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If you had to change phones soon...

I liked the Charge, but having non stop issues day after day. Extremely poor call quality when the phone gets below 20%, M$ Exchange email doesnt work, calendar wont sync, data always disconnects, etc.
Made about a dozen calls and finally got a hold of a regional manager that is willing to help me out, or so he says. Told me he would be able to get me an early upgrade price so trying to decide what route to go.
Prior to being an android user, I had the iPhone from the first version and dropped the iPhone 4 back in July for the 4G device. Saved me some money from having to buy a 4G hotspot and a phone, plus iPhone was limited and couldn't handle a few things that I needed. Seems to be better, but its still a 3G phone.
New Nexus looks pretty good, but heard some things not so good about them. Is it better to wait as it seems new phones come out every week, or better to pull the trigger on the Nexus now?

bossku69 said:
I liked the Charge, but having non stop issues day after day. Extremely poor call quality when the phone gets below 20%, M$ Exchange email doesnt work, calendar wont sync, data always disconnects, etc.
Made about a dozen calls and finally got a hold of a regional manager that is willing to help me out, or so he says. Told me he would be able to get me an early upgrade price so trying to decide what route to go.
Prior to being an android user, I had the iPhone from the first version and dropped the iPhone 4 back in July for the 4G device. Saved me some money from having to buy a 4G hotspot and a phone, plus iPhone was limited and couldn't handle a few things that I needed. Seems to be better, but its still a 3G phone.
New Nexus looks pretty good, but heard some things not so good about them. Is it better to wait as it seems new phones come out every week, or better to pull the trigger on the Nexus now?
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TBH if it were me I'd just wait for the next big smartphone of Q1/Q2, they'll be as good or better spec-wise than the Nexus however you'll be missing out on the pure AOSP experience and timely updates... its not that important to me so I'll be doing this, I'm gonna probably pick up the next HTC superphone (a little tired of samsung now though I love their hardware)

I have the Galaxy Nexus right now and its the best phone I've ever had. Sure they're some minor problems with it like with any new device. But nothing at all that makes it unusable or annoying.
I wouldn't wait for phones that come out at CES 2012 because they won't be available until Q2 at least. Plus all the Quad Core phones will all have problems working the kinks out since they'll be brand new. Much like the Thunderbolt, Charge, Revolution, and the (first) Bionic.
So my advice is to go with the Nexus. Better experience, faster updates, best phone I ever came across. Makes the iPhone 4S look puny and not fun at all IMO of course
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If you have to change now, go for the Nexus. If you can wait some months, then wait.
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Best phone for flashers = Galaxy Nexus
Best phone for stock users = Droid Razr
its simple really...

blarrick said:
Best phone for flashers = Galaxy Nexus
Best phone for stock users = Droid Razr
its simple really...
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Why do you say the RAZR is better than the Rezound for stock users out of curiosity? I could have had either as my displacement and went with the Rezound because it appeared to be the better phone overall based on what I read.
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The Nexus is still better for stock users because it's the only one with ICS. The OS is far more intuitive and coherent than Gingerbread, and that's exactly what matters the most for those users.
The only pluses in general for the Razr versus the Nexus are its thinness (and it's not even a huge difference compared to the Nexus, it's much more noticeable compared to the chunktastic Rezound) and less-plasticky/more durable build (kevlar back, splash-proof coating, not made by Samsung).

With what I know from reading -- I'd go for the Nexus. ICS cannot be ignored, and couple that with the amazing AMOLED screens Samsung uses and you have a winner.
I believe ALL the phones have some quirks, you just have to make sure you can live with them.
The Charge was not considered a successful phone, it was the baddest mama jama when I bought mine in early June and though its not perfect, it got a breath of life when GB was released for it. Fixed most of my issues!

anoninja118 said:
TBH if it were me I'd just wait for the next big smartphone of Q1/Q2, they'll be as good or better spec-wise than the Nexus however you'll be missing out on the pure AOSP experience and timely updates... its not that important to me so I'll be doing this, I'm gonna probably pick up the next HTC superphone (a little tired of samsung now though I love their hardware)
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Hes actually right. If youre getting a new phone just wait for the next big phone. We have Tegra 3 coming to smartphones in Q1 and just look at the 12mp camera/quad-core phones running ICS coming just in the first 3 months of this year. Wait it out bro.

Nexus is the best phone out there right now. As for the issues you're having, if you want full Exchange support, get a Windows Phone, otherwise get Touchdown as that is the only way to have reliable Exchange support on Android. Really though, I think you'll find problems with your next phone too just based on the OP.
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I completely disagree with the majority here. The HTC Rezound is by far the superior phone. Its 720p IPS LCD screen is *true* HD, not Pentile, and current OLED tech suffers from color inaccuracy and oversaturation. The subpixel count on the GNex is about equal to most 800x480 phones.
The Rezound's Adreno 220 GPU is also superior. The Gnex's GPU is just the Charge's PowerVR SGX 540 with 50% overclock. A nice comparison here: http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2011...htc-flyer-htc-desire-hd-and-samsung-galaxy-s/
The Rezound's camera is also better, and it has "Beats Audio" (not sure if that's any good though).

ambrar12 said:
I completely disagree with the majority here. The HTC Rezound is by far the superior phone. Its 720p IPS LCD screen is *true* HD, not Pentile, and current OLED tech suffers from color inaccuracy and oversaturation. The subpixel count on the GNex is about equal to most 800x480 phones.
The Rezound's Adreno 220 GPU is also superior. The Gnex's GPU is just the Charge's PowerVR SGX 540 with 50% overclock. A nice comparison here: http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2011...htc-flyer-htc-desire-hd-and-samsung-galaxy-s/
The Rezound's camera is also better, and it has "Beats Audio" (not sure if that's any good though).
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beats audio is garbage unless you like rap/hip-hop (thankfully the beats 'technology' doesn't kick in unless you plug in those craptastic beats headphones), the Rezound *might* have the Nexus beat in processor and camera but Nexus wins IMO screen-wise, its also unbloated/unskinned, will have first dibs on updates and with the zero lag shutter... meh its a toss-up I think, both are solid phones but I'd kinda lean toward the Nexus
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ambrar12 said:
I completely disagree with the majority here. The HTC Rezound is by far the superior phone. Its 720p IPS LCD screen is *true* HD, not Pentile, and current OLED tech suffers from color inaccuracy and oversaturation. The subpixel count on the GNex is about equal to most 800x480 phones.
The Rezound's Adreno 220 GPU is also superior. The Gnex's GPU is just the Charge's PowerVR SGX 540 with 50% overclock. A nice comparison here: http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2011...htc-flyer-htc-desire-hd-and-samsung-galaxy-s/
The Rezound's camera is also better, and it has "Beats Audio" (not sure if that's any good though).
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This post sounds like a complete HTC fanboy post. Some of those tests with the GPU were barely better than the original SGX540 GPU. It's also closer to a 100% overclock (200MHz in the Charge v. 384MHz in the Nexus), so I would think those tests would turn out vastly different if run with the Nexus GPU at the same resolutions.
Screen is debatable, and if you looked at the Nexus screen, you couldn't tell if it was pentile or not. Outdoor visibility has ALWAYS been the best on the SAMOLED screens though, and power consumption can be better with them as well.
Camera, I'd have to see to believe as I have NEVER heard of HTC using good quality image sensors. Just because it's 8MP compared to the Nexus's 5MP doesn't mean it's better. That's like saying a 16MP point-and-shoot takes better pictures than a 10MP DSLR. It can if the conditions are right, but usually, it won't.
Beats audio is also a complete sham as the audio processor in the Charge is better. You'll likely get worse audio from Beats than you would from the Nexus. Then lets not forget software upgrades and the lack of add-on apps, can you guess which one wins here? And you can probably forget about AOSP on the Rezound anytime soon as it took several months for Layher to get it on the TB, and I don't see anyone having the dedication to do that again.

imnuts said:
This post sounds like a complete HTC fanboy post. Some of those tests with the GPU were barely better than the original SGX540 GPU. It's also closer to a 100% overclock (200MHz in the Charge v. 384MHz in the Nexus), so I would think those tests would turn out vastly different if run with the Nexus GPU at the same resolutions.
Screen is debatable, and if you looked at the Nexus screen, you couldn't tell if it was pentile or not. Outdoor visibility has ALWAYS been the best on the SAMOLED screens though, and power consumption can be better with them as well.
Camera, I'd have to see to believe as I have NEVER heard of HTC using good quality image sensors. Just because it's 8MP compared to the Nexus's 5MP doesn't mean it's better. That's like saying a 16MP point-and-shoot takes better pictures than a 10MP DSLR. It can if the conditions are right, but usually, it won't.
Beats audio is also a complete sham as the audio processor in the Charge is better. You'll likely get worse audio from Beats than you would from the Nexus. Then lets not forget software upgrades and the lack of add-on apps, can you guess which one wins here? And you can probably forget about AOSP on the Rezound anytime soon as it took several months for Layher to get it on the TB, and I don't see anyone having the dedication to do that again.
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Also it took the rezound like 2 months just to receive root so their Dev community is probably pretty bare
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Just checked the Rezound forum. Apparently they already have an ICS ROM thanks to an ICS leak for the "Sensation XL", whatever that is.
As for AMOLED, unfortunately it's not mature enough yet and drains more battery than LCD as well as having inaccurate colors and oversaturation. And with a 720p pentile you won't notice the pixels but I don't think the sharpness would be as good as a true 720p RGB screen (I could be wrong, but I personally wouldn't bother taking the chance).
As for Beats Audio, I kinda figured you wouldn't be able to get hi-fi music quality without a proprietary port.
Also one other thing that (for me) is a real deal-breaker is lack of microSD slot on the GNexus. I have no idea what Google was thinking there.

ambrar12 said:
Just checked the Rezound forum. Apparently they already have an ICS ROM thanks to an ICS leak for the "Sensation XL", whatever that is.
As for AMOLED, unfortunately it's not mature enough yet and drains more battery than LCD as well as having inaccurate colors and oversaturation. And with a 720p pentile you won't notice the pixels but I don't think the sharpness would be as good as a true 720p RGB screen (I could be wrong, but I personally wouldn't bother taking the chance).
As for Beats Audio, I kinda figured you wouldn't be able to get hi-fi music quality without a proprietary port.
Also one other thing that (for me) is a real deal-breaker is lack of microSD slot on the GNexus. I have no idea what Google was thinking there.
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Hooray for an ICS ROM that is very buggy, I know I'll use that all the time Can't wait to get a Sense'd version with as many useless apps as Verizon and jam into it. Glad to see you ignored the AOSP comment completely as well.
The screen statement is somewhat untrue as well. The issue with battery life comes when you're using bright colors or video. If you use black, you get excellent battery life as black pixels use 0 power for AMOLED screens, how much power does a black pixel use on an LCD panel? Inaccurate colors are one thing, as that depends on several factors, but it can be corrected, as can the over-saturation. Are there issues with the technology? Sure, but I'll take a SAMOLED screen over an LCD panel every day. Oh, and how about contrast ratio comparison between the two? How about comparing the thickness of a full screen assembly (touch sensor, backlight, and display) between AMOLED and tradition LCD? There are reasons that it's being used, despite how bad you think the technology is.
No MicroSD slot, now we're just nit-picking. Is it a bad thing? Kinda. However, how often do people change them? I only ever changed it out to get a faster card. The only thing I miss about having one is that I could just copy over my backed up data easily to the Nexus. Other than that, it's pointless and I don't see anyone having issues with the lack of a microSD card.
Oh, you also forgot to comment about the GPU tests and the camera. Is the Rezound a bad phone? No, but if you want long term support, I don't think you're going to beat the Nexus as it will see several updates in the future, and even if Google stops updating it, the community will keep it going. Plus, any issues you see can be fixed by the community before Google gets around to it, so you can see fixes faster if there are problems. The Rezound? It will probably see an OTA to ICS, then probably two more OTAs for bug fixes, after that, probably not much. Good luck getting AOSP on it, as that will take a long time, if ever; just see the Thunderbolt as an example. Community driven fixes? When's the last time HTC took bug fix advice from the public if it wasn't a security issue?

ambrar12 said:
Just checked the Rezound forum. Apparently they already have an ICS ROM thanks to an ICS leak for the "Sensation XL", whatever that is.
As for AMOLED, unfortunately it's not mature enough yet and drains more battery than LCD as well as having inaccurate colors and oversaturation. And with a 720p pentile you won't notice the pixels but I don't think the sharpness would be as good as a true 720p RGB screen (I could be wrong, but I personally wouldn't bother taking the chance).
As for Beats Audio, I kinda figured you wouldn't be able to get hi-fi music quality without a proprietary port.
Also one other thing that (for me) is a real deal-breaker is lack of microSD slot on the GNexus. I have no idea what Google was thinking there.
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Haha Rezound. You can keep that fat, whored-out (Beats scam, bloated up, Sense..), cheesy red colored locked-down brick. HTC is really becoming like Motorola by locking down their devices which creates delays and frustration for people like us. It will receive an update sure.. once. Until they release their new Super Amazing Incredible Orgasmic Deluxe 4G.
Also I hate the volume and power buttons on that phone, they are pretty much flush and have no tactile feel (mushy), don't even start on the horrendous battery life of HTC phones.
Sure the GNEX might not be ideal in every way, but neither is the Rezound. Just because you prefer it doesn't mean everyone else does too

I'd take SAMOLED Plus over LCD, but my personal experience with Pentile (browsing at Verizon store) has been pretty negative.
My point with the SD card was for the sake of extra storage. This is one of the most irritating aspects of the iPhone. These days there are 64 GB microSDXC cards out. The 32 GB card price keeps falling.

I'd wait too. I would want something with dev support like the Galaxy Nexus, but at least 8 MP rear-facing camera and hopefully >2 MP front-facing.

Go with the Nexus if you need a phone now....I have it and I love it. There are almost too many developers on that phone, which is a nice change coming from the charge.
The thing that annoys me most about the Rezound is the power button is on the wrong side of the phone. I use either my thumb or pointer finger of my right hand to push the power button. It's pretty awkward doing that on the rezound. Maybe it's just me lol

[Q] Should I get the Maxx HD?

Hey All,
I'm sure this forum is a bit on the biased side, but I'm between two phones now I think. I'm looking at the Razr Maxx HD and the One X+. Any reasons I should get a Maxx HD over a One X+ other than battery life? I'm torn as I really like the battery life on the Maxx HD, but the camera on the HTC is better. Is the camera on the Razr HD really that bad? I think the camera is my only big hang up from getting this phone over the One X+. I need something that's going to last me two years due to signing a contract so I want to make sure I'm making the right choice. I'm coming from an iPhone 4, so my camera right now is only 5mp and much older, so really if it's better than that I don't need the best. Just torn on what to do. I've also read the One X+ rules really hot and that the quad core in it isn't much faster than most of the dual cores out there. I'm not going to be gaming or at least any high graphic games.
Thanks,
Tim

linedpaper said:
Hey All,
I'm sure this forum is a bit on the biased side, but I'm between two phones now I think. I'm looking at the Razr Maxx HD and the One X+. Any reasons I should get a Maxx HD over a One X+ other than battery life? I'm torn as I really like the battery life on the Maxx HD, but the camera on the HTC is better. Is the camera on the Razr HD really that bad? I think the camera is my only big hang up from getting this phone over the One X+. I need something that's going to last me two years due to signing a contract so I want to make sure I'm making the right choice. I'm coming from an iPhone 4, so my camera right now is only 5mp and much older, so really if it's better than that I don't need the best. Just torn on what to do. I've also read the One X+ rules really hot and that the quad core in it isn't much faster than most of the dual cores out there. I'm not going to be gaming or at least any high graphic games.
Thanks,
Tim
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Well i as you posted it in razr hd forum.. most of the people obviously will recommend you Razr HD but here are few reasons to it.
1. Better Battery Life (Huge Huge Plus)
2. Superior Build Quality (Personally I haven`t seen One X+ but Motorola really did well on this phone)
3. Clean ROM. (Very similar to stock Android)
4. Camera : I think its not a big let down like many people are claiming on other forums. I have clicked many photographs and made few videos and seriously i really liked the quality. It can shoot HDR photos and videos. If you are so concerned about camera go check the phone at the store and try clicking photographs.
5. Best Radio Reception: I have used samsung, sony ericsson, htc, apple in last few years, but the call quality on motorola is really good. I don`t know what other people think, but i felt the difference.

I recognize that there will be a bias in this forum, but I wanted to hear from owners of the phone which is why I went here instead of a general forum. I posted something similar in the One X+ forum as well. All the pros are the reasons I want the phone, the dual/quad core doesn't concern me too much, particularly as I've read the One X+ quad core really performs like a dual core. The camera has been my one hold up. I'll have to go play with one in a store and take some pictures, I figure it has to be better than the 5mp on my iPhone 4 and that's what all my pics are with now. The One X+ does feel pretty solid in terms of build quality, but the battery and heat concern me. It's got an unlockable bootloader too so that's one plus it has, however as long as I can root the Maxx HD, I'll be ok.
Thanks,
Tim
Motorolalover said:
Well i as you posted it in razr hd forum.. most of the people obviously will recommend you Razr HD but here are few reasons to it.
1. Better Battery Life (Huge Huge Plus)
2. Superior Build Quality (Personally I haven`t seen One X+ but Motorola really did well on this phone)
3. Clean ROM. (Very similar to stock Android)
4. Camera : I think its not a big let down like many people are claiming on other forums. I have clicked many photographs and made few videos and seriously i really liked the quality. It can shoot HDR photos and videos. If you are so concerned about camera go check the phone at the store and try clicking photographs.
5. Best Radio Reception: I have used samsung, sony ericsson, htc, apple in last few years, but the call quality on motorola is really good. I don`t know what other people think, but i felt the difference.
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Tough choice, if you need the battery life go with razr. If you want a better camera go HTC. One x camera is not that great so I doubt you'd be that bothered. Most top end phones have comparable cameras ... Reading some reviews you'd think they were miles apart. Real world use I doubt you'd really tell the difference. I'd recommend you try them both.
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[Q] Razr hd vs galaxy s2

Hi guys I post this treat to compare MOTOROLA RAZR HD VS SAMSUNG GALAXY SII.
I own both of them and with the official firmwares i think its better the korean one, here are my reasons.
MOTOROLA RAZR HD
Good battery (mAh 2500)
Nice design
Bad camera quality
Poor camera app, but fast
Screen colors are bad (maybe it is just me but black isn't black, and there are some spot darker)
Poor apps to begin with, there is no radio app, no notes app.
SmartAction is the only good app, but i wish it can do more, like activate this at call or deactivate afther call.
Really suck having a looked phone, but it is also understandable to do that if you root and bric it, ITS YOUR FAULT!
SAMSUNG GALAXY SII
Really light, i always forget where i placed it, and then find out it is in my poket.
Basic design
Good colors, I watched many movies and series with it and when it is a black screen, it looked almost like if it is off or locked.
Good starting apps
Good camera app, with many feature, like macro focussing or text photos etc
Camera is also 8MP but much better than Motorola one.
Even if I lost this phone now i regret to not having bought another Samsung.
Let me know what you think about it
and give me some ideas to fix my RAZR HD not rooted Jelly bean 4.1.1

Chadz88 said:
Hi guys I post this treat to compare MOTOROLA RAZR HD VS SAMSUNG GALAXY SII.
I own both of them and with the official firmwares i think its better the korean one, here are my reasons.
MOTOROLA RAZR HD
Good battery (mAh 2500)
Nice design
Bad camera quality
Poor camera app, but fast
Screen colors are bad (maybe it is just me but black isn't black, and there are some spot darker)
Poor apps to begin with, there is no radio app, no notes app.
SmartAction is the only good app, but i wish it can do more, like activate this at call or deactivate afther call.
Really suck having a looked phone, but it is also understandable to do that if you root and bric it, ITS YOUR FAULT!
SAMSUNG GALAXY SII
Really light, i always forget where i placed it, and then find out it is in my poket.
Basic design
Good colors, I watched many movies and series with it and when it is a black screen, it looked almost like if it is off or locked.
Good starting apps
Good camera app, with many feature, like macro focussing or text photos etc
Camera is also 8MP but much better than Motorola one.
Even if I lost this phone now i regret to not having bought another Samsung.
Let me know what you think about it
and give me some ideas to fix my RAZR HD not rooted Jelly bean 4.1.1
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I can't understand why people complain about camera. The camera of Razr HD is really good, provided you know how to use it. If you are looking for professional quality i would suggest you to buy a DSLR rather than expecting it from a phone. I have Samsung Galaxy S3 and when i see shots from both phones on my large screen, trust me, no one could tell the difference which is taken with which phone.
The AMOLED display of Razr HD is best.. two advantages of this are that it consume less battery and secondly the black is really black. Try adjusting screen brightness to see if it helps. If you are not so found of this display switch to IPS display phones like LG optimus G, but then you will complain about battery life. Trust me you can never get everything in one package.
You can download any app (Radio, Notes) you want from Play store .. Why complain that you don't have it pre loaded? Samsung does provide a few good apps but i have seen the crap they load along with some goodies.
So my whole point of this post was that you can't really compare two phones. Every phone has its pro's and con's. No phone is perfect. I can tell you 10 bad things about Galaxy S3.. but its irrelevent.
Solution : Try installing CM10 and see if it live upto your expectations.

Thank for your opinion, I'm gonna unlock it first then root
Aftherward I will install one custom rom
CM 10 isn't ready for this phone yet, and i dont think the official developer of it will improve
so I might try something else maybe try to cook by my own, and there is ubuntu coming

Razr hd is excelent choise, I turned off 4G and bloatware and batt last enought, and I say enought! camera is not like the one in xperia s but works "good" great screen and nfc, great greate quality in materials. multicolor notification led by the way.

RAZR HD
RAZR HD is the way to go with out a doubt.
I have owned Galaxy S, Galaxy S II and I can tell you - RAZR HD makes me truly happy! Even with LTE on, It lasts me on average 28-38 hours depending on how much music I listen to.
The screen is awesome, camera is nice as well. Again, this is not a DSLR - this is a mobile phone. Even on 4.0.4, it is nicely optimized. One of the best feature I found on the RAZR (yes I owned XT910 as well) is Smart Actions. You can set requirements for a profile to be launched (as well as actions to be executed - turn on/off wifi, send a text message and etc.).
Final thoughts, RAZR HD over any phone atm IMHO.

well, you guys sound really satisfied, i'm getting souspicious that i might purchased a bugged phone, I must check someone else razr hd before confirmation

Camera question from S3 user

I have an s3 but am considering a RAZR HD. I use the camera quite a bit and was wondering if anyone has had both phones and can give me an honest comparison.
Every review says if it wasn't for the camera it would be a better phone. Looking for some advice cause I love the build quality and feel.
Thanks.
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If you have better lighting than the camera takes pretty decent pictured (better than my iPhone 4s), but when your in a low lightening area or dark rooms the camera is ****. Also no image stabilization it sucks beside that its a pretty decent camera as long as you can take pictures without shaking your hands lol. But rest of the phone quality wise is 200 times better than gs3

Well, every phone has its pro's and cons. I would first of all suggest you get the razr hd maxx, since you cant swap batteries. I assume you take lots of pictures, and that takes battery life.
As a new owner of a razr maxx HD, I can't answer your question directly. However I think the razr hd/maxx is superior to the gs3. My friends have had many more issues with screen cracking on the gs3 than the razr hd/maxx. The radio is much better in motorola devices compared to samsung. That is definitely a plus for uploading photos, txting, and making calls.
The camera on my samsung galaxy nexus definitely took pictures a lot faster. It was running 4.2.2 so I'm sure once the update comes out, maybe the camera speed will improve. Hope this influences your decision.

I have an s3 but am considering a RAZR HD. I use the camera quite a bit and was wondering if anyone has had both phones and can give me an honest comparison.
Every review says if it wasn't for the camera it would be a better phone. Looking for some advice cause I love the build quality and feel.
Thanks.
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Honestly, there is no comparison.
The HD is not in the same league as the S3, however with root & bootloader unlock (not that I recommend), I have installed and tested about 6 cameras apps:
4 from the Google store & 2 customized apk files. I plan to keep the nexus 4 4.2 version apk file & the Snap camera from Google play.
The 2 are producing better quality pictures than the stock camera (if you need fast camera install the burst camera from Google play).

itzik_man said:
Honestly, there is no comparison.
The HD is not in the same league as the S3,....
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What do you mean exactly?

mpetruzz said:
I have an s3 but am considering a RAZR HD. I use the camera quite a bit and was wondering if anyone has had both phones and can give me an honest comparison.
Every review says if it wasn't for the camera it would be a better phone. Looking for some advice cause I love the build quality and feel.
Thanks.
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I came from the S2. I tested out the S3 quite a bit in the store as my wife was considering it. The camera on the S3 was really impressive with the number of shots it could take though I didn't take one home and see it in all conditions.
The only fair comparision I can make, though, is between the S2 and the RAZR HD. I would advise that if the camera quality is important, that the RAZR HD is NOT the phone for you. Samsung is, and has been, way ahead of what the RAZR is packing as far as photos go. The S3 is supposed to be much better than the S2 in respect of features and shutter speed at the very least, so I'd advise sticking with the Samsung and that's advice based on their S2 camera which is getting dated now. As much as people want to love their phone and think its the best, the camera is very much the weakest link on my phone. Its the only thing I miss about my S2.
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What do you mean exactly?
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I think he means that the Samsung's S3's camera blows the RAZR HD's camera out of the water.

Is everybody using the Jelly Bean update? I know a lot of people on this forum have probably downgraded to ICS for Root reasons, but I have found the Jelly Bean stock camera is fantastic.
To prove my point, I had a Galaxy Note 2 (same or nearly the same camera as the S3) and I was flipping back and forth between the Razr HD and the Note 2. Finally after a lot of personal camera tests I sold the Note 2 because I think the Razr HD has a better camera.
Again, I am talking about ONLY the stock camera AFTER the Jellly Bean Update. Before this, on ICS the camera was a disaster. Now there are some other features of ICS I wish I had. For instance my speaker is much lower after the update and I can't root the phone any longer. I was rooted, and used Voodoo but my OTA update failed so I had to flash manually.
Anyway, if the camera is a deciding factor (and it was for me) get the Razr HD. All other things being relatively close, I think it is the better phone.

stiffi2011 said:
Is everybody using the Jelly Bean update? I know a lot of people on this forum have probably downgraded to ICS for Root reasons, but I have found the Jelly Bean stock camera is fantastic.
To prove my point, I had a Galaxy Note 2 (same or nearly the same camera as the S3) and I was flipping back and forth between the Razr HD and the Note 2. Finally after a lot of personal camera tests I sold the Note 2 because I think the Razr HD has a better camera.
Again, I am talking about ONLY the stock camera AFTER the Jellly Bean Update. Before this, on ICS the camera was a disaster. Now there are some other features of ICS I wish I had. For instance my speaker is much lower after the update and I can't root the phone any longer. I was rooted, and used Voodoo but my OTA update failed so I had to flash manually.
Anyway, if the camera is a deciding factor (and it was for me) get the Razr HD. All other things being relatively close, I think it is the better phone.
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After using the droid razr maxx hd for a few more days, my impressions of the camera are good. It takes pictures as quickly as the S3. Maybe we can post some pictures, one with natural light, one with artificial light, from both models and compare? I'm sure there are already some photos out there in reviews that let you compare.
Sounds like the update improved the camera a lot.

I'm wondering if my handset has a bad camera after reading other people's satisfaction with theirs.

PantsDownJedi said:
I'm wondering if my handset has a bad camera after reading other people's satisfaction with theirs.
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probaby depends on what you are taking pictures of. I should clarify, the camera still struggles with graininess in low light. I have yet to find a cell phone camera that does not, however. I was just pointing out that the biggest faults from the ICS update like the slow shutter and inability to focus at close range have been fixed in Jelly Bean
I think in daylight, or good indoor light, the camera is about as good as anything I've tried with the possible exception of the Pureview 808.
Just don't expect miracles.
For reference, over the last 24 months I have owned:
Iphone 4, Dell Streak 5 and 7, Galaxy Captivate, Galaxy S2, Galaxy Captivate Glide, Galaxy Note 1, and 2, HTC Amaze, LG Optimus 4x, Xperia Play, ION, X10 and X10 Mini, Pantech Flex, Nokia 808 Pureview, Motorola Backflip, Razr and now Razr HD

itzik_man said:
Honestly, there is no comparison.
The HD is not in the same league as the S3, however with root & bootloader unlock (not that I recommend), I have installed and tested about 6 cameras apps:
4 from the Google store & 2 customized apk files. I plan to keep the nexus 4 4.2 version apk file & the Snap camera from Google play.
The 2 are producing better quality pictures than the stock camera (if you need fast camera install the burst camera from Google play).
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Can you explain this? Are you saying that you put a nexus apk on your razr hd? Is the Snap camera the best that you've found for the HD?

notyourstar said:
Can you explain this? Are you saying that you put a nexus apk on your razr hd? Is the Snap camera the best that you've found for the HD?
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I've been searching for the 4.2.2 apk and haven't been able to find it. Can someone point me in the right direction?? Thanks!

jfriend33 said:
After using the droid razr maxx hd for a few more days, my impressions of the camera are good. It takes pictures as quickly as the S3. Maybe we can post some pictures, one with natural light, one with artificial light, from both models and compare? I'm sure there are already some photos out there in reviews that let you compare.
Sounds like the update improved the camera a lot.
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Here is a picture I took today at a pottery studio. Its natural light on auto mode. Notice the great colors and how the camera handles the light. You can see sun rays as well as shadows all in the same frame.
Once again this is full stock 4.1.2 ROM and camera app.

[Q] Looking for better camera quality on a phone

Here's the deal. In the past few months, I've owned almost every high end phone (iPhone 5, 5S, Galaxy S3, S4, Note 2, Nexus 4, HTC One, Motorola Droid Razr MAXX HD, Moto X, etc.). Overall, (NOT in terms of megapixels, specs, or on-paper features, but in everyday use) the iPhones have the best, fastest, most consistent cameras for taking quick good pictures (again, just my opinion and experience). All the Android phones I've had, I tried the stock camera apps as well as ones on custom ROMs I installed and apps like Focal, and none could match the iPhone for pure reliability and consistency. For example, the Samsung phones take fantastic, high quality pictures—in some situations. And sometimes they'll take 5+ seconds after I press the shutter button to refocus and actually capture anything. I have other gripes with the other phones, including the iPhone, but won't list them here unless someone asks to know.
Interestingly enough, the best pictures I have from a phone came from an old Motorla Droid Razr Maxx running Cyanogenmod 10.1, on pretty much stock Jellybean 4.2.2, from the stock google camera app. It definitely did not do as good a job of automatically adjusting exposure, but when I focused a good shot, it almost always came out great, exactly as I'd seen it on the screen, very sharp and detailed with good and realistic colors. Since then, somehow no other phone has consistently taken such good photos. Running the exact same ROM on a Galaxy S3, the pictures almost always came out pretty blurry, regardless of how still I held the phone.
Anyway, I was wondering if anyone has some idea of why this is, and if I could do anything (other than getting an iPhone of course) to again be able to rely on a smartphone camera to at least get pretty fast, good pictures? Thanks!