[Q] Why android developers do not convert their app to BB10/Playbook - General Questions and Answers

Hi Guys,
I use both Blackberry (z10) and Android (GS+) for my daily use. I have also a BB Playbook and Nexus 7. Don't get me wrong, I love my android apps and that's why I use it every day, but I also like to use them my BB.
It's very easy to convert android apps, repackage and submit them to AppWorld, why android devs don't do that? I mean, it's good for them, they can earn money and it requires very less time. Is this because most of them are not aware that BB has android runtime or don't they believe that there are many BB users?
Please do not write hateful speeches if you're speaking as a user (not developer) and I use BB because it's my choice. But I really like to use my favorite android apps. I heard BB has a very good dev support these days and I wonder why devs do not take of this advantage.
I know that many BB android apps are crap and I really want to see quality apps being ported to BB10 and Playbook. I personally convert them online and sideload them myself if it works on my device but if devs submit it on AppWorld themselves, I'd love to pay for quality apps and use them.
So, what do you think guys? What's holding android devs from repackaging their apps to BB10 or Playbook?
P.S. They're planning to upgrade Android runtime to Jelly Bean, it should increase app performances and quality, I guess. I just read an article about android apps on BB on zdnet and found it interesting.

Its because most don't develope for an OS they don't use. Add in that BB is not long for the world and there is almost no point. Not to mention android is easier as it open source.
Wayne Tech S-III

I'm sorry maybe this is out of topic. But is there any chance you would let us know how to convert it?
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I heard that all developers have to do is change a few lines of code... That's not bad to Me. But I don't dev
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Android emulator on BB10 is laggy and still use 2.3 Gingerbread. And I heard not all function can be ported.

That would be something else if they could do that. I doubt that they will though.
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[Q] [2 ALL DEVS] Any chance to see WebOS/iOS/WP7 on NS/NS4G?

With the UnBrickable Mod?
I read that webOs was ported to the Evo, and many mobile Os can be flashed on the HD2.
So, is possible to see other mobile Operating systems on our smartphone?
Share your experience, i wanna know about the incredible world of mobile operating systems
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Not trying to be a ****, but why is it so hard to type 'to' instead of 2? Rest of your post is written well...
Happy new year to you too
Romonster said:
Not trying to be a ****, but why is it so hard to type 'to' instead of 2? Rest of your post is written well...
Happy new year to you too [/QUOT
Lucky you, you managed to succeed without trying
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So far, nobody answered my question....i'm confused
doubtful. Not enough interest.
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vetvito said:
doubtful. Not enough interest.
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Far from it. The reason we'll probably never see webos or wp7 on the nexus s is that neither of those os's are fully open source like android, in fact wp7 is completely closed source.
webOS was ported to the Evo 3D but virtually nothing worked from what I remember, making it far from useful, useable, or anything past booting really.
Ios - Never been ported to anything non-apple (as far as I know).
Meego - Possible I guess, but I dont know why anyone would bother putting that amount of time into it.
WebOS - Looking possible, its going open source i hear, but the nexus S community is only going to decrease due to the release of the Galaxy Nexus
Windows Mobile - Dead
Windows Phone 7 - This was ported to the HD2 as the HD2 was used as a test phone for the OS and the drivers got leaked! Microsoft used it as it was a high spec Windows Mobile phone. (It got android as it was very similar to other HTC phones that ran Android, such as the N1 and Desire)
Ubuntu - I guess, probably wouldn't be too hard to get going, why anyone would want to I have no idea.
BB OS - hahaha...
so.... no interest.
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I realize this isn't what you're looking for, but if you're just interested in emulating the WP7 look, give Launcher7 from the market a try. I'd also recommend using the Ubermusic music player with the optional metro theme.
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Webos on Android Devices (Dual Boot)

I am looking for developers to develop a ROM for the HTC Shirft or the Samsung 7in Tablet from Sprint that dual boots Ice Cream Sandwhich and Webos.
Both OSes on the device would be sweat
Abyss19707 said:
I am looking for developers to develop a ROM for the HTC Shirft or the Samsung 7in Tablet from Sprint that dual boots Ice Cream Sandwhich and Webos.
Both OSes on the device would be sweat
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Personally i like Webos. But about 70% of others don't. most likely because of it's lack of customization and apps. It would be nice to see the dying OS ported to other devices to give it new life, but don't get your hopes up.
The devs simply don't seem to be too interested in porting Webos to other devices.
HazzaBlake said:
Personally i like Webos. But about 70% of others don't. most likely because of it's lack of customization and apps. It would be nice to see the dying OS ported to other devices to give it new life, but don't get your hopes up.
The devs simply don't seem to be too interested in porting Webos to other devices.
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I know it is sad for lack of support but Webos fans will support this. A person on one of the Webos forums is trying to wire the HTC Shift to work with the touchpad's charging dock, so there is still hope!
WebOS isn't open source yet, that's why nobody is porting it. -_-
It's not open source YET, but in a few month it will be and I'm hopeful that some devs will port it on other devices then.
The are two things I'm a bit worried about is webOS for other phones. Since I read a blog post which was all about the open source plan of HP I afraid that only the Touchpads 3.x webOS will be open sourced.
The other thing is the maybe missing feature of using gestures on phones. I mean webOS is all about gestures and I love to use my Pre3 with these gestures and the special gesture area, cause it's easy to use and superfast. But when ported on a phone, let's say a Galaxy S2, will there be gestures or does the user have to use the stupid buttons?
the enyo framework stuff was released today.
lovenokia said:
the enyo framework stuff was released today.
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Where are you developers and porters?
Grave digging this thread but I'm curious as well. Love the WebOS. Would be highly interested if it was portable to Skyrocket. Yes, I would do that to my skyrocket.
I own a touchpad
T4L0n said:
Grave digging this thread but I'm curious as well. Love the WebOS. Would be highly interested if it was portable to Skyrocket. Yes, I would do that to my skyrocket.
I own a touchpad
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I would do that to my skyrocket too. It be nice to have gestures and simplicity WebOS. There's a mod out there http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhpnlyBb6xI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I may try to port it to my skyrocket. It would be a fun project. Do you think there would be enough people to use it?
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tpmullan said:
I may try to port it to my skyrocket. It would be a fun project. Do you think there would be enough people to use it?
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I would!
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njtroncoso said:
I would!
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i would too
My vote is to port it to a device with a massive user base, such as my SGS2, or an HD2. I still play with my Pre- and it sits on my coffee table. After reading The Verge post mortem I understand why it died, but it still is the best UX hands down. Imagine it running on blazing fast hardware, but I wonder how much is lost without a keyboard?
It seems that everyone has move on from webOS within the android community (well, almost everyone). I am one of the die hard fans of the OS and continue to use it daily. Of course, my needs for an OS are different from many , and I come from a solid Linux/Unix background. I have used palm products for years and followed webOS from the beginning. There are times when I come off like a fanboi for webOS but it has seemed to be an elegant solution for true multi tasking from the beginning. I hear most folks here talking of the untimely demise of webOS and cannot help but wonder if they have decided not to follow the development of Open WebOS. The community edition of webOS is due out in Sept and there are a number of major improvements coming with it. There is also the Phoenix project which may be building another tablet running the open source WebOS.
For those who have moved on from webOS and are satisfied with android, I bid you fair well. I will continue to work within the webOS community and look forward to future development. For those who are still on the fence, I would suggest a bit of patience as there are good things in the future of webOS and this fall really isn't that far off. Whichever OS you choose, remember that the touch pad that you have is still one of the few dual boot tablets on the market and (for those who were not early adopters) was purchased for a reduced price that would be hard to match by any other tablet manufacturer. The hardware is still pretty good compaired to most all dual core tablets and is still able to run cutting edge android builds. This alone would be a good argument for sticking with the touch pad but I stick with it for the things it continues to do well within webOS.
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Hi
I want to install Android OS on Palm Pixi Plus.
Can any one help for the same.
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HazzaBlake said:
Personally i like Webos. But about 70% of others don't. most likely because of it's lack of customization and apps. It would be nice to see the dying OS ported to other devices to give it new life, but don't get your hopes up.
The devs simply don't seem to be too interested in porting Webos to other devices.
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I remember when I had my pre you could place your phone in dev mode (root) by a simple dialer code reboot and itd be unlocked then you can install preware and from there install anything you want. I remember patches that added lots more functionality to the OS. Much simpler than android
donsh00tmesanta said:
I remember when I had my pre you could place your phone in dev mode (root) by a simple dialer code reboot and itd be unlocked then you can install preware and from there install anything you want. I remember patches that added lots more functionality to the OS. Much simpler than android
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I'll buy the lack of apps argument, but customization? Kiddin' me? Installing Preware couldn't be any easier if they tried. Only Windows Mobile was easier than webOS.
I would defiantly try it on my skyrocket.
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Ideally webOS that could run Android apps would be great. The UX on webOS is second only to Windows Phone IMO, but webOS needs the app power of Android.
I had a Pre+ for a weekend but after the third time swapping it out because of hardware problems, I gave up on it. The hardware was always the problem. They should have had HTC manufacture it like the Treos.
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I'd run it on my X8 I like the look of WebOS and nearly bought a PalmPre when they were released!
It would be great to see a revival of the software
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Open-sourced iOS clone? Yes please!

http://brobuffet.com/2012/06/10/open-source-ios-clone-yes-please/
A team of developers claim they can bring the experience of Apple's iOS to general hardware. Imagine being able to run it on your Android
It'd probably get slapped by an apple lawsuit lol
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Goofy317 said:
It'd probably get slapped by an apple lawsuit lol
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LOL Right in the middle hahahaha
Isnt that what MIUI is essentially? Or is this going to be a completely rebuilt from scratch.
jonnyg1097 said:
Isnt that what MIUI is essentially? Or is this going to be a completely rebuilt from scratch.
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Miui isn't open.
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I don't know if this is for real or not, but you might wanna check this out:
http://bootdroid.blogspot.com
They're supposedly working on a similar project.
So it's basically open source TouchWiz?
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No this is a project built from Apple's darwin os and runs on top of a Linux kernel. Miui is just a modified Android ROM. This has nothing to do with Android, apart from the fact that there's a chance that roms will be available based upon this.
I think it would be amazing to see this running. I doubt most people would use it everyday. I mean, we buy Android phones for a reason right? But it would be fun to test.
This will probably not be much like iOS in terms of UI design.
Sure it'll be the same when it comes to the kernel and other low-level stuff, but they probably won't venture into the suefield and go full on UI clone
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nejc121 said:
This will probably not be much like iOS in terms of UI design.
Sure it'll be the same when it comes to the kernel and other low-level stuff, but they probably won't venture into the suefield and go full on UI clone
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Well lets hope that somebody does go on to make the full UI clone. If they can produce the low-level things then why not?
True about the suefield, but it normally doesn't stop people.
What does this actually have to do with Android? There's no mention of being Android-based. This belongs more on iPhone-developers.
People with iPhones already have the iOS experience. They wouldnt need a clone. But some of us Android users might be interested to know that a port may be coming out on other hardware.
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Sounds like it would be an enormous undertaking without much benefit.
We already have an open-source mobile OS, and it has the flexibility to be modified to imitate other OS's - the WP7 theme/interface for Android looks pretty good.
If people really want something like iOS on non-Apple phones then it is probably best to follow a similar approach: modify Android rather then build a whole new mobile OS.
nerfman100 said:
What does this actually have to do with Android? There's no mention of being Android-based. This belongs more on iPhone-developers.
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It is not based on android, however the libs are being hacked to support android devices.
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Samsungs new open source OS

i have been blabbing and shouting about samsung going for its own OS. But most people here were like android is the big fish its free and found saying that samsung cant ditch royalty free android. I have noticed there move when they let the cyanogen community leave the exynos so easily.
Tizen is what i heard is the upcoming open source os by samsung. I knew the way samsung was growing the influence of TW on its phones.
It will be both good and bad for samsung to manage the updates google free and can be free from the limitations. But on the other hand ita development might be slow because of just one vendor putting it on their phones.
So instead of android becoming samsung. Samsung made its own android.
Tech keeping pace.....
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Is it something like Samsung becoming like Apple?
Samsung as a hardware Manufacturer so far so good. But as a developer of complete OS, I am not sure. What happens to 100s and 1000s of Android applications?
Edit: Google must have sailed 7 rough seas and moved 7 tough mountains to make android what it is now. (still it could not make it's presence on desktops)
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Well soon google will realize the mistake of going complete open source. I have also mentioned this to google before to make some properitery libs in the android regarding security issues. But google didnt listen. Now android should meet its competition.
Seems like now android wont have the best of the best hardware rather samsung will bring it on its own os. Thats why maybe they saved the flexible display and didnt plan to put it on s4.
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It will be a very sh1tty OS like bada i hate. I working a hundred or more phones monthly (in a service center since 5 years) and i can say that Samsung is the worst software developer company. All Samsung platform in the past was simple, as simple as crap. Todays Samphones (smart ones) are very good but they using other companies software as base. I still think Bada is a dead end sorry if there are bada lovers in here. Android has some years behind and its a real benefit. Finally sorry for my bad English knowledge.
I really doubt Samsung will launch an own OS; What could happen would launch an Android-based OS, but with another name.
Ugh.. Thisll be like badda os.. BAD OS!!! :/
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Have a Wiki read about the upcoming OS : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tizen
Using meego samsung is trying to do what nokia should have done... I always appreciate the good work. If they come up with something better i will definitely go and get it.
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friedje said:
Have a Wiki read about the upcoming OS :
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I hope I am reading the wiki wrong becouse it sure looks like a HTML5 based app sdk. Web based apps might look good on paper for developers that want easy porting but from a user experience perspective they just suck compared to native.
I will concede that Enlightment libraries are very efficient and fast, though.
My question is, do users really need yet another mobile OS?
bada+meego
yuck
android will do very well while it is being developed
who knows after that.
unfortunalby it's a near future for android being less used by companies, just look at Firefox OS wich is in the cloud completely(i'm not really comfortable with this idea tough.) and now samsumg... i just hope they don't fall in the WebOS failure it was...
phone networks in many countries wont support cloud based operating systems. It would require far too much bandwidth. Alot of countries,? especially poorer countries, still don't have fully 3g networks.
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steekyjim said:
phone networks in many countries wont support cloud based operating systems. It would require far too much bandwidth. Alot of countries,? especially poorer countries, still don't have fully 3g networks.
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Thats absolutely true. Bandwidth is a real issue. But the real deal is that one has to cope with the advancements. Lack of resources cant hinder the development.
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here all the phone networks use edge for their mobile internet. Good luck with that one. It might be possible for a cloud phone specifically designed for use in parts of the US and western Europe. But outside that its going to fail compared to native apps. Poor countries can barely maintain their existing networks let alone pump millions into upgrading networks for just one os
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The Ubuntu Mobile will kick all the OS's a bit back.
I am also positive for ubuntu. But the one thing i didnt understand is why ubuntu is so late in grabbing the phone platform.
the success of any new os is only if they allow the existent device to switch to their OS and not just the upcoming phones. Thats the only way they can grab a bigger marketshare.
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Ubuntu hasn't really been ready for a release to the average user yet.
The X.org display server alone is a huge problem, it kinda sucks, with the Wayland display server being developed there's more of a hope.
That and the fact Ubuntu in general is pretty awful to manage; every version since 10.04 has seen me go more and more into the terminal because settings in the GUI just vanishes or becomes more obscure.
Truth is the average user has no interest in using the terminal, except for various simple copy/paste'able commands.
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gszabi said:
The Ubuntu Mobile will kick all the OS's a bit back.
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LOL Ubuntu. Keep dreaming mate.
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Im also thinking that the ubuntu will get some success jn mobile platforms. The main advantage in the ubi is the linux kernel. I would not be surprised if it can run android apk-s like BBX.
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LOL Ubuntu. Keep dreaming mate.
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Too true.
As much as I think they're on to something with that, I'm not sure they've got even a clue how they'd get to Android style adoption.

The best Smartphone OS

For my opinion is the best OS for a smartphone: Android free to mod, open source. Not iphone (too narrow), not windows whatelse, ugly tiles ...:laugh:
I vote for WP. The most responsive of all because all grafics takes place in GPU.
I vote for android os you can thansfer files on pc even without itunes
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Android ftw
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+1 on Android for sure!
Windows is pretty horrible for phones and Iphone's are way too restrictive. Android is my vote.
Android is the best, but phone is very important to update android version. Some phones are new, but after 6 months they do not give a support for os.
Hmmm, good question. The iOS is a decent OS since it is all optimized but you do not have the freedom to modify it and all. The Android is a more tech-savvy OS. It has the most freedom to modify and customize with ROMs, launchers, etc.
Android, hands down... anybody that says IOS is a better OS has no idea what they're talking about... here, show the Isheep this, maybe it'll spark a light at the end of the tunnel for them... I myself had no idea ios was this bad until I read this article...
http://droid-den.com/editorial/why-the-iphone-is-impossible-for-me-to-use/
In terms of speed then the QNX (Micro kernel) platform from which BlackBerry 10 is built is unrivaled by Android or iOS6 (Monolithic Kernel). The closest architecture is Windows NT which is a hybrid platform. The drawback is the lack of applications on BB10 though the compatibility layer which allows Android apps to run may strengthen it's base and buy time for developers to develop more native apps.
There is more than one Os (Android) HAHA LOL..... Think Ubuntu phone is going to be dubbed the new king in the near future.....
The best OS can be seen via my avatar.
But truth be told the OS is yet to be created by Google.
I've only used android. There is a lot to like. WP8 seems to catch my eye and has some nice features but haven't used it.
Android all way easy to mod and change. Alot of good apps and easy to transfer files to or from the device without having to use a specific program.
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Obviously Android is the best. It is open source and the best to mod. For all the common people the important thing is a great number of apps and you can only choose beetween Android and iOS, but Android devices are cheaper than an iPhone and they are more customizable.
Android hands down!
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...anybody that says IOS is a better OS has no idea what they're talking about..
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I vote WP8 (andorid store is still better)
Droid ever
AW: The best Smartphone OS
Android. Even if your phone doesn't get updatet officially there is still a chance of a nice custom mod.
I have to say, as a noob I am hughly suprised of the large variety of OSs for one device.
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I use Android, but WP8 look amazing

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