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I am just starting to develop apps for android and was looking at getting a dev account. My biggest reason at this moment to get one would be to buy a google dev phone, as there is no way im posting my "Hello World" app up on the market. My question is what is the current google dev phone and is it like any phones that are currently out. I know it used to be the nexus one but they received their last shipments of these almost 8 months ago.
Any help would be great!
Thanks
I'm a registered developer and google offers the nexus one as developer phone (530$ as I remember). If you'd like you can buy the Nexus S which is in the same price. What's the difference between these two phones and any other android phones? Maybe the faster updates, and the support
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Hope you guys have patient to answer them.
First, I had an iPhone, an Android and now I have a WP7. I alway have two phones, and just sould my iPhone so I need another one. I was thinking about a Nexus S, but I want to try WebOS.
My questions:
I know HP bought Palm. They didn't released any phone until now, right? Are they working on WebOS update? Will it be released to palms handsets? I don't want to buy a phone today and tomorrow they release a new version to new phones and forget about me.
Apps? There is not Kik, WhatsApp, IM+ or whatever, right? I use a lot Google Talk and Kik to chat, and Facebook. There is any GTalk client? Facebook?
Do you guys recommend it? I know that, 99.99% of times, when you own a gadget, you have a bias for it. Being honest, I love WP7, but is flaw is apps. At least, in my opinion.
And.. which is the best hardware right now?
Unfortunately, Palm didn't sell phones in Brazil, so I have to buy one from USA. There is any unlock way like iPhone or already unlocked phones?
Thank you guys!
All current webOS phones will continue to be supported by HP, with the exception of legacy devices (palm pixi/plus, palm pre/plus, and I believe pre 2 I'm not sure though). As far as apps go, their are some great apps, the typical price is a little more expensive than android apps but not as expensive as blackberry apps. I would recommend getting a veer if you can deal with the size, if not then get a pre 3 (not sure if its out yet, lol, if not then get the pre 2). I have the palm pixi plus for Verizon and I love it, it only cost me $70 plus the touchstone back and charger on amazon.
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I know the palm pre/pre plus/pixi will not receive any more updates, but all new phones released by hp will. I am not sure about the pre 2.
If I were you I would wait till the pre 3 is released on at&t and see if you can unlock it. If you can't wait, check out reviews of the at&t hp veer. It is extremely tiny though.
Webos is my favorite operating system to use. I have used webos, android, blackberry and ios.
Google talk is built in to the messaging app on Webos. There are ways to integrate facebook chat as well.
Check out precentral.net
They have answers for everything involving webos. You will definitely get more help there.
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I would wait until Palm releases the Touchpad & the Pre3 - Hopefully, they will then "go global". Don't try buying one from the US! If you must, buy it from the UK - HP UK sells contract-less phones (I bought mine there).
There are many problems owning a Pre2 (as I do) outside the "official" countries. No access to paid apps mainly. Although I don't complain that much - I have what I need from free apps.
There is a version of IM+ available by the way. Facebook app comes standard. No GPS navigation except for Google Maps, but that requires you to be on line all the time while using it.
The operating system is SUPERB. The best I've ever used. Nothing comes close. It's super intuitive and FAST.
The phone itself is really nice to handle. I love the fact that it is smaller than most phones, and the hardware keyboard is wonderful.
One minus for the lack of autofocus in the rear camera, but you wouldn't use your phone for "serious" photography anyway.
Good luck!
mikeeam said:
I know HP bought Palm. They didn't released any phone until now, right? Are they working on WebOS update? Will it be released to palms handsets? I don't want to buy a phone today and tomorrow they release a new version to new phones and forget about me.
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The first HP webOS phone was release last month, the Veer. webOS 3.0 is coming and will be on the Veer. WebOS 3.0 won't be on the Pre, Pre+, Pixi, or Pixi+. I don't know about the Pre 2.
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Apps? There is not Kik, WhatsApp, IM+ or whatever, right? I use a lot Google Talk and Kik to chat, and Facebook. There is any GTalk client? Facebook?
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There's no Kik or WhatsApp, but there is IM+ in the App Catalogue. Google Talk is built in to the default Messaging app. There is a Facebook app built-in as well, but it doesn't have Facebook chat. You can use Facebook chat with other apps.
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Do you guys recommend it?
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Definitely. Like you, I have two phones. I have a 2 year old Pre, and a 6 month old Desire Z. I much prefer the pre, even though the newer phone was supposed to be better.
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And.. which is the best hardware right now?
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Either the Veer or Pre 2. The Pre 3 is coming within a couple of months though, you might want to wait for that.
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Unfortunately, Palm didn't sell phones in Brazil, so I have to buy one from USA. There is any unlock way like iPhone or already unlocked phones?
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I know how you feel, they don't sell them in my country either (Australia). There is definitely ways to unlock them, and I think already unlocked ones too. Before buying one, make sure that you can get a credit card from one of the supported countries. The App Catalogue will only support payment with a credit card from those countries. Read this for full information: http://forums.precentral.net/worldwide-gsm-cdma/268775-official-app-catalog-geo-restrictions.html
and this: http://forums.precentral.net/palm-p...n-about-gsm-umts-frequencies.html#post2578597
Thank you so much.
I'll think about it, cause I really want to try it out. If not now, I'll wait HP here in Brazil. They've said that it will be here soon.
Loved the part about built-in google talk ;D
Thanks!
Both Aim and Google Chat are baked into the stock messaging app for the OS. They have no integration for Facebook chat, but there are some workarounds and it is coming to the touchpad (I would imagine it would come to the pre3 as well).
There isn't a ton in the way of apps on the market, but almost all of the basics are covered. If you want more than what is in the market, you can use preware and keep an eye on the beta feeds.
They do currently sell an unlocked Pre2 if you don't want to wait and see if they will sell an unlocked pre3.
Overall, it is a great OS.
You might have to wait a little to get the unlocked version of the phone. They do that in the States to get you to sign up for a contract on launch.
You can use Agile Messenger is like a All-in-one but sometimes is slow.
Hi Guys,
I use both Blackberry (z10) and Android (GS+) for my daily use. I have also a BB Playbook and Nexus 7. Don't get me wrong, I love my android apps and that's why I use it every day, but I also like to use them my BB.
It's very easy to convert android apps, repackage and submit them to AppWorld, why android devs don't do that? I mean, it's good for them, they can earn money and it requires very less time. Is this because most of them are not aware that BB has android runtime or don't they believe that there are many BB users?
Please do not write hateful speeches if you're speaking as a user (not developer) and I use BB because it's my choice. But I really like to use my favorite android apps. I heard BB has a very good dev support these days and I wonder why devs do not take of this advantage.
I know that many BB android apps are crap and I really want to see quality apps being ported to BB10 and Playbook. I personally convert them online and sideload them myself if it works on my device but if devs submit it on AppWorld themselves, I'd love to pay for quality apps and use them.
So, what do you think guys? What's holding android devs from repackaging their apps to BB10 or Playbook?
P.S. They're planning to upgrade Android runtime to Jelly Bean, it should increase app performances and quality, I guess. I just read an article about android apps on BB on zdnet and found it interesting.
Its because most don't develope for an OS they don't use. Add in that BB is not long for the world and there is almost no point. Not to mention android is easier as it open source.
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I'm sorry maybe this is out of topic. But is there any chance you would let us know how to convert it?
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I heard that all developers have to do is change a few lines of code... That's not bad to Me. But I don't dev
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Android emulator on BB10 is laggy and still use 2.3 Gingerbread. And I heard not all function can be ported.
That would be something else if they could do that. I doubt that they will though.
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Theoretically speaking, is it possible to get blackberry messenger on an android
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No its not because it works with a pin which is connected to a blackberry device. So the only way it will ever be able to work on here is if rim decides to work together with android on it.
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Elite Choob said:
Theoretically speaking, is it possible to get blackberry messenger on an android
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No because each user is authenticated by a PIN, hardware ID, etc, and all BB data traffic goes through Blackberry's servers. Plus, there are needed encryption/decryption keys because BB Messenger messages are all encrypted.
That's what I was thinking too, however, if you were to modify the hardware of an android would it be possible.
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That's what I was thinking too, however, if you were to modify the hardware of an android would it be possible.
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It's nearly impossible to forge a cryptographic key.
I guess my question is why would you wany bbm on your droid?
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Idk really, I have an android but a lot of my friends communicate via BBM however blackberry's are pretty crap phones so I was thinking about whether or not it is possible.
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Idk really, I have an android but a lot of my friends communicate via BBM however blackberry's are pretty crap phones so I was thinking about whether or not it is possible.
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Tell your friends to download Whatsapp. Everyone's happy
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jonniboi1985 said:
Tell your friends to download Whatsapp. Everyone's happy
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fair point but it's just not the same.
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fair point but it's just not the same.
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You're right.
Whatsapp is better.
It's available on every platform (seriously, EVERY platform, even Symbian and Windows Phone). It does multimedia transfer and group messaging. What more could you want? You get a year free, and you can buy a lifetime license or just pay a dollar a year (which is about 8 cents a month).
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You're right.
Whatsapp is better.
It's available on every platform (seriously, EVERY platform, even Symbian and Windows Phone). It does multimedia transfer and group messaging. What more could you want? You get a year free, and you can buy a lifetime license or just pay a dollar a year (which is about 8 cents a month).
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You're right lol, whatsapp is significantly BBM but it truly just isnt the same sort of raw system as BBM, also I doubt I'm going to be able to convince all my friends to just stop using BBM and start using whatsapps
you just need to tell your friends to be open minded. i came from a bb but had whatsapp seeing nearly everyone have android/iphone. i never really got the bbm obsession though. it's just msn messenger for your phone is what i always thought.. haha
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you just need to tell your friends to be open minded. i came from a bb but had whatsapp seeing nearly everyone have android/iphone. i never really got the bbm obsession though. it's just msn messenger for your phone is what i always thought.. haha
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It basically is MSN on the phone lol, but the majority of them don't really see the point in using whatsapp if they have BBM
Show off with your Android. i.e, customize your home screen, make it look 'sick'. Customize your app drawer with an icon pack and a new font. If you have the ability, Changd the boot animation & sound.
If you're really experienced use new roms/kernels, make it zappy fast when multi tasking. Damn, even through in a dual boot if you like.
These friends should realise how pOOp BB's are then switch. I got my friends away from CrApple.
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Nowadays so much application such as Whatsapp,Line, wechat kakaotalk. all of these messengers support to blackberry platform too. So you can have a chat with your friend who use one of this application in blackberry.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.digitaldynamics.messengerbb
Quick Google play search...I'm sure there are others.
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Elite Choob said:
It basically is MSN on the phone lol, but the majority of them don't really see the point in using whatsapp if they have BBM
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hmm your friends are being silly. they dont even have to add you, you're there already 'cause its phone number based! silly sausages :angel:
To be fair though, their friends, some of whom I don't know also use BBM to communicate with them so I can't possibly convince the whole world to transition from BBM to android.
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To be fair though, their friends, some of whom I don't know also use BBM to communicate with them so I can't possibly convince the whole world to transition from BBM to android.
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Whatsapp is on:
- iOS
- Android
- Windows Phone
- Symbian (mostly Nokias)
- Bada
No need to switch phones.
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Its a bit of a shocker to me that BlackBerry is giving away its infamous messenger to andoid users for free
Are they shutting down blackberry ??
Would whatsappuser switch to bbm?
http://bb10unlock.com/blackberry-announces-bbm-for-android-and-ios/
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aashishbhargav said:
Its a bit of a shocker to me that BlackBerry is giving away its infamous messenger to andoid users for free
Are they shutting down blackberry ??
Would whatsappuser switch to bbm?
http://bb10unlock.com/blackberry-announces-bbm-for-android-and-ios/
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It's just to offer more enterprise level services to all devices to stay in the race.
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It's just to offer more enterprise level services to all devices to stay in the race.
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But how would it help them sell more blackberries?
aashishbhargav said:
But how would it help them sell more blackberries?
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It's not to sell their product, but their services, they already offer a BYOD implementation across all devices, so if they also offer unified communication they will sell more server products.
EDIT: I didn't mean products at the beginning, I meant devices. They know they can't force people to use their devices, so they cater to the rest of them.
aashishbhargav said:
Its a bit of a shocker to me that BlackBerry is giving away its infamous messenger to andoid users for free
Are they shutting down blackberry ??
Would whatsappuser switch to bbm?
http://bb10unlock.com/blackberry-announces-bbm-for-android-and-ios/
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hah.! yea i heard about the news.....awful thing done by blackberry and I guess the company has no choice then to sell it......
and yea a whats app user will definitely switch to bbm
Interesting... This could also potentially backfire for Blackberry. People who kept a blackberry purely because of the messenger (they exist, I know two...) might be more inclined to switch to Android or ios because of this.
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Would whatsappuser switch to bbm?
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Let's see, a free messenger versus an only-free-for-a-year messenger... Possibly, yes.
Especially if they go through with that rumoured service costs increase.
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I honestly can't imagine that that much people would jump ship simply because BBM is available on another platform. I mean, honestly, as wonderful as BBM may be, it's only really useful to users right now when messaging friend with blackberries. Alternatively I suppose they use whatsapp or whatever. Chances are now that BBM would be made cross platform, original blackberry users will be able to communicate will everyone without the need for alternate apps. While some may take the opportunity to try out iOS or Android I believe some genuinely love they blackberries... and to be honest, the new OS doesn't seem half bad.
Blackberry must be giving up
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Interesting... This could also potentially backfire for Blackberry. People who kept a blackberry purely because of the messenger (they exist, I know two...) might be more inclined to switch to Android or ios because of this.
Let's see, a free messenger versus an only-free-for-a-year messenger... Possibly, yes.
Especially if they go through with that rumoured service costs increase.
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Yes, that's exactly what I thought. Rightly put in the link I shared too..
It was their USP. But bb this otherwise now. So, now they must be counting on their new os n touch to continue selling expensive z10 n q10
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They just killed whatsapp and upcoming Babel?
Owner of whatsapp must be kicking himself right now for now about the $1B deal that never happened?
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Honestly, I don't think a BBM app on iOS and Android will make much impact. First of all, Whats App and those other messaging apps have a huge first mover advantage, and have loyal followers already. BBM was great because everyone was using Blackberry phones back in the day. There was nothing amazing about the app itself.
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Honestly, I don't think a BBM app on iOS and Android will make much impact. First of all, Whats App and those other messaging apps have a huge first mover advantage, and have loyal followers already. BBM was great because everyone was using Blackberry phones back in the day. There was nothing amazing about the app itself.
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But whatsapp got popular only because there weren't cross platform apps available like bbm. Plus, whatsapp isn't free. It charges $1 per year.
Other apps suck. Ad-supported and in app purchase of stickers? Everyone uses Skype but not everyone is online because of battery drain. Google talk also suck. And there's Google voice. Only competitor left is viber, which offers desktop app but no video calls yet.
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Let's see, a free messenger versus an only-free-for-a-year messenger... Possibly, yes.
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Backup whatsapp , delete and reinstall and there u have + 1 year xD
Im using it for allmost 2 years and i didnt have to pay any penny for it xD
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But whatsapp got popular only because there weren't cross platform apps available like bbm. Plus, whatsapp isn't free. It charges $1 per year.
Other apps suck. Ad-supported and in app purchase of stickers? Everyone uses Skype but not everyone is online because of battery drain. Google talk also suck. And there's Google voice. Only competitor left is viber, which offers desktop app but no video calls yet.
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Whatsapp has been dramatically increasing the free usage period for the users. I dont know when are they going to charge. This happened to everyone I know in India at least.
They started with paid download for iPhone but later removed the price tag.
Recent news is that whatsapp is in talking terms with Cellular networks in India to keep the service add free. So usage cost would not be a factor here. It would be the usability factor. User experience and Features.
BBM has an edge with voice dialling, but at the same time whatsapp banks upon the feature that allows phone numbers from contacts to automatically appear in the contact list of whatsapp + video sharing + location sharing is easy.
BBM is by far the most privacy protecting software as the only people chatting with you are the ones who know your pin. + pin approval
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I would definitely switch to BBM
Im just surprised thay none of the devs here have managed to port bbm over already I would of thought thatbwould of been a good idea
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I certainly won't be making the switch to use BBM. I'm happy enough using whatsapp and always have been.
As the old saying goes "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
It seems like an interesting move certainly. Here in my part of Canada, the BB was the phone of choice until the iPhone 4 came out on the local network. Some people still buy Blackberry because of BBM, but now it seems like that selling point is gone. They certainly needed to advertise the new BBs here more because I think that would have a lot of people migrating back.
bbm is the best os in mobile before, but they product device so slowly to loss lots of fans.
and now no one can make that great project to defeat android or ios, even microsoft's windows phone
BBM < whatsapp. Only 1 reason i throw my bb, a ton of annoying broadcast messenger.
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