Its a bit of a shocker to me that BlackBerry is giving away its infamous messenger to andoid users for free
Are they shutting down blackberry ??
Would whatsappuser switch to bbm?
http://bb10unlock.com/blackberry-announces-bbm-for-android-and-ios/
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aashishbhargav said:
Its a bit of a shocker to me that BlackBerry is giving away its infamous messenger to andoid users for free
Are they shutting down blackberry ??
Would whatsappuser switch to bbm?
http://bb10unlock.com/blackberry-announces-bbm-for-android-and-ios/
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It's just to offer more enterprise level services to all devices to stay in the race.
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It's just to offer more enterprise level services to all devices to stay in the race.
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But how would it help them sell more blackberries?
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But how would it help them sell more blackberries?
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It's not to sell their product, but their services, they already offer a BYOD implementation across all devices, so if they also offer unified communication they will sell more server products.
EDIT: I didn't mean products at the beginning, I meant devices. They know they can't force people to use their devices, so they cater to the rest of them.
aashishbhargav said:
Its a bit of a shocker to me that BlackBerry is giving away its infamous messenger to andoid users for free
Are they shutting down blackberry ??
Would whatsappuser switch to bbm?
http://bb10unlock.com/blackberry-announces-bbm-for-android-and-ios/
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hah.! yea i heard about the news.....awful thing done by blackberry and I guess the company has no choice then to sell it......
and yea a whats app user will definitely switch to bbm
Interesting... This could also potentially backfire for Blackberry. People who kept a blackberry purely because of the messenger (they exist, I know two...) might be more inclined to switch to Android or ios because of this.
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Would whatsappuser switch to bbm?
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Let's see, a free messenger versus an only-free-for-a-year messenger... Possibly, yes.
Especially if they go through with that rumoured service costs increase.
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I honestly can't imagine that that much people would jump ship simply because BBM is available on another platform. I mean, honestly, as wonderful as BBM may be, it's only really useful to users right now when messaging friend with blackberries. Alternatively I suppose they use whatsapp or whatever. Chances are now that BBM would be made cross platform, original blackberry users will be able to communicate will everyone without the need for alternate apps. While some may take the opportunity to try out iOS or Android I believe some genuinely love they blackberries... and to be honest, the new OS doesn't seem half bad.
Blackberry must be giving up
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Interesting... This could also potentially backfire for Blackberry. People who kept a blackberry purely because of the messenger (they exist, I know two...) might be more inclined to switch to Android or ios because of this.
Let's see, a free messenger versus an only-free-for-a-year messenger... Possibly, yes.
Especially if they go through with that rumoured service costs increase.
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Yes, that's exactly what I thought. Rightly put in the link I shared too..
It was their USP. But bb this otherwise now. So, now they must be counting on their new os n touch to continue selling expensive z10 n q10
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They just killed whatsapp and upcoming Babel?
Owner of whatsapp must be kicking himself right now for now about the $1B deal that never happened?
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Honestly, I don't think a BBM app on iOS and Android will make much impact. First of all, Whats App and those other messaging apps have a huge first mover advantage, and have loyal followers already. BBM was great because everyone was using Blackberry phones back in the day. There was nothing amazing about the app itself.
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Honestly, I don't think a BBM app on iOS and Android will make much impact. First of all, Whats App and those other messaging apps have a huge first mover advantage, and have loyal followers already. BBM was great because everyone was using Blackberry phones back in the day. There was nothing amazing about the app itself.
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But whatsapp got popular only because there weren't cross platform apps available like bbm. Plus, whatsapp isn't free. It charges $1 per year.
Other apps suck. Ad-supported and in app purchase of stickers? Everyone uses Skype but not everyone is online because of battery drain. Google talk also suck. And there's Google voice. Only competitor left is viber, which offers desktop app but no video calls yet.
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Let's see, a free messenger versus an only-free-for-a-year messenger... Possibly, yes.
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Backup whatsapp , delete and reinstall and there u have + 1 year xD
Im using it for allmost 2 years and i didnt have to pay any penny for it xD
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But whatsapp got popular only because there weren't cross platform apps available like bbm. Plus, whatsapp isn't free. It charges $1 per year.
Other apps suck. Ad-supported and in app purchase of stickers? Everyone uses Skype but not everyone is online because of battery drain. Google talk also suck. And there's Google voice. Only competitor left is viber, which offers desktop app but no video calls yet.
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Whatsapp has been dramatically increasing the free usage period for the users. I dont know when are they going to charge. This happened to everyone I know in India at least.
They started with paid download for iPhone but later removed the price tag.
Recent news is that whatsapp is in talking terms with Cellular networks in India to keep the service add free. So usage cost would not be a factor here. It would be the usability factor. User experience and Features.
BBM has an edge with voice dialling, but at the same time whatsapp banks upon the feature that allows phone numbers from contacts to automatically appear in the contact list of whatsapp + video sharing + location sharing is easy.
BBM is by far the most privacy protecting software as the only people chatting with you are the ones who know your pin. + pin approval
bb10unlock.com/blackberry-announces-bbm-for-android-and-ios/
I would definitely switch to BBM
Im just surprised thay none of the devs here have managed to port bbm over already I would of thought thatbwould of been a good idea
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I certainly won't be making the switch to use BBM. I'm happy enough using whatsapp and always have been.
As the old saying goes "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
It seems like an interesting move certainly. Here in my part of Canada, the BB was the phone of choice until the iPhone 4 came out on the local network. Some people still buy Blackberry because of BBM, but now it seems like that selling point is gone. They certainly needed to advertise the new BBs here more because I think that would have a lot of people migrating back.
bbm is the best os in mobile before, but they product device so slowly to loss lots of fans.
and now no one can make that great project to defeat android or ios, even microsoft's windows phone
BBM < whatsapp. Only 1 reason i throw my bb, a ton of annoying broadcast messenger.
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Hi all,
I've been a both android and iPhone user. And for now I've switched back to android for Galaxy S3 because it has much bigger screen and wanna try how fast it is. However, it's my feeling I think not quite different from 4S, even 4S can respond fast in every game and application compared to galaxy. I don't know why... just feel like that during the time I use it.
One more thing is that I wonder why almost every game or application under the same name from iPhone, got available ahead of android and most of them have much more features and quality than android as well, eg., asphalt 7....
Sometimes, I feel so sad about this...
So I am waiting to read about all of your opinions on this matter...
Thanks,
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I don't understand what you are trying to say. Are you comparing
the S3 & 4s or Android v appl. ????
hollow1 said:
One more thing is that I wonder why almost every game or application under the same name from iPhone, got available ahead of android and most of them have much more features and quality than android as well, eg., asphalt 7....
Sometimes, I feel so sad about this...
So I am waiting to read about all of your opinions on this matter...
Thanks,
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It's because of the I in front of it. Apple have hacked the Android Play Store to check an online database of Iphone Apps, and if any developer tries to put an app on the Play store, the Apple Virus checks if the same app is already available for the Iphone. If it's not, it will delay the Android app in Stealth mode, and send the sourcecode to Apple. Apple will then convert the app for IOS, put an I in front of the name, and release it for Iphone. As soon as they do, the name with the I in front of it gets transferred to the remote database, signaling the Apple virus that this particular app is now available on Iphone, and it's safe to come out of Stealth mode and release the app into the Play Store, but upon release, the virus cuts out 2 or 3 random features. They did this so they can claim that they always have apps faster then Android, and with more features. Now you know.
Apple has a very limited set of devices which they have to support in their OS. Thus much more optimization can be done to "smooth" such things. That said, I find JB with Project Butter quite impressive in this regard.
But with owning a non-Nexus Samsung device you are not in the best hands regarding non-bloated and smooth firmwares.
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It's because of the I in front of it. Apple have hacked the Android Play Store to check an online database of Iphone Apps, and if any developer tries to put an app on the Play store, the Apple Virus checks if the same app is already available for the Iphone. If it's not, it will delay the Android app in Stealth mode, and send the sourcecode to Apple. Apple will then convert the app for IOS, put an I in front of the name, and release it for Iphone. As soon as they do, the name with the I in front of it gets transferred to the remote database, signaling the Apple virus that this particular app is now available on Iphone, and it's safe to come out of Stealth mode and release the app into the Play Store, but upon release, the virus cuts out 2 or 3 random features. They did this so they can claim that they always have apps faster then Android, and with more features. Now you know.
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What you said seem a very big concern between them. Excuse me, but Where you get the information from?
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I don't understand what you are trying to say. Are you comparing
the S3 & 4s or Android v appl. ????
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Can be both.. if you can share your idea between tthis two.
EiRoGGe said:
Apple has a very limited set of devices which they have to support in their OS. Thus much more optimization can be done to "smooth" such things. That said, I find JB with Project Butter quite impressive in this regard.
But with owning a non-Nexus Samsung device you are not in the best hands regarding non-bloated and smooth firmwares.
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Hmm, like what you said I should go to one "smooth" is better then holding many types of devices which is good only in shapes and spec but doesn't have quality. I still don't know how Google encourage their 3rd party devs to make one good app or game for android. As to hacker307 said seem play store is a cow-don't fix.
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What you said seem a very big concern between them. Excuse me, but Where you get the information from?
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I regularly eat apples. Sometimes they tell me stuff.
Apple has far better system integration with their line of products. A good example is the iPhone 4S which has inferior spec compared with similar priced Android phones, but still it runs much more smooth than most of the android phone. Because every iPhone 4S is exactly the same, so software developer knows exactly how their software will perform on those units, and hence much more easier to optimize performance.
As to why iOS games is always ahead of Android, I believe that has a lot to do with the eco system of AppStore and Google Play respectively. iOS is more profitable than Google, but that is just my guess.
I can't understand what u have found about this two devices. I own an ipod 4th gen and I can say that my galaxy s plus is faster. I know iphone is the most beautiful but not the best at specs... I am sorry my friend. Also about the hacking is correct...
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As to why iOS games is always ahead of Android, I believe that has a lot to do with the eco system of AppStore and Google Play respectively. iOS is more profitable than Google, but that is just my guess.
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I think you are right, that is the reason. Dev`s tend to develop apps/games to get the most profit first.
I believe that all apple devices are pretty much the same since the first one so so application's can be made more quickly and easily. But android phones are made by different companies using different hardware so harder for developers
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hmm, pretty hard...I don't know should I replace my S3 with the next iPhone 5 or not...
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Theoretically speaking, is it possible to get blackberry messenger on an android
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No its not because it works with a pin which is connected to a blackberry device. So the only way it will ever be able to work on here is if rim decides to work together with android on it.
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Theoretically speaking, is it possible to get blackberry messenger on an android
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No because each user is authenticated by a PIN, hardware ID, etc, and all BB data traffic goes through Blackberry's servers. Plus, there are needed encryption/decryption keys because BB Messenger messages are all encrypted.
That's what I was thinking too, however, if you were to modify the hardware of an android would it be possible.
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That's what I was thinking too, however, if you were to modify the hardware of an android would it be possible.
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It's nearly impossible to forge a cryptographic key.
I guess my question is why would you wany bbm on your droid?
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Idk really, I have an android but a lot of my friends communicate via BBM however blackberry's are pretty crap phones so I was thinking about whether or not it is possible.
Elite Choob said:
Idk really, I have an android but a lot of my friends communicate via BBM however blackberry's are pretty crap phones so I was thinking about whether or not it is possible.
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Tell your friends to download Whatsapp. Everyone's happy
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Tell your friends to download Whatsapp. Everyone's happy
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fair point but it's just not the same.
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fair point but it's just not the same.
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You're right.
Whatsapp is better.
It's available on every platform (seriously, EVERY platform, even Symbian and Windows Phone). It does multimedia transfer and group messaging. What more could you want? You get a year free, and you can buy a lifetime license or just pay a dollar a year (which is about 8 cents a month).
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You're right.
Whatsapp is better.
It's available on every platform (seriously, EVERY platform, even Symbian and Windows Phone). It does multimedia transfer and group messaging. What more could you want? You get a year free, and you can buy a lifetime license or just pay a dollar a year (which is about 8 cents a month).
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You're right lol, whatsapp is significantly BBM but it truly just isnt the same sort of raw system as BBM, also I doubt I'm going to be able to convince all my friends to just stop using BBM and start using whatsapps
you just need to tell your friends to be open minded. i came from a bb but had whatsapp seeing nearly everyone have android/iphone. i never really got the bbm obsession though. it's just msn messenger for your phone is what i always thought.. haha
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you just need to tell your friends to be open minded. i came from a bb but had whatsapp seeing nearly everyone have android/iphone. i never really got the bbm obsession though. it's just msn messenger for your phone is what i always thought.. haha
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It basically is MSN on the phone lol, but the majority of them don't really see the point in using whatsapp if they have BBM
Show off with your Android. i.e, customize your home screen, make it look 'sick'. Customize your app drawer with an icon pack and a new font. If you have the ability, Changd the boot animation & sound.
If you're really experienced use new roms/kernels, make it zappy fast when multi tasking. Damn, even through in a dual boot if you like.
These friends should realise how pOOp BB's are then switch. I got my friends away from CrApple.
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Nowadays so much application such as Whatsapp,Line, wechat kakaotalk. all of these messengers support to blackberry platform too. So you can have a chat with your friend who use one of this application in blackberry.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.digitaldynamics.messengerbb
Quick Google play search...I'm sure there are others.
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It basically is MSN on the phone lol, but the majority of them don't really see the point in using whatsapp if they have BBM
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hmm your friends are being silly. they dont even have to add you, you're there already 'cause its phone number based! silly sausages :angel:
To be fair though, their friends, some of whom I don't know also use BBM to communicate with them so I can't possibly convince the whole world to transition from BBM to android.
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To be fair though, their friends, some of whom I don't know also use BBM to communicate with them so I can't possibly convince the whole world to transition from BBM to android.
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Whatsapp is on:
- iOS
- Android
- Windows Phone
- Symbian (mostly Nokias)
- Bada
No need to switch phones.
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blackberry promised android users that the BBM app will be ready to download and use on the last month (june) ...the month is finished and no thing nor an apk niether on play store ....so am asking u does anyone knows if it was just a lie or it will be available soon 
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Who really cares? We have much better messaging apps than BBM, but if you really want to know the answer then go and ask BlackBerry.
Well, I have a bunch of friends who still use Blackberry, and I've used a Blackberry myself in the past. I still think it is one of the best messaging programs out there. I've read that the app is currently in the process of being verified and approved by Apple and Google, and it will be out sometime this summer, so within the next 2 months, most likely.
Looks like Nokia has given up:laugh: they sold out to Microsoft but microsoft is gonna have to come really good to beat Android OS
What features do you think should be implemented for you to switch?
No way Nokia is dead as ...
.....dead...so is wp
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nothing can force me to swich from android to another os
but i like all the open source operating systems like ubuntu touch and fire os but android is best
Hell no! I used lumia 850 and i used it for a while till the screen broke, surprisingly, i was so happy.
Never gone back since.
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i used lumia 610 at first windows phone is like ooohh:highfive: but a good look at the features then AWW just like Trident gum lol:laugh:
it feels like you partially own the phone no file manager no privacy it sucks
i cant see a reason to leave android for a microsoft phone, i just see alot of regulations and locks like the iphone.
no reason
i dont see any reason to leave android for microsft.....
This will make a good Hollywood corporate thriller. think it took years to plan.
First - Microsoft wants foothold in hardware in mobile division.so it needs to takeover some good mobile company in peanuts amount.
Second - placing a mole/trojan Elop in Nokia, who rejects Meego,Android.So that Nokia would run into losses,devaluing it.
Third- Nokia finds it difficult to survive due to those nefarious decisions.
Fourth - Microsoft offers to buy Nokia (acting as savior) that too at such a hilarious price (as planned before.)
Fifth - Mission Accomplished!!!
Oops i forgot about the Qs...NO WAY..i wont leave anything (android/Sailfish/Ubuntu/Firefox/ bla bla) for a Microsoft stuff
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This will make a good Hollywood corporate thriller. think it took years to plan.
First - Microsoft wants foothold in hardware in mobile division.so it needs to takeover some good mobile company in peanuts amount.
Second - placing a mole/trojan Elop in Nokia, who rejects Meego,Android.So that Nokia would run into losses,devaluing it.
Third- Nokia finds it difficult to survive due to those nefarious decisions.
Fourth - Microsoft offers to buy Nokia (acting as savior) that too at such a hilarious price (as planned before.)
Fifth - Mission Accomplished!!!
Oops i forgot about the Qs...NO WAY..i wont leave anything (android/Sailfish/Ubuntu/Firefox/ bla bla) for a Microsoft stuff
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Very true! The nokia lumia 820 that i owned was a hardware marvel. The only problem was that it ran on a lousy windows software.
Some of its bad features were:
1. The os directories were perfectly hidden. You couldnt tweak anything!!!
2. The apps were limited in features. 3. Some features that are taken for granted in android could not be seen anywhere.
Eg. Screen rotation.
4. There wasnt a single file browser (microsoft or 3rd party).
5. The marketplace was full of paid softwares that isnt worth ****.
6. Where's my google apps???!!!
7. Beauty cant compare with brains.
8. Copied text kept disappearing after some time.
9. Wheres my firefox?
10. Internal memory made a fuss if i ever added too many apps.
11. I kept dreaming about installing jellybean over it.
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Hmm, I think I'll stay with android. Have a few friends with windows phone, and I don't really see something special from window phone (yet)
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I'd like to try a windows phone, though they probably aren't that good compared to android, change is good from time to time, different taste
I would rather switch to iOS. At least it has native apps and you can jb. Oy also it has a huge app ecosystem. None of these apply to WP8
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now why would i do that?? i love android, the customizabilty and the fact that it's open source.. and even if windows release something similar, i don't think i would make that change.. not that i'm not open minded but i have tried a LOT of different platforms and android was the only one i really got comfy with...
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Hmm, I think I'll stay with android. Have a few friends with windows phone, and I don't really see something special from window phone (yet)
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I agree with the you
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I had a Lumia 920 for a while, nice phone and the OS is not bad, however I soon missed android and had to go back. Still use a Lumia 820 for work though.
I don't think I would switch, the customizability and flexibility of Android is simply amazing
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I voted "No"..
But I think microsoft would make a huge move after this.
Let's just wait a couple of months more.. :laugh:
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I voted "No"..
But I think microsoft would make a huge move after this.
Let's just wait a couple of months more.. :laugh:
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Agreed, a mix of apple like tactics plus VS2013. Also imagine if you could plug your phone to your TV and get a full Windows RT desktop. Of course Microsoft would have to ditch the "Store only apps" policy. I would buy it in a heartbeat though
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There's so much fun in using Android, that it consumes too much of my time playing the cell phone.
Maybe it's not bad to change to WP so that you leave you phone alone.
If it run's Linux, It's a keeper. Stay far away from Microsoft if you can.
I've been an Android user for the best part of 5 years, seeing a steady improvement of OS and supporting apps. While the Galaxy Range has got better and better.
I'm currently using a Galaxy S4, but for whatever reason i'm being drawn towards the Nokia Lumia 1020. My partner wants one because "it's a Nokia" while I'm interested because of the Camera. I'm a DSLR user so this isn't for instagramin' me breakfast, it's to capture great photos at concerts and videos and general stuff which I plan to blog up. My other reasoning is I'm very fond of my Surface Pro, which is again a Windows device and I can't put it down, so am I mad? Will having a Windows phone have any real benefit with a Surface?
My greatest concern is the store that is less than lacking from my initial research with what i'd call basic apps are missing, youtube, twitter to name but a few. This concerns me, but being a window phone n00b you smart people maybe able to enlighten me to alternative options which don't come from the origin of the app.
I suppose what I'm really asking is did you switch from an Android and what did you miss and what can you not live without since you switched.
My current plan is to get a 1020, tether it to my surface and use windows 8 pro instead of apps on the phone and use the phone for texts calls and the camera.
Any and all help welcome.
My concern also are the lack off apps on windows phones vs the enormous google play store.
But those apps you mentioned as an example (youtube, twitter) are available. Just as facebook, skype, wordfeud etc are.
I dont have a windows phone, but these apps are listed when I search the windows phone app store online.
Most are not from the website makers with some being rubbish or nothing more than a front end to the mobile version. This is one of my concerns as a lot are not very good or cost money and still aren't very good.
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Most are not from the website makers with some being rubbish or nothing more than a front end to the mobile version. This is one of my concerns as a lot are not very good or cost money and still aren't very good.
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Twitter is baked into the OS, but there is an official version (at least there is for WP 7.8). There are a number of third party apps for things like Youtube and Instagram that are a lot better than you'd think. Try Metrotube or Supertube apps for Youtube.