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Android and WP7

These days this two devices have the same ram, same processor speeds and in general similar specs.
Now WP7 has such a smoother feel than androids almost in every way. So that makes me think is OS wise and not hardware.
What are your thoughts on this? Do you think Google will ever try to optimize their OS?
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I would think as we hit 2.4, Android will be at it's best, if not, then 2.5?
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The Android UI is not that optimized, i really hope they give the user experience some more love in 2.4...

Android has become the big cheese in operating systems, it will be harder for any other to compete in the same arena. What Apple and Windows will do is create their niche' market and bleed it for all they can get.

This thread is a flame war waiting to happen
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deliriousDroid said:
This thread is a flame war waiting to happen.
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I'll say.
To OP: What do you want out of your phone? Do you want to keep it safe or are you feeling adventures? Smooth animations vs customization?

ErOR22 said:
I'll say.
To OP: What do you want out of your phone? Do you want to keep it safe or are you feeling adventures? Smooth animations vs customization?
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I want both lol.

Maybe wait for HTC Sensation? It looks like a very nice phone with a updated version of Sense interface which is good and I'm sure it will be pretty.

The Android UI is not that optimized, i really hope they give the user experience some more love in 2.4...

good..................

Well, if anyone can compete with android I'd say its MS. Windows is still a pretty solid platform and they seem to realize that UI optimization sells phones. We'll see how it develops, I have nothing against WP7 as long as it evolves as an open platform for third party developers the way windows is.

CptAJ said:
Well, if anyone can compete with android I'd say its MS. Windows is still a pretty solid platform and they seem to realize that UI optimization sells phones. We'll see how it develops, I have nothing against WP7 as long as it evolves as an open platform for third party developers the way windows is.
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Agreed, I really feel like WP7 is underrated, by the looks of it, it could easily be that solid 3rd behind iOS and Android.

Whats their API situation anyway? Is it managed code for everyone like android and java or do they let you go lower level for the win?

The phone that will end all

http://www.gforgames.com/gadgets/htc-edge-specs-quad-core-release-date-15691/
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They say the same for every new phone yet we still find the need to prepare ourselves for the newer iPhone. >.> Give anything a couple months then it'll be fodder for the beasts to come.

It won't end anything. iPhone is known for it's easy to use software, an average consumer isn't going to buy a Quad Core Android they will buy a sleek and easy to use smartphone. But yes, this will make all those "IPHONE IS SO COOL AND FASTER THAN ANDROID" iFags shut up.

I thought all new ICS phones would be without soft keys at the bottom...
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Hmmm, well it will surely be interesting to compare the Qualcomm CPU's with the TEGRA 3 one.
I'll be the first testing that phone !

HeavenlyWinds said:
It won't end anything. iPhone is known for it's easy to use software, an average consumer isn't going to buy a Quad Core Android they will buy a sleek and easy to use smartphone. But yes, this will make all those "IPHONE IS SO COOL AND FASTER THAN ANDROID" iFags shut up.
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No it won't, iOS and WP7 run smoother and faster due to full software/hardware optimization. It never was about hardware, android is just ill-optimized.

z33dev33l said:
No it won't, iOS and WP7 run smoother and faster due to full software/hardware optimization. It never was about hardware, android is just ill-optimized.
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+1. Love Android, but Google is still in it's infancy when it comes to the OS game. That being said, I'll be supporting open source as long as I live. If someone thinks that Android or WP7 is difficult to use, they're obviously iTarded. I respect Apple's ability to create a quality, well polished product, but I'll never support a company who enforces my user experience.

Android is only a year younger than iOS and it still doesn't have the fluidity in its physics like iOS or Windows Phone 7. It would be nice if they would concentrate on making a solid build instead of trying to release the latest and greatest all of the time.
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GSX-Rob said:
+1. Love Android, but Google is still in it's infancy when it comes to the OS game. That being said, I'll be supporting open source as long as I live. If someone thinks that Android or WP7 is difficult to use, they're obviously iTarded. I respect Apple's ability to create a quality, well polished product, but I'll never support a company who enforces my user experience.
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WP7 is locked down...

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1336704&highlight=edge

Why iPhone applications or games always ahead android?

Hi all,
I've been a both android and iPhone user. And for now I've switched back to android for Galaxy S3 because it has much bigger screen and wanna try how fast it is. However, it's my feeling I think not quite different from 4S, even 4S can respond fast in every game and application compared to galaxy. I don't know why... just feel like that during the time I use it.
One more thing is that I wonder why almost every game or application under the same name from iPhone, got available ahead of android and most of them have much more features and quality than android as well, eg., asphalt 7....
Sometimes, I feel so sad about this...
So I am waiting to read about all of your opinions on this matter...
Thanks,
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*grabs popcorn*
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I don't understand what you are trying to say. Are you comparing
the S3 & 4s or Android v appl. ????

hollow1 said:
One more thing is that I wonder why almost every game or application under the same name from iPhone, got available ahead of android and most of them have much more features and quality than android as well, eg., asphalt 7....
Sometimes, I feel so sad about this...
So I am waiting to read about all of your opinions on this matter...
Thanks,
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It's because of the I in front of it. Apple have hacked the Android Play Store to check an online database of Iphone Apps, and if any developer tries to put an app on the Play store, the Apple Virus checks if the same app is already available for the Iphone. If it's not, it will delay the Android app in Stealth mode, and send the sourcecode to Apple. Apple will then convert the app for IOS, put an I in front of the name, and release it for Iphone. As soon as they do, the name with the I in front of it gets transferred to the remote database, signaling the Apple virus that this particular app is now available on Iphone, and it's safe to come out of Stealth mode and release the app into the Play Store, but upon release, the virus cuts out 2 or 3 random features. They did this so they can claim that they always have apps faster then Android, and with more features. Now you know.

Apple has a very limited set of devices which they have to support in their OS. Thus much more optimization can be done to "smooth" such things. That said, I find JB with Project Butter quite impressive in this regard.
But with owning a non-Nexus Samsung device you are not in the best hands regarding non-bloated and smooth firmwares.

SctheNL said:
It's because of the I in front of it. Apple have hacked the Android Play Store to check an online database of Iphone Apps, and if any developer tries to put an app on the Play store, the Apple Virus checks if the same app is already available for the Iphone. If it's not, it will delay the Android app in Stealth mode, and send the sourcecode to Apple. Apple will then convert the app for IOS, put an I in front of the name, and release it for Iphone. As soon as they do, the name with the I in front of it gets transferred to the remote database, signaling the Apple virus that this particular app is now available on Iphone, and it's safe to come out of Stealth mode and release the app into the Play Store, but upon release, the virus cuts out 2 or 3 random features. They did this so they can claim that they always have apps faster then Android, and with more features. Now you know.
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What you said seem a very big concern between them. Excuse me, but Where you get the information from?
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haker307 said:
I don't understand what you are trying to say. Are you comparing
the S3 & 4s or Android v appl. ????
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Can be both.. if you can share your idea between tthis two.
EiRoGGe said:
Apple has a very limited set of devices which they have to support in their OS. Thus much more optimization can be done to "smooth" such things. That said, I find JB with Project Butter quite impressive in this regard.
But with owning a non-Nexus Samsung device you are not in the best hands regarding non-bloated and smooth firmwares.
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Hmm, like what you said I should go to one "smooth" is better then holding many types of devices which is good only in shapes and spec but doesn't have quality. I still don't know how Google encourage their 3rd party devs to make one good app or game for android. As to hacker307 said seem play store is a cow-don't fix.
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hollow1 said:
What you said seem a very big concern between them. Excuse me, but Where you get the information from?
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I regularly eat apples. Sometimes they tell me stuff.

Apple has far better system integration with their line of products. A good example is the iPhone 4S which has inferior spec compared with similar priced Android phones, but still it runs much more smooth than most of the android phone. Because every iPhone 4S is exactly the same, so software developer knows exactly how their software will perform on those units, and hence much more easier to optimize performance.
As to why iOS games is always ahead of Android, I believe that has a lot to do with the eco system of AppStore and Google Play respectively. iOS is more profitable than Google, but that is just my guess.

I can't understand what u have found about this two devices. I own an ipod 4th gen and I can say that my galaxy s plus is faster. I know iphone is the most beautiful but not the best at specs... I am sorry my friend. Also about the hacking is correct...
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DruidXL said:
As to why iOS games is always ahead of Android, I believe that has a lot to do with the eco system of AppStore and Google Play respectively. iOS is more profitable than Google, but that is just my guess.
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I think you are right, that is the reason. Dev`s tend to develop apps/games to get the most profit first.

I believe that all apple devices are pretty much the same since the first one so so application's can be made more quickly and easily. But android phones are made by different companies using different hardware so harder for developers
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hmm, pretty hard...I don't know should I replace my S3 with the next iPhone 5 or not...
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(off-topic)apple's first android phone

all know that apple is the world's most famous, loved and reliable company. Has great fan following but when i consider or even think of b s we uying an IDEVICE....i think of loosing all the customization and tweaks i use to do with my own samsung device......i purchased Galaxy note2 few months back and if i compare it now in market, there are almost 5 devices which look exactly same as my Galaxy note2, and how can i forget the build quality(cheap plastic **** all over them).
Being a hardcore gamer i purchased a quadcore device thinking i would be able to play all games(earlier i had tab2 dual core) but now question arises is AM I HAPPY WITH GAMING EXP.?
certainly not. There are lot of title which are not on android and also here THD games into the picture costly galaxy devices doesn't support THD titles but how cum all these are playable on IDEVICES? We all know this but without any lags unbelievable
IOS VS ANDROID less extreme
customization ''
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less very high
tweaks and fun
due to restrictions ''
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highy stable less ''
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less devs lot ''
choice to work ''
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samsung- keeps cheating apple and increasing sales and earning a lot.
apple- crying and suing samsung
Court-no result
apple vs samsung big fight but apple don't cheat....lol....who cares people want quality this is what samsung does
don't u guys think its the time to return the favour back and apple should take a big step and launch its first android device
like htc did, they are lauching windows as well as android devices playing on both's sides
WHO CARES? MONEY AND CUSTOMERS SATISFACTION SHOULD BE THE FIRST PRIORITY.
MY QUESTIONS
will this ever happen?
If yes u are ready to buy such device?
Nice Quote:never get too attached to things(IOS) otherwise up will get outdated
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I'm very curious how games developed for Tegra devices work on iOS.

AbhimanyuAryan said:
all know that apple is the world's most ... loved ... company
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Absolutely incorrect, not at all the world's most loved company at all. Everyone hates the fact that they can get away with releasing the same thing each year with the same 5-year-old OS and no innovation and still make the best-selling phone of the year.
No, Apple will never release a device with Android. That's completely absurd. It would be like Microsoft announcing their new Surface which runs Ubuntu out of the box.
Now, I don't actually know what the point of this thread is but the entire bit in the middle is a bit difficult to understand, maybe you could try a different translator?
Finally, the reason games work smoother on iOS is because of app optimisation. It helps that the iPhone has a great GPU but the main reason is that devs only have to optimise their apps for a small range of phones on the App store whereas the apps on the Play store have to work for hundreds of different phones with different chipsets. You get things like Tegra optimised apps but not much more.

Originally Posted by AbhimanyuAryan
all know that apple is the world's most ... loved ... company
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Absolutely incorrect, not at all the world's most loved company at all. Everyone hates the fact that they can get away with releasing the same thing each year with the same 5-year-old OS and no innovation and still make the best-selling phone of the year.
No, Apple will never release a device with Android. That's completely absurd. It would be like Microsoft announcing their new Surface which runs Ubuntu out of the box.
Now, I don't actually know what the point of this thread is but the entire bit in the middle is a bit difficult to understand, maybe you could try a different translator?
Finally, the reason games work smoother on iOS is because of app optimisation. It helps that the iPhone has a great GPU but the main reason is that devs only have to optimise their apps for a small range of phones on the App store whereas the apps on the Play store have to work for hundreds of different phones with different chipsets. You get things like Tegra optimised apps but not much more.
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I tried to create a comparision b/w Android and iOS but since xda apk auto arranges the text it looks like a mess..... by the way what do think people will buy apple running android (if situation)
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AbhimanyuAryan said:
I tried to create a comparision b/w Android and iOS but since xda apk auto arranges the text it looks like a mess..... by the way what do think people will buy apple running android (if situation)
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Thread closed. Off Topic does not belong in General.

Android users are smarter than iOS users

Take a look @ this: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/1648395?start=195
Lol.. it amazes me to see how dumb the majority of these Apple fan boys are
The word freezer and oven come up so much times

What the hell were you doing on a apple forum
anyway, you know: if you are a driver, you buy an android device; if you are a passenger, you buy an iphone
good day
regards

Apple is far ahead of Android now ..... but i hope android will reach soon.

Haha I love the freezer trick. I'll have to try it the next time I'm in boot loop instead of Odin
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Normally, I would just say, "Get a new phone." But since an unlocked iPhone 5S costs $849.99... let's just say Apple fanboys are usually poor. :cyclops:

I was on those forums recently reading the same thing because my girlfriends replacement iPhone 4s fried the wifi right after doing the update (first unit was a year old and had some software glitches but Telus offered to just order a new one from applecare). Anyway since the phone was still under warranty I did not try the freezer trick. She's on her third iPhone 4s now, hope third time is a charm.
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Im sad when i heard that iOS copying Android pulldown notification
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sciueps said:
What the hell were you doing on a apple forum
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Free comedy?
startandroid said:
Apple is far ahead of Android now ..... but i hope android will reach soon.
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Are you aware that 79% of the Smartphone market runs on Android? And that Apple desperately clings to a meagre 15,5%?
http://www.engadget.com/2014/01/29/strategy-analytics-2013-smartphone-share/
Apple is anything but 'ahead'...

Android users are way more in number than ios users.
Apple is just for name but android provides real potential

As a newly converted android fan. This made me laugh :laugh:

rudeboiza said:
As a newly converted android fan. This made me laugh :laugh:
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Why you tell it? I have use android last 2 years. I have faced no problem in here... Why u laugh about android user...?

sumonmolla said:
Why you tell it? I have use android last 2 years. I have faced no problem in here... Why u laugh about android user...?
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Because I believe it to be true. I was on iOS and now cannot be without my Android I much prefer Android, because you can do so much more with it.

rudeboiza said:
Because I believe it to be true. I was on iOS and now cannot be without my Android I much prefer Android, because you can do so much more with it.
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okay..

Compare Apple vs Android
Android is all about quantity not quality ..... Android has deal with so many stupid mobile manufacture where lot of apps don't work properly.
ShadowLea said:
Free comedy?
Are you aware that 79% of the Smartphone market runs on Android? And that Apple desperately clings to a meagre 15,5%?
http://www.engadget.com/2014/01/29/strategy-analytics-2013-smartphone-share/
Apple is anything but 'ahead'...
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startandroid said:
Android is all about quantity not quality ..... Android has deal with so many stupid mobile manufacture where lot of apps don't work properly.
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And google solves with developer API and hard software requirements for google play access that's why Chinese. Tablets don't have google play well some
Of them
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Threads like this typically end up in flame wars therefore I'm going to close this