If you had to change phones soon... - Verizon Droid Charge

I liked the Charge, but having non stop issues day after day. Extremely poor call quality when the phone gets below 20%, M$ Exchange email doesnt work, calendar wont sync, data always disconnects, etc.
Made about a dozen calls and finally got a hold of a regional manager that is willing to help me out, or so he says. Told me he would be able to get me an early upgrade price so trying to decide what route to go.
Prior to being an android user, I had the iPhone from the first version and dropped the iPhone 4 back in July for the 4G device. Saved me some money from having to buy a 4G hotspot and a phone, plus iPhone was limited and couldn't handle a few things that I needed. Seems to be better, but its still a 3G phone.
New Nexus looks pretty good, but heard some things not so good about them. Is it better to wait as it seems new phones come out every week, or better to pull the trigger on the Nexus now?

bossku69 said:
I liked the Charge, but having non stop issues day after day. Extremely poor call quality when the phone gets below 20%, M$ Exchange email doesnt work, calendar wont sync, data always disconnects, etc.
Made about a dozen calls and finally got a hold of a regional manager that is willing to help me out, or so he says. Told me he would be able to get me an early upgrade price so trying to decide what route to go.
Prior to being an android user, I had the iPhone from the first version and dropped the iPhone 4 back in July for the 4G device. Saved me some money from having to buy a 4G hotspot and a phone, plus iPhone was limited and couldn't handle a few things that I needed. Seems to be better, but its still a 3G phone.
New Nexus looks pretty good, but heard some things not so good about them. Is it better to wait as it seems new phones come out every week, or better to pull the trigger on the Nexus now?
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TBH if it were me I'd just wait for the next big smartphone of Q1/Q2, they'll be as good or better spec-wise than the Nexus however you'll be missing out on the pure AOSP experience and timely updates... its not that important to me so I'll be doing this, I'm gonna probably pick up the next HTC superphone (a little tired of samsung now though I love their hardware)

I have the Galaxy Nexus right now and its the best phone I've ever had. Sure they're some minor problems with it like with any new device. But nothing at all that makes it unusable or annoying.
I wouldn't wait for phones that come out at CES 2012 because they won't be available until Q2 at least. Plus all the Quad Core phones will all have problems working the kinks out since they'll be brand new. Much like the Thunderbolt, Charge, Revolution, and the (first) Bionic.
So my advice is to go with the Nexus. Better experience, faster updates, best phone I ever came across. Makes the iPhone 4S look puny and not fun at all IMO of course
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If you have to change now, go for the Nexus. If you can wait some months, then wait.
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Best phone for flashers = Galaxy Nexus
Best phone for stock users = Droid Razr
its simple really...

blarrick said:
Best phone for flashers = Galaxy Nexus
Best phone for stock users = Droid Razr
its simple really...
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Why do you say the RAZR is better than the Rezound for stock users out of curiosity? I could have had either as my displacement and went with the Rezound because it appeared to be the better phone overall based on what I read.
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The Nexus is still better for stock users because it's the only one with ICS. The OS is far more intuitive and coherent than Gingerbread, and that's exactly what matters the most for those users.
The only pluses in general for the Razr versus the Nexus are its thinness (and it's not even a huge difference compared to the Nexus, it's much more noticeable compared to the chunktastic Rezound) and less-plasticky/more durable build (kevlar back, splash-proof coating, not made by Samsung).

With what I know from reading -- I'd go for the Nexus. ICS cannot be ignored, and couple that with the amazing AMOLED screens Samsung uses and you have a winner.
I believe ALL the phones have some quirks, you just have to make sure you can live with them.
The Charge was not considered a successful phone, it was the baddest mama jama when I bought mine in early June and though its not perfect, it got a breath of life when GB was released for it. Fixed most of my issues!

anoninja118 said:
TBH if it were me I'd just wait for the next big smartphone of Q1/Q2, they'll be as good or better spec-wise than the Nexus however you'll be missing out on the pure AOSP experience and timely updates... its not that important to me so I'll be doing this, I'm gonna probably pick up the next HTC superphone (a little tired of samsung now though I love their hardware)
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Hes actually right. If youre getting a new phone just wait for the next big phone. We have Tegra 3 coming to smartphones in Q1 and just look at the 12mp camera/quad-core phones running ICS coming just in the first 3 months of this year. Wait it out bro.

Nexus is the best phone out there right now. As for the issues you're having, if you want full Exchange support, get a Windows Phone, otherwise get Touchdown as that is the only way to have reliable Exchange support on Android. Really though, I think you'll find problems with your next phone too just based on the OP.
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I completely disagree with the majority here. The HTC Rezound is by far the superior phone. Its 720p IPS LCD screen is *true* HD, not Pentile, and current OLED tech suffers from color inaccuracy and oversaturation. The subpixel count on the GNex is about equal to most 800x480 phones.
The Rezound's Adreno 220 GPU is also superior. The Gnex's GPU is just the Charge's PowerVR SGX 540 with 50% overclock. A nice comparison here: http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2011...htc-flyer-htc-desire-hd-and-samsung-galaxy-s/
The Rezound's camera is also better, and it has "Beats Audio" (not sure if that's any good though).

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I completely disagree with the majority here. The HTC Rezound is by far the superior phone. Its 720p IPS LCD screen is *true* HD, not Pentile, and current OLED tech suffers from color inaccuracy and oversaturation. The subpixel count on the GNex is about equal to most 800x480 phones.
The Rezound's Adreno 220 GPU is also superior. The Gnex's GPU is just the Charge's PowerVR SGX 540 with 50% overclock. A nice comparison here: http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2011...htc-flyer-htc-desire-hd-and-samsung-galaxy-s/
The Rezound's camera is also better, and it has "Beats Audio" (not sure if that's any good though).
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beats audio is garbage unless you like rap/hip-hop (thankfully the beats 'technology' doesn't kick in unless you plug in those craptastic beats headphones), the Rezound *might* have the Nexus beat in processor and camera but Nexus wins IMO screen-wise, its also unbloated/unskinned, will have first dibs on updates and with the zero lag shutter... meh its a toss-up I think, both are solid phones but I'd kinda lean toward the Nexus
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I completely disagree with the majority here. The HTC Rezound is by far the superior phone. Its 720p IPS LCD screen is *true* HD, not Pentile, and current OLED tech suffers from color inaccuracy and oversaturation. The subpixel count on the GNex is about equal to most 800x480 phones.
The Rezound's Adreno 220 GPU is also superior. The Gnex's GPU is just the Charge's PowerVR SGX 540 with 50% overclock. A nice comparison here: http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2011...htc-flyer-htc-desire-hd-and-samsung-galaxy-s/
The Rezound's camera is also better, and it has "Beats Audio" (not sure if that's any good though).
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This post sounds like a complete HTC fanboy post. Some of those tests with the GPU were barely better than the original SGX540 GPU. It's also closer to a 100% overclock (200MHz in the Charge v. 384MHz in the Nexus), so I would think those tests would turn out vastly different if run with the Nexus GPU at the same resolutions.
Screen is debatable, and if you looked at the Nexus screen, you couldn't tell if it was pentile or not. Outdoor visibility has ALWAYS been the best on the SAMOLED screens though, and power consumption can be better with them as well.
Camera, I'd have to see to believe as I have NEVER heard of HTC using good quality image sensors. Just because it's 8MP compared to the Nexus's 5MP doesn't mean it's better. That's like saying a 16MP point-and-shoot takes better pictures than a 10MP DSLR. It can if the conditions are right, but usually, it won't.
Beats audio is also a complete sham as the audio processor in the Charge is better. You'll likely get worse audio from Beats than you would from the Nexus. Then lets not forget software upgrades and the lack of add-on apps, can you guess which one wins here? And you can probably forget about AOSP on the Rezound anytime soon as it took several months for Layher to get it on the TB, and I don't see anyone having the dedication to do that again.

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This post sounds like a complete HTC fanboy post. Some of those tests with the GPU were barely better than the original SGX540 GPU. It's also closer to a 100% overclock (200MHz in the Charge v. 384MHz in the Nexus), so I would think those tests would turn out vastly different if run with the Nexus GPU at the same resolutions.
Screen is debatable, and if you looked at the Nexus screen, you couldn't tell if it was pentile or not. Outdoor visibility has ALWAYS been the best on the SAMOLED screens though, and power consumption can be better with them as well.
Camera, I'd have to see to believe as I have NEVER heard of HTC using good quality image sensors. Just because it's 8MP compared to the Nexus's 5MP doesn't mean it's better. That's like saying a 16MP point-and-shoot takes better pictures than a 10MP DSLR. It can if the conditions are right, but usually, it won't.
Beats audio is also a complete sham as the audio processor in the Charge is better. You'll likely get worse audio from Beats than you would from the Nexus. Then lets not forget software upgrades and the lack of add-on apps, can you guess which one wins here? And you can probably forget about AOSP on the Rezound anytime soon as it took several months for Layher to get it on the TB, and I don't see anyone having the dedication to do that again.
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Also it took the rezound like 2 months just to receive root so their Dev community is probably pretty bare
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Just checked the Rezound forum. Apparently they already have an ICS ROM thanks to an ICS leak for the "Sensation XL", whatever that is.
As for AMOLED, unfortunately it's not mature enough yet and drains more battery than LCD as well as having inaccurate colors and oversaturation. And with a 720p pentile you won't notice the pixels but I don't think the sharpness would be as good as a true 720p RGB screen (I could be wrong, but I personally wouldn't bother taking the chance).
As for Beats Audio, I kinda figured you wouldn't be able to get hi-fi music quality without a proprietary port.
Also one other thing that (for me) is a real deal-breaker is lack of microSD slot on the GNexus. I have no idea what Google was thinking there.

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Just checked the Rezound forum. Apparently they already have an ICS ROM thanks to an ICS leak for the "Sensation XL", whatever that is.
As for AMOLED, unfortunately it's not mature enough yet and drains more battery than LCD as well as having inaccurate colors and oversaturation. And with a 720p pentile you won't notice the pixels but I don't think the sharpness would be as good as a true 720p RGB screen (I could be wrong, but I personally wouldn't bother taking the chance).
As for Beats Audio, I kinda figured you wouldn't be able to get hi-fi music quality without a proprietary port.
Also one other thing that (for me) is a real deal-breaker is lack of microSD slot on the GNexus. I have no idea what Google was thinking there.
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Hooray for an ICS ROM that is very buggy, I know I'll use that all the time Can't wait to get a Sense'd version with as many useless apps as Verizon and jam into it. Glad to see you ignored the AOSP comment completely as well.
The screen statement is somewhat untrue as well. The issue with battery life comes when you're using bright colors or video. If you use black, you get excellent battery life as black pixels use 0 power for AMOLED screens, how much power does a black pixel use on an LCD panel? Inaccurate colors are one thing, as that depends on several factors, but it can be corrected, as can the over-saturation. Are there issues with the technology? Sure, but I'll take a SAMOLED screen over an LCD panel every day. Oh, and how about contrast ratio comparison between the two? How about comparing the thickness of a full screen assembly (touch sensor, backlight, and display) between AMOLED and tradition LCD? There are reasons that it's being used, despite how bad you think the technology is.
No MicroSD slot, now we're just nit-picking. Is it a bad thing? Kinda. However, how often do people change them? I only ever changed it out to get a faster card. The only thing I miss about having one is that I could just copy over my backed up data easily to the Nexus. Other than that, it's pointless and I don't see anyone having issues with the lack of a microSD card.
Oh, you also forgot to comment about the GPU tests and the camera. Is the Rezound a bad phone? No, but if you want long term support, I don't think you're going to beat the Nexus as it will see several updates in the future, and even if Google stops updating it, the community will keep it going. Plus, any issues you see can be fixed by the community before Google gets around to it, so you can see fixes faster if there are problems. The Rezound? It will probably see an OTA to ICS, then probably two more OTAs for bug fixes, after that, probably not much. Good luck getting AOSP on it, as that will take a long time, if ever; just see the Thunderbolt as an example. Community driven fixes? When's the last time HTC took bug fix advice from the public if it wasn't a security issue?

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Just checked the Rezound forum. Apparently they already have an ICS ROM thanks to an ICS leak for the "Sensation XL", whatever that is.
As for AMOLED, unfortunately it's not mature enough yet and drains more battery than LCD as well as having inaccurate colors and oversaturation. And with a 720p pentile you won't notice the pixels but I don't think the sharpness would be as good as a true 720p RGB screen (I could be wrong, but I personally wouldn't bother taking the chance).
As for Beats Audio, I kinda figured you wouldn't be able to get hi-fi music quality without a proprietary port.
Also one other thing that (for me) is a real deal-breaker is lack of microSD slot on the GNexus. I have no idea what Google was thinking there.
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Haha Rezound. You can keep that fat, whored-out (Beats scam, bloated up, Sense..), cheesy red colored locked-down brick. HTC is really becoming like Motorola by locking down their devices which creates delays and frustration for people like us. It will receive an update sure.. once. Until they release their new Super Amazing Incredible Orgasmic Deluxe 4G.
Also I hate the volume and power buttons on that phone, they are pretty much flush and have no tactile feel (mushy), don't even start on the horrendous battery life of HTC phones.
Sure the GNEX might not be ideal in every way, but neither is the Rezound. Just because you prefer it doesn't mean everyone else does too

I'd take SAMOLED Plus over LCD, but my personal experience with Pentile (browsing at Verizon store) has been pretty negative.
My point with the SD card was for the sake of extra storage. This is one of the most irritating aspects of the iPhone. These days there are 64 GB microSDXC cards out. The 32 GB card price keeps falling.

I'd wait too. I would want something with dev support like the Galaxy Nexus, but at least 8 MP rear-facing camera and hopefully >2 MP front-facing.

Go with the Nexus if you need a phone now....I have it and I love it. There are almost too many developers on that phone, which is a nice change coming from the charge.
The thing that annoys me most about the Rezound is the power button is on the wrong side of the phone. I use either my thumb or pointer finger of my right hand to push the power button. It's pretty awkward doing that on the rezound. Maybe it's just me lol

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Just for Vibrant user's, How many switched and why?

Just curious to know why you gave up on the Vibrant?
I bought the Vibrant on launch day - LOVED IT....
Then.... the GPS problems started... and seemed to get worse over time, to the point where the phone was rebooting itself when I used the GPS for more than just a few minutes (regardless of the app).
I updated to JI6 when it was released by Samsung since it was supposed to fix the issues, or at least make them a little better. HA! I used GPS that night on the way home, had a strong GPS lock... I was about half way home and looked down and it showed me in the middle of a river. What was truely laughable was that it was saying accurate to within 30 feet - and ever better was that the river it showed me in the middle of was over a mile away!
I swapped the Vibrant for a Nexus One, but after having seen the performance of the MT4G and the fact that everything I ever had rooted for before on other phones was right there ready to go stock-out-of-the-box on the MyTouch, I made the leap.
Something else that sold me - the screen. I can actually read the screen in sunlight better than I could the Nexus... Sure, the Vibrant was a little better in that area than the Nexus, but still not as good as this.
Oh yes - the front facing camera was a selling point as well. A lot of my friends (I say that term loosely since I dont like being associated with crApple fans!) have iphones and use video chat a lot via Tango - I just wanted to be part of the crowd without further lining Job's pockets and no way in hell was I going to AT&T.
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Just curious to know why you gave up on the Vibrant?
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Led notifications, ffc, samsung, and one of the main reasons... The horrible plastic feel
Samshitty, need I say more? Hardware not in sync with software does no good at all. Myt4G= Latest operating system, better processor/hardware, ffc, desk clock(best), FM radio, Sense (Love it) pinch to zoom email, best browser, better gaming, Genius button, no lag, less expensive,wifi calling, More ram (768), best battery to date, everything just works and is included. Unlike the predecessors, no need for make-shifts to get the stuff we want. It is more of a complete package then any Android phone to date.
I'm gonna keep using both but the mytouch is the superior phone. For me, the overall function of the mytouch is the reason. There are some things that the vibrant does do better though - 1. The samoled on the vibrant is definitely better (I love the true blacks and contrast ratio on this thing) 2. The speakers are also noticeably better with richer and fuller sound 3. The GPU is also more capable 4. Audio quality for media is better (mytouch and HTC phones in general have too much bass and not enough detail) 5. The camera while lacking flash is more capable 5. The multitouch, responsiveness, and feel of the screen is better 6. And the last thing is the notification bar is the best I've seen on an Android phone (the ability to have those toggle settings, change brightness by swiping, and change music tracks are amazing). Everything else, the mytouch does better. 1) GPS is much better 2) Solid feel while the vibrant felt plastic and creaked 3)FFC 3. Camera flash 4. Froyo 5. Optical trackpad 6. Much better battery life 7. The user experience is buttery smooth with little or no lag on this thing 8. The notification led
Wow sorry for the essay guys, got a little carried away haha.
When you say the plastic creaked, were you handling the white one? Only the white one has all that plastic - the rest have hard rubber - no creaking involved!
JWhipple said:
When you say the plastic creaked, were you handling the white one? Only the white one has all that plastic - the rest have hard rubber - no creaking involved!
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My bad man, I meant the vibrant felt plastic and creaked. I fixed it in my post. I have the black mytouch, feels really good with the rubberized plastic. You're right though, only the white has the plastic (main reason I chose the black over white, the other being a three-toned color setup for white which looks funny IMO).
I jumped ship tonight aswell. Main reason for me is because I love the widgets and the fact that I have a notification light after months of torture.
just picked up the mytouch 4g in plum color last night. will need to use this device for at least a few weeks to gauge whether i want to sell my vibrant or not. since i have two phone lines, as one phone is for my job, i will probably end up keeping both and just sell my hd2.
my opinion as it stands now, towards the vibrant, is that the vibrant can be the best android phone available if and when samsung fixes all the issues on the upcoming froyo 2.2 update. i.e., laggy rfs file system and persistent problems with gps even after the ji6 update.
I used the Vibrant from the first week's release. The Vibrant screen is way overrated. Sure, the blacks looks a thought they've been painted on the screen, but that's really how far I would go with its advantages. Readability on the MT4G is vastly better. And, the thing that made the Vibrant terrible was its color reproduction. White were blueish, and because the white balance was so off, all other colors were just completely off. This phone can show true whites. Another subtlety is the fact that varying brightness levels is oh so much smoother on the mt4g. You can't achieve that yet with SAMOLED, as brightness levels would go up or down in stages. I found it a little distracting.
The rfs file system was a main deal breaker to me. It got really annoying. Why did Samsung have to try and be different? It caused the majority of the lag in the phone in comparison to similar phones with the same specs.
For example, when I ran the Napster and Thumbplay apps on the Vibrant, it would take foreeeeever to load the album art and no other phones except Samsung phones have that problem apparently. On the mt4g, it loads instantaneously.
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I'm gonna keep using both but the mytouch is the superior phone. For me, the overall function of the mytouch is the reason. There are some things that the vibrant does do better though - 1. The samoled on the vibrant is definitely better (I love the true blacks and contrast ratio on this thing) 2. The speakers are also noticeably better with richer and fuller sound 3. The GPU is also more capable 4. Audio quality for media is better (mytouch and HTC phones in general have too much bass and not enough detail) 5. The camera while lacking flash is more capable 5. The multitouch, responsiveness, and feel of the screen is better 6. And the last thing is the notification bar is the best I've seen on an Android phone (the ability to have those toggle settings, change brightness by swiping, and change music tracks are amazing). Everything else, the mytouch does better. 1) GPS is much better 2) Solid feel while the vibrant felt plastic and creaked 3)FFC 3. Camera flash 4. Froyo 5. Optical trackpad 6. Much better battery life 7. The user experience is buttery smooth with little or no lag on this thing 8. The notification led
Wow sorry for the essay guys, got a little carried away haha.
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You may be long winded, but you said EXACTLY the reasons. I lived some things about my Vibrant that the mT4G just can't or doesn't do as well, but I swapped out for the 4G and an very happy I did so.
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I did it for the speed,ummm speed, and ummm speed..basically.
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You may be long winded, but you said EXACTLY the reasons. I lived some things about my Vibrant that the mT4G just can't or doesn't do as well, but I swapped out for the 4G and an very happy I did so.
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#4 reason is open to debate. Some say the GPU on myt4g is better than the Vibrant. I've used the vibrant rooted almost a month and I think myt4g GPU is better. Next G2 and then the Vibrant.
http://androidevolutions.com/2010/1...wervr-sgx540-hummingbird-in-samsung-galaxy-s/
The Hummingbird wins in one area of GPU only. in all other areas G2 wins. Which is slightly inferior to myt4g processor.
No more Sammy for me!
I had the same issues with the Vibrant as just about everyone else who has posted replies:
- unuseable GPS
- no camera Flash
- No notification light
- No FFC
- I hate capacitive buttons
- no trackpad
- no HSPA+
The only thing I liked better about the Vibrant is the screen...it is a beautiful screen that the MT4G can't compete with, but with all the other problems the Vibrant has, the screen is not enough to make me keep it.
I spent more time flashing ROM's on my Vibrant than actually using it...sure, it makes you feel cool for the first week when you are adding new features and trying new ROM's, but it gets very old very quickly when the UI changes, but the crappy hardware is still limited and there is nothing you can do about that except to buy a decent phone...for now, that is the MT4G.
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I used the Vibrant from the first week's release. The Vibrant screen is way overrated. Sure, the blacks looks a thought they've been painted on the screen, but that's really how far I would go with its advantages. Readability on the MT4G is vastly better. And, the thing that made the Vibrant terrible was its color reproduction. White were blueish, and because the white balance was so off, all other colors were just completely off. This phone can show true whites. Another subtlety is the fact that varying brightness levels is oh so much smoother on the mt4g. You can't achieve that yet with SAMOLED, as brightness levels would go up or down in stages. I found it a little distracting.
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The main drawback to the Vibrant's screen, IMO, was the jaggy text. amoled and S-amoled screens use the pentile arrangement of pixels, which gives one less sub-pixel to each individual pixel (2 instead of 3). This makes text look pixelated.
Text looks very sharp and clear on the MT4G. Speed and good GPS are the two main reasons I switched. HTC just knows how to make android phones. Everything works very well on the phone and it flies!
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#4 reason is open to debate. Some say the GPU on myt4g is better than the Vibrant. I've used the vibrant rooted almost a month and I think myt4g GPU is better. Next G2 and then the Vibrant.
http://androidevolutions.com/2010/1...wervr-sgx540-hummingbird-in-samsung-galaxy-s/
The Hummingbird wins in one area of GPU only. in all other areas G2 wins. Which is slightly inferior to myt4g processor.
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You could very well be correct but I kinda wanna see the tests once the Galaxy S phones get Froyo for a fair comparison. It is a known fact that Froyo adds somewhat of a boost to graphics performance seen by older Snapdragon processor phones performing better in graphics benchmarks after updating to Froyo. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that I am right but from using both phones, it seems like the Vibrant is able to handle 720p HD videos and games a little better (the games could be due to devs not coding the games properly for the new Adreno 205). If you guys wanna see a comparison, I say you run the same games and HD videos side by side, and not rely too much on benchmark numbers. What I find interesting is that, the video frames are noticeably smoother on the Vibrant when running the Quadrant benchmark.
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You could very well be correct but I kinda wanna see the tests once the Galaxy S phones get Froyo for a fair comparison. It is a known fact that Froyo adds somewhat of a boost to graphics performance seen by older Snapdragon processor phones performing better in graphics benchmarks after updating to Froyo. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that I am right but from using both phones, it seems like the Vibrant is able to handle 720p HD videos and games a little better (the games could be due to devs not coding the games properly for the new Adreno 205). If you guys wanna see a comparison, I say you run the same games and HD videos side by side, and not rely too much on benchmark numbers. What I find interesting is that, the video frames are noticeably smoother on the Vibrant when running the Quadrant benchmark.
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Froyo does it no good as far as the GPU. It is designed to enhance optimize the CPU. JIT. Which is why even with JIT activated on the leaked froyo (att) it didn't improve in MFLOPS where the Qualcomm processors did. (5) times improvement. AS for games. I have been playing asphalt on the myt4G and it is a better experience then the vibrant. (butter)
The above poster is right when he says that HTC does better with Android then Samsung. All the Samsung Android devices had problems. Most notably, no support. HTC makes better Android devices. Period.
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Froyo does it no good as far as the GPU. It is designed to enhance optimize the CPU. JIT. Which is why even with JIT activated on the leaked froyo (att) it didn't improve in MFLOPS where the Qualcomm processors did. (5) times improvement. AS for games. I have been playing asphalt on the myt4G and it is a better experience then the vibrant. (butter)
The above poster is right when he says that HTC does better with Android then Samsung. All the Samsung Android devices had problems. Most notably, no support. HTC makes better Android devices. Period.
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I know JIT mostly improves CPU performance but phones such as the Nexus One did get a little bit of a GPU jump in graphics benchmarks after getting Froyo. The reason I think is because these graphics benchmarks are not 100% GPU only; a little bit of CPU is involved as well. An example of a CPU affecting graphics is the PS3, the CPU does wonders for it which is evident through amazing graphics in first party games like uncharted 2 because the system is being used more efficiently. Another thing that Froyo adds is better memory management (unlocks hi mem and manages it better) which should also affect these scores a little IMO. I just don't think it's a fair comparison until the Vibrant receives the actual Froyo update, that's all I'm saying. It could be the case that they are even or that the adreno 205 is better, we'll find out once Froyo arrives.
P.S I whole-heartedly agree with you two that HTC makes a lot better android phones, heck phones in general, than Samsung.

Google Nexus Prime specs!

Possible nexus prime specs:
CPU: Texas Instruments OMAP 4460 Cortex A9 (1,2 GHz).
Screen: 1280 x 720 Super AMOLED HD 4,65"
OS: Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich
RAM: 1 GB RAM
Int. Memory: 32 GB
Back Camera: 5 Mpix
Front Camera: 1,3 Mpix
Movie recording in full 1080p
Wireless connectivity: LTE or HSPA (depends on operator)
NFC enabled!
9 mm thin
1750 mAh battery!
Would you mind telling us your source?
i think this is crap.. no way they would go down on camera specs from 8mp in the galaxy s ii and all there competors to 5 mp.. most likely it will have 12 or 16 mp..
This makes the rest of this suspect as well.
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i think this is crap.. no way they would go down on camera specs from 8mp in the galaxy s ii and all there competors to 5 mp.. most likely it will have 12 or 16 mp..
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This is the original source from BGR.com:
http://www.bgr.com/2011/10/06/samsung-galaxy-nexus-full-specs-revealed-verizon-wireless-exclusive/
And your arguments about the camera specs are right, when you just look at the hype about megapixel. But the image sensor is much more important for the quality of a picture. So i would like it to see the nexus prime with a better sensor, and less mp.
If you are interested, you can search for "megapixel vs. image sensor"
http://www.laesieworks.com/digicom/MP.html
If your camera has to be a compact, be sure to get a big sensor (1/1.6" or 1/1.7") and not too much megapixels.
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Processor is 1.5 ghz dual core afaik, and camera is 8MP at back and 2 or 3 MP at front. Internal memory may not be 32gb , it will be 16gb.
Also battery is rumoured to be 1850 MHz.
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pretty fast battery
Well it will depend on the new android ics, how much it sucks battery out.
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lgkahn said:
i think this is crap.. no way they would go down on camera specs from 8mp in the galaxy s ii and all there competors to 5 mp.. most likely it will have 12 or 16 mp..
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Phones only really need 5mp. 8mp will make the picture larger, but that doesn't mean that it will be better.
Then again if you really want an amazing camera that also happens to make calls, then check out the Nokia N8. 12MP and a Carl Zeiss (SP?) on that bad boy...
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Phones only really need 5mp. 8mp will make the picture larger, but that doesn't mean that it will be better.
Then again if you really want an amazing camera that also happens to make calls, then check out the Nokia N8. 12MP and a Carl Zeiss (SP?) on that bad boy...
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Well I have actually used all three that are best in the business- samsung galaxy s 2, n8 and se arc se ARC has the best camera of all three and sg2 has also a better camera then n8 so 12 MP s don't really matter when u don't have optical zoom, the quality matter and arc outstands both sgs2 and n8 !
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A little disappointed with the hardware (processor was rumoured differently, for one) but it's still going to be one hell of a phone.
What i'd like to see:
I'd very much like if they'd stop making bigger screens. I really think 4'' was the sweet spot, nearly 5'' is... well, too big imo. I realize this may be a requirement for 1280 x 720-pixel res but i honestly believe my phone is big enough as it is (i own an SGS). Granted, higher resolution rules but... well, it's a phone, not a tablet.
I'd also like to see an SD card slot. I can't really see why not. Sure you already have 32Gb. More than enough for me as far as space goes, but i usually leave my phone downloading stuff over the night. SO much faster and easier to just take the card out and plugging in the computer in the morning than having all of that transferred over wireless again.
Android also has a few issues with sdcards (try setting an mp3 as your ringtone stored in the sd, removing, putting the card back in and get a call), but removing the slot completely isn't really a solution and it doesn't take that much space.
Aluminum instead of plastics. Or at least solid stuff for a lasting phone. Phones aren't meant to fall but shi* happens and i'd like my 500€ investment a bit better suited to survive. Don't really mind plastics though, they make my phone lighter, but i'd like some solid stuff for a change. At the very least, nothing as thin as the back cover of an SGS2, please. If we're doing plastics, i'm thinking the back cover of the iphone 3GS. Has a great solid feeling.
I don't care much for the camera. Only think i'd ask is decent, solid shots and that the sensor not to take much space in the back. Cameras usually spoil the design with a huge lump in the back. If it's glass could be made not to touch the surface of the table to prevent scratches, would be cool as well.
What i'd like to see is that great responsiveness to touch iphones have that android seems to lack, even on higher end devices. Sure they work great, but now and then android seems to skip a beat or just lag for 0.5 sec before registering touch. Lockscreens are particularly affected by this.
That said i have really high hopes for ICS. REALLY. I don't care much for competition (hey everyone should use whatever they like or suits them best) but android has always been a few steps ahead of iOS as far as complexity goes. This is a good thing, for me at least. I don't mean to offend anyone, but really, every time i need to use iOS i feel kind of retarded. Hand feeding me stuff that'd be obvious already just works against me. Apple didn't do much to add for that (seen loads of people disappointed, me included) so I honestly believe android can push it ahead once and for all.
My needs may be a bit different that the rest of the world, but i'd prefer some core improvements (like responsiveness improved and bug corrections) other than extra semi-useless new features (like voice control). That'd make for a more solid experience, imo. All that said, I'm kind of excited about this, might really be my next phone if it hits enough spots on my book.
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What i'd like to see:
I'd very much like if they'd stop making bigger screens. I really think 4'' was the sweet spot, nearly 5'' is... well, too big imo. I realize this may be a requirement for 1280 x 720-pixel res but i honestly believe my phone is big enough as it is (i own an SGS). Granted, higher resolution rules but... well, it's a phone, not a tablet.
I'd also like to see an SD card slot. I can't really see why not. Sure you already have 32Gb. More than enough for me as far as space goes, but i usually leave my phone downloading stuff over the night. SO much faster and easier to just take the card out and plugging in the computer in the morning than having all of that transferred over wireless again.
Android also has a few issues with sdcards (try setting an mp3 as your ringtone stored in the sd, removing, putting the card back in and get a call), but removing the slot completely isn't really a solution and it doesn't take that much space.
Aluminum instead of plastics. Or at least solid stuff for a lasting phone. Phones aren't meant to fall but shi* happens and i'd like my 500€ investment a bit better suited to survive. Don't really mind plastics though, they make my phone lighter, but i'd like some solid stuff for a change. At the very least, nothing as thin as the back cover of an SGS2, please. If we're doing plastics, i'm thinking the back cover of the iphone 3GS. Has a great solid feeling.
I don't care much for the camera. Only think i'd ask is decent, solid shots and that the sensor not to take much space in the back. Cameras usually spoil the design with a huge lump in the back. If it's glass could be made not to touch the surface of the table to prevent scratches, would be cool as well.
What i'd like to see is that great responsiveness to touch iphones have that android seems to lack, even on higher end devices. Sure they work great, but now and then android seems to skip a beat or just lag for 0.5 sec before registering touch. Lockscreens are particularly affected by this.
That said i have really high hopes for ICS. REALLY. I don't care much for competition (hey everyone should use whatever they like or suits them best) but android has always been a few steps ahead of iOS as far as complexity goes. This is a good thing, for me at least. I don't mean to offend anyone, but really, every time i need to use iOS i feel kind of retarded. Hand feeding me stuff that'd be obvious already just works against me. Apple didn't do much to add for that (seen loads of people disappointed, me included) so I honestly believe android can push it ahead once and for all.
My needs may be a bit different that the rest of the world, but i'd prefer some core improvements (like responsiveness improved and bug corrections) other than extra semi-useless new features (like voice control). That'd make for a more solid experience, imo. All that said, I'm kind of excited about this, might really be my next phone if it hits enough spots on my book.
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Good you pointed out about screen as many people including you have a little bit misunderstanding about bigger screens- a bigger screen doesn't mean a very big phone. they reduce the extra space from edges and boundaries to make screen big( give a nice look at sgs2 and sgs2 HD lte and you'll notice that sgs2 has a big home button which is more of a square whereas sgs2 hd lte has a mere small rectangle home button so they have reduced spaces for sure and also the small buttons will be till convinient to press), now the big fact in case of Samsung galaxy nexus or nexus prime is that it wont have those capacitive, back, menu ,home(mostly hard key) buttons, Those will be replaced by on screen buttons so more space reduced for bigger screen. All other things you pointed out will be made cleared once the ics and new device is itself released but about touch responsiveness - all smartphones these days have nearly same touch sensors which are gr8 but the thing which makes apple devices smoother and more responsive is GPU acceleration, which is very good in apple's ios then in android that's why many people were asking the Guy who got the ics equipped nexus s that ' did you feel gr8 touch responsiveness on your nexus s ?'. I am also looking forward to this event to know that will ics have gpu accelearion or not.
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Nexus Prime correct Specs
CORRECT SPECS:
http://www.gsmarena.com/source_close_to_google_reveals_real_nexus_prime_specs-news-3239.php
"According to our source, the device codenamed Nexus Prime is going to ship with Samsung's own chipset, with a blazingly fast dual-core processor clocked at 1.5GHz. But wait, there's more.
On that chipset will also reside a powerful dual-core GPU from Imagination. We suspect it's going to be the PowerVR SGX543MP2, or in other words, the same GPU found in the iPad 2 (and quite probably on the iPhone 4S as well).
On the back, instead of the 5-megapixel snapper, our source claims, there's an 8-megapixel, full 1080p HD video-shooting camera with some sort of an improved sensor. As for the battery, expect a 2050mAh one (do we hear a whoa?), which should be good for a couple of days use without charging.
The Nexus Prime will also be LTE-enabled, but the most interesting part is that it would probably boast a dual-mode GSM/CDMA radio, just like the Apple iPhone 4S.
All those specifications sound almost too nice to be true, but keeping in mind the advertisement for the Nexus Prime, prompting us that "something BIG is coming", we won't be surprised if all of these purported specs turn out to be real.
What we do know for sure is that the head-turning 4.65-inch, 1280x720 pixels screen is definitely a go. Whatever the truth might be, we'll definitely find out on October 11, which is just a few days from now."

Sprint Galaxy S3 or EVO 4G LTE?

My upgrade isn't until Oct 1st, but I've been doing a lot of research on what phone to get. I have an OG EVO that I've been very happy with, so I'm leaning towards HTC, but the GS3 is also very impressive. Even after playing with both phones for quite awhile in the store and reading a lot of comparisons and threads online, I still can't decide. My impressions so far:
HTC EVO 4G LTE
Likes:
More accurate colors - See this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijBzWmYnZGI, starting at 6:00
Kickstand - I love the kickstand. I use it constantly on my OG EVO.
Sense UI - I'm used to it and like how it looks and feels
Physical camera button - No explanation required here.
Dislikes:
Poor multi-tasking - overly aggressive task killer
Mitigating Factor - Fixed in most ROMs​
No Menu button - I don't like the three dots black bar on non-ICS compliant apps
Mitigating Factor - Can remap task list button to menu​
1GB RAM - less impressive that the GS3's 2GB
Mitigating Factor - May not matter any time soon? Even Nexus 7 only has 1GB.​
Low fps video recording
Mitigating Factor - I rarely record videos with my phone.​
Non-replaceable battery
Mitigating Factor - Much better battery life than OG EVO, which I never used a 2nd battery anyways. I plug in everywhere.​
Samsung Galaxy S3
Likes:
Good multi-tasking - I like the task manager design and it's not aggressive when it comes to killing tasks.
2GB RAM - Possibly more future proof?
30 fps video recording - Smoother videos.
Replaceable battery - Self explanatory. You run out of battery, you pop in a new one.
Dislikes:
Oversaturated colors - See video from above.
Mitigating Factor - None. The intentional version of GS3 has a display mode switch with a Natural Mode, but that's not present in the US version for some reason.​
Low max brightness
Mitigating Factor - None. Could be a problem in bright daylight.​
No kickstand - This is a bummer, because it's a feature I use daily on my OG EVO.
Mitigating Factor - There are cases with built-in kickstands, but not sure if that'd make the phone too thick.​
TouchWiz UI - I don't like how it looks.
Mitigating Factor - Can replace it with Apex Launcher, which I do like.​
Suspect build quality history - The trend with Samsung's build quality hasn't been good.
Mitigating Factor - Anecdotal reports seem to indicate that the build quality is much improved in the GS3. But it hasn't been out long enough to establish any kind of trend lines.​
Anyways, thoughts and comments to help me decide?
EDIT: Also, please vote in the poll!
I'm personally proud to be an HTC fanboy. Which surprises me to no end that I would prefer sgs3. I've had the pleasure of using the both, and the sgs3 wins hands down in my honest opinion. Holding the sgs3 in your hand is like a firm welcoming handshake lol. Evo 4g lte is a good phone too, my biggest dislike is the whole battery thing. I personally stock up on at least two OEM battery's and one extended each time I buy a phone, because I like to not have to charge my phone multiple times per day.
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EVO LTE
I am a huge fan of the EVO LTE, the only downside is that until LTE is rolled out in my area, the 3g is so slow. Overall, this phone is a huge upgrade from the OG EVO (which I loved). Photos are very clear, the menu button is no big deal when you can flash the menu remap, audio is nice a crisp on headphones.
The Galaxy S3 is the best
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S3 for me better than evo 4g
Your choice
I personally like the S3 better, but just like anything in life its personal preference. Also the devs working on the S3 in this form are great people putting out some amazing products
PasqualeITA said:
The Galaxy S3 is the best
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S3 for me better than evo 4g
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I personally like the S3 better, but just like anything in life its personal preference. Also the devs working on the S3 in this form are great people putting out some amazing products
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Are there any specific factors that pushed you guys towards the S3? Thanks.
Samsung Galaxy III all the way.
tadeas482 said:
Samsung Galaxy III all the way.
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Would like to hear your reasons for choosing the SG3 over the EVO. Thanks
htc has a track record of abandoning "flagship" devices after a very short amount of time. Plus the S3 is a better phone all around.
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Would like to hear your reasons for choosing the SG3 over the EVO. Thanks
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1. It feels more smooth...the interface...it is noticebly faster
2. I prefer Samsung hardware (Exynos, Mali) over that ****ty Tegra
3. It has better GPU
4. It has better camera
5. CPUs are about the same but I actually prefer Samsung's Exynos proccessor
6. 50 Gb free on Dropbox against 25 Gb free
7. Better display(Super Amoled HD)
tadeas482 said:
1. It feels more smooth...the interface...it is noticebly faster
2. I prefer Samsung hardware (Exynos, Mali) over that ****ty Tegra
3. It has better GPU
4. It has better camera
5. CPUs are about the same but I actually prefer Samsung's Exynos proccessor
6. 50 Gb free on Dropbox against 25 Gb free
7. Better display(Super Amoled HD)
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I'm comparing the US (Sprint) versions, so they both have the same Snapdragon S4 SoC I do notice the smoothness of the SG3 though. But I wonder if Jelly Bean will equalize things? I took some pictures with both in the store, and the image quality appear comparable. Why do you say that the SG3 has a better camera?
As for the screen, I stated my preference for the more natural colors on the SLCD2 vs the over-saturated colors on the SAMOLED. Just my person preference really
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I'm comparing the US (Sprint) versions, so they both have the same Snapdragon S4 SoC I do notice the smoothness of the SG3 though. But I wonder if Jelly Bean will equalize things? I took some pictures with both in the store, and the image quality appear comparable. Why do you say that the SG3 has a better camera?
As for the screen, I stated my preference for the more natural colors on the SLCD2 vs the over-saturated colors on the SAMOLED. Just my person preference really
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With that camera...I saw sample shots and it seemed to me that S III has a better camera.
morfinx said:
I'm comparing the US (Sprint) versions...
As for the screen, I stated my preference for the more natural colors on the SLCD2 vs the over-saturated colors on the SAMOLED. Just my person preference really
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My contract is up now, and sadly my Evo 3D is starting to feel the wear and tear of it (drops, dings, trim coming off).
I've pretty much always have had HTC devices, but the S III has really peaked my interest!
Only thing I'm worried about in choosing, is the screen brightness/colors.
I was in the store today and felt like the HTC screen was crisper and brighter. The brightness on both was turned all the way up, and I'm concerned this is not something a ROM or app could increase (unlike volume and other things). Am I wrong?
Also, someone mentioned HTC's early exit from their flagship phones, and I didn't think about that... but they're right, they do abandoned their phones quicker it seems (of course, I've never had anything BUT HTC phones, so maybe it's par for the course and I'm just mad.)
Only other issue I could foresee is the physical camera button. I do use mine a lot on the 3D, and always liked it, but I wonder if I would miss it.
Again, the screen brightness/color is my biggest concern.
Any thoughts on the two?
Great thread btw!
vestaviajag said:
Only thing I'm worried about in choosing, is the screen brightness/colors.
I was in the store today and felt like the HTC screen was crisper and brighter. The brightness on both was turned all the way up, and I'm concerned this is not something a ROM or app could increase (unlike volume and other things). Am I wrong?
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That's my biggest concern. And no it's not something that can be changed in software, at least not the max brightness. But I think some people like the over-saturated colors because it tends to make pictures "pop". But it just looks really unnatural to me. Did you watch the review video I posted in the first thread? it shows you what I'm talking about (also they do an outside usability test).
Also, someone mentioned HTC's early exit from their flagship phones, and I didn't think about that... but they're right, they do abandoned their phones quicker it seems (of course, I've never had anything BUT HTC phones, so maybe it's par for the course and I'm just mad.)
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I've heard a lot of complaints about Samsung abandoning support on their phones or taking forever on releasing updates. So I don't think Samsung is any better in this area. Maybe they area bout the same?
LTEVO for me.
I dislike the way samsung bent over for apple when building the device, the pentile screen, and touchwiz UI (looks like crayola designed it). The SIII had great marketing & release on all of the major carriers.
I love the EVO's camera/camera app, HTC's build quality (Siii feels like a childs toy in my hands) & our developers. From your list in the OP, its pretty clear you prefer to LTEVO. Just make the jump.
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htc has a track record of abandoning "flagship" devices after a very short amount of time. Plus the S3 is a better phone all around.
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Hmm, if I remember correctly Samsung has the same problem + they take forever to push out updates.
OP: The processor is the same in both of them. The ram, as you said, is unneeded and probably won't be for a while. The internals are pretty much the same, so this comes down to the appereance of the device and the Evo LTE wins in the beautification department.
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I think the RAM alone is worth it, they're not too different than each other.
But in terms of futureproofing and probably development, the SGS3 is the way to go, especially if not the Verizon variant.
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I think the RAM alone is worth it, they're not too different than each other.
But in terms of futureproofing and probably development, the SGS3 is the way to go, especially if not the Verizon variant.
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By the time we get around to using that ram the processor will be out dated. OP: You could probably sweet talk yourself into an early upgrade.
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One S vs SIII

'sup folks.
This thread is dedicated to my lovely wife who just couldn't make up her mind between One S ("kinda looks nice"), Galaxy SIII ("oh nice screen"), and iPhone5 ("when is it coming out? my 3GS feels old"). And between all 3 of them, "can i unlock them?" (in Canada, phones are locked to their ISP, so if I buy it from, say, Rogers, I can't just pop another SIM card from, say, Bell.)
So what do u guys think?
Personally, I'm an Android guy through and through. Can't fix it? Find a ROM to restore it. Boot another ROM. Root it on day one. So iPhone is out of the question. But I tend to like the look of One S better than SIII. and i had good experience with HTC phones. and SIII costs $100 more.
But she's been using iPhone3GS, love the simplicity, has no idea what 'rooting' is and why its necessary no matter how many times I explained that it's necessary for TiBackup to work... But she plays around with my Nexus7 and loves to stream Korean drama and check Facebook with it. And last time we went to Costco she saw the SIII on display and goes "oh wow, that's a nice screen. does it work like ur Nexus? I kinda want it." So mainly for her, OneS is the cheaper phone, but SIII's screen looks amazing, and she'll only be using her phone for;
a. take photos
b. facebook
c. browse the latest grocery flyers and baby product review
d. stream korean dramas
e. whatsapp
What do you think she should pick up? Or she should just wait for the next iPhone in a month or two?
Any input?
I think your wife would be better of with the One S. she doesn't really sound like an advanced user that would really care much about the spec difference. the One S is $100 cheaper and can do the things she wants to do just fine.
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I think your wife would be better of with the One S. she doesn't really sound like an advanced user that would really care much about the spec difference. the One S is $100 cheaper and can do the things she wants to do just fine.
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thanks. that's what i think too.
say, what do u think between OneS's screen vs my RAZR? just for easier comparison for her to see, rather than going down to the local mall and play with one under the watchful eyes of eager salesmen....
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/6
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thanks. that's what i think too.
say, what do u think between OneS's screen vs my RAZR? just for easier comparison for her to see, rather than going down to the local mall and play with one under the watchful eyes of eager salesmen....
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the RAZR and the HOS have the same screen, Pentile AMOLED 960x540. But i have seen many people state that the RAZR can have a yellow tint while the colors are more balanced on the HOS
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nice. thanks!
so for my wife's sake, i can safely say "its like my RAZR, but the color is abit better".
I'd say 1S for your wife. Main reasons would be the superior camera and slim, sleek form factor. Honestly as much as I love my 1S I want to trade and get an S3, my hands are just too big for this thing!:screwy: but I think this is the best android phone for a woman hands down, it's a sexy device that's for sure.
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1S the best for sure...
To be hones I have not realy used the S3 myself... I have had it in my hands and just new it is way to big... I had the One X to start of with but then changed it for a 1S mainly because of the size... Why would I need a "mobile PHONE" with a quadcore anyway...?!
i just traded my tmobile GS3 for a htc one s plus cash. the GS3 camera sucks at night. i can post photos in a few. my buddy has the evo 4g lte which should be the same camera as the one s. u will see a big difference in quality. also the GS3 was pretty big. i thought it would be cool but i didnt like it cause it was hard to use with just one hand. unless u got some big hands u might like it. plus the one s just feels better in the hand and it feels lighter. oh and HTC Sense 4.0 over Touchwiz anyday lol.
1st Pic: GS3
2nd Pic: Evo 4G LTE
3rd Pic: GS3
4th Pic: Evo 4G LTE
Comprehensive breakdown because I feel like doing one to refresh the mind.
CPU/GPU: Known quantity. One S isn't as fast as the GS3 here (international to international) but the reduced resolution of the One S hides the GPU deficit and the CPUs are basically equal. The US GS3 is same for CPU, slightly slower on GPU because they use the same chipset.
Display: One S is MUCH better in terms of calibration. The white point is accurate and gamma stays constant. Brightness is essentially only limited by hard protection, but you should never need to turn it up to that point. Overall, the One S has the better colors, GS3 has the better pixel density. Pick your poison.
Camera: Stock to stock, GS3 might win because the One S has pretty heavy compression on both video and photos. Once you get an HQ camera mod though, even the very best that the GS3 can produce is not as sharp as the One S. The One S doesn't use flash for focusing though, so that's something the GS3 wins on for low light flash photos.
Software: Sense is nice for people who know it, and looks nice too. Touchwiz is more functional but doesn't look as good. Once you get rid of Sense's 3D effects it runs much better on the home screen. Elsewhere is a matter of ROM optimization, and is basically close enough to not be worth discussing
Battery: The One S CAN be much better for battery life than the GS3, but requires much more management to do so, because even small battery drainers can lead to big loss of battery because the One S has a much smaller battery capacity compared to the GS3. GS3 is generally less efficient because of the very blue display, and the fact that it's a HUGE display. Exynos might draw more power too.
Design: Subjective. If you like metal, I guess the One S wins.
Decisive winners: If you care about expandable storage and removable battery enough to swing your decision, GS3 will probably be the one you want.
I agree with most of the above apart from:
CPU/GPU - The CPU in the one S is the better one overall as the performance per core is quite a bit better than the exynos quad in the GS 3 and at this stage currently with android and apps, it is far more important than having an additional 2 cores. Not only is it better for performance, but it is also better for power efficiency and the amount of heat given out
The GPU in the int. GS 3 is far better. Although as you said there isn't much difference in real world use especially as the S has the inferior res. so games etc. won't be as stressful.
Also the One S does beat the GS 3 in quite a few benchmark tests, the GS 3 only really beats it in tests that use/are dependant on the GPU i.e. quadrant (also quadrant gives quad core a better score just due to it having 2 extra cores)
In real world usage though, there isn't a huge amount of difference, I personally found the one S to be more snappy/instant feel and the GS 3 more smoother overall (there should be very little to virtually no difference when JB comes to both phones officially)
Camera - GS 3 100 times over the one S for 1080P video recording quality (however, the one s 100 times over the GS 3 for stereo audio recording ), however, the camera for photos is more or less equal, some shots look better on the GS 3 and likewise for the S, however, the camera UI and features are far better on the S
Battery - The battery life is better on the S overall (personally I didn't do much tweaking to it, just turned stuff like auto brightness off, wifi max performance off etc.
However, with the GS 3 you can have the option to use spares and an extended battery at some point.......due to it being removable
Whilst the GS 3 does have a bigger battery, it needs it due to the bigger and 720P screen as well as a more power hungry CPU
Imagine how long the S would last with one full charge on a 2100mAh battery!
And yup, exactly, the extra storage of the GS 3 and removable battery are 2 of the main deciding factors IMO.
Honestly think your wife will prefer the one S due to size, sense (you really don't need to faff about with rooting and replacing every app with 3rd party ones, sense apps are great and they also look "pretty" )
very informative, guys! thanks!
i think 1S wins for her due to smaller size and (arguably) better/faster camera. she's quite a petite lady. and i dont think she cares about battery replacement or storage. haha, storage... all the years she owns 3G and 3GS, she downloaded a total of probably 10 apps. 7 she removed on the first day. (i know she kept the Economist, Whatsapp, and BBC News....)
but if she does wants the bigger "nicer" (in her own words) screen, then all bets are off... i'll talk to her again tonight

Trading One S for Gnex?

Ok so I am about to trade my One S for a Gnex. And i want to know what are the pros and cons of this. And I want know if it is a good deal. I want to know what you guys think.
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I also want to know if I even should trade it
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only if yo want a larger screen or NFC. Other than that One S trumps Gnex in every other way. Far better performance (S4).
ipit said:
only if yo want a larger screen or NFC. Other than that One S trumps Gnex in every other way. Far better performance (S4).
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Not only bigger screen but much better as well. I have both phones and my One S just sits in my drawer. Performance isn't "far" better. Development for the Gnex is far better and JellyBean 4.2.1 is just now taking off and it is sweet! I love everything about my GNex have no complaints, can't say the same for the One S I have many complaints.
Just came to One S from a Gnex.
I liked the better build quality and speed of One S. The JB interface is smoother, but in terms of raw power, speed for opening apps, the One S is better. Also liked the camera on One S more.
Browsing websites were much more comfortable on the Gnex due to the higher resolution.
If you like to constantly flash different roms and use the newest features, the Gnex is better at that.
Personally, I wouldn't go for the Gnex now. At least go for the N4.
Camera and S4 performance (battery life as well) is much better on the One S. if you are trading in an S3 version version of the one S then its a good deal.
As I posted in another thread here the other day:
The galaxy nexus display is nice, definitely sharper/clearer than the S, however, IMO it is too dull for SAMOLED panel, the one S is the best when it comes to calibration for colour settings, whites are the best I have seen on a SAMOLED screen, view ability in sunshine is far better from my usage with both. The display isn't "much" bigger due to the on screen buttons, iirc the height is pretty much the same but the galaxy nexus is a bit wider.
Advantages of the GN over the 1S:
- far better NLED
- nexus device so will get updates fast and quick
- much better and bigger developing community
- NFC
Advantages of the 1S over the GN:
- far better audio quality
- camera is far better overall
- better build and perceived quality
- much better battery life
- much better performance overall due to having one of the best CPU chipsets there is (also don't forget that we haven't got JB yet, so when we get that, the speed and smoothness will increase again)
Software skins and design/looks is personal preference.
One S is better overall
Count me as a soon to be former Galaxy Nexus owner in favor of the One S.
I was concerned about the lower resolution but I held both phones side by side and for me there isn't much to choose one over the other, screen wise, even for reading text. Yes the GNex is larger and 720p but (as has been said) the One S has great calibration and the panel is of a newer design, quite excellent for a QHD display. The GNex also suffers from screen burn-in on the notification and button bars (visible when playing full-screen videos).
The biggest deciding factor for me is the size and feel for the device - the GNex and other 4.7" phones are simply too big for comfortable one-hand operation, and won't fit into my slim jeans front pocket. The 4.3" One S is the perfect compromise - bigger than the paltry 4.0" on the iPhone and low-end Android phones, yet not the gargantuan size of "flagship" 4.7" phones.
Other factors in my decision are the poor external speaker volume, fair call quality and WiFi sensitivity, and below-average camera. The One S is better for all four. Plus, it has a built-in FM radio which is handy if you don't have a huge data plan like me and so can't always stream radio.
Then there is the overall feel of quality. The GNex was never praised for its build quality, whereas the One S definitely feels like a premium device.
Yes the GNex has 4.2, but that isn't a big jump from 4.1, which introduced Google Now and Project Butter, two improvements that really count. The One S is already smooth (thanks to its superior processing power over the GNex) but will be even better once it gets 4.1.1 (January?). For me, this will mean the One S will be "current" until Android 5 is released next Summer (not that I would necessarily ditch the One S then either).
Unless you are a developer, or love flashing ROMs, or simply MUST have the latest version of Android before everyone else, the One S is the better phone overall.
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Count me as a soon to be former Galaxy Nexus owner in favor of the One S.
I was concerned about the lower resolution but I held both phones side by side and for me there isn't much to choose one over the other, screen wise, even for reading text. Yes the GNex is larger and 720p but (as has been said) the One S has great calibration and the panel is of a newer design, quite excellent for a QHD display. The GNex also suffers from screen burn-in on the notification and button bars (visible when playing full-screen videos).
The biggest deciding factor for me is the size and feel for the device - the GNex and other 4.7" phones are simply too big for comfortable one-hand operation, and won't fit into my slim jeans front pocket. The 4.3" One S is the perfect compromise - bigger than the paltry 4.0" on the iPhone and low-end Android phones, yet not the gargantuan size of "flagship" 4.7" phones.
Other factors in my decision are the poor external speaker volume, fair call quality and WiFi sensitivity, and below-average camera. The One S is better for all four. Plus, it has a built-in FM radio which is handy if you don't have a huge data plan like me and so can't always stream radio.
Then there is the overall feel of quality. The GNex was never praised for its build quality, whereas the One S definitely feels like a premium device.
Yes the GNex has 4.2, but that isn't a big jump from 4.1, which introduced Google Now and Project Butter, two improvements that really count. The One S is already smooth (thanks to its superior processing power over the GNex) but will be even better once it gets 4.1.1 (January?). For me, this will mean the One S will be "current" until Android 5 is released next Summer (not that I would necessarily ditch the One S then either).
Unless you are a developer, or love flashing ROMs, or simply MUST have the latest version of Android before everyone else, the One S is the better phone overall.
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Very nice explanation ! I appreciate it. Thank you I think I am staying with the One S. The S4 processor is awesome! And I really like the camera. Thanks guys greatly appreciated.
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It's hard to choose between the two because each one has its pros and cons. I have both at hand and I got to say, the only real bad thing that I can say about One S is the slightly lower res display and maybe a tad smaller screen size. other than that I prefer one S more than Nexus. I swapping my sim back and forth between the 2 and always found myself going back to One S due to it's design and overall usefulness. I wish HTC put a higher res display and maybe slightly larger screen but other than that, it would be the better choice for me.
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It's hard to choose between the two because each one has its pros and cons. I have both at hand and I got to say, the only real bad thing that I can say about One S is the slightly lower res display and maybe a tad smaller screen size. other than that I prefer one S more than Nexus. I swapping my sim back and forth between the 2 and always found myself going back to One S due to it's design and overall usefulness. I wish HTC put a higher res display and maybe slightly larger screen but other than that, it would be the better choice for me.
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They did. It's called the One X.
Unfortunately, most of us on GSM networks don't get them.
Keep the One S. I had the choice today of getting a GNex or the One S. Better Camera, Faster, MUCH Better design, feels nice in the hand, better camera, better UI (genuine to opinion but I think more people would agree than disagree) better audio.
One S tops it. Only get the GNEX if you're after stock android.
I have to agree. I went from a gnex to a one s, and I'm glad I made the switch.
The build quality, camera, speed are all better on the one s. The colors on the screen are better calibrated, and I also get faster downloads with the one s.
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Im happy i didnt opt for the gnex in july but now I wish i had waited for n4, :cyclops:
I just came from a gnex a few days ago.
my opinion.
HOS: better battery life, nice build quality, sense, nice camera.
Gnex: bigger screen, faster ota, 4.2.1,
I like HTC one s a lot, maybe I got tires of aosp
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It's hard to choose between the two because each one has its pros and cons. I have both at hand and I got to say, the only real bad thing that I can say about One S is the slightly lower res display and maybe a tad smaller screen size. other than that I prefer one S more than Nexus. I swapping my sim back and forth between the 2 and always found myself going back to One S due to it's design and overall usefulness. I wish HTC put a higher res display and maybe slightly larger screen but other than that, it would be the better choice for me.
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HTC did...its called the One X
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I just sold my GNex and picked up the One S. The GNex is still a great device but it's too big for my hands. I didn't like the big hump at the bottom. Whenever I typed, it felt uncomfortable and eventually started to hurt my hands. I have small hands, even for a female! lol. Also the external speakers on the GNex is extremely low! I used the navigation one time and could barely hear the lady. I have a new car so it's not like my car is loud. I wish Power Amp would make an app specifically for navigation. Anyways, I love the design of the One S. It looks a lot more sleeker than the GNex. Feels more solid, external speaker is louder, earpiece is louder,....As much as I enjoyed the pure Android experience, I missed Sense UI. I had a number of HTC Androids in the past. So it's nice to have one again.
Except the rest of the HTC one X sucks overall compared to the S, thank tegra 3 for that:
Advantages of the S4 over tegra 3:
- More performance per core, which is better than having an additional 2 cores as android/apps/tasks don't fully utilise the potential of dual core let alone quad. When I compare my S to the X, I notice that things are a lot snappier/more instant i.e. loading the gallery thumbnails, loading games/levels, apps, rendering maps etc. Of course, better software/driver optimisation would be a big factor here as well.
I haven't used a X with JB yet, so that difference might not be as noticeable any more. People who have got the update so far have said the improvement in performance is massive.
- Amazing power efficiency thus better battery life
The X has supposedly improved by quite a bit with the JB update, but it still wouldn't be as good as the XL or S.
- Doesn't get anywhere as hot or heat up as quickly as tegra 3, as we all know on this forum, over heating components can cause many problems.
- the audio on the S is better than the X
- smoother 1080P recording
So the X isn't the one you want, the XL is Or the X+ (bigger battery, 64GB, better front camera, jellybean on it already)
And the S has the lovely aluminium uni-body where as the X series phones use the polycarbonate uni-body.
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Except the rest of the HTC one X sucks overall compared to the S, thank tegra 3 for that:
Advantages of the S4 over tegra 3:
- More performance per core, which is better than having an additional 2 cores as android/apps/tasks don't fully utilise the potential of dual core let alone quad. When I compare my S to the X, I notice that things are a lot snappier/more instant i.e. loading the gallery thumbnails, loading games/levels, apps, rendering maps etc. Of course, better software/driver optimisation would be a big factor here as well.
I haven't used a X with JB yet, so that difference might not be as noticeable any more. People who have got the update so far have said the improvement in performance is massive.
- Amazing power efficiency thus better battery life
The X has supposedly improved by quite a bit with the JB update, but it still wouldn't be as good as the XL or S.
- Doesn't get anywhere as hot or heat up as quickly as tegra 3, as we all know on this forum, over heating components can cause many problems.
- the audio on the S is better than the X
- smoother 1080P recording
So the X isn't the one you want, the XL is Or the X+ (bigger battery, 64GB, better front camera, jellybean on it already)
And the S has the lovely aluminium uni-body where as the X series phones use the polycarbonate uni-body.
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having said that unfortunately they do not make the One S with the S4 chip anymore so a better comparison would the same be said about a One S with a S3 chip?
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having said that unfortunately they do not make the One S with the S4 chip anymore so a better comparison would the same be said about a One S with a S3 chip?
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No ... they are selling new One S 64GB with S4 in Taiwan now

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