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And once again Ios gets the decent games

What is that wrong with andriod that game developers don't like giving us releases! There is a new game coming to Ios Mass effect, and once again not coming to andriod, this is infuriating and it does my nutt in !! Anyone else feel like this!!
Here's a video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNcoCvwMZao&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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maccboy2010 said:
What is that wrong with andriod that game developers don't like giving us releases! There is a new game coming to Ios Mass effect, and once again not coming to andriod, this is infuriating and it does my nutt in !! Anyone else feel like this!!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNcoCvwMZao&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Most of the hottest iOS games ARE available to Android users. If it's not even available for iOS yet, then what makes you think it won't come to Android?

That's what I got told on another site, iv got a iPhone and the Sony experia play and the amount of high quality games on Ios by the big developer companys is unreal :-( it's just what I see with looking at Ios app store games n andriod game it's disgusting how favoritism Ios gets with games and apps
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maccboy2010 said:
That's what I got told on another site, iv got a iPhone and the Sony experia play and the amount of high quality games on Ios by the big developer companys is unreal :-( it's just what I see with looking at Ios app store games n andriod game it's disgusting how favoritism Ios gets with games and apps
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The only reason why the iOS is so popular, is because it's so simple.
Again though, just because it's coming out on iOS first, doesn't mean Android won't get it. Don't get discouraged, you could even send the Developer an email asking if they plan for Android OS support.

I believe that most game developers release their titles for iOS first (due to having to support only a few devices), then bring their games over to Android (where they have to support several more devices).
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The iphone is the most popular single phone so a dev can get the game out to a larger group of people with less development. Games on android often require separate files for different gpus I've noticed. Some games will onlh be for tegra and not work on powervr for example. It would be nice if android had something universal for devs like directx on windows so that all gpus with enough power would work.
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And the biggest reason of all. Android apps and games are selling very small quantities compared to their iOS counterpart, they don't get much money in return.
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Not to mention the gpu on the 4s is 2x more powerful than what the current Android handset has. I'm referring to the Mali on the current Exynos devices in case anyone was wondering.
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The iphone is the most popular single phone so a dev can get the game out to a larger group of people with less development. Games on android often require separate files for different gpus I've noticed. Some games will onlh be for tegra and not work on powervr for example. It would be nice if android had something universal for devs like directx on windows so that all gpus with enough power would work.
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Yeh I think google n phone manufacturers need to sit down and sort this out because all it seems to be doing is discouraging game devs from bringing games to the andriod market I understand that, lets hope they bang there heads together because to me it's not working!
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infazzdar said:
I believe that most game developers release their titles for iOS first (due to having to support only a few devices), then bring their games over to Android (where they have to support several more devices).
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Haha several lol more like 100s ;-) I think this is the sort of problem andriod faces being on so many devices n manufacturers.
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I guess I'm in the minority of people who rarely play games if ever on my phone.

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I guess I'm in the minority of people who rarely play games if ever on my phone.
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I am with you on it. I may play half an hour in 2 months while waiting at a docs office or something. Life just doesn't allow for the time when you mix, work, family and friends.

i dont play games on my phone but if the phone in some way reaches my GFs hand then its a different story and i can wave a big goodbye to my battery
As for IOS getting the latest games i think its because if they release it for iphone it will be a lot easier to implement due to having it on all iphones quickly. Androids problem is that manufacturers nowadays use different components in there phones making it take much more work to develop and application/game for all android devices

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i dont play games on my phone but if the phone in some way reaches my GFs hand then its a different story and i can wave a big goodbye to my battery
As for IOS getting the latest games i think its because if they release it for iphone it will be a lot easier to implement due to having it on all iphones quickly. Androids problem is that manufacturers nowadays use different components in there phones making it take much more work to develop and application/game for all android devices
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Haha mine to :-D
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Because iOS users actually pay for apps, Android side loading makes pirating software do easy that a mentally challenged chimp could do it. There's also an issue of fragmentation and crappy SDK, which makes Android less attractive to devs.

"Apple, have it their way. Android, have it your way."

Hi guys, I found this on the web...
"Many have the saying “Apple have it their way, Android have it your way.” Wrong, Apples mobile operating system needs not to compete with Android as the operating systems top rated UI which never crashes has become the worlds most popular mobile device operating system. The reliability of iOS totally thwarts the unfriendly confusing and crash-prone UI and in general system of Android."
I don't think so.... Android sells 47% of their phones and Apple sells 30% of their phones and the rest are RIM etc....

You only just realized ANDROID RULE
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nztechblog said:
top rated UI which never crashes
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Someone needs to send him that article about iOS apps crashing.
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I think Android is a real difference, apple is just a trend.

dont mind it..the website editor is Apple freak

yeah he is..

Simplicity and stability is iphone...Customisable, amazing, refreshing and evolving is android...I prefer the later

I don't even see them as competing to people to people who know tech, they are too different animals.
In my opinion if you're going to run bone stock and never want to know anything about your phones operating system or customize anything, the iPhone is the way to go, like for old people and stuff. However if you enjoy changing things, high performance hardware and software, constantly pushing the envelope of performance, and having options for configurations and OS versions, Android is definitely the way to go.
Of course we are a very small majority of consumers who buy smart phones, so both companies need to market their gimmicks. But I think for different demographics they both have their advantages. Of course for us on this forum the phones advantages aren't feared towards us.
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True statement: “Apple have it their way, Android have it your way.”
False statement: "top rated UI which never crashes"
We all know it.

Where did you find that crap?
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Read this; it's from a guy who's always used an iPhone 4 and tried a One X for 29 days. Now he's keeping it, and he explains why: http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/13/3082261/29-days-with-android
Great quote:
I've learned that iOS is what Apple wants it to be and Android is, for better or worse, what you make of it.
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apple was exlusive but cant beat android domination
i really enjoy with android .

dodikono said:
apple was exlusive but cant beat android domination
i really enjoy with android .
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carlodalatri said:
I think Android is a real difference, apple is just a trend.
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do agree

Note 10.1 or iPad 4

I'm not sure which one to get android is my favorite but every note 10.1 i try is laggy and stutters. I never owned a iPad but i tried it at best buy and it felt so smooth and fast and the screen was awesome except the screen shape. Does any one own both to tell me your opinion about speed and every day use.
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Dsmforlife92 said:
I'm not sure which one to get android is my favorite but every note 10.1 i try is laggy and stutters. I never owned a iPad but i tried it at best buy and it felt so smooth and fast and the screen was awesome except the screen shape. Does any one own both to tell me your opinion about speed and every day use.
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I have to admit that the note 10.1 ICS is laggy but, the jelly bean update is coming and it's pretty fast, no more lag or stutter. Sorry but this tablet with jelly bean version will be way better than the ipad 4. The pen and multitasking on the tablet is amazing. Im sick of ipad. Just got rid of my ipad 3 and got new note 10.1 and i'm loving it. We are still waiting for Jelly bean update to come.

My Note 10.1 doesn't lag at all on ICS. Though the JC update should have some performance improvements. Some people have already gotten the JB update, but my device (N8010) hasn't yet.

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My Note 10.1 doesn't lag at all on ICS. Though the JC update should have some performance improvements. Some people have already gotten the JB update, but my device (N8010) hasn't yet.
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Yeh, I have to admit I didnt notice any lag on ICS either. Though I came from an ipad1, so maybe thats why!
I'm on a JB rom at the moment (I have an 8010, using an 8000 rom) and it still seems smooth.
Have to say, the reason I got the note was because of the wacom digitiser. If you aren't going to make good use out of it, then the choice would be between the iPad4 or the Nexus10.
If you want to make use of the pressure sensitivity, then the iPad4 is going to be of no use to you.
So depending on what you want to use the tablet for... I'd say your choice should really be between the Nexus or the Note.

drawing
If you enjoy using drawing of any kind I can't reccomend this pad enough. There are a few apps that give professional level art programs. My favorite being tvpainter. They have a free beta that lasts till February. And the fact that wacom helped make the screen was more than enough reason for me to make my decision.

I'm still not sure , the only time I'm going to use the pen is for notes and editing pics. I'm mostly going to browse the web and watch and upload YouTube videos. My brother has the nexus 10 and it not for me the screen is nice but that's about it. I don't like apple but i like how they have lots of apps optimized for tablets when android app are just scaled up phone apps
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If you need to take handwritten notes then you have to get the Note. Otherwise the iPad is a better option.

Again, it's how you use it. Apple is a locked down system. You can only use it to Apples stringent rules... Sure you can jailbreak but then you have to wait for someone to JB the next update or get left behind...
Note 10.1, and Android in general, allows you the option of rooting fairly easily. You can control what you want and how you use it, plug those pesky security risks, and don't kid yourself Apple has them too, and change the ui to what you want. It allows you to put what you need where and make the device yours... Apple is a sterile hospital room in comparison..
I don't know why any tabs you used were stuttery, my experience with the note, ICS and JB, has been fantastic. You need to remember that the demo models in stores are subject to people playing around with them and maxing out the ram usage. Also I know that the stores also load their own app(s) onto the demo models which may cause issues.
ICS was great, JB is phenomenol. I have a 32gb 3G version. I use a 64gb sd card, that's a combined total of 96gb.. Transferring Apps, movies, music and pictures onto the note doesn't require specialised software that has a new update every 2days.
S-pen works wonders, not an artist but I find the s-pen easier to use than the onscreen keyboard. Use handwriting for everything.
And finally, the biggest plus for me was the fact I can make and receive phone calls.... Not using skype or any other 3rd party app but dialling out using my carrier. Not reliant on wifi. I use the bluetooth stylus as its easier to have on me than a headset and I hate sharing my private conversation with the world.....
I have never liked Apple as it is a closed system and there may be an advantage or 2 for that sort of app developement but I can't complain about the apps for Android. You can generally find the same or an equivalent app on Android that you use on IOS.
Essentially the decision is yours, If you are leaning towards Apple, go with it as that's your preference, I don't care as I don't have to live with your decision and you need to go with what you want...

I tried out a note 10.1 in PC world before I bought it. I must have gone in to the store a dozen times, each time the device was extremely laggy and stuttery. I assumed it was because the store devices have demo mode running all the time, plus there were so many apps running that weren't closed down. I got so frustrated in store with the lagyness. But I bought one and it couldn't be more different.....it is really smooth. so it must have been all the crap the store version had running.
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If you're an 'appy' type of guy and want everything to 'just work', pick the iPad 4. But if you're the 'tinker' guy and will find the S-pen useful, of course the Note 10.1 will suit you.
Generally though, iOS is smoother than Android, even with Jelly Bean. This comes from a previous iPad owner, now a Note 10.1 owner. I still kind of miss the iPad. If only the apps on Android tablets are as great as on iOS, then I will not miss it anyway.
Just my 2 cents!

Whats the difference between all Ipad's?.... not a damn thing! Its all the same thing and they call it revolutionary :banghead: yet everyone freaks on them
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Whats the difference between all Ipad's?.... not a damn thing! Its all the same thing and they call it revolutionary :banghead: yet everyone freaks on them
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I just like the tablet optimized apps in the app store. I just ordered the note 10.1. I just wish there was more development and easier ways to mod.
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Whats the difference between all Ipad's?.... not a damn thing! Its all the same thing and they call it revolutionary :banghead: yet everyone freaks on them
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What are the differences between Android tablets (for obvious reasons, we're talking about hardware and tablets of the same family (eg. Tab > Tab 2, TF101 > TF201 > TF300 > TF700))?
Faster/more powerful CPU? More powerful GPU? More RAM? Better camera? Better quality screen? The newer versions of iPads always have some sort of upgrade, hence why people actually upgrade their device. I'm not trying to start a flame-war, but it's clear to me that you're completely ignorant to all things Apple. So my suggestion for you is to stop talking about things that you know nothing about. If you're going to ignore everything about something, you might as well forget that it exists.

Its not only the hardware that's the same with Apple.... IOS promises a host of new features but all it really delivers is a slight improvement, usually a feature that's been available on Android for a few revisions... And this is called "Innovation" whereas Android is then accused of stealing a feature that has been available for a long time....
I don't mind the constant law suits so much as it does push new features and designs out by the companies who probably would rest on their laurels like Apple... However, Apple seems to push the fact that they came up with the idea, they then patent stuff that should have been laughed out of the patent office - really, a rectangular body with rounded corners? I had a Phillips Fizz long before the Iphone ever surfaced and that describes it exactly....
I'm sorry but I thought Innovation and stagnation had 2 different meanings but according to the Apple dictionary they are the same word...

ultramag69 said:
Its not only the hardware that's the same with Apple.... IOS promises a host of new features but all it really delivers is a slight improvement, usually a feature that's been available on Android for a few revisions... And this is called "Innovation" whereas Android is then accused of stealing a feature that has been available for a long time....
I don't mind the constant law suits so much as it does push new features and designs out by the companies who probably would rest on their laurels like Apple... However, Apple seems to push the fact that they came up with the idea, they then patent stuff that should have been laughed out of the patent office - really, a rectangular body with rounded corners? I had a Phillips Fizz long before the Iphone ever surfaced and that describes it exactly....
I'm sorry but I thought Innovation and stagnation had 2 different meanings but according to the Apple dictionary they are the same word...
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I'm not arguing that everything Apple does is innovative or revolutionary. I just find it stupid for people, like jojo1419, to say that all iPads are the same. If people actually believe that iPad 1 = iPad 4, then wow, that's ignorance at its finest, folks.
And yes, Android does have features that iOS is missing, but one thing I LOVED about my iPad was that apps were actually made for the iPad. I love my Note 10.1, but it's irritating to download an app, expect a nice tablet-friendly experience, and seeing an over-sized mobile UI. Maybe I'm just spoiled by the huge amount of tablet-friendly apps in Apple's App Store and should lower my expectations of apps from the Google Play Store.

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I'm not arguing that everything Apple does is innovative or revolutionary. I just find it stupid for people, like jojo1419, to say that all iPads are the same. If people actually believe that iPad 1 = iPad 4, then wow, that's ignorance at its finest, folks.
And yes, Android does have features that iOS is missing, but one thing I LOVED about my iPad was that apps were actually made for the iPad. I love my Note 10.1, but it's irritating to download an app, expect a nice tablet-friendly experience, and seeing an over-sized mobile UI. Maybe I'm just spoiled by the huge amount of tablet-friendly apps in Apple's App Store and should lower my expectations of apps from the Google Play Store.
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So do you still prefer the note over iPad! The only reason I still want the iPad is the tablet apps.
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Dsmforlife92 said:
So do you still prefer the note over iPad! The only reason I still want the iPad is the tablet apps.
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I guess you would have to look at the apps you use and think about whether or not you'd care..?
For me, the things I do on my tablet include (but is not limited to because I may forget things):
-web browsing
-redditing
-note taking
-drawing (I suck at this one, but I like doing it )
-reading (pdfs, ebooks, etc.)
-doing homework sets (physics problems in lecture notes)
-watching stuff (like NetFlix because my desktop uses linux)
The only thing I wish Android apps had was an easy way to connect your tablet to mathematica on your computer or something. I don't want to pay Wolfram any more than I have to so I don't want to buy time on his f*cking servers by using WolframAlpha..
Anyway, my point was that, there is no point here where I would consider Apple to have better "tablet" apps than Android. Mostly because the one thing that MAY be better would be "note apps" except those note apps are usually limited to text or stupid **** that don't apply to the way I want to take notes. But yeah, sure, I guess there are better optimized Angry Birds in the Apple store..?

I agree, alot of people here are total fanboys. Apple may not be the most innovative company, but there innovations are numerous compared to Samsung. For starters maybe the note 10.1 would not even exist if it wasn't for the innovations apple made in the early 90's with the development of the Apple Newton.
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I agree wholeheartedly that Apple got the ball rolling and keep it rolling with their idiotic lawsuits however, Apple as a whole has reached a state of stagnation...
They are slow to add extra features into their hardware and software, are limited in a lot of ways with their software and lock everything down. They are all about control, you do it Apples way or no way. Itunes is a mongrel thing to have to use, and no support for video files except mp4.... Waste of time converting EVERYTHING in my library...
The fact they now, for the iphone 5, decided to change the connector to something that doesn't support the old accessories is a bit of a slap in the face for their loyal customers, at least they could have included an adaptor in the box...
If it had of been to the mini usb like most companies have decided should be the standard for mobile phones, fair enough but it is another proprietry connection...
I know samsung use a different USB 30 pin connector for their tabs but all the phones, tablets weren't included in the agreement, have got the standard mini usb adaptor...
Lets be totally clear here, Apple cornered the market, updated a few things then sat on their laurels until their martket was being threatened by a competitor. They then did a kneejerk reaction and a quick catchup that was still behind the competitor but followed that up with a marketing blitz that wa phenominol to make people believe that they are "Innovative" and that everyone else wasn't. When that seemed to be failing them they decided to slam the competition with frivolous lawsuits for patents that were obviously a massive waste of time...
The last win they had did them more harm than good as they pointed out that the competition was essentially selling the same thing for a lot cheaper and their bottom line will continue to drop now this has been divulged.
I personally know a hard core Apple fanboy who has crossed to the darkside, his girlfriend now has an SGS3 and he went the way of Windows 8 phone... Apple is shooting themselves in the foot by lagging behind in the software and hardware that the consumers want.

ultramag69 said:
I agree wholeheartedly that Apple got the ball rolling and keep it rolling with their idiotic lawsuits however, Apple as a whole has reached a state of stagnation...
They are slow to add extra features into their hardware and software, are limited in a lot of ways with their software and lock everything down. They are all about control, you do it Apples way or no way. Itunes is a mongrel thing to have to use, and no support for video files except mp4.... Waste of time converting EVERYTHING in my library...
The fact they now, for the iphone 5, decided to change the connector to something that doesn't support the old accessories is a bit of a slap in the face for their loyal customers, at least they could have included an adaptor in the box...
If it had of been to the mini usb like most companies have decided should be the standard for mobile phones, fair enough but it is another proprietry connection...
I know samsung use a different USB 30 pin connector for their tabs but all the phones, tablets weren't included in the agreement, have got the standard mini usb adaptor...
Lets be totally clear here, Apple cornered the market, updated a few things then sat on their laurels until their martket was being threatened by a competitor. They then did a kneejerk reaction and a quick catchup that was still behind the competitor but followed that up with a marketing blitz that wa phenominol to make people believe that they are "Innovative" and that everyone else wasn't. When that seemed to be failing them they decided to slam the competition with frivolous lawsuits for patents that were obviously a massive waste of time...
The last win they had did them more harm than good as they pointed out that the competition was essentially selling the same thing for a lot cheaper and their bottom line will continue to drop now this has been divulged.
I personally know a hard core Apple fanboy who has crossed to the darkside, his girlfriend now has an SGS3 and he went the way of Windows 8 phone... Apple is shooting themselves in the foot by lagging behind in the software and hardware that the consumers want.
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Gonna go ahead and play devil's advocate:
Connector: They had the same connector for a DECADE. Micro USB is fiddly and aren't any docks for it because there's no standard so you need *gasp* a proprietary dock for you exact handset! With Apple you could have bought a dock for your iPod 5 years ago and it would still work with your iPhone 4 with the adapter Apple includes with the phone! Can you say that about anything non-Apple? It was time to change the connector and it's nice, and can be used across it's whole ecosystem which is dope. I have a Galaxy Nexus and a Galaxy Note 10.1, I can't purchase a dock for either because Samsung refused to bring them to Canada. I'd have to pay $180 for the Note 10.1 dock from South Korea (including shipping / tariffs / customs) and $90 for the gnex landscape dock. HILARIOUS.
Lawsuit: they won, period. There was written proof that Samsung copied the iPhone. Like everyone else copied the retina display. Like everyone else copied the whole iPad-esque tablet. You think you would have a Nexus 10 without the original iPad? You think you'd have a good smartphone? All-in One PCs? Ultrabooks? These product types always seem to become popular soon after Apple has come out with it. Note that I did not say they were the first to make that type of product, only that other companies seem to get the balls to make sexy stuff right after Apple popularizes it.

First Impression of Android?

What was your first impression of the Android OS? Mine was a paranoid thought of an OS named Android....thinking it would be a form of social control.....
I found out about it from television ads regarding different model cell phones. When I finally saw the UI, my first thought was an iOS ripoff. That seems like such a long time ago. Now I know better and I'm thankful for such a widespread open source OS that is smashing barriers as we speak!
What was your first initial impression?
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My first Android powered phone was a Motorola Defy. Of course I didn't know anything about it, not even how it looked like. First, I thought it was just a weird name for an OS, but now things have changed. I can do just about anything with it. This is what Android is all about!

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First, I thought it was just a weird name for an OS, but now things have changed. I can do just about anything with it. This is what Android is all about!
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Well said!
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It was awesome, so much possibilities, apps, customizing options,... but then I rooted my android phone, flashed newer android versions and had a lot of fun doing it. Android is awesome.

Before using it, I thought it was microsoft's attempt to compete with apple's os.

I've always wanted to have any Android device but when I got it... I felt disappointed. Why? Because Samsung just forgot about my phone and I didn't get any upgrade! And then I found xda and just fall in love with Android OS
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Pattttti said:
I've always wanted to have any Android device but when I got it... I felt disappointed. Why? Because Samsung just forgot about my phone and I didn't get any upgrade! And then I found xda and just fall in love with Android OS
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The same here, if i had to stay with gingerbread it would not have been so awesome as it is now.

Exactly! And in fact - I'm flashoholic now
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Pattttti said:
Exactly! And in fact - I'm flashoholic now
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Lol......yeah me too.....my name is Chris and I'm a flashoholic
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Very serious case of flashoholism in my case.

Freedom in all ways...

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Very serious case of flashoholism in my case.
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Lol....but in all seriousness....once I quickly learned what Android was like, it blew me away. I was totally turned off of the iOS when I received an iPod touch in December of 2009. I'll admit the device itself was pretty cool (hardware wise) and seemed "high tech" to me at the time. The UI was smooth and the display was bright and clear.
After that initial "wowness" wore off it was time to get down to business with one of the aspects of the device, playing music files. I quickly learned that the files had to be in the .aac format which was a little irritating but after some reading I learned that I would have to download the iTunes PC application for music conversion and other tasks. Finally downloaded the PC application and learned I would HAVE to input a credit or debit card number to set up an iTunes account to get free apps. At that point I knew nothing about newer gadgets. So I got rid of the iPod because I refused to enter in that information.
Android on the other hand is not like that, mp3s play, real free software w/o strings attached and a lot more options!
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Lol....but in all seriousness....once I quickly learned what Android was like, it blew me away. I was totally turned off of the iOS when I received an iPod touch in December of 2009. I'll admit the device itself was pretty cool (hardware wise) and seemed "high tech" to me at the time. The UI was smooth and the display was bright and clear.
After that initial "wowness" wore off it was time to get down to business with one of the aspects of the device, playing music files. I quickly learned that the files had to be in the .aac format which was a little irritating but after some reading I learned that I would have to download the iTunes PC application for music conversion and other tasks. Finally downloaded the PC application and learned I would HAVE to input a credit or debit card number to set up an iTunes account to get free apps. At that point I knew nothing about newer gadgets. So I got rid of the iPod because I refused to enter in that information.
Android on the other hand is not like that, mp3s play, real free software w/o strings attached and a lot more options!
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i absolutly not want to enter the nest of a discussion about andoid and ios, i own both, i preferr android, so much prefer it, but to my mother i will always give an iphone if i have to chose. but about what you said about file format-itunes-app store account issue, i can tell you by experience that any ipod and ios device plays mp3. i'm listening an mp3 right now from my iphone. yes you need itunes to upload music to any apple device, it is irritting but is their way to say "i sell your music dear musician and also protecting them from illegal reproduction on my device" butyou can add any mp3 without itunes asking anything. also you can, as i have done, deactivate the convertion to aac, and set convertion to mp3 or also to not convert new files added to library. last thing i have credit card just from this year, and own my iphone by near 2 years, and i have downloaded plenty of free apps without giving any credit card number, when it ask just hit, as on google play, add credit card later!
this said the way android works in this aspects is better for me, and probably overall. but what you said was not completly true.
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first impression on my Galaxy S Plus: crap it's damn slooooowwwww! then discovered xda! and turned it to crappy samsung software to always better and better custom rom! thanks guys to redefine android as it should be! :laugh:

dagothe9 said:
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i absolutly not want to enter the nest of a discussion about andoid and ios, i own both, i preferr android, so much prefer it, but to my mother i will always give an iphone if i have to chose. but about what you said about file format-itunes-app store account issue, i can tell you by experience that any ipod and ios device plays mp3. i'm listening an mp3 right now from my iphone. yes you need itunes to upload music to any apple device, it is irritting but is their way to say "i sell your music dear musician and also protecting them from illegal reproduction on my device" butyou can add any mp3 without itunes asking anything. also you can, as i have done, deactivate the convertion to aac, and set convertion to mp3 or also to not convert new files added to library. last thing i have credit card just from this year, and own my iphone by near 2 years, and i have downloaded plenty of free apps without giving any credit card number, when it ask just hit, as on google play, add credit card later!
this said the way android works in this aspects is better for me, and probably overall. but what you said was not completly true.
Back to topic:
first impression on my Galaxy S Plus: crap it's damn slooooowwwww! then discovered xda! and turned it to crappy samsung software to always better and better custom rom! thanks guys to redefine android as it should be! :laugh:
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I wish I would've known some of that when I had the device lol. Like I stated earlier, at that point in time I didn't know hardly anything about newer gadgets of the time.....I was used to old Palm Pilots and such. When I finally got a color screen pda early in 2009 I thought it was super high tech because for one it actually had color and two, it had WiFi but it was already 3 years out of date!
Oh well, who knows, if I would have kept the iPod I might've turned into an Applenaut but instead found Android. Maybe the correct way of saying it is Android found me.
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guitarman2010 said:
I wish I would've known some of that when I had the device lol. Like I stated earlier, at that point in time I didn't know hardly anything about newer gadgets of the time.....I was used to old Palm Pilots and such. When I finally got a color screen pda early in 2009 I thought it was super high tech because for one it actually had color and two, it had WiFi but it was already 3 years out of date!
Oh well, who knows, if I would have kept the iPod I might've turned into an Applenaut but instead found Android. Maybe the correct way of saying it is Android found me.
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We had experiences with the iPhone 3G and wow it was pretty great. Then one of us got the Galaxy S Captivate and it was really great as well. Data with HSPA+ just blew the iPhone away; no contest. And now we have this Apple vs Android battle all over the globe but when we started playing around with Android Dev boards (BeagleBoard for example) and with mainline Linux vs Android, the opportunities for communities to just tear open the commercial market are pushing mobile computing in such a great direction.
The turning point for us was being able to take a microSD with android putting it into the BeagleBoard, having it run; and then subsequently taking it out, putting another microSD card in it this time with Linux compiled for ARM with Arch Linux. At that point, we saw Android in a completely different light. I mean the plug and play abilities of those peripheral drivers alone...having that kind of device knowing that the backing to it is largely a Linux device kind of instills a level of confidence in both security (by the nature of open source whistle blowers) and in performance. Can't wait til Android becomes more than just a phone/tablet OS...give us more Android watches, Android clocks, Android cars; perhaps not in it's current implementation, but a derivative thereof. I personally will take Android and everything it stands for over Apple products that we can't tinker with.

Flexible and customizable :good: but laggy and unstable... :bad:

etrosce said:
Flexible and customizable :good: but laggy and unstable... :bad:
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Personally I blame the OEMs. If done right, Android would be no different in lag/latency down to the low level code than a well built JVM on top of a Linux kernel. But as a consumer...I agree; it is unfortunate that Android is subject to bad software design and to make it worse, Android is open to bad design down to the implementation of the SDK.
Overall though I think I would rather encourage Android to get cleaner than Apple to get more open.

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What was your first impression of the Android OS? Mine was a paranoid thought of an OS named Android....thinking it would be a form of social control.....
I found out about it from television ads regarding different model cell phones. When I finally saw the UI, my first thought was an iOS ripoff. That seems like such a long time ago. Now I know better and I'm thankful for such a widespread open source OS that is smashing barriers as we speak!
What was your first initial impression?
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in all honesty i was blown away by the change in everything (came from apple)

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I personally will take Android and everything it stands for over Apple products that we can't tinker with.
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I will agree with you on that comment. Apple's iOS brings thoughts of claustrophobia to my mind lol
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(off-topic)apple's first android phone

all know that apple is the world's most famous, loved and reliable company. Has great fan following but when i consider or even think of b s we uying an IDEVICE....i think of loosing all the customization and tweaks i use to do with my own samsung device......i purchased Galaxy note2 few months back and if i compare it now in market, there are almost 5 devices which look exactly same as my Galaxy note2, and how can i forget the build quality(cheap plastic **** all over them).
Being a hardcore gamer i purchased a quadcore device thinking i would be able to play all games(earlier i had tab2 dual core) but now question arises is AM I HAPPY WITH GAMING EXP.?
certainly not. There are lot of title which are not on android and also here THD games into the picture costly galaxy devices doesn't support THD titles but how cum all these are playable on IDEVICES? We all know this but without any lags unbelievable
IOS VS ANDROID less extreme
customization ''
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less very high
tweaks and fun
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highy stable less ''
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less devs lot ''
choice to work ''
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samsung- keeps cheating apple and increasing sales and earning a lot.
apple- crying and suing samsung
Court-no result
apple vs samsung big fight but apple don't cheat....lol....who cares people want quality this is what samsung does
don't u guys think its the time to return the favour back and apple should take a big step and launch its first android device
like htc did, they are lauching windows as well as android devices playing on both's sides
WHO CARES? MONEY AND CUSTOMERS SATISFACTION SHOULD BE THE FIRST PRIORITY.
MY QUESTIONS
will this ever happen?
If yes u are ready to buy such device?
Nice Quote:never get too attached to things(IOS) otherwise up will get outdated
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I'm very curious how games developed for Tegra devices work on iOS.

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all know that apple is the world's most ... loved ... company
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Absolutely incorrect, not at all the world's most loved company at all. Everyone hates the fact that they can get away with releasing the same thing each year with the same 5-year-old OS and no innovation and still make the best-selling phone of the year.
No, Apple will never release a device with Android. That's completely absurd. It would be like Microsoft announcing their new Surface which runs Ubuntu out of the box.
Now, I don't actually know what the point of this thread is but the entire bit in the middle is a bit difficult to understand, maybe you could try a different translator?
Finally, the reason games work smoother on iOS is because of app optimisation. It helps that the iPhone has a great GPU but the main reason is that devs only have to optimise their apps for a small range of phones on the App store whereas the apps on the Play store have to work for hundreds of different phones with different chipsets. You get things like Tegra optimised apps but not much more.

Originally Posted by AbhimanyuAryan
all know that apple is the world's most ... loved ... company
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Absolutely incorrect, not at all the world's most loved company at all. Everyone hates the fact that they can get away with releasing the same thing each year with the same 5-year-old OS and no innovation and still make the best-selling phone of the year.
No, Apple will never release a device with Android. That's completely absurd. It would be like Microsoft announcing their new Surface which runs Ubuntu out of the box.
Now, I don't actually know what the point of this thread is but the entire bit in the middle is a bit difficult to understand, maybe you could try a different translator?
Finally, the reason games work smoother on iOS is because of app optimisation. It helps that the iPhone has a great GPU but the main reason is that devs only have to optimise their apps for a small range of phones on the App store whereas the apps on the Play store have to work for hundreds of different phones with different chipsets. You get things like Tegra optimised apps but not much more.
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I tried to create a comparision b/w Android and iOS but since xda apk auto arranges the text it looks like a mess..... by the way what do think people will buy apple running android (if situation)
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AbhimanyuAryan said:
I tried to create a comparision b/w Android and iOS but since xda apk auto arranges the text it looks like a mess..... by the way what do think people will buy apple running android (if situation)
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