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Hello, I am currently choosing between One S and One X, so I would like you to comment on some of my questions. First of all, let's talk about screen. I just had iPhone 4S, which has retina display. It is awesome, but after it, I used Omnia 7. And I see so many pixels there... It makes me sad. So can you see pixels on One S?
Second is question about real life usage. Is One S better than One X in terms of speed? I read some comments that One S is laggy in browser and some other places. Also, HTC removed some visual features from it. Like carusel effect when going between app browser and it's categories. So, One S doesn't have all the goodies that One X has?
Third is battery life. How good is battery life on One S? Would it easily last a day with 8h screen-on time? I surf a lot and play games, listen to music. So battery life is important to me.
Forth, size. I can't test them in real-life, so I have to make some decisions from comments and reviews. Is One X comfortable to use, or not? How does it compare to Galaxy Nexus, Titan and other big phones? I know that One S size would be perfect.
Fifth, the quality of materials. I just read about some strange things with One S, that it gets scratched and etc. I want to buy black/red version. Will I be affected with this thing?
Sixth, please comment on both phones and give arguments why one is better than other
BTW, how about memory? I listen to a lot of music, is there any easy way to compress mp3 and not loose quality? I think that 9GB won't be enough...
I am really thankful for all of your comments and I am really waiting for an honest help Also, I am returning to Android after more than a year being without it. So help me make the right decision and not be disappointed with it Thank you guys!
I'm currently in a very similar situation as you. When I saw One X & One S after release during MWC I planned to get One X, because it looked like a better device for me.
My opinion changed after first negative feedback from One X early adopters, who noticed many bugs & defects, such as UI & browser lags, screen glitches, build quality issues and so on, there are many threads about that kind of problems in One X section.
After that I focused on One S, which appeared to be much faster thanks to 28 nm Krait CPU, which easily outperforms Tegra3 in day-to-day operations. One S also has better build quality, especailly the black/red one, with MAO. Polycarbonate may be fine, but for me nothing beats metal unibody, when it comes to build quality of a smartphone.
One S is also smaller which is an advantege for me. I don't have small hands, but I want to be able to use my smartphone comfortably with one hand.
I prefer LCD to AMOLED, but I could live with One S's qHD SAMOLED, it's not a deal breaker. Also I do not notice Pentile on my Galaxy S, so I guess I won't notice it on One S.
When it comes to memory more is always better. 10 GB may be too much for some, but for others it will be too little.
Tegra 3 SoC is also very closed-sourced, so it's much harder to work with for devs, than Qualcomm SoC's.
I prefer S (dont have one yet, getting when avaible)
1. I dont know about pixels, Im moving from HTC Tattoo, so I probably dont have problems (I might have, if I can test HTC One X and S side by side @ shop)
2. S should be faster. It have smaller screen and in daily uses its faster then tegra3 (daily programs dont use quad core).
3. I dont think u can last 8h screen time...
4. I dont even know if 4.3 is good for me, but 4.7 would be to large... I would prefer same hardware in 4' size
5. S should be built with really good quality, but recent topic stated some wierd scrach... Follow that thread to see more info (search general section).
6. I prefer S because: Smaller screen, faster daily use, better battery life
One S -> One X
I bought it 4 days ago and its awesome...
Most of the guys here on xda bought the one x.. the looked at the specs and see an quad core and instantly bought it.
But they forget that the tegra 3 is totally crap! 40nm, built on a 8 years old platfrom. ( shame on you nvidia) mostly closed source and crap support by nv.
qualcom did the better job with that s4
Hey guys, HTC Sensation user here
Ive been suffering terrible signal issues with the Sensation (XE) On Vodafone UK networks. This is a well known problem, And ive had a couple replacements with the same issues so i know the device isnt faulty.
Upon research ive discovered its the Antenna design which is the culprit, So after some complaining, Ive been offered The One S or One X
Id like to know about the antenna design (google wasnt much use) Is the antenna on the One series an external antenna ? Where the antenna connectors are on the back cover ?
Id like to know a bit more before i commit to getting it, So is anyone here a Vodafone (preferably UK) User with either The one S or X ??
Could you let me know about your signal reception ? And maybe if your feeling generous Post some pictures of the Back cover for me to inspect
Also, Which would you say is the 'better' device ? I know the X is quad core, The S is Dual core, But does that make a massive difference ? Except to the battery life, which isnt the best at any given time
Thanks people, Hopefully Speak to you all again when i receive my nice new phone
I had the One X and the width of the phone annoyed me.
Now got the One S and very happy with it. Little bit more snappier I feel in menus too.
I would say the One X. It's 2012 and all highend smartphones should have HD screens.
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I would say the One X. It's 2012 and all highend smartphones should have HD screens.
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I think the One X is a disappointment. The tegra 3 is just not good enough anymore for a high end modell, even if it's a quad core.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(System_on_Chip)
There is a snapdragon with a quad core coming soon, i guess htc will switch to those when they release new high end phones, that will be way better.
But it's just my humble opinion here.
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I think the One X is a disappointment. The tegra 3 is just not good enough anymore for a high end modell, even if it's a quad core.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(System_on_Chip)
There is a snapdragon with a quad core coming soon, i guess htc will switch to those when they release new high end phones, that will be way better.
But it's just my humble opinion here.
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I agree with you I had the choice of both today, I chose the One S. I know the X has quad core, but more isnt always better, There are pluses and negatives to both devices but in the end the S won my vote.
Besides i can see the quad core draining battery in a heartbeat lol
Yeah, quad core is probably the last feature I am interested in from the One X. I'd take the screen, 32GB storage and NFC over the processor.
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Hey, i'm quite new here and tought I write here too. I have the same problem right now. Don't know which to choose. But here are some points for both phones. At first there is the One X:
It has a 720p 4.7" display, based on HTCs new Super-LCD 2 with IPS technology and NO Pentile-Matrix. It is said to be the best display out there. Bright and natural colours with very good black and white values. But as said it is a very big display and not fitted for every hand.
The body is out of polycarbonate which is quite durable but also not too hard. But it still is plastic and so it feels a bit cheap( correct me if I'm wrong). It surely feels cheaper than the HTC One S. But it's lighter
Let's come to the processor. The One X has the nvidia Tegra 3 Quad Core built in. It's an SoC based on the ARM Cortex A9 architecture in 40nm( for comparison: the Exynos 4210 is built on 45nm).
This isn't bad, but if you compare it to the new Krait architecture( somehow comparable to the new ARM Cortex A15 built on 28nm) it is significantly older and also slower. The Tegras GPU is an Nvidia own graphic unit which is known to be the worst of the newer GPUs( when all of them are at the same clock speed) but it should be fast enough to run most games smoothly so right now every new GPU is fast enough. A good point for the Kal-El may be the Tegra Zone, but I do not know enough of that service.
A big problem is the Quad Core unit. It's not that it's bad or doesn't work it's simply not optimized so most apps won't even fully use it. The companion core which is built into the SoC is a great power saver but it seems that it switches early to quad core( the companion core is not able to run when the quad core unit is active and the other way round) which could be seen on the battery life.
Let's come to battery life:
The One X has a 1800 mAh accu which is really good but cause of the quad core and the big display it will be consumed away very fast. So don't expect more than a day.
I don't know how much the Tegra and the display eats away so I cannot say if it will hold your 8h( display on).
I will only mention the differences of both handsets so I won't talk about the beats audio enhancement and the camera.
So let's come to the One S:
It is the smaller phone, and as you said it would be the perfect size. I think it's more comfortable to hold and also has the better feeling cause of it's unibody made out of aluminium. There are some known issues with the red black version but you can look them up in this forum.
The display is a Pentile-Matrix Super-AMOLED design with a qHD resolution( 960x540). If you compare it to the Galaxy S II Super-AMOLED-Plus non-Pentile display with a resolution of 800x480 the effective resolution is roughly the same( somehow 800*480*3 and 960*540*2 cause of the subpixel).
One problem for you may be the pixel density of the One S. When the One X has an pixel density of around 300 pixel per inch ( similar to your iPhone) the One S has one similar to your old Samsung.
The processor is something that really confuses me. It has the new Qualcomm Krait S4 SoC which seems to be a mystery.
It is built on a licensed ARMv7 architecture on 28nm called Krait. Qualcomm itself said it's comparable to a ARM Cortex A15 cpu. While that has to be seen it is clearly much faster than the Tegra 3, especially in everyday single-thread tasks. Here the Krait is extremely fast. The GPU while not the best out there is also a remarkable fast one that can compete to ARMs Mali 400 built in the Galaxy S II. You should not have problems with it.
One more thing for the Krait is it's really power efficient clocking. The Krait can clock each core independently so if it only needs one and a half it will clock the second core to half the speed. This gives it another great advantage over the Tegra which can only clock all together down.
At least the One S should hold as long as the One X despite it's smaller battery( 1650 mAh).
One other advantage may be the fact that some One S devices do have the new 3.0 Linux kernel. This is not confirmed but if it's right then the One S may be able to get USB-Hosting which means that you can use a real keyboard for example. This may arrive as an update.
So I personally prefer the One S despite the worse display and the small issues with the black and red version.
If you are interested in another phone you may also look for the Asus Padfone. Nearly the same stats as the One S but with an expendable storage and no beats audio enhancement. It may be interesting for you too.
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I want the screen from the One X and the S4 from the One S. I guess I'm gone have to get me the One XL.
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I want the screen from the One X and the S4 from the One S. I guess I'm gone have to get me the One XL.
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Hopefully the one XL comes to T-Mobile s4>tegra 3
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One s gets my vote... One x looks huge .. Uncomfortable to hold
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Midian666 said:
One S -> One X
I bought it 4 days ago and its awesome...
Most of the guys here on xda bought the one x.. the looked at the specs and see an quad core and instantly bought it.
But they forget that the tegra 3 is totally crap! 40nm, built on a 8 years old platfrom. ( shame on you nvidia) mostly closed source and crap support by nv.
qualcom did the better job with that s4
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does your phone support glonass and the front camera is 1.3mp or 0.3mp VGA? thanks inadvance
I do not know whether it has glonass or not but the one s has a vga (0.3) and the one x has a 1.3 mp front camera
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Hello, I am currently choosing between One S and One X, so I would like you to comment on some of my questions. First of all, let's talk about screen. I just had iPhone 4S, which has retina display. It is awesome, but after it, I used Omnia 7. And I see so many pixels there... It makes me sad. So can you see pixels on One S?
Second is question about real life usage. Is One S better than One X in terms of speed? I read some comments that One S is laggy in browser and some other places. Also, HTC removed some visual features from it. Like carusel effect when going between app browser and it's categories. So, One S doesn't have all the goodies that One X has?
Third is battery life. How good is battery life on One S? Would it easily last a day with 8h screen-on time? I surf a lot and play games, listen to music. So battery life is important to me.
Forth, size. I can't test them in real-life, so I have to make some decisions from comments and reviews. Is One X comfortable to use, or not? How does it compare to Galaxy Nexus, Titan and other big phones? I know that One S size would be perfect.
Fifth, the quality of materials. I just read about some strange things with One S, that it gets scratched and etc. I want to buy black/red version. Will I be affected with this thing?
Sixth, please comment on both phones and give arguments why one is better than other
BTW, how about memory? I listen to a lot of music, is there any easy way to compress mp3 and not loose quality? I think that 9GB won't be enough...
I am really thankful for all of your comments and I am really waiting for an honest help Also, I am returning to Android after more than a year being without it. So help me make the right decision and not be disappointed with it Thank you guys!
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1: Screen. It depends on you and your eyesight I'm afraid. I'm using a Nexus S as my daily driver and I didn't so much notice the pixels compared with my iPhone 4, as the screen is larger, so it's generally easier to use. I don't see the pixels on the One S; the One X does have a larger screen with a higher resolution but the difference wasn't as stark as I imagined it would be. SLCD vs AMOLED, too; AMOLED is a bit of a battery drain at times whereas the SLCD doesn't look as good at night.
2: Performance. Both felt beautifully smooth in that classic Androidy way, that is, sometimes the interface can feel a little elastic. I didn't notice any difference.
3: Battery. I didn't see eight hours of usage from my iPhone 4 unless that included a lot of music (the usage isn't screen on time). I doubt you'll see this from the One series. I'll see five hours of screen on time from my Nexus S if I restrict my data usage, especially over the 3G network. Reviews say that the One S has a small advantage, but from customers and colleagues, they're both "charge once a day" devices. No change here from almost anything else in the smartphone world, then!
4 Size. The One S feels very thin in the hand. It isn't small, it's tall, relatively narrow and oh-so-thin. It feels divine in my hands if I'm getting all arty about it. The One X, however, surprised me at how adept it felt in my hands. I was expecting it to feel a bit of a monster and it didn't. I don't like the One X's protruding lens for the camera, mind. It's quite a bump on the back.
5 Quality. Both feel good, but for me the One S takes this one. Going back to how wonderful it feels to handle, part of that is what it's made of.
6 What's better? If you need NFC, you need the One S. If you game, you're probably going to want the One X. If the One S had NFC I'd already have one, but it doesn't and I'd really like a slice of the NFC pie. If the One X didn't have that bulge on the back, I'd have one of those, but it does... So... I'm undecided.
Finally, as others have said, 9 Gb isn't so much, but it depends on your personal requirements. I don't believe the 9 Gb versus 14 Gb in my Nexus S would make any difference whatsoever as I don't use my handset as my main music device.
I think this thread has been the straw that broke the camel's back for me. I've never really cared about a pretty screen to be honest.
When the display is not a factor, the One S is just... better...
I agree, The One S is the underdog... Majority of people will think One X because its more expensive, its at the top of the One Series.... But in all fairness, The One S wins hands down for me...
Bigger isnt always better ...... ask my misses
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I agree, The One S is the underdog... Majority of people will think One X because its more expensive, its at the top of the One Series.... But in all fairness, The One S wins hands down for me...
Bigger isnt always better ...... ask my misses
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Well, thanks for all your opinions But I decided to buy One X. Why? Because I hate Omnia 7 screen, which is almost the same as One S. I see pixels, it's not sharp and etc. Also, I decided that 12GB are not enough for me.
In my opinion, HTC did a bad thing releasing One S with this poor screen and small storage.
'sup folks.
This thread is dedicated to my lovely wife who just couldn't make up her mind between One S ("kinda looks nice"), Galaxy SIII ("oh nice screen"), and iPhone5 ("when is it coming out? my 3GS feels old"). And between all 3 of them, "can i unlock them?" (in Canada, phones are locked to their ISP, so if I buy it from, say, Rogers, I can't just pop another SIM card from, say, Bell.)
So what do u guys think?
Personally, I'm an Android guy through and through. Can't fix it? Find a ROM to restore it. Boot another ROM. Root it on day one. So iPhone is out of the question. But I tend to like the look of One S better than SIII. and i had good experience with HTC phones. and SIII costs $100 more.
But she's been using iPhone3GS, love the simplicity, has no idea what 'rooting' is and why its necessary no matter how many times I explained that it's necessary for TiBackup to work... But she plays around with my Nexus7 and loves to stream Korean drama and check Facebook with it. And last time we went to Costco she saw the SIII on display and goes "oh wow, that's a nice screen. does it work like ur Nexus? I kinda want it." So mainly for her, OneS is the cheaper phone, but SIII's screen looks amazing, and she'll only be using her phone for;
a. take photos
b. facebook
c. browse the latest grocery flyers and baby product review
d. stream korean dramas
e. whatsapp
What do you think she should pick up? Or she should just wait for the next iPhone in a month or two?
Any input?
I think your wife would be better of with the One S. she doesn't really sound like an advanced user that would really care much about the spec difference. the One S is $100 cheaper and can do the things she wants to do just fine.
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I think your wife would be better of with the One S. she doesn't really sound like an advanced user that would really care much about the spec difference. the One S is $100 cheaper and can do the things she wants to do just fine.
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thanks. that's what i think too.
say, what do u think between OneS's screen vs my RAZR? just for easier comparison for her to see, rather than going down to the local mall and play with one under the watchful eyes of eager salesmen....
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/6
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thanks. that's what i think too.
say, what do u think between OneS's screen vs my RAZR? just for easier comparison for her to see, rather than going down to the local mall and play with one under the watchful eyes of eager salesmen....
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the RAZR and the HOS have the same screen, Pentile AMOLED 960x540. But i have seen many people state that the RAZR can have a yellow tint while the colors are more balanced on the HOS
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nice. thanks!
so for my wife's sake, i can safely say "its like my RAZR, but the color is abit better".
I'd say 1S for your wife. Main reasons would be the superior camera and slim, sleek form factor. Honestly as much as I love my 1S I want to trade and get an S3, my hands are just too big for this thing!:screwy: but I think this is the best android phone for a woman hands down, it's a sexy device that's for sure.
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1S the best for sure...
To be hones I have not realy used the S3 myself... I have had it in my hands and just new it is way to big... I had the One X to start of with but then changed it for a 1S mainly because of the size... Why would I need a "mobile PHONE" with a quadcore anyway...?!
i just traded my tmobile GS3 for a htc one s plus cash. the GS3 camera sucks at night. i can post photos in a few. my buddy has the evo 4g lte which should be the same camera as the one s. u will see a big difference in quality. also the GS3 was pretty big. i thought it would be cool but i didnt like it cause it was hard to use with just one hand. unless u got some big hands u might like it. plus the one s just feels better in the hand and it feels lighter. oh and HTC Sense 4.0 over Touchwiz anyday lol.
1st Pic: GS3
2nd Pic: Evo 4G LTE
3rd Pic: GS3
4th Pic: Evo 4G LTE
Comprehensive breakdown because I feel like doing one to refresh the mind.
CPU/GPU: Known quantity. One S isn't as fast as the GS3 here (international to international) but the reduced resolution of the One S hides the GPU deficit and the CPUs are basically equal. The US GS3 is same for CPU, slightly slower on GPU because they use the same chipset.
Display: One S is MUCH better in terms of calibration. The white point is accurate and gamma stays constant. Brightness is essentially only limited by hard protection, but you should never need to turn it up to that point. Overall, the One S has the better colors, GS3 has the better pixel density. Pick your poison.
Camera: Stock to stock, GS3 might win because the One S has pretty heavy compression on both video and photos. Once you get an HQ camera mod though, even the very best that the GS3 can produce is not as sharp as the One S. The One S doesn't use flash for focusing though, so that's something the GS3 wins on for low light flash photos.
Software: Sense is nice for people who know it, and looks nice too. Touchwiz is more functional but doesn't look as good. Once you get rid of Sense's 3D effects it runs much better on the home screen. Elsewhere is a matter of ROM optimization, and is basically close enough to not be worth discussing
Battery: The One S CAN be much better for battery life than the GS3, but requires much more management to do so, because even small battery drainers can lead to big loss of battery because the One S has a much smaller battery capacity compared to the GS3. GS3 is generally less efficient because of the very blue display, and the fact that it's a HUGE display. Exynos might draw more power too.
Design: Subjective. If you like metal, I guess the One S wins.
Decisive winners: If you care about expandable storage and removable battery enough to swing your decision, GS3 will probably be the one you want.
I agree with most of the above apart from:
CPU/GPU - The CPU in the one S is the better one overall as the performance per core is quite a bit better than the exynos quad in the GS 3 and at this stage currently with android and apps, it is far more important than having an additional 2 cores. Not only is it better for performance, but it is also better for power efficiency and the amount of heat given out
The GPU in the int. GS 3 is far better. Although as you said there isn't much difference in real world use especially as the S has the inferior res. so games etc. won't be as stressful.
Also the One S does beat the GS 3 in quite a few benchmark tests, the GS 3 only really beats it in tests that use/are dependant on the GPU i.e. quadrant (also quadrant gives quad core a better score just due to it having 2 extra cores)
In real world usage though, there isn't a huge amount of difference, I personally found the one S to be more snappy/instant feel and the GS 3 more smoother overall (there should be very little to virtually no difference when JB comes to both phones officially)
Camera - GS 3 100 times over the one S for 1080P video recording quality (however, the one s 100 times over the GS 3 for stereo audio recording ), however, the camera for photos is more or less equal, some shots look better on the GS 3 and likewise for the S, however, the camera UI and features are far better on the S
Battery - The battery life is better on the S overall (personally I didn't do much tweaking to it, just turned stuff like auto brightness off, wifi max performance off etc.
However, with the GS 3 you can have the option to use spares and an extended battery at some point.......due to it being removable
Whilst the GS 3 does have a bigger battery, it needs it due to the bigger and 720P screen as well as a more power hungry CPU
Imagine how long the S would last with one full charge on a 2100mAh battery!
And yup, exactly, the extra storage of the GS 3 and removable battery are 2 of the main deciding factors IMO.
Honestly think your wife will prefer the one S due to size, sense (you really don't need to faff about with rooting and replacing every app with 3rd party ones, sense apps are great and they also look "pretty" )
very informative, guys! thanks!
i think 1S wins for her due to smaller size and (arguably) better/faster camera. she's quite a petite lady. and i dont think she cares about battery replacement or storage. haha, storage... all the years she owns 3G and 3GS, she downloaded a total of probably 10 apps. 7 she removed on the first day. (i know she kept the Economist, Whatsapp, and BBC News....)
but if she does wants the bigger "nicer" (in her own words) screen, then all bets are off... i'll talk to her again tonight
So i've been planning on getting a new phone for a while now and I love the speed of my One S. Has anybody used the One X? How fast would you say it is in comparison because I think the One S seemed faster but then again I haven't used a One X with the sense 4.1 update and I know that was a huge update for us. The phone got a hell of a lot snappier and smoother. I was planning on getting the nexus 4 but if you look at the forum for that the battery life and build quality is extremely disappointing.
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So i've been planning on getting a new phone for a while now and I love the speed of my One S. Has anybody used the One X? How fast would you say it is in comparison because I think the One S seemed faster but then again I haven't used a One X with the sense 4.1 update and I know that was a huge update for us. The phone got a hell of a lot snappier and smoother. I was planning on getting the nexus 4 but if you look at the forum for that the battery life and build quality is extremely disappointing.
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Bigger, slower
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Bigger, slower
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Nice and brief lol!
Only the memory is slower, the processor is faster and the GPU is better. Other than that, it's slightly fatter and can't hold a charge for long
only advantages of the X are:
- screen
- NFC
- more storage
one S (s4):
- better CPU chipset for performance, heat and power efficiency
- faster
- aluminium uni-body
- much better battery life
- better audio
- 1080P recording is smoother
However, JB has made a huge difference to the X for audio, performance and battery life (but it still isn't as good as the S and plus chances are the S could improve even further in these areas when it gets JB)
You want to be looking at the X+ or preferably the XL if you don't need any more than 32GB of storage.
Kamilr97 said:
Only the memory is slower, the processor is faster and the GPU is better. Other than that, it's slightly fatter and can't hold a charge for long
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Cheers for the info. I'm not that interested in how good the One X hardware is because the One S is fast enough it's just I long for a phone with a hd screen that is larger than 4.3 so the One X fits my preference perfectly. I also need more storage for my music collection and the price of the One X is really good now so I want it. The only thing that lets the One S down is the screen. It's not bad but a pentile super amoled display at a qhd resolution is hardly something to boast about in late 2012. What do you guys think about the Nexus 4? I really wanted to get it but after looking at the threads there are so many design flaws with it and the battery life is supposed to be terrible. (One X battery is better)
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only advantages of the X are:
- screen
- NFC
- more storage
one S (s4):
- better CPU chipset for performance, heat and power efficiency
- faster
- aluminium uni-body
- much better battery life
- better audio
- 1080P recording is smoother
However, JB has made a huge difference to the X for audio, performance and battery life (but it still isn't as good as the S and plus chances are the S could improve even further in these areas when it gets JB)
You want to be looking at the X+ or preferably the XL if you don't need any more than 32GB of storage.
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Really informative reply thanks. May I ask why the audio on the one x isn't as good? Surely sound output through headphones is just as good as they both use the beats amp? Or do you mean mics and recording? I've just looked at the One XL and in the UK it's confusing, they sell it at a Qhd resolution and it's a compeltely different phone to the american XL. I do want the One X+ but at £470 it's really not worth it. That's an extortionate amount of money for an HTC phone and everyone knows that HTC phones lose their value incredibly quickly
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Really informative reply thanks. I wasn't aware that the X had worse audio.
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No problem
Regarding the nexus 4, it looks great, however;
- camera not as good
- battery life not as good
- audio not as good (more so the loudspeaker performance)
Personally the only advantages it has over the S (that apply to me) are;
- better NLED
- better and bigger screen, although quite a few users are saying the screen looks washed out compared to other LCD based screens
- better software support and you get updates much quicker
Although there is something wrong with the software on the N4, the battery life should be much better and I am betting that a software update will improve it so it will be as good as the S if not better (S4 pro + 2100mAh + power efficient display and with stock android, which should be very well optimised thus we should be seeing much better battery life from it )
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No problem
Regarding the nexus 4, it looks great, however;
- camera not as good
- battery life not as good
- audio not as good (more so the loudspeaker performance)
Personally the only advantages it has over the S (that apply to me) are;
- better NLED
- better and bigger screen, although quite a few users are saying the screen looks washed out compared to other LCD based screens
- better software support and you get updates much quicker
Although there is something wrong with the software on the N4, the battery life should be much better and I am betting that a software update will improve it so it will be as good as the S if not better (S4 pro + 2100mAh + power efficient display and with stock android, which should be very well optimised thus we should be seeing much better battery life from it )
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Awesome. It's really rare to find people who give pros and cons on devices. If only there were more people like you! Usually it's always either Pros or Cons!
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Awesome. It's really rare to find people who give pros and cons on devices. If only there were more people like you! Usually it's always either Pros or Cons!
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Thanks very much
sharpinator said:
Cheers for the info. I'm not that interested in how good the One X hardware is because the One S is fast enough it's just I long for a phone with a hd screen that is larger than 4.3 so the One X fits my preference perfectly. I also need more storage for my music collection and the price of the One X is really good now so I want it. The only thing that lets the One S down is the screen. It's not bad but a pentile super amoled display at a qhd resolution is hardly something to boast about in late 2012. What do you guys think about the Nexus 4? I really wanted to get it but after looking at the threads there are so many design flaws with it and the battery life is supposed to be terrible. (One X battery is better)
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Based on this info I'd honestly suggest the galaxy s iii
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lorddart said:
Based on this info I'd honestly suggest the galaxy s iii
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Thanks for your opinion. I actually considered the GS3 but after looking at many sites and youtube video comments the One X comes out on top and the screen is a big priority of mine and the SGS3 has an inferior screen that is no where near as bright as the One X. If I'm honest the only 2 types of phones I will ever consider at this present time are HTC phones or a nexus device.
International or North American/Australian One X?
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I own an AT&T HTC One X (One XL everywhere else) and my girlfriend owns the One S (S4). My impression? They're exactly the same aside from mine being better tuned... Which is to be expected.
My screen is definitely nicer though.
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International or North American/Australian One X?
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International model
sharpinator said:
Thanks for your opinion. I actually considered the GS3 but after looking at many sites and youtube video comments the One X comes out on top and the screen is a big priority of mine and the SGS3 has an inferior screen that is no where near as bright as the One X. If I'm honest the only 2 types of phones I will ever consider at this present time are HTC phones or a nexus device.
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No problem, only suggested the s iii cause it fit all your needs, hd screen, bigger screen, not to mention it (unlike HTC current phones and nexus) has the micro sd slot which you said storage was a big deal for ya
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International one X isn't too great compared to the dual core one
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Speaking as a hox owner and comparing it to the one s of the missus: there are a few big advantages of the one x: better and bigger screen, better sound and more storage. The better speed of the one s is not noticeble. It depends on what you find important in a phone. Never in the world would i trade my one x for a one s.
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Speaking as a hox owner and comparing it to the one s of the missus: there are a few big advantages of the one x: better and bigger screen, better sound and more storage. The better speed of the one s is not noticeble. It depends on what you find important in a phone. Never in the world would i trade my one x for a one s.
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Well I've found a good deal on the one x+ so I'll probably buy that if I get the money! Massive amount of storage less reflective screen. Better battery life. I'm drooling haha!
Some people will call me mad and no one probably cares but I'm coming back to the one s! I sold mine back at the start of February and I bought a nexus 4. The nexus 4 is a nice device but stock android is incredibly plain and the software keys take up so much screen space the screen is barely bigger than the one s (except when watching videos)
The sound quality is also a big step down from the one s, The audio on the one s is 100x better the DAC and beats are the reason for this I think. And the nexus 4 is a lot quieter. Everyone's moaning about how quiet the volume output is and I'm pretty sure its hardware.
The camera is also a major downgrade, the pictures my nexus 4 takes aren't much better than what my HTC wildfire took! I'd just thought I'd let you guys know my opinion on the nexus 4 if you consider upgrading to it but I think apart from the bigger and better screen the one s beats it in every way. As for the s4 pro and 2gb of ram I've hardly noticed any difference in real world usage.
So anyone thinking they've had enough of the one s, just think you've still got a great phone I've just sold a nexus 4 to get another one s so that's how much I miss it. I'll need to get used to the non HD pentile display again which will probably take me a week or so but I'm looking forward to it A lesson to anyone who loves htc sense. Don't buy a nexus!
I don't wonder about it. One S probably will remain the best android phone of this size until HTC M4 out at Q3 end hopefully. The only weak point on One S is QHD pentile screen(some said no microSD) and all the other stuffs are very good to excellent. If I have budget problem in this year, I can imagine I could use it til next year, it's a very powerful phone. Indeed, I decided to hold One S as my backup phone though I may get a M4 or M7 later, or give it for my parents.
Plain stock android is always bad because you got too little function and settings but the best thing on nexus is you always have a perfect working CM rom. The most updated and bugs free CM. There are many hardware problems on N4 like camera and sound, make it the worst Nexus in the record.
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I don't wonder about it. One S probably will remain the best android phone of this size until HTC M4 out at Q3 end hopefully.
Plain stock android is always bad because you got too little function and settings but the best thing on nexus is you always have a perfect working CM rom. The most updated and bugs free CM.
There are many hardware problems on N4 like camera and sound, make it the worst Nexus in the record.
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I completely agree, the fact that I'm giving up a phone with a hd display for a phone with a qhd pentile display is a credit to how good the One S is. I'll only probably have it for about 4-5 months and then I'll get the HTC One when my contract runs out but the One S is great, I suppose I'm just a sense maniac. I love HTC sense.
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I completely agree, the fact that I'm giving up a phone with a hd display for a phone with a qhd pentile display is a credit to how good the One S is. I'll only probably have it for about 4-5 months and then I'll get the HTC One when my contract runs out but the One S is great, I suppose I'm just a sense maniac. I love HTC sense.
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You aren't alone to doing this mad thing..lol... I was once have a Sony Xperia S and finally sold it out for One S in June and never look back. But yep, you're right, 720P is very impressive for text reading.
Do you guys think a higher resolution would be worth it on a 4.3" screen? I come from a Galaxy S II and I agree that 800x480 is far worse than our 960x540. But going any higher would be worth it?
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Do you guys think a higher resolution would be worth it on a 4.3" screen? I come from a Galaxy S II and I agree that 800x480 is far worse than our 960x540. But going any higher would be worth it?
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I do but no higher than 720 x 1280. The 8x has that resolution and the screen is as sharp as anything. I personally think the higher resolution is great for text but apart from that it's hardly a big deal. The resolution of the one s is fine for videos and picture viewing etc. I certainly see absolutely no point in the 1080p full hd screens that they're putting in these newest flag ship phones! So I don't think it's worth it although it would be nice. Anything above 4.3" i'd say it certainly is worth a higher resolution than qhd.
I'd have to agree that 4.3" is likely the sweet spot for this screen resolution.
I'm also switching to a One S soon; I currently have an LG Optimus L9, mostly for audio purposes since a large majority of my smartphone time is spent listening to music (for its price, it's sure low on distortion and seems to be able to drive my NuForce IEMs with no fuss). Being an avid GSMArena reader, I was pleased to learn that the One S still holds some of the lowest distortion readings of all smartphones ever reviewed (and that the Snapdragon S4 really zooms on this particular device).
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I'd have to agree that 4.3" is likely the sweet spot for this screen resolution.
I'm also switching to a One S soon; I currently have an LG Optimus L9, mostly for audio purposes since a large majority of my smartphone time is spent listening to music (for its price, it's sure low on distortion and seems to be able to drive my NuForce IEMs with no fuss). Being an avid GSMArena reader, I was pleased to learn that the One S still holds some of the lowest distortion readings of all smartphones ever reviewed (and that the Snapdragon S4 really zooms on this particular device).
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You'll love it, the sound quality is superb on this phone. It's half the reason why I missed the phone in the first place! The jellybean update made the audio a bit distorted and the volume was too loud so I don't know if that's been fixed but I know the sound quality was immense on sense 4.1 on ice cream sandwich.
Wow, you guys are updating quite fast! I just bought my one s (for a bargain) and I'm hoping to keep using it for 2 years. My previous phone was a galaxy s1, so compared to that, the one s really flies
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Some people will call me mad and no one probably cares but I'm coming back to the one s! I sold mine back at the start of February and I bought a nexus 4
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Welcome back but 64 GB variant will be batter
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I do but no higher than 720 x 1280. The 8x has that resolution and the screen is as sharp as anything. I personally think the higher resolution is great for text but apart from that it's hardly a big deal. The resolution of the one s is fine for videos and picture viewing etc. I certainly see absolutely no point in the 1080p full hd screens that they're putting in these newest flag ship phones! So I don't think it's worth it although it would be nice. Anything above 4.3" i'd say it certainly is worth a higher resolution than qhd.
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1080P is still useful if you are going to read some low quality pdf documents(probably scan via scanner) but WWW should be enough at 720p.
Do you think third party apps are more optimized (more fluid, stable...) on nexus 4 than on htc one s? Im thinking of switching to an iphone because of this...
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Do you think third party apps are more optimized (more fluid, stable...) on nexus 4 than on htc one s? Im thinking of switching to an iphone because of this...
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Nexus is not necessary better when you only stick with stock plain os. However, if you are willing to flash Nexus CM rom with 3rd kernels then the answer is 100% yes. But N4 is really bad at music, camera and voice call(or use BT handfree instead)........really really bad
iphone is good if you can live with the tiny screen.
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Nexus is not necessary better when you only stick with stock plain os. However, if you are willing to flash Nexus CM rom with 3rd kernels then the answer is 100% yes. But N4 is really bad at music, camera and voice call(or use BT handfree instead)........really really bad
iphone is good if you can live with the tiny screen.
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+1 to this
Apps run a little bit smoother on the nexus 4 but stock android and 4.2 are the main reason why. I just think the hardware of the device is rubbish. The dac is poor and the camera is awful. The nexus is good if you want a snappy stock android phone.
If you flash acid audio engine, music with earphones should be great, as it is on hos with cm and that mod.
Ill wait for ios 7 and key lime pie to decide, but I really dont see why not choosing a nexus instead of any other android phone: the SO is far more polished and software is always up to date. However when I see even nexus devices lagging in browser ,for example, I doubt a lot about android as SO...
Aside from the camera and sound I wouldn't go back to the one s , yea the widgets look better on sense and the theming is cool but I got rid of the soft keys thanks to a ROM and now I have the screen space jack and I really love the display ... I just wish they can make a nexus the size of a one s with HTCs camera and Googles freedom ... I know Google said the next nexus is going to have an insane camera so that might be the one!
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Matter of opinion I suppose
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Matter of opinion I suppose
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Don't fret too much guitarman (get it?) Look in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2116062
Tecardo is a master of restoring bricked HTC One S, give him a PM and see if he can help you out.
Daiskei said:
Don't fret too much guitarman (get it?) Look in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2116062
Tecardo is a master of restoring bricked HTC One S, give him a PM and see if he can help you out.
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hehe I get it, nice one
I am getting the itch for a new phone, and i am stuck between 3 phones, and i need some real world input.
I currently have the S3, rooted, unlocked on CM 10.1. I am unhappy with a few things, such as poor signal strength, data drops (on both stock touchwiz and CM) and poor battery life....
The main things i look for when i get a phone are signal strength....being able to get as close to pure android as possible (whether stock or running custom), run wireless tether (for free) and the ability to play decent games (nothing crazy) and run things without the phone locking up.... also, camera is nice as i have two young kids, and i want to take "good" shots, not expecting DSLR quality, and "good" video.....
So i thought to myself, i like the feel of the Razr M, it's almost the perfect size for me. But i hear the signal is terrible for a motorola, and the camera is not the best. but now the bootloader is unlocked so that opens the door to endless things. but it only has 1gb of ram, and the graphics processor is not the best
Then i looked at the Razr HD and thought, nice battery life! decent specs (although not far off from the M i am seeing?) camera is somewhat improved and unlockable bootloader..... bigger screen than the M....
Not the Droid DNA is catching my eye. Spec wise, look, feel, possible unlockable bootloader depending on SW version. Quad core seems fancy... etc etc.
So i am kind of torn. I have had at least 10 android phones in the past 3 years or so ( i worked for vzw for 6 years) and i always thought my OG, Droid X, Droid X2 have had excellent signal. That is really the most important....
So i guess my question is, if you were in my shoes, would you still pick the HD? or would you go a different route? any and all input is welcome, and i thank you in advance for your time. oh and camera reviews for the HD seem mixed on both the video and camera. my wife has the original MAXX, is it all the same?
Chad
Get the HD. Everything you listed that you want, the HD has.
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I'd imagine that, among those choices, the vote on a forum devoted to the Razr HD and the Razr Maxx HD would be pretty heavy for the Razr HD and the Razr Maxx HD, right? I've got a Maxx HD, rooted and unlocked bootloader, running mhous33's debloated stock ROM. Everything works, all the Verizon stuff is gone, the phone is smooth and fast. It's not perfect, though. I have continued problems getting and keeping a GPS lock. One day it works fine -- the next it's sure I'm 100 miles away. But the camera works, video camera works, HDR camera mode works, Bluetooth works, signal strength is fine.
Overall, though, for me, the combination of a good-sized screen, a relatively light weight and small size (given the screen size) plus a solid build quality and AMAZING battery life make the Maxx HD my DD for the foreseeable future.
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I'd imagine that, among those choices, the vote on a forum devoted to the Razr HD and the Razr Maxx HD would be pretty heavy for the Razr HD and the Razr Maxx HD, right? I've got a Maxx HD, rooted and unlocked bootloader, running mhous33's debloated stock ROM. Everything works, all the Verizon stuff is gone, the phone is smooth and fast. It's not perfect, though. I have continued problems getting and keeping a GPS lock. One day it works fine -- the next it's sure I'm 100 miles away. But the camera works, video camera works, HDR camera mode works, Bluetooth works, signal strength is fine.
Overall, though, for me, the combination of a good-sized screen, a relatively light weight and small size (given the screen size) plus a solid build quality and AMAZING battery life make the Maxx HD my DD for the foreseeable future.
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I don't have the MAXX and I'm not rooted or unlocked BL YET, but agreed with everything else it's my favorite out of the other obvious choices for phones.
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I am getting the itch for a new phone, and i am stuck between 3 phones, and i need some real world input.
I currently have the S3, rooted, unlocked on CM 10.1. I am unhappy with a few things, such as poor signal strength, data drops (on both stock touchwiz and CM) and poor battery life....
The main things i look for when i get a phone are signal strength....being able to get as close to pure android as possible (whether stock or running custom), run wireless tether (for free) and the ability to play decent games (nothing crazy) and run things without the phone locking up.... also, camera is nice as i have two young kids, and i want to take "good" shots, not expecting DSLR quality, and "good" video.....
So i thought to myself, i like the feel of the Razr M, it's almost the perfect size for me. But i hear the signal is terrible for a motorola, and the camera is not the best. but now the bootloader is unlocked so that opens the door to endless things. but it only has 1gb of ram, and the graphics processor is not the best
Then i looked at the Razr HD and thought, nice battery life! decent specs (although not far off from the M i am seeing?) camera is somewhat improved and unlockable bootloader..... bigger screen than the M....
Not the Droid DNA is catching my eye. Spec wise, look, feel, possible unlockable bootloader depending on SW version. Quad core seems fancy... etc etc.
So i am kind of torn. I have had at least 10 android phones in the past 3 years or so ( i worked for vzw for 6 years) and i always thought my OG, Droid X, Droid X2 have had excellent signal. That is really the most important....
So i guess my question is, if you were in my shoes, would you still pick the HD? or would you go a different route? any and all input is welcome, and i thank you in advance for your time. oh and camera reviews for the HD seem mixed on both the video and camera. my wife has the original MAXX, is it all the same?
Chad
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I own an razr hd, i chose this phone after losing my galaxy s2.
I have managed to unlock bootloader and root my device I run my own custom firmware (deleted some useless stuff and enhanced some others)
I think this phone has good battery-life, the camera is decent, wifi sometimes is buggy and gps work fine,
the thing I'm a bit disappointed is the screen pixels seems a bit lowquality, but looking at all the specs this phone is gonna last at least some years
before I will turn to something new
I was in the same boat. I still have my S3 but just use it for a WiFi Toy about all it's good for. The signal just was terrible on it in weak areas.
I got my HD on ebay and love it so far. It outdoes the S3 in many ways.
The only thing I miss on the S3 is the camera, but the MAXX HD does good enough.
Would be a very smart move.
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I was in the same boat. I still have my S3 but just use it for a WiFi Toy about all it's good for. The signal just was terrible on it in weak areas.
I got my HD on ebay and love it so far. It outdoes the S3 in many ways.
The only thing I miss on the S3 is the camera, but the MAXX HD does good enough.
Would be a very smart move.
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Yes the camera does suck on the Razr HD. I came from a GNex and even though that phone only has a 5MP camera, it was WAAYYY better than the HD. The HD seems to do good video though. Signal strength is also noticeably better in weak areas. I could never get 4G outside my house on my GNex. Now I get 4G INSIDE my house.
Camera is really really really bad...
worst focussing i ever had on a cellphone, quality not that good, contrast and colors seem worn out.
The rest of the Phone is awesome. Good Performance, really good signal, resistant, good batterylife. Perfect Phone
But if you would like to take snapshots of your children and your family, as a good memory, dont use this Phone. Even in normal daylight my phone got problems making a good, focussed picture, with nice and natural colours.
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Camera is really really really bad...
worst focussing i ever had on a cellphone, quality not that good, contrast and colors seem worn out.
The rest of the Phone is awesome. Good Performance, really good signal, resistant, good batterylife. Perfect Phone
But if you would like to take snapshots of your children and your family, as a good memory, dont use this Phone. Even in normal daylight my phone got problems making a good, focussed picture, with nice and natural colours.
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I don't get what all the complaining is with the Razr hd /maxx camera. I've had this phone for two months now after a galaxy nexus. Sure you can't blast pictures as fast as the gnex but the HDR mode is great. Plus if you like taking photos, the Maxx is gonna have the battery life to get the job done and then some.
I was so frustrated with needing to carry extra batteries and charging sticks in my pocket and bag, not to mention remembering to charge them all.
Now my phone works worry free and only needs charging every TWO days.
Gaming is also great. The benchmarks on these phones aren't too shabby either.
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More pics. The only thing is though man, you'd be getting a phone that's getting close to a year old. I guess selling it for a gs4 or X phone is always an option later?
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jfriend33 said:
I don't get what all the complaining is with the Razr hd /maxx camera. I've had this phone for two months now after a galaxy nexus. Sure you can't blast pictures as fast as the gnex but the HDR mode is great. Plus if you like taking photos, the Maxx is gonna have the battery life to get the job done and then some.
I was so frustrated with needing to carry extra batteries and charging sticks in my pocket and bag, not to mention remembering to charge them all.
Now my phone works worry free and only needs charging every TWO days.
Gaming is also great. The benchmarks on these phones aren't too shabby either.
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Here are some pictures which i took, showing the usual quality i get. Of course i sometimes have good pics, like the ones you posted.
But the average quality is, imho not that good.
Rest of the Phone is more then awesome, eventhough benchmarks on stock are not good, overall feeling is great.
But maybe waiting for the next Motorola Phone Generation would be better for you.
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Wow your pictures looked really washed out. Try tweaking the exposure, or using HDR mode already I take it?
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I also would like to stress the significant improvement in reception with the change from my galaxy nexus. Motorola is known for a killer radio. I'm getting better reception in the boonies even. This is also great for power management.
On that note the acclaimed galaxy S4 is supposed to have superior power management.
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