriously considered getting one also. One thing about iPhones is that though they are locked down they just work and they work great. I have owned 3 Android tablets and 5 phones. It seems like I spend more time tweaking them with rooting and ROMs than using them. My wife never does anything with her phone but install apps and she never have issues. So after about 15 minutes with a patient young sales girl I ended up with the S6 anyway. I was lucky enough to get an OE2 firmware and I already rooted. But I'm seriously considering taking the latest update and get out of the rooting and ROMs hassle. I have about 10 days left to decide if I going to keep or return the S6. My main concern is the battery. I'm retired and I have a landline so I probably don't use my phone as much as most people here but I travel often and don't want to worry about running out of juice. So if the S6 doesn't pan out I'm leaving the darkside for an iPhone.
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I have an S6 and the battery is a LOT better than I thought it would be. I use my phone CONSTANTLY for work everyday outside with the brightness all the way up and I usually make it home most days with a little juice left. I have a Mophie case on it everyday but rarely have to use it.
There both good operating systems it doesn't have to be one or the other yea a nexus is fun to flash the **** out of it but obviously Apple doing something right too it's more about Verizons locked bootloaders.