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So who is going to buy the new phones when at&t releases them, or be like me and wait about 6 months to see what else pops up?
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If you play the waiting game, you'll be waiting forever.
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MikeyMike01 said:
If you play the waiting game, you'll be waiting forever.
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Thats why i am waiting about 6 months, enough to see if anything better then the atrix will come out.
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Why are we working on 2.2
Why not 2.2.1 or 2.3

Let's not beat a dead horse.
Sorry to be blunt, but there is numerous threads about this.

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Why not 2.2.1 or 2.3
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I am talking about when you know you are going to drop the captivate... but if your going to wait and see what other stuff comes out or not.
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i will WAIT!!bring on the samsung galaxy hologram phone lol..but i wonder about att.pricing for data on their so called 4GNETWORK. you you all ever hear of internet2 you are going to love that,it will keep you safe

FIREONHIGH said:
i will WAIT!!bring on the samsung galaxy hologram phone lol..but i wonder about att.pricing for data on their so called 4GNETWORK. you you all ever hear of internet2 you are going to love that,it will keep you safe
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you do know of this,yes?,,i will eat my laptop in 11 months from now if this **** doesnt happen,and you mikey also think google will not start censoring the net before that? i hope you right,,,,,,,i dont want it ,,,heyyyyyyyy lets get mikey,live in your dreamworld here,i hope you are prepared.you good sir sound like a SHILL,good day

LMAO @ that insult video

jgr208 said:
Thats why i am waiting about 6 months, enough to see if anything better then the atrix will come out.
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Thats so long though; I got the captivate last july(?) And i can upgrade right noW. The Atrix and dock are very tempting but theyre going ti announce some good stuff at MWC. I just hope to god they take a note from Apple and have the phones ready to ship within a month or so.
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FLAC Vest said:
Thats so long though; I got the captivate last july(?) And i can upgrade right noW. The Atrix and dock are very tempting but theyre going ti announce some good stuff at MWC. I just hope to god they take a note from Apple and have the phones ready to ship within a month or so.
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For three reasons mostly, to see the good of the phones, the bad, if they will get updated, and what new phones are planned.
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jgr208 said:
Thats why i am waiting about 6 months, enough to see if anything better then the atrix will come out.
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exactly and when that next great thing is released in 6 months....don't you think you will want to wait another six months to see what other next greatest thing is about to be released?

bames said:
exactly and when that next great thing is released in 6 months....don't you think you will want to wait another six months to see what other next greatest thing is about to be released?
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No matter what you get, or when you get it, it's obsolete in a matter of weeks.
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Yea, I would say think "video card". Those suckers are pumped out so fast, that is the only item in my pc that I am hesitant to buy.

MikeyMike01 said:
No matter what you get, or when you get it, it's obsolete in a matter of weeks.
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Yea, I would say think "video card". Those suckers are pumped out so fast, that is the only item in my pc that I am hesitant to buy.
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these two posts = thumbs up.
the question is. when to stop waiting? its either now or never imo
oh, and thumbs down to the thread title. its very unimformative, it could be about the world ending or about a new cat you just got... i cant tell by the title.

I agree. Please title your threads appropriately OP. "So...." is a title that should get you banned for a week.

If you know that AT&T is going to release better products down the road (and you do, if you're thinking about waiting 6 or so months) then you have to decide whether or not its worth it to get an HSPA+ phone or wait for the inevitable LTE devices to rear their heads. Personally, I'm thinking of getting an Inspire 4G retail when they're launched as a birthday present to me from me, and then possibly using my upgrade later on when an LTE device shows up. It's all a matter of whether it's worth the wait to you.

i used my update on my craptivate with my 2.1dumpdate1. if it wasnt for you devs then i would be pissing on samsungs doorstep right now. i think ill either get the atrix or a nexus s since dev phones are about the only thing guarunteed to get the latest stuff. paying full price anyway. id like to see motorola drop a high powered device like the atrix but wrap it up all tanky like the defy.

llaufhutte said:
If you know that AT&T is going to release better products down the road (and you do, if you're thinking about waiting 6 or so months) then you have to decide whether or not its worth it to get an HSPA+ phone or wait for the inevitable LTE devices to rear their heads. Personally, I'm thinking of getting an Inspire 4G retail when they're launched as a birthday present to me from me, and then possibly using my upgrade later on when an LTE device shows up. It's all a matter of whether it's worth the wait to you.
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Exactly. See, I already have the Captivate now which, although won't be the best thing on the market soon, is still a damn good phone and @ 1.28ghz it keeps up just nicely with the best if them.
I have an upgrade and the question now is; what do I get? Since the Atrix was a flop (pricing and required tethering) im definitely waiting for MWC to see whats coming; the new Samsung phone should be great.
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[Q] For as many people leaving this device

Ill be the only one left. Hell the development came to a halt. And this gingerbread rumor crap is out of hand...
Might be best to leave now before its too late...this place is depressing...

smashpunks said:
Ill be the only one left. Hell the development came to a halt. And this gingerbread rumor crap is out of hand...
Might be best to leave now before its too late...this place is depressing...
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bro i was seriously thinking what the hell is up with all the "goodbye g2x here i come sensation" **** why make a thread about it! just do it we dont care i mean i feel for the people that have problems with there g2x but if your going to get a sensation good luck and we will see u later!...and man as far as gingerbread goes yea it sux we gotta wait this long but these rumors are out of hand nobody knows anything so what we gota do is just wait it out

I concur. In my opinion there is less development for the G2x then there was for the Vibrant. Who knows, maybe because a new phone is rolling out every few months.
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**** im on eb1.05 froyo+faux oc/uv kernel @1.1, zero bloatware, xperia theme, ZERO reboots, ZERO freezes, what the hell I need gb for!
G2X

Honestly, I'm pretty happy with my G2x and CM7. Also played with the Sensation today, and it didn't really impress me. Sure, Sense 3.0 is nice and all, but I don't see what the hype is about.
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Bronk93 said:
I concur. In my opinion there is less development for the G2x then there was for the Vibrant. Who knows, maybe because a new phone is rolling out every few months.
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Exactly vibrant was way ahead of this...half the roms we got now haven't been updated in a grip.
I'm not having issues like others but still I bet the sensation after 2 months even with locked boot loaders have more development than this...
End of this month is all I'm giving this, then looks like I'm doing the same as everyone else...get the lead buggy device already running what were waiting for...

C0dy said:
Honestly, I'm pretty happy with my G2x and CM7. Also played with the Sensation today, and it didn't really impress me. Sure, Sense 3.0 is nice and all, but I don't see what the hype is about.
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I don't either,i hated it, but it obviously don't have reboots, bleed, etc. just minor issues....
Half the g2x owners left..

fcisco13 said:
**** im on eb1.05 froyo+faux oc/uv kernel @1.1, zero bloatware, xperia theme, ZERO reboots, ZERO freezes, what the hell I need gb for!
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dude ebfroyo 1.0.5 looks like gingerbread and its sick quick and u have stock camera great rom rite there that will hold me off till gingerbread comes out if it ever does lol

@smashpunks yo bro u should give ebfroyo 1.0.5 i think u will like it

sarni84 said:
@smashpunks yo bro u should give ebfroyo 1.0.5 i think u will like it
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Ill have to check it out.. Development section?

smashpunks said:
I don't either,i hated it, but it obviously don't have reboots, bleed, etc. just minor issues....
Half the g2x owners left..
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Actually I saw posts on the T-Mobile forums where some people are having lock ups now where they have to remove the battery to get the phone to become responsive again. I haven't heard anything about screen bleed but there are a lot of people complaining about having washed out screens. There's a whole slew of other problems starting to be reported with the Sensation as well. It almost sounds exactly like the same pattern that happened with the G2x right after launch. I'm starting to wonder if something with the T-Mobile bloatware is what's causing these phones to have problems.

smashpunks said:
I don't either,i hated it, but it obviously don't have reboots, bleed, etc. just minor issues....
Half the g2x owners left..
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How you know half have left? By reading the threads here and then applying the 1/2 left theory, that means TMO sold like 20 devices.
Its dead here because everyone is waiting on the update. Everything else is like dead horse...how do i fix a reboot...wait on you know what. My battery overheats...wait for you know what. My screen bleeds....well so do people hit by cars, but you know what will fix that.
who would put the dev time right now into a new rom when a update is expected "by summer".
My son just called me and told me he's going to buy a sensation. I asked him,, does it have you know what on it? He said..."huh". So much for the really important things in this world.

LordIzod said:
Actually I saw posts on the T-Mobile forums where some people are having lock ups now where they have to remove the battery to get the phone to become responsive again. There's a whole slew of other problems starting to be reported with the Sensation as well. It almost sounds exactly like the same pattern that happened with the G2x right after launch. I'm starting to wonder if something with the T-Mobile bloatware is what's causing these phones to have problems.
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One of the cool things about my job, is I get to break things. Up until wp7, tearing apart a ROm and finding out what causes problems was an easy thing to do. With the T-Mobile HD2, simply removing the bloatware made that device a better device. It was fun to sit and demonstrate a problem, flash a clean build, and watch the faces of the people around the table as the problem no longer appeared. I dated a TMO dev for a while...it didn't last.
Bloatware iis the #1 cause of problems, followed by drivers. I'd say problamatic apps would be 3rd. The primary reason for rooting is to remove bloatware...IMO.

smashpunks said:
Exactly vibrant was way ahead of this...half the roms we got now haven't been updated in a grip.
I'm not having issues like others but still I bet the sensation after 2 months even with locked boot loaders have more development than this...
End of this month is all I'm giving this, then looks like I'm doing the same as everyone else...get the lead buggy device already running what were waiting for...
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At three months in the Vibrant wasn't "way ahead of this"...even with the relatively easy porting from other Galaxy S devices. We have good development for a three month old phone. With more devs showing interest daily...hell development is the reason I chose this phone. the slight pause you are detecting is probably the devs waiting for stable drivers from the Gingerbread drop.
But if you want to go...go..

LordIzod said:
Actually I saw posts on the T-Mobile forums where some people are having lock ups now where they have to remove the battery to get the phone to become responsive again. I haven't heard anything about screen bleed but there are a lot of people complaining about having washed out screens. There's a whole slew of other problems starting to be reported with the Sensation as well. It almost sounds exactly like the same pattern that happened with the G2x right after launch. I'm starting to wonder if something with the T-Mobile bloatware is what's causing these phones to have problems.
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I think its t-mobile's fault. until they adopt a new quality over quantity attitude and stop letting manufacturers have a turf battle with each other for the apple's direct competion crown we might get better phones. better as in tried and tested not the numbers war similar to digital camera manufacturers five years ago before ppl knew better. Better phones with even better support as far as updates are concerned.
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Daffydukc said:
I think its t-mobile's fault. until they adopt a new quality over quantity attitude and stop letting manufacturers have a turf battle with each other for the apple's direct competion crown we might get better phones. better as in tried and tested not the numbers war similar to digital camera manufacturers five years ago before ppl knew better. Better phones with even better support as far as updates are concerned.
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Ka-Ching. Its all about the quality control. T-Mobile has usually done pretty good, but has been fading a little bit recently.

I'm happy with my phone. I don't realize half of the problems till I read xda leaving post. Go ahead and read Acer iconia thread you will see the same type of post there also. So I will still be here no doubt.
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hazard99 said:
I'm happy with my phone. I don't realize half of the problems till I read xda leaving post. Go ahead and read Acer iconia thread you will see the same type of post there also. So I will still be here no doubt.
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Go ahead and read (insert new phone) thread you will see the same type of post there also. I'm staying too.

LordIzod said:
Actually I saw posts on the T-Mobile forums where some people are having lock ups now where they have to remove the battery to get the phone to become responsive again. I haven't heard anything about screen bleed but there are a lot of people complaining about having washed out screens. There's a whole slew of other problems starting to be reported with the Sensation as well. It almost sounds exactly like the same pattern that happened with the G2x right after launch. I'm starting to wonder if something with the T-Mobile bloatware is what's causing these phones to have problems.
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I think you hit the nail on the head. We all know their WiFi Calling and My Account apps eat up data and kill the battery like no other.
I removed those the minute I got root and didn't have any further issues. I made a thread with all the crap Tmo put in there... even that scary LogMeIn remote desktop crap that they (use for support). Why would I want ANY one displaying up my phone on their screen other then me?
I also think that once they re-release the G2x with Gingerbread, the forums will pick back up. Remember you can't buy this phone right now. Most of the initial supporters are jumpers (they buy EVERY new phone that comes out) plus some that had issues and swapped.
You know thats why Tmo isn't selling the Froyo G2x anymore (waiting for GB). I think its a strong move because most companies just want the $$ and would sell a junk item to anyone. Ceasing the orders will speed up the GB update process (so they can continue making $$).

Oh and let me say HHHHHAAAAEL No im not getting a sensation. I think its a piece of crap. Stop the hate G2x threads.
Sorry about my mishap earlier on this thread, I cant leave this beast of a device.
Especially if Galaxy On Fire 2 comes out this month and they dont post pone it for a 3rd time

Who is Thinking of Jumping Ship to the SGS2?

Now that it is official I am not sure if it is the device that is getting me excited or all the hype around it. I really like the idea of the larger screen and super thin body. Wish it was qhd though. I guess with every good thing comes a bad thing......
Thinking the only way to get it without spending money is to add a line, cancel my 3D's line and sell the 3D on Craigs list. That should cover the both costs.......Anyone know what Sprint's max cancelation charge is?
Like I said, just thinking about it now and would like to hear what others are planning on doing. Hopefully this doesn't turn into a flame war......Just looking to see if people jumping ship have a better way to get there then what I was thinking of doing......

RushAOZ said:
The gs2 is blasphemy in these forums. The mods and posters with insecurity and denial will attack you. Dump the 3d. Get the gs2.
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Lol, reported because you are annoying.
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Thought about it, no. Got screwed enough with no lube by Samsung, thanks.

[email protected] said:
Not that it is official I am not sure if it is the device that is getting me excited or all the hype around it. I really like the idea of the larger screen and super thin body. Wish it was qhd though. I guess with every good thing comes a bad thing......
Thinking the only way to get it without spending money is to add a line, cancel my 3D's line and sell the 3D on Craigs list. That should cover the both costs.......Anyone know what Sprint's max cancelation charge is?
Like I said, just thinking about it now and would like to hear what others are planning on doing. Hopefully this doesn't turn into a flame war......Just looking to see if people jumping ship have a better way to get there then what I was thinking of doing......
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The SGS II will only be a good phone because of the Dev support. Samsung has a hard time updating the software for some reason. Gingerbread hasn't even been rolled out to the original Epic for god's sake.

RushAOZ said:
The gs2 is blasphemy in these forums. The mods and posters with insecurity and denial will attack you. Dump the 3d. Get the gs2.
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Hopefully if we don't get trolls and people give there honest opinions this thread can stay open because I really want to see what people have to say and what they will be doing now that the device is official.
I have been with HTC for the past 5 years but if something better comes along I am not afraid to go....
Obviously no one has played with it yet but I want to know people's thoughts just based on the announcement and if they are regretting the 3D purchase....

Im all in, day one.

The thread can stay open if the trolling idiots stay quiet

aypanthony said:
The SGS II will only be a good phone because of the Dev support. Samsung has a hard time updating the software for some reason. Gingerbread hasn't even been rolled out to the original Epic for god's sake.
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The epics an exception. They can't seem to get the keyboard and radio figured out. This is the reason all sgs2s will be the sane and not have a keyboard lol. You also have to remember that update fiasco had more to do with carriers than Samsung themselves. The sgs had their updates right on time. I'm also curious about the op question. I've always wondered what would happen to your handset if cancelled within the first 6 months.
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MOD EDIT: Goodbye

Well i guess it depends on you, I like a thinner device and i know it will have a better camera but I hatethe cheap feel of Samsung devices and.the updates , gingerbread is over nine months old and nothing official for the epic, so what would make me think they will get it on time on the second.device, same thing goes with the photon MOTO devices rake forever to update, that's why I stick with the EVO 3d but all 3 phones are great phones
MGS on my iPad

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The epics an exception. They can't seem to get the keyboard and radio figured out. This is the reason all sgs2s will be the sane and not have a keyboard lol. You also have to remember that update fiasco had more to do with carriers than Samsung themselves. The sgs had their updates right on time. I'm also curious about the op question. I've always wondered what would happen to your handset if cancelled within the first 6 months.
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Well, google didn't have much luck with the nexus s at first either Hence their nickname the Nexus B lol
I won't lie the, gs2 is a beast of a phone. I also think the E3D has been underutilized so far though, this phone has a lot more potential than it gets credit for. Plus the Evo was updated to gingerbread around the same time the epic was getting froyo, it would have came before but HTC waited for gingerbreak to be patched before pushing the update.
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I hate to admit it as I have been a die-hard HTC fan, but, as far as my experience is concerned (on 3rd E3D) I think they really botched this flagship. YMMV, of course.
So long as the SGS2 has a radio that is as good (read: no weaker than) the E3D I'll be happy. The Radio on the NS4G was pitifully weak, the E3D is no better...even after a few. I can live with this. The signal strength indicator can't be trusted on it's own, go by actual measurements and most importantly missed/dropped calls and roaming....and I miss and drop and roam more than ever. It sucks. I do love this phone. I will greatly miss the qHD.
I became fine with the uber-weak radio, but, the final straw is the increasingly bad power-on fiasco. Sometimes it does, some times it doesn't. Some times it will be plugged in with a green light locked up tight (requiring a battery pull and SD card pull) *AND* have a dead battery on top of it. It's at the point where I have a backup alarm set up. Yeah yeah yeah, if I need an alarm clock USE an alarm clock...well, no other phone ever gave me any issues, so, I'm going to say that it is not unreasonable to expect my phone to A> turn on and B> charge while plugged into the charger.
I've tried hard, I do love this phone...even the horrid form factor has really grown on me. But I barely use the 3D enough to really miss... I may keep the E3D, it is a rather unique phone, but, SGS2 here I come....Also, aside from touchwiz (which is easily disgarded) it is a nearly stock Android experience....and Samsung has Cyanogen on their payroll. That can't be bad.
I will miss you guys, I'll be back to visit though. It has been fun.

RushAOZ said:
The gs2 is blasphemy in these forums. The mods and posters with insecurity and denial will attack you. Dump the 3d. Get the gs2.
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Honestly, I think its more insecure when somebody has a decent phone and has to make a thread asking for their peers/competitions approval to get the other phone. Btw, I have a nokia 1100. Do you think I should upgrade to the nokia 6630?
I voided my warranty and your mum.

The reason the new phone does not appeal to me that much is because it is WIDE -even wider than the Evo 4G. And taller too.

pukemon said:
Honestly, I think its more insecure when somebody has a decent phone and has to make a thread asking for their peers/competitions approval to get the other phone. Btw, I have a nokia 1100. Do you think I should upgrade to the nokia 6630?
I voided my warranty and your mum.
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I see it more like asking the opinions of people you consider knowledgeable on the subject. You'd be a fool to not ask people who are very familiar with something when considering whether to buy it or not....especially when it's such a relatively pricey gadget. Take it as a compliment that someone (may) respect your opinion enough on the subject to take your advice to heart.
We are a community here. I doubt any of us actually give a crap of another approves of one another in a social context, especially when starting a thread like this (so long as it isn't obviously trollbait).

For the life of me i don't know why you won't take this into the correct forum...at this point you are trolling and trying to cause a flame war..go back to the Samsung website and dry hump a pic of the gs2 ..i mean its specs are unprecedented..a 1.2 ghz dual core...whoaa.. a gig of RAM? Holy moly...a wvga screen..omfg... This thing ****s on everything...there is nothing else like it..I bet it will load up webpages a third of a.second faster than the e3d and that is very important..mods pls get rid of this rush guy..he's been causing trouble for hours and its getting on everyones nerves

You guys know that instant feeling of anger, shame, befuddlement you get when you see a trailer for a movie that has already been made 2 times before?
And like... The 1st one wasn't good to begin with but it got a lot of "views" so they keep doing it...
Over
And over
And over...
Imagine that, this thread reminded me of those crappy remake movies.

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I see it more like asking the opinions of people you consider knowledgeable on the subject. You'd be a fool to not ask people who are very familiar with something when considering whether to buy it or not....especially when it's such a relatively pricey gadget.
We are a community here. I doubt any of us actually give a crap of another approves of one another in a social context, especially when starting a thread like this (so long as it isn't obviously trollbait).
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Are you serious? Its a phone that hasn't come out yet, and at that, it just a variation of a phone that is out with a bigger screen. Seriously? I could be real mean here but I wont. Guys do you think I should get the pink shirt with BIGGER yellow stripes?
I voided my warranty and your mum.

[Q] Trade my shift for nexus S???

Ok,Here me out I know this has been asked but I have a different situation and reall y need input as of right now I've read so many reviews and heard so many diff opinions I just want some help on here.
Ok so I bought the shift 11 days ago and realized while I have no problems with it I do want the most out of my upgrade, that being said I turned my attention towards the nexus S, also by the way I only wanted to spend 100 dollars no more than that or I would've gotten the Evo 3d or some other dual core awesome phone. Anyways, I know I would give up the hardware keyboard but feel this is inevitable and something I will eventually do. However the NS has a faster processor, better screen, bigger screen, no crap sprint apps you cant get rid of and a forward facing camera which is a big positive for me.
Heres the deal though I never go against reviews and all the stats say that the Shift wins by like a whole start on every review site. That being said a sprint tech said they have more returns on shifts than the NS and that he loves his NS. So I go in considering the trade and the salesman comforted me saying he wouldn't make the trade. I took his advice then got home and thought well of course the salesman said that it'd be cheaper and they'd have to refund me about 50 bucks and a hundred in the long run. Also I read it has bad wifi problems is that true? I'm sorry for the disorder of this post, I'm just extremely frustrated and don't have much time.
SO I know this has been long, but in eveyones opinion what would you do? i know the NS feels cheaper but I mean does that matter? With a nice case, a zag full body cover and insurance should that matter? Also, the 16gb no sd card thing doesn't bother me I don't think I'll ever and never have exceeded 4gb.
I only have 2 days to decide.
Thanks everyone in advance

Idk about the wifi or reception issues since I have the GSM version but the nexus s is much better than the shift in every way unless u like hardware keyboards. Its not as flimsy as everyone makes it seem, its a really solid and well built phone. easy decision.
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HAve you rooted it? I really don't want to but heard that the reception was fixed with last upgrade BUT they also got rid of the free hotspot which sucks. Do you use the forward facing camera?? THis is a key feature to me I really want to be good. Thanks so much man I just don't know I really appreciate any input.

Autumus said:
HAve you rooted it? I really don't want to but heard that the reception was fixed with last upgrade BUT they also got rid of the free hotspot which sucks. Do you use the forward facing camera?? THis is a key feature to me I really want to be good. Thanks so much man I just don't know I really appreciate any input.
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Yeah I rooted it since its so simple to do. Im running stock with a different kernel. Yeah I've used the front facer for Skype and gtalk, works well. I can't comment on the update for sprint because the update for GSM phones didn't stop the hotspot feature. But flashing a different rom will fix that for you and its really easy to do on this phone so you won't run into any difficulties.
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Geez thanks so much seriously. I'm a noob at the concept of rooting my last phone was a shift and I couldn't stand it. I read the shift rooting info and was like no theres no way I can do this. Thanks!

OH and one last question it seems you can't push emails to it other than gmail is this true? I can't imagine this being true and the sprint tech said you could, just want to confirm with someone other than a sprint tech.

Autumus said:
OH and one last question it seems you can't push emails to it other than gmail is this true? I can't imagine this being true and the sprint tech said you could, just want to confirm with someone other than a sprint tech.
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I only have Gmail and hotmail accounts. There's a Microsoft hotmail app that just came out that does push email, I think yahoo has an app too. Im not sure how the built in email app works but I'm sure that does push as well.
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I would switch in a heartbeat and never look back.
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My last phone was an Evo 4g and I don't regret switching to the NS4G one bit.
No wifi issues, or any other for that matter.
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No reception or wifi issues I promise you. Return ur phone to Sprint and go to Best Buy you'll get the Nexus for free. Honestly would rather have this phone over the 3d or the photon. You won't be disappointed.
Edit, Best Buy is also selling the photon for 99 with the upgrade as well.
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wow man thanks so much, unfortunately the best buy thing is only for NEW two year plans not upgrades womp womp still they'll have to give me 50$ back for what everyone seems to think is a better phone thanks so much to everyone any other comments are much welcomed I'd really like to hear anyones experience with the forward facing camera

WOw thanks all so much, and all other comments much welcomed, I'd love to hear any other experiences with the forward cam thanks!

You could always just sell the Shift on eBay and buy a Nexus. I paid $225 for mine last week and I'm sure the price will drop even more in the very near future.
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Front camera takes great pictures and looks good on chat, I use Skype, oovoo, n tango. All works really well.
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You need together the nexus s tomorrow!!!
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The NExus will get a quick update too right? LIke it will be one of the first to receive Ice Cream Sandwich right???

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The NExus will get a quick update too right? LIke it will be one of the first to receive Ice Cream Sandwich right???
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yea I think it will have ics after a month or two after the nexus prime comes out, but it will be the first single core to get ics. im pretty sure most of the single core phone wont even get ics but i could be wrong. lol

Do you think it will be able to properly run ICS? everything I've read says yes and that most likely hardware acceleration will actually make the NS faster and better, do you all agree with that?

I was in ths same boat as you. I came over from a hero read all ths reviews yada yada yada. I had no idea about root or anything. After doing a little but of reading I was able to root and Get the wireless hotspot back without any problems. Reception isn't bad at all on my phone, and I'm on wifi allll the time ABC it gets the sans signal strengths as my viao. As you said no bloatware to is great, along with knowing besides prime nexus a will get ICS before other phones. I had an eco for 3 days in a trial before the ns4g and am happy I switched. I am on the sprint network, and live in CO and even with where I work in the mountains hardly ever drop calls same with my widest nexus service reception is still great and fast enough to video chat which we do often and love on our phones using the front camera. Hope that helps!

Well....the dark side has finally gotten ahold of me....Ditching the S6 for the iPhon

I've finally gotten tired of dealing with all that I've had to deal with for having an android phone on VZW. I'm tired of having to hack a phone just to get it to work correctly and even then it wasn't a garauntee. Android you were fun while you lasted...been with you since Eclair was new
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Androids not the problem its Verizon. I think you just jumped out of the frying pan, if you went Apple. ?

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I've finally gotten tired of dealing with all that I've had to deal with for having an android phone on VZW. I'm tired of having to hack a phone just to get it to work correctly and even then it wasn't a garauntee. Android you were fun while you lasted...been with you since Eclair was new
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I thought Android was the darkside . My wife and I went to Best Buy on Friday for new phones. I have always purchased Andriod and she always get's an iPhone. My wife got a 6S which was just made available and I seriously considered getting one also. One thing about iPhones is that though they are locked down they just work and they work great. I have owned 3 Android tablets and 5 phones. It seems like I spend more time tweaking them with rooting and ROMs than using them. My wife never does anything with her phone but install apps and she never have issues. So after about 15 minutes with a patient young sales girl I ended up with the S6 anyway. I was lucky enough to get an OE2 firmware and I already rooted. But I'm seriously considering taking the latest update and get out of the rooting and ROMs hassle. I have about 10 days left to decide if I going to keep or return the S6. My main concern is the battery. I'm retired and I have a landline so I probably don't use my phone as much as most people here but I travel often and don't want to worry about running out of juice. So if the S6 doesn't pan out I'm leaving the darkside for an iPhone.

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Androids not the problem its Verizon. I think you just jumped out of the frying pan, if you went Apple. ?
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It may not be inherently an issue with Android, but the issues Android has on verizon are not present on Apple devices.
When Apple agreed to place the iPhone on VZW, Verizon had to give them sole control of their software. The only thing VZW does is the baseband and radio for their networks. Everything else is in Apple's sole control. There is no verizon bloatware, VZW can NOT add or remove any software or features, ie...Samsung pay....
I believe that many of the issues that Android devices suffer from stem directly from verizon putting their noses where they don't belong.
It's taken years for me to get to this point. I've owned numerous Android phones from all of the manufacturers, and it's truly been an enjoyable ride. But the increasingly difficult security coupled with vzw's encroachment into the software side of the house has driven me to get fed up with it all. I just want a phone that works....that doesn't suffer from horrible memory leaks, that has decent battery life, that isn't plagued with cell standby issues, and evidently going to the iPhone is the only reliable way to do that.
I like the S6. But it does have it's issues. The main one for me is battery life. This could be because they decided to shrink the battery down or from software flaws...ie cell standby, memory management, or bluetooth being enabled never allows the phone to go into deep sleep (this is a new one I started experiencing a few weeks ago). Plain and simple....I have owned the S6 since launch day and the battery life is terrible. I have yet to get through a half a day without needing to charge and that is just unacceptable to me. My fiance has had her iphone 6s since the 24th and has only charged it twice. With 3-4 hr on screen time a day and pandora running for about an hour a day.
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nateohio said:
It may not be inherently an issue with Android, but the issues Android has on verizon are not present on Apple devices.
When Apple agreed to place the iPhone on VZW, Verizon had to give them sole control of their software. The only thing VZW does is the baseband and radio for their networks. Everything else is in Apple's sole control. There is no verizon bloatware, VZW can NOT add or remove any software or features, ie...Samsung pay....
I believe that many of the issues that Android devices suffer from stem directly from verizon putting their noses where they don't belong.
It's taken years for me to get to this point. I've owned numerous Android phones from all of the manufacturers, and it's truly been an enjoyable ride. But the increasingly difficult security coupled with vzw's encroachment into the software side of the house has driven me to get fed up with it all. I just want a phone that works....that doesn't suffer from horrible memory leaks, that has decent battery life, that isn't plagued with cell standby issues, and evidently going to the iPhone is the only reliable way to do that.
I like the S6. But it does have it's issues. The main one for me is battery life. This could be because they decided to shrink the battery down or from software flaws...ie cell standby, memory management, or bluetooth being enabled never allows the phone to go into deep sleep (this is a new one I started experiencing a few weeks ago). Plain and simple....I have owned the S6 since launch day and the battery life is terrible. I have yet to get through a half a day without needing to charge and that is just unacceptable to me. My fiance has had her iphone 6s since the 24th and has only charged it twice. With 3-4 hr on screen time a day and pandora running for about an hour a day.
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This is very true. I love Android, but I am sick of having to jump through holes just to get it to be clean. I hate how Verizon butchers everything and Samsung doesn't have the balls to stand up to them. Apple is able to do that. I have no hatred against Android nor iOS. I go by features that fit my requirements and the S6 has the best - Primary being the camera. However, I've noticed my photos have been blurry and the S6 can't decide what to do in low-light and doesn't use flash, which forces me to have people re-pose what should have been candid. I do believe the iPhone 6s will have the better camera (or at least he software to use the camera) and I would like to jump to it. It's just, the lack of IR, private mode (obviously just software), and battery life/fast charging, are big killers for me. Given the smaller battery and worse battery life, charging the damn thing is so slow. At least implement a fast charging feature and I can overlook my laziness of looking for my TV remote and privacy mode.

Bye. Please enjoy being told what you can and cannot install on your own phone!

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Bye. Please enjoy being told what you can and cannot install on your own phone!
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You do realize that Android / VZW do the exact same thing right? There is nothing that Android offers that Apple doesn't that's actually useful to me...I like widgets and such but I don't need them. And you know what? At least apple doesn't feel it necessary to force a hard warning about volume levels damaging my hearing...
Use to new able to remove that annoying little stuff via rooting/terminal emulator/ or romming.....well that's all but impossible now
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I can relate to what the OP is saying. I have had an android phone on Verizon since the OG Moto Droid. I enjoyed tweaking Android phones. I have the S6 64gb right now. I love certain features of the phone but it is flawed. I was hoping that the new Nexus phones would be great and they probably will. However I don't want to have to buy a phablet to get good specs and better battery life.
I just purchased the iPhone 6s for my wife. Were on vzw and I may switch myself. It is a struggle cause I don't know anything but Android.
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You do realize that Android / VZW do the exact same thing right? There is nothing that Android offers that Apple doesn't that's actually useful to me...I like widgets and such but I don't need them. And you know what? At least apple doesn't feel it necessary to force a hard warning about volume levels damaging my hearing...
Use to new able to remove that annoying little stuff via rooting/terminal emulator/ or romming.....well that's all but impossible now
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And I'd rather not be able to install apps that I may use occasionally versus having VZW for their crap products onto my phone and screwing it up in the process
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And please do tell me what's available on android that's not available on Apple devices? Other than gimmicks like widgets....which apple has kind of figured out a way to do those as well
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And please do tell me what's available on android that's not available on Apple devices? Other than gimmicks like widgets....which apple has kind of figured out a way to do those as well
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Haha enjoy your walled garden dude. I hope Apple approves of all the apps you want to install because you're not installing them otherwise. Maybe you don't have a problem with it but I hate being told what I can and cannot install. If I have to sit here and point out all the things you can't do on iOS that you can do on Android then you're better off with iJunk anyway. Have fun! Say hi to the "geniuses" for me. Once again, bye.

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Haha enjoy your walled garden dude. I hope Apple approves of all the apps you want to install because you're not installing them otherwise. Maybe you don't have a problem with it but I hate being told what I can and cannot install. If I have to sit here and point out all the things you can't do on iOS that you can do on Android then you're better off with iJunk anyway. Have fun! Say hi to the "geniuses" for me. Once again, bye.
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Still can't come up with anything? Face it dude....as time goes by they are getting to be more similar....
I love fan boys it's always hilarious
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Still can't come up with anything? Face it dude....as time goes by they are getting to be more similar....
I love fan boys it's always hilarious
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Oh you mean like the people who post about Apple in the GS6 forum just for attention? Just switch and leave. Change your iphone launcher or sideload an app. Maybe use NFC to initiate a macro. Activate your notification light with different colors for different apps... the list is endless. I'm not sure what you are looking for.

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Oh you mean like the people who post about Apple in the GS6 forum just for attention? Just switch and leave. Change your iphone launcher or sideload an app. Maybe use NFC to initiate a macro. Activate your notification light with different colors for different apps... the list is endless. I'm not sure what you are looking for.
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I'm far past the point in my life where I need to be validated by anonymous people on the Internet...chances are...judging by your behavior....I was using Android while you were still in elementary school. If you'd bother to have read my posts, you'd know that I've been using /hacking /flashing android devices since long before they became mainstream. Get over yourself
My post was meant for those users (who btw outnumber you in this thread) that may be in similar situations or experiences.
Changing my launcher? I don't even do that on android devices....too many bugs most of the time. Use NFC to initiate a Macro? I've done that, and it can make things a little more convenient. But I would rather use it to pay at the store. Something you can't do with the S6 because verizon has the android companies by the balls and just says "we aren't going to allow you have that feature" ...changing led colors? Really? Why even mention that?
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I can relate to what the OP is saying. I have had an android phone on Verizon since the OG Moto Droid. I enjoyed tweaking Android phones. I have the S6 64gb right now. I love certain features of the phone but it is flawed. I was hoping that the new Nexus phones would be great and they probably will. However I don't want to have to buy a phablet to get good specs and better battery life.
I just purchased the iPhone 6s for my wife. Were on vzw and I may switch myself. It is a struggle cause I don't know anything but Android.
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That's what I'm saying. I've been doing it for so long it's just become second nature. I miss the OG Droid....that was a tinkerers dream. After years of doing it though, I'd rather spend the time doing things that are more fun. In other words, I don't care about customization options or 3rd party apps anymore. I just want a phone that actually works and works well out of the box, not needing any intervention on my part other than picking it up and turning it on.
This most recent issue with my bluetooth not allowing my phone to sleep was the straw that broke the camels back for me. Could I fix the problem? Probably....do I want to devote the time to it? Nope....not anymore.
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Oh you mean like the people who post about Apple in the GS6 forum just for attention? Just switch and leave. Change your iphone launcher or sideload an app. Maybe use NFC to initiate a macro. Activate your notification light with different colors for different apps... the list is endless. I'm not sure what you are looking for.
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Don't see why you're bashing on what other people want to do with a freaking cell phone choice. You insinuating other people trolling here when you're the troll yourself. Get off your high horse and enjoy the phone that YOU have and let other people do what they want. You're not going to convince anyone talking crap on them. Get over yourself
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Don't see why you're bashing on what other people want to do with a freaking cell phone choice. You insinuating other people trolling here when you're the troll yourself. Get off your high horse and enjoy the phone that YOU have and let other people do what they want. You're not going to convince anyone talking crap on them. Get over yourself
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Until recently you would have been hard pressed to find a bigger advocate for Android than me. There were always two features that kept me with Samsung...a removable battery and expandable storage. But when you remove those two features and basically make an iPhone clone you are going to lose on the software front. Especially when your hobbled by VZW and all the crap that they do to mess up a pretty good product.
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harrytery said:
Don't see why you're bashing on what other people want to do with a freaking cell phone choice. You insinuating other people trolling here when you're the troll yourself. Get off your high horse and enjoy the phone that YOU have and let other people do what they want. You're not going to convince anyone talking crap on them. Get over yourself
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Hey pot meet the kettle. I find it ironic how YOU (lol at that btw) brought absolutely nothing to the conversation except an attack on me. At least I brought facts into it along with my opinion. You're just a troll yourself.
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nateohio said:
Until recently you would have been hard pressed to find a bigger advocate for Android than me. There were always two features that kept me with Samsung...a removable battery and expandable storage. But when you remove those two features and basically make an iPhone clone you are going to lose on the software front. Especially when your hobbled by VZW and all the crap that they do to mess up a pretty good product.
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Yeah VZW could mess up a wet dream, that I cannot argue lol. Samsung I give credit to because at least they try change, for better or for worse, at least they try.

Eddie Hicks said:
I thought Android was the darkside . My wife and I went to Best Buy on Friday for new phones. I have always purchased Andriod and she always get's an iPhone. My wife got a 6S which was just made available and I seriously considered getting one also. One thing about iPhones is that though they are locked down they just work and they work great. I have owned 3 Android tablets and 5 phones. It seems like I spend more time tweaking them with rooting and ROMs than using them. My wife never does anything with her phone but install apps and she never have issues. So after about 15 minutes with a patient young sales girl I ended up with the S6 anyway. I was lucky enough to get an OE2 firmware and I already rooted. But I'm seriously considering taking the latest update and get out of the rooting and ROMs hassle. I have about 10 days left to decide if I going to keep or return the S6. My main concern is the battery. I'm retired and I have a landline so I probably don't use my phone as much as most people here but I travel often and don't want to worry about running out of juice. So if the S6 doesn't pan out I'm leaving the darkside for an iPhone.
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I have an S6 and the battery is a LOT better than I thought it would be. I use my phone CONSTANTLY for work everyday outside with the brightness all the way up and I usually make it home most days with a little juice left. I have a Mophie case on it everyday but rarely have to use it.

There both good operating systems it doesn't have to be one or the other yea a nexus is fun to flash the **** out of it but obviously Apple doing something right too it's more about Verizons locked bootloaders.