These days this two devices have the same ram, same processor speeds and in general similar specs.
Now WP7 has such a smoother feel than androids almost in every way. So that makes me think is OS wise and not hardware.
What are your thoughts on this? Do you think Google will ever try to optimize their OS?
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I would think as we hit 2.4, Android will be at it's best, if not, then 2.5?
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The Android UI is not that optimized, i really hope they give the user experience some more love in 2.4...
Android has become the big cheese in operating systems, it will be harder for any other to compete in the same arena. What Apple and Windows will do is create their niche' market and bleed it for all they can get.
This thread is a flame war waiting to happen
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This thread is a flame war waiting to happen.
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I'll say.
To OP: What do you want out of your phone? Do you want to keep it safe or are you feeling adventures? Smooth animations vs customization?
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I want both lol.
Maybe wait for HTC Sensation? It looks like a very nice phone with a updated version of Sense interface which is good and I'm sure it will be pretty.
The Android UI is not that optimized, i really hope they give the user experience some more love in 2.4...
good..................
Well, if anyone can compete with android I'd say its MS. Windows is still a pretty solid platform and they seem to realize that UI optimization sells phones. We'll see how it develops, I have nothing against WP7 as long as it evolves as an open platform for third party developers the way windows is.
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Well, if anyone can compete with android I'd say its MS. Windows is still a pretty solid platform and they seem to realize that UI optimization sells phones. We'll see how it develops, I have nothing against WP7 as long as it evolves as an open platform for third party developers the way windows is.
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Agreed, I really feel like WP7 is underrated, by the looks of it, it could easily be that solid 3rd behind iOS and Android.
Whats their API situation anyway? Is it managed code for everyone like android and java or do they let you go lower level for the win?
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Pretty amazing stuff, would love to see this on a 4 inch super amo led screen
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/ios-4-ported-successfully-to-htc-magic/
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Pretty amazing stuff, would love to see this on a 4 inch super amo led screen
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/ios-4-ported-successfully-to-htc-magic/
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this has already been discussed on other sites, and is actually a clone of iOS, not a port. considering they're different screen sizes, different resolutions, entirely different hardware... this is no doubt a clone or theme designed to look like iOS (though very elaborate and detailed one)
Why would someone do something like this to a poor unsuspecting Android phone
Oh the calamity!
It's either an awesome clone or it's a really well timed video.
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If Im not mistaken, arent both linux based OS's?
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If Im not mistaken, arent both linux based OS's?
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Yes, but no one has the source code to iOS 4 to be able to port it.
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If Im not mistaken, arent both linux based OS's?
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Yes, but no one has the source code to iOS 4 to be able to port it.
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actually they are NOT both linux based. Android is Linux based (and I think most of it is released under the apache license except for the kernel which is GPL). iOS is BSD based, both of which are *NIX-like environments, but not the same.
but as stated, there is no source code available to get iOS working on android hardware. considering all the massive technical differences (including something as simple as screen resolution on the HTC Magic which doesn't even have a dedicated GPU I think), it seems at least ridiculously unlikely this is genuine iOS4
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Think you mean Unix.
Why even do this? If you want an Iphone4, why not just get one?
This is definitely NOT iOS. The processor architecture, drivers, and other low-level garbage would definitely not work.
The chinese have been making knock off phones AND knock off OS for years. I would think this is just some OS that looks like iOS. If it is real iOS, they must have built some virtual environment to boot it in.
But why? Who wants iOS - i made the switch for a reason.
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The chinese have been making knock off phones AND knock off OS for years. I would think this is just some OS that looks like iOS. If it is real iOS, they must have built some virtual environment to boot it in.
But why? Who wants iOS - i made the switch for a reason.
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That video looks pretty damn LEGIT!
The folders, search, slider 0.o
I wouldn't mind a dual-boot iOS on my captivate to show off, and enjoy all those high quality games!
Who's with me!?
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This is definitely NOT iOS. The processor architecture, drivers, and other low-level garbage would definitely not work.
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The processor architecture shouldn't be an issue right? The iPhone 4 runs on the same processor as our Captivate. They are the same down to how the processor handles and processes code.
I agree with you on drivers. It took forever for them to get android running on my TP2 because of the driver incompatibilities. Some of them had to be rebuilt, but they at least had an idea how to build them... since they had the code to Android.
I wouldn't mind being able to boot into iOS from my Captivate. Why not? More functionality is more power. For instance, we just got Angry Birds recently on Android in a "beta" stage, we could have been running that before if iOS worked. Same with tons of other games and apps.
Would love it if it were true...Mainly because I just want SOME way to run a Netflix app on my phone!!
It's fake. Missing folder animations and alot of other animations. I It's been confirmed as a Chinese Android skin..
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-puke- after over 3 years of using iPhones and iOS, the OS was the main reason I wanted to switch to android
It's very sluggish, even for a skin. Who the heck would want a slow iOS style skin on their Android?
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It's very sluggish, even for a skin. Who the heck would want a slow iOS style skin on their Android?
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Samsung
rajendra82 said:
Samsung
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+1 LOL
I had to comment. You sir, have made my day
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It's very sluggish, even for a skin. Who the heck would want a slow iOS style skin on their Android?
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Well that is only a mytouch 3g they are using. That phone feels slightly more sluggish than an iphone 3g and iOS 4.0 runs just as bad on a 3g. Not a fast phone at all.
I don't really think this is a skin. There's too much iOS specific things going on. Like the settings menu, the dialer flipping for keypad, all the status bar things being in the right place, ipod controls on the multitasking menu.
This could come in handy. My only complaint about switching from iPhone to Android is there are more well done apps for iPhone. Alot of big companies treat Android like an afterthought, though that is starting to change it seems.
http://www.gforgames.com/gadgets/htc-edge-specs-quad-core-release-date-15691/
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They say the same for every new phone yet we still find the need to prepare ourselves for the newer iPhone. >.> Give anything a couple months then it'll be fodder for the beasts to come.
It won't end anything. iPhone is known for it's easy to use software, an average consumer isn't going to buy a Quad Core Android they will buy a sleek and easy to use smartphone. But yes, this will make all those "IPHONE IS SO COOL AND FASTER THAN ANDROID" iFags shut up.
I thought all new ICS phones would be without soft keys at the bottom...
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Hmmm, well it will surely be interesting to compare the Qualcomm CPU's with the TEGRA 3 one.
I'll be the first testing that phone !
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It won't end anything. iPhone is known for it's easy to use software, an average consumer isn't going to buy a Quad Core Android they will buy a sleek and easy to use smartphone. But yes, this will make all those "IPHONE IS SO COOL AND FASTER THAN ANDROID" iFags shut up.
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No it won't, iOS and WP7 run smoother and faster due to full software/hardware optimization. It never was about hardware, android is just ill-optimized.
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No it won't, iOS and WP7 run smoother and faster due to full software/hardware optimization. It never was about hardware, android is just ill-optimized.
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+1. Love Android, but Google is still in it's infancy when it comes to the OS game. That being said, I'll be supporting open source as long as I live. If someone thinks that Android or WP7 is difficult to use, they're obviously iTarded. I respect Apple's ability to create a quality, well polished product, but I'll never support a company who enforces my user experience.
Android is only a year younger than iOS and it still doesn't have the fluidity in its physics like iOS or Windows Phone 7. It would be nice if they would concentrate on making a solid build instead of trying to release the latest and greatest all of the time.
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+1. Love Android, but Google is still in it's infancy when it comes to the OS game. That being said, I'll be supporting open source as long as I live. If someone thinks that Android or WP7 is difficult to use, they're obviously iTarded. I respect Apple's ability to create a quality, well polished product, but I'll never support a company who enforces my user experience.
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WP7 is locked down...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1336704&highlight=edge
This is shaping up to be a real iPhone contender for what looks like might be solid, quality, construction out of metal.
http://www.pradaphonebylg3.com/en/02-design.php
This is insanely nice .
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If it wasn't android I'd buy one to go alongside my lumias.
The more I think about it, that Prada 3.0 would be perfect for the Espier Launcher. Too bad this phone won't be out here for a while yet...if ever.
I just don't get the point in low-grade software on a high end device. It worked for the HD2 I guess.
Isn't that a women's brand?
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Isn't that a women's brand?
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The LG Prada was the first phone with a capacitive touch display despite what ifans might say. I believe the original iPhone screens were bought from LG. Yes, LG is a brand of purse, but in this case it's more a notion of quality. LG was garbage in the mobile industry, as the LG incite or some stupid name like that it'd have been completely ignored. With the prada name they had a shot.
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Well they obviously can't put iOS on it. And if they have any intention of selling any, they certainly wouldn't consider WP7 unless it makes some huge gains in marketshare any time soon. Android is popular, easy and on able devices, runs smooth and without issue. LG made the right choice. No question.
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Well they obviously can't put iOS on it. And if they have any intention of selling any, they certainly wouldn't consider WP7 unless it makes some huge gains in marketshare any time soon. Android is popular, easy and on able devices, runs smooth and without issue. LG made the right choice. No question.
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Oh no, you used the word smooth to describe android. Here comes Zee to rip your head off.
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I just don't get the point in low-grade software on a high end device.
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It's extremely simple: You're not the ruler of the world, so you thinking Android is "low-grade software" does not make it so.
They don't build a bugatti and put a four cylinder in it. Android is the choppiest, slowest, and most broken of any of the major cellphone OSes.
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They don't build a bugatti and put a four cylinder in it. Android is the choppiest, slowest, and most broken of any of the major cellphone OSes.
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They don't build a bugatti and put a governor on it. WP7 is the most restricted and locked down of any of the major cellphone OSes.
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Android is the choppiest, slowest, and most broken of any of the major cellphone OSes.
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Yes, oh great and all-knowing ruler of the world.
Hoping it'll change the color UI depending on the Time and season ( something like Sony S500i ) cause it'll be kinda ugly if it's always black
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They don't build a bugatti and put a four cylinder in it. Android is the choppiest, slowest, and most broken of any of the major cellphone OSes.
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Lol ok bud... Obviously millions of folks don't mind. Mine is smooth as butter, let's me customize it when I get phone ADD and it's just overall a pleasant phone experience. Methinks your Android woes come down to user-error. How anyone can blast Android, but so ardently defend a technological abortion like WP7 is beyond me.
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Lol ok bud... Obviously millions of folks don't mind. Mine is smooth as butter, let's me customize it when I get phone ADD and it's just overall a pleasant phone experience. Methinks your Android woes come down to user-error. How anyone can blast Android, but so ardently defend a technological abortion like WP7 is beyond me.
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It's the tiles. They're... They're beautiful. And they move around ever so smoothly.
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Ok so I keep reading posts that android is so slow, so can anyone give any evidence for this being true other than personal bias for against an os as I have only used windows (pre wp7) symbian and android and my android phones have always been good.
For example what makes android slow if it is?
Dave
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mistermentality said:
Ok so I keep reading posts that android is so slow, so can anyone give any evidence for this being true other than personal bias for against an os as I have only used windows (pre wp7) symbian and android and my android phones have always been good.
For example what makes android slow if it is?
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Not sure if this is what you mean but, the slowness regarding Android is often related to its lagginess. And the easiet example of this is the dialer in Android. Tapping the number buttons will immediately show how Android can be laggy. In iOS and Windows (WP6.5 & WP7), tapping the number buttons brings an instantaneous response. In Android there is always a lag between the tap and response. Some Androids are better than others but there is always a certain amount of lag.
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Not sure if this is what you mean but, the slowness regarding Android is often related to its lagginess. And the easiet example of this is the dialer in Android. Tapping the number buttons will immediately show how Android can be laggy. In iOS and Windows (WP6.5 & WP7), tapping the number buttons brings an instantaneous response. In Android there is always a lag between the tap and response. Some Androids are better than others but there is always a certain amount of lag.
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Or you could just swipe between homescreens, through a lengthy text, or many other things. It's also the least user friendly aside from perhaps blackberry and has the most bugs. It's also the only OS where you can get viruses from the marketplace.
I get instant number on screen when pressing in dialer and swiping through screens is smooth, if there was way to attach video I would show what I mean.
Only lag I experience is when it frees ram to run a large app like a game as then there is I admit often a noteable delay.
But yes viruses I have heard of on the market, they were malware apps quickly removed but android market itself is not great. Just haven't had any issues on my lg with scrolling or swiping speeds etc and am using stock gingerbread with go launcher so can't confirm that and I use my phone a lot.
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Hi guys, I found this on the web...
"Many have the saying “Apple have it their way, Android have it your way.” Wrong, Apples mobile operating system needs not to compete with Android as the operating systems top rated UI which never crashes has become the worlds most popular mobile device operating system. The reliability of iOS totally thwarts the unfriendly confusing and crash-prone UI and in general system of Android."
I don't think so.... Android sells 47% of their phones and Apple sells 30% of their phones and the rest are RIM etc....
You only just realized ANDROID RULE
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nztechblog said:
top rated UI which never crashes
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Someone needs to send him that article about iOS apps crashing.
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I think Android is a real difference, apple is just a trend.
dont mind it..the website editor is Apple freak
yeah he is..
Simplicity and stability is iphone...Customisable, amazing, refreshing and evolving is android...I prefer the later
I don't even see them as competing to people to people who know tech, they are too different animals.
In my opinion if you're going to run bone stock and never want to know anything about your phones operating system or customize anything, the iPhone is the way to go, like for old people and stuff. However if you enjoy changing things, high performance hardware and software, constantly pushing the envelope of performance, and having options for configurations and OS versions, Android is definitely the way to go.
Of course we are a very small majority of consumers who buy smart phones, so both companies need to market their gimmicks. But I think for different demographics they both have their advantages. Of course for us on this forum the phones advantages aren't feared towards us.
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True statement: “Apple have it their way, Android have it your way.”
False statement: "top rated UI which never crashes"
We all know it.
Where did you find that crap?
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Read this; it's from a guy who's always used an iPhone 4 and tried a One X for 29 days. Now he's keeping it, and he explains why: http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/13/3082261/29-days-with-android
Great quote:
I've learned that iOS is what Apple wants it to be and Android is, for better or worse, what you make of it.
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apple was exlusive but cant beat android domination
i really enjoy with android .
dodikono said:
apple was exlusive but cant beat android domination
i really enjoy with android .
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+1
carlodalatri said:
I think Android is a real difference, apple is just a trend.
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do agree
iphone VS android VS windows phone
What is the best OS?
Let me know
android for its customization and Google sync
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That's a very subjective, infinitely discussed topic youve got there I dare say they have strengths and weaknesses. Aesthetically iOS is better and is much better vetted, but then a little dull sometimes. Windows is lovely looking as far as I can see, but seems to have very little backing (the best apps barely seem to reach it). Android is IMO good as long as the user understands for a smart device to be excellent, 'customisability' should not outweigh design. Often simple is better.
Android is the best!!! But iOS run smoothness on idevices bc they are optimized for a few devices.
That my opinion; If u want modify all and get all potential of the phone go android, if u dont want worry about anything go iOS
iOS - very good
WP8 - nice
Android - I did not like
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iOS - very good
WP8 - nice
Android - I did not like
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Care to justify that? It is after all a 'discussion' thread, the above don't leave much room for that XD
iOS good and lag free
Windows is boring but awesome camera though
Android.... God father
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