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Hi guys I post this treat to compare MOTOROLA RAZR HD VS SAMSUNG GALAXY SII.
I own both of them and with the official firmwares i think its better the korean one, here are my reasons.
MOTOROLA RAZR HD
Good battery (mAh 2500)
Nice design
Bad camera quality
Poor camera app, but fast
Screen colors are bad (maybe it is just me but black isn't black, and there are some spot darker)
Poor apps to begin with, there is no radio app, no notes app.
SmartAction is the only good app, but i wish it can do more, like activate this at call or deactivate afther call.
Really suck having a looked phone, but it is also understandable to do that if you root and bric it, ITS YOUR FAULT!
SAMSUNG GALAXY SII
Really light, i always forget where i placed it, and then find out it is in my poket.
Basic design
Good colors, I watched many movies and series with it and when it is a black screen, it looked almost like if it is off or locked.
Good starting apps
Good camera app, with many feature, like macro focussing or text photos etc
Camera is also 8MP but much better than Motorola one.
Even if I lost this phone now i regret to not having bought another Samsung.
Let me know what you think about it
and give me some ideas to fix my RAZR HD not rooted Jelly bean 4.1.1
Chadz88 said:
Hi guys I post this treat to compare MOTOROLA RAZR HD VS SAMSUNG GALAXY SII.
I own both of them and with the official firmwares i think its better the korean one, here are my reasons.
MOTOROLA RAZR HD
Good battery (mAh 2500)
Nice design
Bad camera quality
Poor camera app, but fast
Screen colors are bad (maybe it is just me but black isn't black, and there are some spot darker)
Poor apps to begin with, there is no radio app, no notes app.
SmartAction is the only good app, but i wish it can do more, like activate this at call or deactivate afther call.
Really suck having a looked phone, but it is also understandable to do that if you root and bric it, ITS YOUR FAULT!
SAMSUNG GALAXY SII
Really light, i always forget where i placed it, and then find out it is in my poket.
Basic design
Good colors, I watched many movies and series with it and when it is a black screen, it looked almost like if it is off or locked.
Good starting apps
Good camera app, with many feature, like macro focussing or text photos etc
Camera is also 8MP but much better than Motorola one.
Even if I lost this phone now i regret to not having bought another Samsung.
Let me know what you think about it
and give me some ideas to fix my RAZR HD not rooted Jelly bean 4.1.1
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I can't understand why people complain about camera. The camera of Razr HD is really good, provided you know how to use it. If you are looking for professional quality i would suggest you to buy a DSLR rather than expecting it from a phone. I have Samsung Galaxy S3 and when i see shots from both phones on my large screen, trust me, no one could tell the difference which is taken with which phone.
The AMOLED display of Razr HD is best.. two advantages of this are that it consume less battery and secondly the black is really black. Try adjusting screen brightness to see if it helps. If you are not so found of this display switch to IPS display phones like LG optimus G, but then you will complain about battery life. Trust me you can never get everything in one package.
You can download any app (Radio, Notes) you want from Play store .. Why complain that you don't have it pre loaded? Samsung does provide a few good apps but i have seen the crap they load along with some goodies.
So my whole point of this post was that you can't really compare two phones. Every phone has its pro's and con's. No phone is perfect. I can tell you 10 bad things about Galaxy S3.. but its irrelevent.
Solution : Try installing CM10 and see if it live upto your expectations.
Thank for your opinion, I'm gonna unlock it first then root
Aftherward I will install one custom rom
CM 10 isn't ready for this phone yet, and i dont think the official developer of it will improve
so I might try something else maybe try to cook by my own, and there is ubuntu coming
Razr hd is excelent choise, I turned off 4G and bloatware and batt last enought, and I say enought! camera is not like the one in xperia s but works "good" great screen and nfc, great greate quality in materials. multicolor notification led by the way.
RAZR HD
RAZR HD is the way to go with out a doubt.
I have owned Galaxy S, Galaxy S II and I can tell you - RAZR HD makes me truly happy! Even with LTE on, It lasts me on average 28-38 hours depending on how much music I listen to.
The screen is awesome, camera is nice as well. Again, this is not a DSLR - this is a mobile phone. Even on 4.0.4, it is nicely optimized. One of the best feature I found on the RAZR (yes I owned XT910 as well) is Smart Actions. You can set requirements for a profile to be launched (as well as actions to be executed - turn on/off wifi, send a text message and etc.).
Final thoughts, RAZR HD over any phone atm IMHO.
well, you guys sound really satisfied, i'm getting souspicious that i might purchased a bugged phone, I must check someone else razr hd before confirmation
I have an s3 but am considering a RAZR HD. I use the camera quite a bit and was wondering if anyone has had both phones and can give me an honest comparison.
Every review says if it wasn't for the camera it would be a better phone. Looking for some advice cause I love the build quality and feel.
Thanks.
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If you have better lighting than the camera takes pretty decent pictured (better than my iPhone 4s), but when your in a low lightening area or dark rooms the camera is ****. Also no image stabilization it sucks beside that its a pretty decent camera as long as you can take pictures without shaking your hands lol. But rest of the phone quality wise is 200 times better than gs3
Well, every phone has its pro's and cons. I would first of all suggest you get the razr hd maxx, since you cant swap batteries. I assume you take lots of pictures, and that takes battery life.
As a new owner of a razr maxx HD, I can't answer your question directly. However I think the razr hd/maxx is superior to the gs3. My friends have had many more issues with screen cracking on the gs3 than the razr hd/maxx. The radio is much better in motorola devices compared to samsung. That is definitely a plus for uploading photos, txting, and making calls.
The camera on my samsung galaxy nexus definitely took pictures a lot faster. It was running 4.2.2 so I'm sure once the update comes out, maybe the camera speed will improve. Hope this influences your decision.
I have an s3 but am considering a RAZR HD. I use the camera quite a bit and was wondering if anyone has had both phones and can give me an honest comparison.
Every review says if it wasn't for the camera it would be a better phone. Looking for some advice cause I love the build quality and feel.
Thanks.
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Honestly, there is no comparison.
The HD is not in the same league as the S3, however with root & bootloader unlock (not that I recommend), I have installed and tested about 6 cameras apps:
4 from the Google store & 2 customized apk files. I plan to keep the nexus 4 4.2 version apk file & the Snap camera from Google play.
The 2 are producing better quality pictures than the stock camera (if you need fast camera install the burst camera from Google play).
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Honestly, there is no comparison.
The HD is not in the same league as the S3,....
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What do you mean exactly?
mpetruzz said:
I have an s3 but am considering a RAZR HD. I use the camera quite a bit and was wondering if anyone has had both phones and can give me an honest comparison.
Every review says if it wasn't for the camera it would be a better phone. Looking for some advice cause I love the build quality and feel.
Thanks.
sent from my blue police box flying through time!!!
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I came from the S2. I tested out the S3 quite a bit in the store as my wife was considering it. The camera on the S3 was really impressive with the number of shots it could take though I didn't take one home and see it in all conditions.
The only fair comparision I can make, though, is between the S2 and the RAZR HD. I would advise that if the camera quality is important, that the RAZR HD is NOT the phone for you. Samsung is, and has been, way ahead of what the RAZR is packing as far as photos go. The S3 is supposed to be much better than the S2 in respect of features and shutter speed at the very least, so I'd advise sticking with the Samsung and that's advice based on their S2 camera which is getting dated now. As much as people want to love their phone and think its the best, the camera is very much the weakest link on my phone. Its the only thing I miss about my S2.
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jfriend33 said:
What do you mean exactly?
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I think he means that the Samsung's S3's camera blows the RAZR HD's camera out of the water.
Is everybody using the Jelly Bean update? I know a lot of people on this forum have probably downgraded to ICS for Root reasons, but I have found the Jelly Bean stock camera is fantastic.
To prove my point, I had a Galaxy Note 2 (same or nearly the same camera as the S3) and I was flipping back and forth between the Razr HD and the Note 2. Finally after a lot of personal camera tests I sold the Note 2 because I think the Razr HD has a better camera.
Again, I am talking about ONLY the stock camera AFTER the Jellly Bean Update. Before this, on ICS the camera was a disaster. Now there are some other features of ICS I wish I had. For instance my speaker is much lower after the update and I can't root the phone any longer. I was rooted, and used Voodoo but my OTA update failed so I had to flash manually.
Anyway, if the camera is a deciding factor (and it was for me) get the Razr HD. All other things being relatively close, I think it is the better phone.
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Is everybody using the Jelly Bean update? I know a lot of people on this forum have probably downgraded to ICS for Root reasons, but I have found the Jelly Bean stock camera is fantastic.
To prove my point, I had a Galaxy Note 2 (same or nearly the same camera as the S3) and I was flipping back and forth between the Razr HD and the Note 2. Finally after a lot of personal camera tests I sold the Note 2 because I think the Razr HD has a better camera.
Again, I am talking about ONLY the stock camera AFTER the Jellly Bean Update. Before this, on ICS the camera was a disaster. Now there are some other features of ICS I wish I had. For instance my speaker is much lower after the update and I can't root the phone any longer. I was rooted, and used Voodoo but my OTA update failed so I had to flash manually.
Anyway, if the camera is a deciding factor (and it was for me) get the Razr HD. All other things being relatively close, I think it is the better phone.
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After using the droid razr maxx hd for a few more days, my impressions of the camera are good. It takes pictures as quickly as the S3. Maybe we can post some pictures, one with natural light, one with artificial light, from both models and compare? I'm sure there are already some photos out there in reviews that let you compare.
Sounds like the update improved the camera a lot.
I'm wondering if my handset has a bad camera after reading other people's satisfaction with theirs.
PantsDownJedi said:
I'm wondering if my handset has a bad camera after reading other people's satisfaction with theirs.
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probaby depends on what you are taking pictures of. I should clarify, the camera still struggles with graininess in low light. I have yet to find a cell phone camera that does not, however. I was just pointing out that the biggest faults from the ICS update like the slow shutter and inability to focus at close range have been fixed in Jelly Bean
I think in daylight, or good indoor light, the camera is about as good as anything I've tried with the possible exception of the Pureview 808.
Just don't expect miracles.
For reference, over the last 24 months I have owned:
Iphone 4, Dell Streak 5 and 7, Galaxy Captivate, Galaxy S2, Galaxy Captivate Glide, Galaxy Note 1, and 2, HTC Amaze, LG Optimus 4x, Xperia Play, ION, X10 and X10 Mini, Pantech Flex, Nokia 808 Pureview, Motorola Backflip, Razr and now Razr HD
itzik_man said:
Honestly, there is no comparison.
The HD is not in the same league as the S3, however with root & bootloader unlock (not that I recommend), I have installed and tested about 6 cameras apps:
4 from the Google store & 2 customized apk files. I plan to keep the nexus 4 4.2 version apk file & the Snap camera from Google play.
The 2 are producing better quality pictures than the stock camera (if you need fast camera install the burst camera from Google play).
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Can you explain this? Are you saying that you put a nexus apk on your razr hd? Is the Snap camera the best that you've found for the HD?
notyourstar said:
Can you explain this? Are you saying that you put a nexus apk on your razr hd? Is the Snap camera the best that you've found for the HD?
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I've been searching for the 4.2.2 apk and haven't been able to find it. Can someone point me in the right direction?? Thanks!
jfriend33 said:
After using the droid razr maxx hd for a few more days, my impressions of the camera are good. It takes pictures as quickly as the S3. Maybe we can post some pictures, one with natural light, one with artificial light, from both models and compare? I'm sure there are already some photos out there in reviews that let you compare.
Sounds like the update improved the camera a lot.
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Here is a picture I took today at a pottery studio. Its natural light on auto mode. Notice the great colors and how the camera handles the light. You can see sun rays as well as shadows all in the same frame.
Once again this is full stock 4.1.2 ROM and camera app.
I am getting the itch for a new phone, and i am stuck between 3 phones, and i need some real world input.
I currently have the S3, rooted, unlocked on CM 10.1. I am unhappy with a few things, such as poor signal strength, data drops (on both stock touchwiz and CM) and poor battery life....
The main things i look for when i get a phone are signal strength....being able to get as close to pure android as possible (whether stock or running custom), run wireless tether (for free) and the ability to play decent games (nothing crazy) and run things without the phone locking up.... also, camera is nice as i have two young kids, and i want to take "good" shots, not expecting DSLR quality, and "good" video.....
So i thought to myself, i like the feel of the Razr M, it's almost the perfect size for me. But i hear the signal is terrible for a motorola, and the camera is not the best. but now the bootloader is unlocked so that opens the door to endless things. but it only has 1gb of ram, and the graphics processor is not the best
Then i looked at the Razr HD and thought, nice battery life! decent specs (although not far off from the M i am seeing?) camera is somewhat improved and unlockable bootloader..... bigger screen than the M....
Not the Droid DNA is catching my eye. Spec wise, look, feel, possible unlockable bootloader depending on SW version. Quad core seems fancy... etc etc.
So i am kind of torn. I have had at least 10 android phones in the past 3 years or so ( i worked for vzw for 6 years) and i always thought my OG, Droid X, Droid X2 have had excellent signal. That is really the most important....
So i guess my question is, if you were in my shoes, would you still pick the HD? or would you go a different route? any and all input is welcome, and i thank you in advance for your time. oh and camera reviews for the HD seem mixed on both the video and camera. my wife has the original MAXX, is it all the same?
Chad
Get the HD. Everything you listed that you want, the HD has.
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I'd imagine that, among those choices, the vote on a forum devoted to the Razr HD and the Razr Maxx HD would be pretty heavy for the Razr HD and the Razr Maxx HD, right? I've got a Maxx HD, rooted and unlocked bootloader, running mhous33's debloated stock ROM. Everything works, all the Verizon stuff is gone, the phone is smooth and fast. It's not perfect, though. I have continued problems getting and keeping a GPS lock. One day it works fine -- the next it's sure I'm 100 miles away. But the camera works, video camera works, HDR camera mode works, Bluetooth works, signal strength is fine.
Overall, though, for me, the combination of a good-sized screen, a relatively light weight and small size (given the screen size) plus a solid build quality and AMAZING battery life make the Maxx HD my DD for the foreseeable future.
lesdense said:
I'd imagine that, among those choices, the vote on a forum devoted to the Razr HD and the Razr Maxx HD would be pretty heavy for the Razr HD and the Razr Maxx HD, right? I've got a Maxx HD, rooted and unlocked bootloader, running mhous33's debloated stock ROM. Everything works, all the Verizon stuff is gone, the phone is smooth and fast. It's not perfect, though. I have continued problems getting and keeping a GPS lock. One day it works fine -- the next it's sure I'm 100 miles away. But the camera works, video camera works, HDR camera mode works, Bluetooth works, signal strength is fine.
Overall, though, for me, the combination of a good-sized screen, a relatively light weight and small size (given the screen size) plus a solid build quality and AMAZING battery life make the Maxx HD my DD for the foreseeable future.
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I don't have the MAXX and I'm not rooted or unlocked BL YET, but agreed with everything else it's my favorite out of the other obvious choices for phones.
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mooseknuckles said:
I am getting the itch for a new phone, and i am stuck between 3 phones, and i need some real world input.
I currently have the S3, rooted, unlocked on CM 10.1. I am unhappy with a few things, such as poor signal strength, data drops (on both stock touchwiz and CM) and poor battery life....
The main things i look for when i get a phone are signal strength....being able to get as close to pure android as possible (whether stock or running custom), run wireless tether (for free) and the ability to play decent games (nothing crazy) and run things without the phone locking up.... also, camera is nice as i have two young kids, and i want to take "good" shots, not expecting DSLR quality, and "good" video.....
So i thought to myself, i like the feel of the Razr M, it's almost the perfect size for me. But i hear the signal is terrible for a motorola, and the camera is not the best. but now the bootloader is unlocked so that opens the door to endless things. but it only has 1gb of ram, and the graphics processor is not the best
Then i looked at the Razr HD and thought, nice battery life! decent specs (although not far off from the M i am seeing?) camera is somewhat improved and unlockable bootloader..... bigger screen than the M....
Not the Droid DNA is catching my eye. Spec wise, look, feel, possible unlockable bootloader depending on SW version. Quad core seems fancy... etc etc.
So i am kind of torn. I have had at least 10 android phones in the past 3 years or so ( i worked for vzw for 6 years) and i always thought my OG, Droid X, Droid X2 have had excellent signal. That is really the most important....
So i guess my question is, if you were in my shoes, would you still pick the HD? or would you go a different route? any and all input is welcome, and i thank you in advance for your time. oh and camera reviews for the HD seem mixed on both the video and camera. my wife has the original MAXX, is it all the same?
Chad
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I own an razr hd, i chose this phone after losing my galaxy s2.
I have managed to unlock bootloader and root my device I run my own custom firmware (deleted some useless stuff and enhanced some others)
I think this phone has good battery-life, the camera is decent, wifi sometimes is buggy and gps work fine,
the thing I'm a bit disappointed is the screen pixels seems a bit lowquality, but looking at all the specs this phone is gonna last at least some years
before I will turn to something new
I was in the same boat. I still have my S3 but just use it for a WiFi Toy about all it's good for. The signal just was terrible on it in weak areas.
I got my HD on ebay and love it so far. It outdoes the S3 in many ways.
The only thing I miss on the S3 is the camera, but the MAXX HD does good enough.
Would be a very smart move.
kendive said:
I was in the same boat. I still have my S3 but just use it for a WiFi Toy about all it's good for. The signal just was terrible on it in weak areas.
I got my HD on ebay and love it so far. It outdoes the S3 in many ways.
The only thing I miss on the S3 is the camera, but the MAXX HD does good enough.
Would be a very smart move.
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Yes the camera does suck on the Razr HD. I came from a GNex and even though that phone only has a 5MP camera, it was WAAYYY better than the HD. The HD seems to do good video though. Signal strength is also noticeably better in weak areas. I could never get 4G outside my house on my GNex. Now I get 4G INSIDE my house.
Camera is really really really bad...
worst focussing i ever had on a cellphone, quality not that good, contrast and colors seem worn out.
The rest of the Phone is awesome. Good Performance, really good signal, resistant, good batterylife. Perfect Phone
But if you would like to take snapshots of your children and your family, as a good memory, dont use this Phone. Even in normal daylight my phone got problems making a good, focussed picture, with nice and natural colours.
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Camera is really really really bad...
worst focussing i ever had on a cellphone, quality not that good, contrast and colors seem worn out.
The rest of the Phone is awesome. Good Performance, really good signal, resistant, good batterylife. Perfect Phone
But if you would like to take snapshots of your children and your family, as a good memory, dont use this Phone. Even in normal daylight my phone got problems making a good, focussed picture, with nice and natural colours.
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I don't get what all the complaining is with the Razr hd /maxx camera. I've had this phone for two months now after a galaxy nexus. Sure you can't blast pictures as fast as the gnex but the HDR mode is great. Plus if you like taking photos, the Maxx is gonna have the battery life to get the job done and then some.
I was so frustrated with needing to carry extra batteries and charging sticks in my pocket and bag, not to mention remembering to charge them all.
Now my phone works worry free and only needs charging every TWO days.
Gaming is also great. The benchmarks on these phones aren't too shabby either.
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More pics. The only thing is though man, you'd be getting a phone that's getting close to a year old. I guess selling it for a gs4 or X phone is always an option later?
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jfriend33 said:
I don't get what all the complaining is with the Razr hd /maxx camera. I've had this phone for two months now after a galaxy nexus. Sure you can't blast pictures as fast as the gnex but the HDR mode is great. Plus if you like taking photos, the Maxx is gonna have the battery life to get the job done and then some.
I was so frustrated with needing to carry extra batteries and charging sticks in my pocket and bag, not to mention remembering to charge them all.
Now my phone works worry free and only needs charging every TWO days.
Gaming is also great. The benchmarks on these phones aren't too shabby either.
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Here are some pictures which i took, showing the usual quality i get. Of course i sometimes have good pics, like the ones you posted.
But the average quality is, imho not that good.
Rest of the Phone is more then awesome, eventhough benchmarks on stock are not good, overall feeling is great.
But maybe waiting for the next Motorola Phone Generation would be better for you.
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Wow your pictures looked really washed out. Try tweaking the exposure, or using HDR mode already I take it?
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I also would like to stress the significant improvement in reception with the change from my galaxy nexus. Motorola is known for a killer radio. I'm getting better reception in the boonies even. This is also great for power management.
On that note the acclaimed galaxy S4 is supposed to have superior power management.
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Since most of us chose the ONE S for the good performance in a smaller form factor, I figured the Moto X would be a natural upgrade from the ONE S (rather than the ONE Mini, which is not much of an upgrade, with its 4.3" screen and 1GB RAM). I was right - the Moto X is great for one-handed operation and is superior in every way except one: the camera.
Even with the negative press about the camera, this is surprising, because you expect technology to march on. What I didn't expect was how much better the HTC camera in the "obsolete" ONE S is versus Motorola's.
This is mostly evident in low-light shooting, such as indoors. The HTC is much better at capturing detail, and usually exposes correctly. The Motorola introduces washed-out colours and grain, even after the so-called "update" that was supposed to fix these issues.
The pluses of the Moto X are many: better reception and call quality, better loudspeaker, LTE, bigger screen with 720p, nicer curved design that sits naturally in your hand, and updated software (though if you flash a ROM the last one doesn't matter).
Not that the ONE S is bad in any of these areas (it's not), but Motorola is known for its radios and call quality, and they continue that tradition.
The ONE S is still a great phone and I was planning on keeping it for another few months at least, but there was a recent price drop for the Moto X. Because I use my phone for emails and browsing first, as a phone second, and as a camera a distant third, this is still an upgrade for me. I am disappointed that Motorola/Google dropped the ball with the camera though.
If you use the camera often, keep the ONE S!
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Since most of us chose the ONE S for the good performance in a smaller form factor, I figured the Moto X would be a natural upgrade from the ONE S (rather than the ONE Mini, which is not much of an upgrade, with its 4.3" screen and 1GB RAM). I was right - the Moto X is great for one-handed operation and is superior in every way except one: the camera.
Even with the negative press about the camera, this is surprising, because you expect technology to march on. What I didn't expect was how much better the HTC camera in the "obsolete" ONE S is versus Motorola's.
This is mostly evident in low-light shooting, such as indoors. The HTC is much better at capturing detail, and usually exposes correctly. The Motorola introduces washed-out colours and grain, even after the so-called "update" that was supposed to fix these issues.
The pluses of the Moto X are many: better reception and call quality, better loudspeaker, LTE, bigger screen with 720p, nicer curved design that sits naturally in your hand, and updated software (though if you flash a ROM the last one doesn't matter).
Not that the ONE S is bad in any of these areas (it's not), but Motorola is known for its radios and call quality, and they continue that tradition.
The ONE S is still a great phone and I was planning on keeping it for another few months at least, but there was a recent price drop for the Moto X. Because I use my phone for emails and browsing first, as a phone second, and as a camera a distant third, this is still an upgrade for me. I am disappointed that Motorola/Google dropped the ball with the camera though.
If you use the camera often, keep the ONE S!
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One S rulez !
If you spend time to read reviews before you buy, you'll know the camera on Moto X isn't that great. Most folks on Earth tend to think HTC camera bad which is very wrong, HTC camera isn't perfect but always give you surprised result.
One S camera is equipped with 8M 1/3.2" BSI, f/2.0, 28mm and most importantly an imagechip. The spec. is still at top-tier after two years from now, don't think Moto X could beat it easy. I want to upgrade my phone but most mid-end phone nowadays their camera is still behind One S but flagship model is just too expensive to me which made me continue to stick with One S, might be one more year til 2015. Very bad.
I'll look for M8 mini and Galaxy S5 mini later.
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If you spend time to read reviews before you buy, you'll know the camera on Moto X isn't that great.
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I did read the reviews, but thought the bar had been raised across the board since 18 months separates the release of the phones. This may be true for some manufacturers, but not others. Plus, a recent software update claimed to improve the camera, but evidently not enough. Hopefully a further update will improve things, but I'm not holding my breath.
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I did read the reviews, but thought the bar had been raised across the board since 18 months separates the release of the phones. This may be true for some manufacturers, but not others. Plus, a recent software update claimed to improve the camera, but evidently not enough. Hopefully a further update will improve things, but I'm not holding my breath.
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The main problem on Moto X is no dedicated ISP(imagechip) and it can't be improved simply though some software updates. The ISP performance inside Qualcomm CPU is always very poor.
I currently have a Samsung Galaxy S7 (Exynos Version) and been thinking of switching to the Blu Vivo X for the 4010+ mah battery, 64gb internal storage, and 4 cameras. Both phone has 4 GB and rams and an Octacore CPU. The Blu Vivo X is currently more than a $100 less than the Samsung Galaxy S7 (Exynos Version).
What's your thought on the Blu Vivo X and would it be worth switching to it from a Samsung Galaxy S7 (Exynos Version), even though the Blu Vivo X uses a 720p screen, and Blu has been known for having adwares in their phones in the past?
specs info:
- Samsung Galaxy S7 (Exynos Version) gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s7-7821.php
- Blu Vivo X gsmarena.com/blu_vivo_x-9072.php
My thoughts (which are only MY thoughts, I'm not pretending to have the absolute truth):
- Blu Vivo X has a mediatek CPU which isn't at the same level as Exynos or Snapdragon CPU, still it will do the job.
- Blu is know for adware but is also known for having malwares installed
- 4010mAh battery, I would be very careful with that number. A high quality manufacturer will announce the capacity of their battery and you can almost be sure that it is true. Now, when you go to less known, less top quality manufacturers, when they say 3000mAh, you test the battery and it's in fact like a 2000mAh. So before making a choice, find concrete tests which tells you how much time you have with a full charge. Don't listen to people on Youtube with no test protocol who say "Yeah, I can last 2 days with it" because you can't know their perception of things, you can't know if they have been paid, you can't know what they do with their phone. If I turn off Wifi, LTE, and keep the screen of on my OnePlus One, I can last 1 week! Now if I use it normally, I last 1 day, 2 days at the most, but real screen on time is like 6 hours. So be careful and don't trust fanboys or people who just throw numbers like this.
About battery capacity, I give you an example I have read some years ago when Xioami released their external battery pack (10.000mAh). When tested, it was almost good but more around 9000mAh. They had compared to unknown brands found on Amazon, and some batteries announced like 10.000mAh, had in fact less than 5000mAh in capacity. So be careful, Blu isn't such a great highly recommended trusty manufacturer, so I would tend to think their numbers are enhanced for the commercial speech, but in real like, will a 4000mAh battery last a lot longer than a 3000mAh from Samsung, I doubt it.
So in the end, what do you think you will do with the Vivo X than you can't do with the Galaxy S7? That's the real question. You want more storage space? The Exynos version of the S7 has a SD card slot. More battery, better buy an external battery pack, it will cost you less.
That's my point of view, I would never trade a flagship from a very well known brand some model from a brand known for cheap phones and who put Mediatek processors in their phones. I highly doubt that the Blu Vivo X will have internal memory that has the same speed as a Galaxy S7, I highly doubt the pictures from the Vivo X would beat the S7, I also highly doubt you will have more "Screen on time" with a Vivo X as Samsung has spent time to optimize their system (you can also debloat it to gain battery life by removing all Samsung crapware). That's only my point of view, but I don't think it's a good idea. You should make your own idea by reading LOT (not just 1 or 2) reviews on the Blu Vivo X, watching videos on Youtube and read between lines, don't trust people that aren't even tech journalists ; )
EDIT: Here are some interesting reviews I've found on Amazon of people not only putting 5 stars and saying "great phone!":
Review 1: "This phone does exactly what the description says. It takes Ok pictures, is thin and comfortable in the hand, and is relatively easy to use. However, the processor speed and user interface, are not up to par with a Snapdragon or Galaxy S. I thought it would be a good idea to upgrade my Galaxy S7 to the VIVO X. I was not impressed. The system response was slower than what I'm used to and the UI just feels "cheap" to me. On a brighter note, the front camera was awesome for using Google Duo to talk to my son while I'm on the road. Its not a bad phone, I just feel like my S7 is a better phone."
Review 2: "I'm pretty conflicted with this phone. I want to adore it, however there are some pretty major setbacks that I'm not sure if I can look past. With that being said, I'd still recommend this for the price.
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Pros:
- The screen is big but you don't get a big phone. I've strayed away from 6" because I'm a little person, but I quite like holding this because it's skinny enough that small hands can hold it and also enjoy a "big boy" screen.
- It's smooth. It's definitely faster and more smooth than my last phone (HTC Desire Eye). Installing apps is lightning fast, scrolling through google is a breeze, and having multiple apps in the background doesn't slow it down.
- Sound quality is quite good. It's bass-y, which I like. It picks up the slightest noise though, which could be great or bad depending on the situation I guess. It goes quite loud as well.
- Plenty of storage. You'll be able to fit thousands of photos, songs, and quite a lot of apps onto this phone.
- Fingerprint scanner is awesome. I've never had a phone that did this, so it's kind of fun.
- Messaging notification drop-down is AMAZING. I LOVE this feature. I was pleasantly surprised when someone texted me and I was able to read/reply from the drop-down, all while staying on whatever page.
- You can do split-screen. I think it depends on the app though. In theory, it's great that you can have two pages up at a time.
- Android nougat is so nice. I had Android 5.0 with my last phone. Upgrading to 7 is definitely what I needed, and hoping for an update to Android 8 in the next year, maybe?
- The actual feel of the phone is high-end. It feels like a top-rated phone, but without the pricetag.
- All of Google's apps come already installed. I personally don't use many of Google's features, so luckily it's easy to remove them and add some extra storage to the phone.
- It came with a screen protector already on, an extra screen protector in the box, and a case as well! It also came with the standard charging accessories and some earbuds.
- Fast startup/reboot. The initial startup is a bit slow and worrisome, but it's just the one time as it gets itself ready for you! After that, turning it on is quick.
Cons:
- The camera. So many problems with it. I'll go into detail at the end of this post. This is the biggest obstacle holding me back from possibly sticking with this. My last phone had a superb camera that was clear, could focus on micro surroundings, adjusted perfectly to light... And this camera fails in all those areas.
- The resolution IS as advertised. No you won't be getting the clearest of words on your screen, but it's passable. It's noticeable if you switch from a better resolution phone like I did though.
- The lack of cases is strange, I must admit. Hopefully some more come out soon.
- No theme, at least not that I could tell. I think all of my past Androids of recent years have had an option for different interface themes. This doesn't seem to have this feature.
- I couldn't access ANY ringtones/notification alerts. I had to download a ringtone app.
- 14GB of my 64GB was already taken up. I can't figure out what's taking up so much space. I've gotten rid of any bloatware (luckily wasn't a lot, so great job, BLU), but 14 is still a lot.
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I'd love to give it 5 stars, but there's just one thing that's so jarring to me, and I don't understand it at all... When you use your camera (back and front), the window on your screen is crisp and beautiful (back is, front is lackluster). But when you go to look at the image, it's blurry. It's like it goes from the supposed 13MP+, down to maybe an 8MP (at best) once the picture is actually taken. I'm pretty miffed at this. I mean, really, the camera specs are a lie.
To go along with the camera, it also has a hard time focusing on things close to it. For example, selfies are a joke. You get that perma-airbrushed look even without the beauty filter on. I have freckles, but you can't see them in the photos. Some different camera apps make the clarity and focusing a bit better, but you'd more than likely have to deal with obnoxious ads unless you want to pay for a different camera app.
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Overall, I'm not exactly happy with it, but I'm not mad either. I really wish the camera was better. I switched from a 2014 phone which excelled in that area, so it's sort of hard to downgrade after spending a couple hundred bucks. I did upgrade in many areas which is nice though. I sort of want to return the item, but I might keep it. Luckily I'm not a huge selfie taker, so I may not care too much about the problem a week from now."
So all in all, I've also read some reviews from tech websites, the Vivo X seems to be a good phone FOR THE PRICE. So if I were you, I wouldn't expect a 250$ phone to have the same quality of components of a 700$ phone. Mediatek processor, Only Gorilla glass 3, LCD screen not Amoled, Camera with only "ok quality". If you extrapolate, that can give you an hint of the quality of the internal memory, of the quality of the RAM used, the quality of the GPS chip (will it fix your position as fast as a S7? Don't know, but I doubt it).
To me, your question is similar as saying "I have a Ford Mustang, is it worth switching to a "add name of any common cheap car" ?" You see what I mean?
No way!!! Why you would do that? It`s more like a downgrade.. If you really want a change, something stock, more storage, more ram, quickly software updates and maybe a better battery backup, you can change the s7 for a OnePlus 5T, or simply you can wait for OnePlus 6 which is launching in june..
cristiandiaconu6 said:
No way!!! Why you would do that? It`s more like a downgrade.. If you really want a change, something stock, more storage, more ram, quickly software updates and maybe a better battery backup, you can change the s7 for a OnePlus 5T, or simply you can wait for OnePlus 6 which is launching in june..
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Yes it's true, these are the best alternative to my point of view too, but the only thing is that it's not on the same budget level (250$ for the Blu Vivo X and 500$ or more for the OnePlus phones). Though, you summed up all I said very well, S7 to Vivo X is a downgrade.