Open-sourced iOS clone? Yes please! - Android General

http://brobuffet.com/2012/06/10/open-source-ios-clone-yes-please/
A team of developers claim they can bring the experience of Apple's iOS to general hardware. Imagine being able to run it on your Android

It'd probably get slapped by an apple lawsuit lol
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Goofy317 said:
It'd probably get slapped by an apple lawsuit lol
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LOL Right in the middle hahahaha

Isnt that what MIUI is essentially? Or is this going to be a completely rebuilt from scratch.

jonnyg1097 said:
Isnt that what MIUI is essentially? Or is this going to be a completely rebuilt from scratch.
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Miui isn't open.
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I don't know if this is for real or not, but you might wanna check this out:
http://bootdroid.blogspot.com
They're supposedly working on a similar project.

So it's basically open source TouchWiz?
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No this is a project built from Apple's darwin os and runs on top of a Linux kernel. Miui is just a modified Android ROM. This has nothing to do with Android, apart from the fact that there's a chance that roms will be available based upon this.
I think it would be amazing to see this running. I doubt most people would use it everyday. I mean, we buy Android phones for a reason right? But it would be fun to test.

This will probably not be much like iOS in terms of UI design.
Sure it'll be the same when it comes to the kernel and other low-level stuff, but they probably won't venture into the suefield and go full on UI clone
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nejc121 said:
This will probably not be much like iOS in terms of UI design.
Sure it'll be the same when it comes to the kernel and other low-level stuff, but they probably won't venture into the suefield and go full on UI clone
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Well lets hope that somebody does go on to make the full UI clone. If they can produce the low-level things then why not?
True about the suefield, but it normally doesn't stop people.

What does this actually have to do with Android? There's no mention of being Android-based. This belongs more on iPhone-developers.

People with iPhones already have the iOS experience. They wouldnt need a clone. But some of us Android users might be interested to know that a port may be coming out on other hardware.
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Sounds like it would be an enormous undertaking without much benefit.
We already have an open-source mobile OS, and it has the flexibility to be modified to imitate other OS's - the WP7 theme/interface for Android looks pretty good.
If people really want something like iOS on non-Apple phones then it is probably best to follow a similar approach: modify Android rather then build a whole new mobile OS.

nerfman100 said:
What does this actually have to do with Android? There's no mention of being Android-based. This belongs more on iPhone-developers.
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It is not based on android, however the libs are being hacked to support android devices.
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iOS 4 Ported Successfully To android

Pretty amazing stuff, would love to see this on a 4 inch super amo led screen
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/ios-4-ported-successfully-to-htc-magic/
cowballz69 said:
Pretty amazing stuff, would love to see this on a 4 inch super amo led screen
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/ios-4-ported-successfully-to-htc-magic/
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this has already been discussed on other sites, and is actually a clone of iOS, not a port. considering they're different screen sizes, different resolutions, entirely different hardware... this is no doubt a clone or theme designed to look like iOS (though very elaborate and detailed one)
Why would someone do something like this to a poor unsuspecting Android phone
Oh the calamity!
It's either an awesome clone or it's a really well timed video.
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If Im not mistaken, arent both linux based OS's?
daraj said:
If Im not mistaken, arent both linux based OS's?
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Yes, but no one has the source code to iOS 4 to be able to port it.
daraj said:
If Im not mistaken, arent both linux based OS's?
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joedon3 said:
Yes, but no one has the source code to iOS 4 to be able to port it.
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actually they are NOT both linux based. Android is Linux based (and I think most of it is released under the apache license except for the kernel which is GPL). iOS is BSD based, both of which are *NIX-like environments, but not the same.
but as stated, there is no source code available to get iOS working on android hardware. considering all the massive technical differences (including something as simple as screen resolution on the HTC Magic which doesn't even have a dedicated GPU I think), it seems at least ridiculously unlikely this is genuine iOS4
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If Im not mistaken, arent both linux based OS's?
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Think you mean Unix.
Why even do this? If you want an Iphone4, why not just get one?
This is definitely NOT iOS. The processor architecture, drivers, and other low-level garbage would definitely not work.
The chinese have been making knock off phones AND knock off OS for years. I would think this is just some OS that looks like iOS. If it is real iOS, they must have built some virtual environment to boot it in.
But why? Who wants iOS - i made the switch for a reason.
alphadog00 said:
The chinese have been making knock off phones AND knock off OS for years. I would think this is just some OS that looks like iOS. If it is real iOS, they must have built some virtual environment to boot it in.
But why? Who wants iOS - i made the switch for a reason.
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That video looks pretty damn LEGIT!
The folders, search, slider 0.o
I wouldn't mind a dual-boot iOS on my captivate to show off, and enjoy all those high quality games!
Who's with me!?
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This is definitely NOT iOS. The processor architecture, drivers, and other low-level garbage would definitely not work.
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The processor architecture shouldn't be an issue right? The iPhone 4 runs on the same processor as our Captivate. They are the same down to how the processor handles and processes code.
I agree with you on drivers. It took forever for them to get android running on my TP2 because of the driver incompatibilities. Some of them had to be rebuilt, but they at least had an idea how to build them... since they had the code to Android.
I wouldn't mind being able to boot into iOS from my Captivate. Why not? More functionality is more power. For instance, we just got Angry Birds recently on Android in a "beta" stage, we could have been running that before if iOS worked. Same with tons of other games and apps.
Would love it if it were true...Mainly because I just want SOME way to run a Netflix app on my phone!!
It's fake. Missing folder animations and alot of other animations. I It's been confirmed as a Chinese Android skin..
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-puke- after over 3 years of using iPhones and iOS, the OS was the main reason I wanted to switch to android
It's very sluggish, even for a skin. Who the heck would want a slow iOS style skin on their Android?
terrigan said:
It's very sluggish, even for a skin. Who the heck would want a slow iOS style skin on their Android?
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Samsung
rajendra82 said:
Samsung
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+1 LOL
I had to comment. You sir, have made my day
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It's very sluggish, even for a skin. Who the heck would want a slow iOS style skin on their Android?
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Well that is only a mytouch 3g they are using. That phone feels slightly more sluggish than an iphone 3g and iOS 4.0 runs just as bad on a 3g. Not a fast phone at all.
I don't really think this is a skin. There's too much iOS specific things going on. Like the settings menu, the dialer flipping for keypad, all the status bar things being in the right place, ipod controls on the multitasking menu.
This could come in handy. My only complaint about switching from iPhone to Android is there are more well done apps for iPhone. Alot of big companies treat Android like an afterthought, though that is starting to change it seems.

Webos on Android Devices (Dual Boot)

I am looking for developers to develop a ROM for the HTC Shirft or the Samsung 7in Tablet from Sprint that dual boots Ice Cream Sandwhich and Webos.
Both OSes on the device would be sweat
Abyss19707 said:
I am looking for developers to develop a ROM for the HTC Shirft or the Samsung 7in Tablet from Sprint that dual boots Ice Cream Sandwhich and Webos.
Both OSes on the device would be sweat
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Personally i like Webos. But about 70% of others don't. most likely because of it's lack of customization and apps. It would be nice to see the dying OS ported to other devices to give it new life, but don't get your hopes up.
The devs simply don't seem to be too interested in porting Webos to other devices.
HazzaBlake said:
Personally i like Webos. But about 70% of others don't. most likely because of it's lack of customization and apps. It would be nice to see the dying OS ported to other devices to give it new life, but don't get your hopes up.
The devs simply don't seem to be too interested in porting Webos to other devices.
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I know it is sad for lack of support but Webos fans will support this. A person on one of the Webos forums is trying to wire the HTC Shift to work with the touchpad's charging dock, so there is still hope!
WebOS isn't open source yet, that's why nobody is porting it. -_-
It's not open source YET, but in a few month it will be and I'm hopeful that some devs will port it on other devices then.
The are two things I'm a bit worried about is webOS for other phones. Since I read a blog post which was all about the open source plan of HP I afraid that only the Touchpads 3.x webOS will be open sourced.
The other thing is the maybe missing feature of using gestures on phones. I mean webOS is all about gestures and I love to use my Pre3 with these gestures and the special gesture area, cause it's easy to use and superfast. But when ported on a phone, let's say a Galaxy S2, will there be gestures or does the user have to use the stupid buttons?
the enyo framework stuff was released today.
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the enyo framework stuff was released today.
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Where are you developers and porters?
Grave digging this thread but I'm curious as well. Love the WebOS. Would be highly interested if it was portable to Skyrocket. Yes, I would do that to my skyrocket.
I own a touchpad
T4L0n said:
Grave digging this thread but I'm curious as well. Love the WebOS. Would be highly interested if it was portable to Skyrocket. Yes, I would do that to my skyrocket.
I own a touchpad
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I would do that to my skyrocket too. It be nice to have gestures and simplicity WebOS. There's a mod out there http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhpnlyBb6xI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I may try to port it to my skyrocket. It would be a fun project. Do you think there would be enough people to use it?
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tpmullan said:
I may try to port it to my skyrocket. It would be a fun project. Do you think there would be enough people to use it?
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I would!
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I would!
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i would too
My vote is to port it to a device with a massive user base, such as my SGS2, or an HD2. I still play with my Pre- and it sits on my coffee table. After reading The Verge post mortem I understand why it died, but it still is the best UX hands down. Imagine it running on blazing fast hardware, but I wonder how much is lost without a keyboard?
It seems that everyone has move on from webOS within the android community (well, almost everyone). I am one of the die hard fans of the OS and continue to use it daily. Of course, my needs for an OS are different from many , and I come from a solid Linux/Unix background. I have used palm products for years and followed webOS from the beginning. There are times when I come off like a fanboi for webOS but it has seemed to be an elegant solution for true multi tasking from the beginning. I hear most folks here talking of the untimely demise of webOS and cannot help but wonder if they have decided not to follow the development of Open WebOS. The community edition of webOS is due out in Sept and there are a number of major improvements coming with it. There is also the Phoenix project which may be building another tablet running the open source WebOS.
For those who have moved on from webOS and are satisfied with android, I bid you fair well. I will continue to work within the webOS community and look forward to future development. For those who are still on the fence, I would suggest a bit of patience as there are good things in the future of webOS and this fall really isn't that far off. Whichever OS you choose, remember that the touch pad that you have is still one of the few dual boot tablets on the market and (for those who were not early adopters) was purchased for a reduced price that would be hard to match by any other tablet manufacturer. The hardware is still pretty good compaired to most all dual core tablets and is still able to run cutting edge android builds. This alone would be a good argument for sticking with the touch pad but I stick with it for the things it continues to do well within webOS.
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Hi
I want to install Android OS on Palm Pixi Plus.
Can any one help for the same.
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HazzaBlake said:
Personally i like Webos. But about 70% of others don't. most likely because of it's lack of customization and apps. It would be nice to see the dying OS ported to other devices to give it new life, but don't get your hopes up.
The devs simply don't seem to be too interested in porting Webos to other devices.
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I remember when I had my pre you could place your phone in dev mode (root) by a simple dialer code reboot and itd be unlocked then you can install preware and from there install anything you want. I remember patches that added lots more functionality to the OS. Much simpler than android
donsh00tmesanta said:
I remember when I had my pre you could place your phone in dev mode (root) by a simple dialer code reboot and itd be unlocked then you can install preware and from there install anything you want. I remember patches that added lots more functionality to the OS. Much simpler than android
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I'll buy the lack of apps argument, but customization? Kiddin' me? Installing Preware couldn't be any easier if they tried. Only Windows Mobile was easier than webOS.
I would defiantly try it on my skyrocket.
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Ideally webOS that could run Android apps would be great. The UX on webOS is second only to Windows Phone IMO, but webOS needs the app power of Android.
I had a Pre+ for a weekend but after the third time swapping it out because of hardware problems, I gave up on it. The hardware was always the problem. They should have had HTC manufacture it like the Treos.
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I'd run it on my X8 I like the look of WebOS and nearly bought a PalmPre when they were released!
It would be great to see a revival of the software
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"Apple, have it their way. Android, have it your way."

Hi guys, I found this on the web...
"Many have the saying “Apple have it their way, Android have it your way.” Wrong, Apples mobile operating system needs not to compete with Android as the operating systems top rated UI which never crashes has become the worlds most popular mobile device operating system. The reliability of iOS totally thwarts the unfriendly confusing and crash-prone UI and in general system of Android."
I don't think so.... Android sells 47% of their phones and Apple sells 30% of their phones and the rest are RIM etc....
You only just realized ANDROID RULE
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nztechblog said:
top rated UI which never crashes
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Someone needs to send him that article about iOS apps crashing.
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I think Android is a real difference, apple is just a trend.
dont mind it..the website editor is Apple freak
yeah he is..
Simplicity and stability is iphone...Customisable, amazing, refreshing and evolving is android...I prefer the later
I don't even see them as competing to people to people who know tech, they are too different animals.
In my opinion if you're going to run bone stock and never want to know anything about your phones operating system or customize anything, the iPhone is the way to go, like for old people and stuff. However if you enjoy changing things, high performance hardware and software, constantly pushing the envelope of performance, and having options for configurations and OS versions, Android is definitely the way to go.
Of course we are a very small majority of consumers who buy smart phones, so both companies need to market their gimmicks. But I think for different demographics they both have their advantages. Of course for us on this forum the phones advantages aren't feared towards us.
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True statement: “Apple have it their way, Android have it your way.”
False statement: "top rated UI which never crashes"
We all know it.
Where did you find that crap?
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Read this; it's from a guy who's always used an iPhone 4 and tried a One X for 29 days. Now he's keeping it, and he explains why: http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/13/3082261/29-days-with-android
Great quote:
I've learned that iOS is what Apple wants it to be and Android is, for better or worse, what you make of it.
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apple was exlusive but cant beat android domination
i really enjoy with android .
dodikono said:
apple was exlusive but cant beat android domination
i really enjoy with android .
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+1
carlodalatri said:
I think Android is a real difference, apple is just a trend.
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do agree

Crazy idea

I was reading up on the new Firefox OS. Are any of the devs thinking about experimenting with it on the SGS4G?
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That IS a pretty crazy idea.
With the way that firefox updates, I would be scared to have to support it.
Luckly, Android doesn't update so often, but imagine. Having to support maybe 10 releases from just 3 months!?!
Idk, I think I'll stick with android for now
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With the way that firefox updates, I would be scared to have to support it.
Luckly, Android doesn't update so often, but imagine. Having to support maybe 10 releases from just 3 months!?!
Idk, I think I'll stick with android for now
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Well its HTML5 based so it would be a huge jump in code from Android.
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candler33w said:
Well its HTML5 based so it would be a huge jump in code from Android.
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Not intended as a dig or to doubt your conclusions, but how do you see it as a "huge jump" from Android? If you mean "huge difference from working with" Android, I understand. If you believe it is significantly better than Android in certain ways, I'm curious as to what those are.
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Not intended as a dig or to doubt your conclusions, but how do you see it as a "huge jump" from Android? If you mean "huge difference from working with" Android, I understand. If you believe it is significantly better than Android in certain ways, I'm curious as to what those are.
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I was speaking in terms of programming languages. I don't see a huge jump in performance.
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Well I think is an great idea (personally) so I just grab my old HTML5 book and learn Java and CC+ probably when the OS is out there are going to be a lot of updates (knowing Firefox) but I like the idea anyway
How about you just buy a windows phone or just install firefox
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Excuse me for the ignorance, but what would work on an HTML5 OS, from what we have on Google play?
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the difference indeed is that Android works with Java(UI), C (core) and C++(third-paty stuff) but the Google Play Store is made with HTML5 now the new Firefox Os it is going to be made fully with HTML5 and maybe other stuff which I really havent search hope that helps your question

Samsungs new open source OS

i have been blabbing and shouting about samsung going for its own OS. But most people here were like android is the big fish its free and found saying that samsung cant ditch royalty free android. I have noticed there move when they let the cyanogen community leave the exynos so easily.
Tizen is what i heard is the upcoming open source os by samsung. I knew the way samsung was growing the influence of TW on its phones.
It will be both good and bad for samsung to manage the updates google free and can be free from the limitations. But on the other hand ita development might be slow because of just one vendor putting it on their phones.
So instead of android becoming samsung. Samsung made its own android.
Tech keeping pace.....
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Is it something like Samsung becoming like Apple?
Samsung as a hardware Manufacturer so far so good. But as a developer of complete OS, I am not sure. What happens to 100s and 1000s of Android applications?
Edit: Google must have sailed 7 rough seas and moved 7 tough mountains to make android what it is now. (still it could not make it's presence on desktops)
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Well soon google will realize the mistake of going complete open source. I have also mentioned this to google before to make some properitery libs in the android regarding security issues. But google didnt listen. Now android should meet its competition.
Seems like now android wont have the best of the best hardware rather samsung will bring it on its own os. Thats why maybe they saved the flexible display and didnt plan to put it on s4.
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It will be a very sh1tty OS like bada i hate. I working a hundred or more phones monthly (in a service center since 5 years) and i can say that Samsung is the worst software developer company. All Samsung platform in the past was simple, as simple as crap. Todays Samphones (smart ones) are very good but they using other companies software as base. I still think Bada is a dead end sorry if there are bada lovers in here. Android has some years behind and its a real benefit. Finally sorry for my bad English knowledge.
I really doubt Samsung will launch an own OS; What could happen would launch an Android-based OS, but with another name.
Ugh.. Thisll be like badda os.. BAD OS!!! :/
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Have a Wiki read about the upcoming OS : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tizen
Using meego samsung is trying to do what nokia should have done... I always appreciate the good work. If they come up with something better i will definitely go and get it.
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Have a Wiki read about the upcoming OS :
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I hope I am reading the wiki wrong becouse it sure looks like a HTML5 based app sdk. Web based apps might look good on paper for developers that want easy porting but from a user experience perspective they just suck compared to native.
I will concede that Enlightment libraries are very efficient and fast, though.
My question is, do users really need yet another mobile OS?
bada+meego
yuck
android will do very well while it is being developed
who knows after that.
unfortunalby it's a near future for android being less used by companies, just look at Firefox OS wich is in the cloud completely(i'm not really comfortable with this idea tough.) and now samsumg... i just hope they don't fall in the WebOS failure it was...
phone networks in many countries wont support cloud based operating systems. It would require far too much bandwidth. Alot of countries,? especially poorer countries, still don't have fully 3g networks.
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phone networks in many countries wont support cloud based operating systems. It would require far too much bandwidth. Alot of countries,? especially poorer countries, still don't have fully 3g networks.
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Thats absolutely true. Bandwidth is a real issue. But the real deal is that one has to cope with the advancements. Lack of resources cant hinder the development.
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here all the phone networks use edge for their mobile internet. Good luck with that one. It might be possible for a cloud phone specifically designed for use in parts of the US and western Europe. But outside that its going to fail compared to native apps. Poor countries can barely maintain their existing networks let alone pump millions into upgrading networks for just one os
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The Ubuntu Mobile will kick all the OS's a bit back.
I am also positive for ubuntu. But the one thing i didnt understand is why ubuntu is so late in grabbing the phone platform.
the success of any new os is only if they allow the existent device to switch to their OS and not just the upcoming phones. Thats the only way they can grab a bigger marketshare.
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Ubuntu hasn't really been ready for a release to the average user yet.
The X.org display server alone is a huge problem, it kinda sucks, with the Wayland display server being developed there's more of a hope.
That and the fact Ubuntu in general is pretty awful to manage; every version since 10.04 has seen me go more and more into the terminal because settings in the GUI just vanishes or becomes more obscure.
Truth is the average user has no interest in using the terminal, except for various simple copy/paste'able commands.
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The Ubuntu Mobile will kick all the OS's a bit back.
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LOL Ubuntu. Keep dreaming mate.
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Im also thinking that the ubuntu will get some success jn mobile platforms. The main advantage in the ubi is the linux kernel. I would not be surprised if it can run android apk-s like BBX.
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LOL Ubuntu. Keep dreaming mate.
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Too true.
As much as I think they're on to something with that, I'm not sure they've got even a clue how they'd get to Android style adoption.

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