I was reading up on the new Firefox OS. Are any of the devs thinking about experimenting with it on the SGS4G?
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That IS a pretty crazy idea.
With the way that firefox updates, I would be scared to have to support it.
Luckly, Android doesn't update so often, but imagine. Having to support maybe 10 releases from just 3 months!?!
Idk, I think I'll stick with android for now
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With the way that firefox updates, I would be scared to have to support it.
Luckly, Android doesn't update so often, but imagine. Having to support maybe 10 releases from just 3 months!?!
Idk, I think I'll stick with android for now
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Well its HTML5 based so it would be a huge jump in code from Android.
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Well its HTML5 based so it would be a huge jump in code from Android.
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Not intended as a dig or to doubt your conclusions, but how do you see it as a "huge jump" from Android? If you mean "huge difference from working with" Android, I understand. If you believe it is significantly better than Android in certain ways, I'm curious as to what those are.
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Not intended as a dig or to doubt your conclusions, but how do you see it as a "huge jump" from Android? If you mean "huge difference from working with" Android, I understand. If you believe it is significantly better than Android in certain ways, I'm curious as to what those are.
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I was speaking in terms of programming languages. I don't see a huge jump in performance.
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Well I think is an great idea (personally) so I just grab my old HTML5 book and learn Java and CC+ probably when the OS is out there are going to be a lot of updates (knowing Firefox) but I like the idea anyway
How about you just buy a windows phone or just install firefox
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Excuse me for the ignorance, but what would work on an HTML5 OS, from what we have on Google play?
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the difference indeed is that Android works with Java(UI), C (core) and C++(third-paty stuff) but the Google Play Store is made with HTML5 now the new Firefox Os it is going to be made fully with HTML5 and maybe other stuff which I really havent search hope that helps your question
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Yea I know webos is "better" os but has no apps and no onscreen keyboards.
So my question is can it be done, not if or why but can it be installed. Android
already runs on omap and I think the moto droid is simular.
Hm. I seem to be using an on-screen keyboard on a daily basis. And... No apps? Ehm. Well, I think maybe you should just switch to an Android phone and save some time, ours as well
Eventually hackers will become restles and get other platforms booting on the Pre, but for now web OS suffices.
The point would really to be to boot WebOS on other phones, not the other way around!
Oh i have no doubt that that will happen too, but hackers being hackers curiosity will get the better of them,
Mark my words, once HP release their X86 web OS platform you will start seeing it on every device imaginable.
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The point would really to be to boot WebOS on other phones, not the other way around!
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That's like saying can I put Ios on a pre
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I remember there being a small project on this before, but it didn't go very far. The funny thing is, there was a project to get Android on omap ( https://gforge.ti.com/gf/project/omapandroid/ ), but then the Droid with an omap SoC came out.
I would also love to see WebOS 2.0 on non HP/Palm Phones like HTC HD2 or Nokia N900
These phones are very good to port different OS on them.
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Sorry this is not meant to
as i know, there already have such kind of project, i've seen on a chinese forum before.
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i've found the url in my computer's browsing history, but the content is Chinese:
treo8.com/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=202448
unfortunately, the author said for
some personal reasons, he has to suspend the development for about a month.
in his thread, he also mentioned that he had put his work on google code, however, it's still chinese
so if you need i'm glad to translate it into english, but i'm also busy with my bachelor thesis and have mobile network only, maybe not so fast
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The point would really to be to boot WebOS on other phones, not the other way around!
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I agree 100% but with webOS 2.0 or greater.
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I agree 100% but with webOS 2.0 or greater.
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agree too, but the core codes of webos
is not open, so it may not be that easy
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you can check that
http://www.precentral.net/android-dual-booted-pre-hardware
But pre lacks the menu,home,back keys
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But pre lacks the menu,home,back keys
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The pre has a touch sensitive interface, and if anything you can put those buttons on the screen.
why dont u just have both phones i got an apple and a android phone
http://forums.precentral.net/other-handhelds/278450-android-pre-5.html#post2940959
but it didnt work on mine
if anyone wants to experiment with a palm pre. i have one that is not in use, it's for sprint. And yeah, i would love to see webOS on other phones, would love to be able to dualboot my g2 with android and webos.
http://brobuffet.com/2012/06/10/open-source-ios-clone-yes-please/
A team of developers claim they can bring the experience of Apple's iOS to general hardware. Imagine being able to run it on your Android
It'd probably get slapped by an apple lawsuit lol
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It'd probably get slapped by an apple lawsuit lol
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LOL Right in the middle hahahaha
Isnt that what MIUI is essentially? Or is this going to be a completely rebuilt from scratch.
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Isnt that what MIUI is essentially? Or is this going to be a completely rebuilt from scratch.
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Miui isn't open.
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I don't know if this is for real or not, but you might wanna check this out:
http://bootdroid.blogspot.com
They're supposedly working on a similar project.
So it's basically open source TouchWiz?
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No this is a project built from Apple's darwin os and runs on top of a Linux kernel. Miui is just a modified Android ROM. This has nothing to do with Android, apart from the fact that there's a chance that roms will be available based upon this.
I think it would be amazing to see this running. I doubt most people would use it everyday. I mean, we buy Android phones for a reason right? But it would be fun to test.
This will probably not be much like iOS in terms of UI design.
Sure it'll be the same when it comes to the kernel and other low-level stuff, but they probably won't venture into the suefield and go full on UI clone
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This will probably not be much like iOS in terms of UI design.
Sure it'll be the same when it comes to the kernel and other low-level stuff, but they probably won't venture into the suefield and go full on UI clone
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Well lets hope that somebody does go on to make the full UI clone. If they can produce the low-level things then why not?
True about the suefield, but it normally doesn't stop people.
What does this actually have to do with Android? There's no mention of being Android-based. This belongs more on iPhone-developers.
People with iPhones already have the iOS experience. They wouldnt need a clone. But some of us Android users might be interested to know that a port may be coming out on other hardware.
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Sounds like it would be an enormous undertaking without much benefit.
We already have an open-source mobile OS, and it has the flexibility to be modified to imitate other OS's - the WP7 theme/interface for Android looks pretty good.
If people really want something like iOS on non-Apple phones then it is probably best to follow a similar approach: modify Android rather then build a whole new mobile OS.
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What does this actually have to do with Android? There's no mention of being Android-based. This belongs more on iPhone-developers.
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It is not based on android, however the libs are being hacked to support android devices.
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First, Apple are suing the hell out of Android so it probably won't last long anyway
Now no flash support either?? One of the only things Android had over Apple is gone.
Might as well just get a phone that does the same thing and looks much better (instead of every Android phone just getting bigger and uglier)
P.S. this doesn't go without a big F**K YOU to Adobe as well :good:
Edit: okay, I can't bring myself to buy any Apple product other than an OG iPod, so I might just get a Nokia 3310...
They won't be able to do much outside the US where the patent system isn't so messed up. I'm sure Android will live, but if not in the US, then imported. Although I doubt it will die in the US anyways.
Also, you must have lived under a rock for a very long time. Adobe Flash is an extremely old technology. It is a 19 year old goddam technology and its STILL being updated! This is just a small part of the transition to HTML5
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They won't be able to do much outside the US where the patent system isn't so messed up. I'm sure Android will live, but if not in the US, then imported. Although I doubt it will die in the US anyways.
Also, you must have lived under a rock for a very long time. Adobe Flash is an extremely old technology. It is a 19 year old goddam technology and its STILL being updated! This is just a small part of the transition to HTML5
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thanks for the reply
what I mean is, I know Flash is old (and sucks, and has always sucked and been buggy/the main cause of browsers crashing, etc..) but now Android 4.0.x won't support Flash at all
There is a workaround but it involves installing DolphinHD web browser or something
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There is a workaround but it involves installing DolphinHD web browser or something
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Which isn't a problem at all, and you should do this anyway because it's (one of) the best browser(s) for Android.
1 - Apple isn't doing **** about Android its mostly Samsung hardware, android is going no where.
2 - current ics has flash plus all u need to do is Download an apk for flash to work on jelly bean.
3- most android phones look totally different
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3- most android phones look totally different
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Unlike all iOS phones. They all look the same.
Might want to give WP8 a shot.
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thanks for the reply
what I mean is, I know Flash is old (and sucks, and has always sucked and been buggy/the main cause of browsers crashing, etc..) but now Android 4.0.x won't support Flash at all
There is a workaround but it involves installing DolphinHD web browser or something
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Get your facts straight killer. 4.0.anything still supports flash...Adobe is just not updating the app. Not a big deal since sites are going away from flash, so a further update should not be needed. You can sideload flashplayer (can be found NUMEROUS places on XDA) onto any android version. I am currently running 4.1, and flash works just fine. Just because you read it on the internet doesn't make it true...
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Get your facts straight killer. 4.0.anything still supports flash...Adobe is just not updating the app. Not a big deal since sites are going away from flash, so a further update should not be needed. You can sideload flashplayer (can be found NUMEROUS places on XDA) onto any android version. I am currently running 4.1, and flash works just fine. Just because you read it on the internet doesn't make it true...
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I was thinking the same thing, but the fact I upgraded my SXE to 4.0.3 and now, even though Flash is installed it says "this site requires flash" on every flash site that worked beforemakes it true.
That Act I would describe something as "Somebody put fire on his/her house in fear of rats"....lol....
A patent infringement suit for something like 'Rectangular shape with rounded corners' ( even if they belieive they invented it- if search internet u will see there were products with that shape before ipad) or tap to call if its a phone number is not Andorid OS's core...
If u check here u can see there were not only claims by apple but also against apple too.. They also violated many n settled even with nokia n cisco etc...
Even brand iPhone was Cisico's before Apple , i believe they had only 'i'. They had Voip phone with that brand name... Now they go all over Android phone companies for small small claims coz their butts gets heated up when sitting on those big cupertino seats watching the growth of Android phones....
Even their much hyped 'Siri' is being laughed at...
http://youtu.be/grmixtB9dZM?hd=1&t=3m14s
Edit : Flash issue is a matter of time when HTML5 support built into the browsers . Adobe said on announcement that HTML5 is here as it supports flash
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1 - Apple isn't doing **** about Android its mostly Samsung hardware, android is going no where.
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Apple was just awarded 25 patents on iOS for things like pinch to zoom and notification bar so they will most likely now come after android. Check the thread its ridiculous
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Apple was just awarded 25 patents on iOS for things like pinch to zoom and notification bar so they will most likely now come after android. Check the thread its ridiculous
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Notification bar? NOTIFICATION BAR??? You mean the one that was on Android since 1.5 cupcake and iOS blatantly copied in iOS 5 is now theirs???
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Notification bar? NOTIFICATION BAR??? You mean the one that was on Android since 1.5 cupcake and iOS blatantly copied in iOS 5 is now theirs???
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Well transparent or disappearing notification bar to be more precise. Basically everything about the touch screen based user interface though yes.
Here's the link check it out. Bananas.
http://rootzwiki.com/news/_/articles/apples-latest-patents-could-spell-doom-for-android-r977
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How can they say they invented touch screen n pinch gesture even those technologies date back to even 1982-83.... its like siri , the technology they aquired, but they intvented lol
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Well transparent or disappearing notification bar to be more precise. Basically everything about the touch screen based user interface though yes.
Here's the link check it out. Bananas.
http://rootzwiki.com/news/_/articles/apples-latest-patents-could-spell-doom-for-android-r977
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No need to worry. On June of this year 6 US Senators teamed up to address the mobile technology patent situation. To make a long story short, they said that patents like this need to fall under FRAND...meaning Apple has to license them under reasonable terms. They are saying that once these features hit the market, they are considered standard essential. For example...a touch screen. If a judge says no one can use a touchscreen because apple has it patented, in theory, no other smartphone will offer competition..therefore apple has to license it out. Also, be wary of what you read in those kinds of articles, especially on rootzwiki. It is written by someone who volunteered to write for them and has no real journalism or reporting experience.
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My One S arrived... it's too damn sexy to send back lol
i have been blabbing and shouting about samsung going for its own OS. But most people here were like android is the big fish its free and found saying that samsung cant ditch royalty free android. I have noticed there move when they let the cyanogen community leave the exynos so easily.
Tizen is what i heard is the upcoming open source os by samsung. I knew the way samsung was growing the influence of TW on its phones.
It will be both good and bad for samsung to manage the updates google free and can be free from the limitations. But on the other hand ita development might be slow because of just one vendor putting it on their phones.
So instead of android becoming samsung. Samsung made its own android.
Tech keeping pace.....
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Is it something like Samsung becoming like Apple?
Samsung as a hardware Manufacturer so far so good. But as a developer of complete OS, I am not sure. What happens to 100s and 1000s of Android applications?
Edit: Google must have sailed 7 rough seas and moved 7 tough mountains to make android what it is now. (still it could not make it's presence on desktops)
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Well soon google will realize the mistake of going complete open source. I have also mentioned this to google before to make some properitery libs in the android regarding security issues. But google didnt listen. Now android should meet its competition.
Seems like now android wont have the best of the best hardware rather samsung will bring it on its own os. Thats why maybe they saved the flexible display and didnt plan to put it on s4.
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It will be a very sh1tty OS like bada i hate. I working a hundred or more phones monthly (in a service center since 5 years) and i can say that Samsung is the worst software developer company. All Samsung platform in the past was simple, as simple as crap. Todays Samphones (smart ones) are very good but they using other companies software as base. I still think Bada is a dead end sorry if there are bada lovers in here. Android has some years behind and its a real benefit. Finally sorry for my bad English knowledge.
I really doubt Samsung will launch an own OS; What could happen would launch an Android-based OS, but with another name.
Ugh.. Thisll be like badda os.. BAD OS!!! :/
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Have a Wiki read about the upcoming OS : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tizen
Using meego samsung is trying to do what nokia should have done... I always appreciate the good work. If they come up with something better i will definitely go and get it.
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I hope I am reading the wiki wrong becouse it sure looks like a HTML5 based app sdk. Web based apps might look good on paper for developers that want easy porting but from a user experience perspective they just suck compared to native.
I will concede that Enlightment libraries are very efficient and fast, though.
My question is, do users really need yet another mobile OS?
bada+meego
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android will do very well while it is being developed
who knows after that.
unfortunalby it's a near future for android being less used by companies, just look at Firefox OS wich is in the cloud completely(i'm not really comfortable with this idea tough.) and now samsumg... i just hope they don't fall in the WebOS failure it was...
phone networks in many countries wont support cloud based operating systems. It would require far too much bandwidth. Alot of countries,? especially poorer countries, still don't have fully 3g networks.
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phone networks in many countries wont support cloud based operating systems. It would require far too much bandwidth. Alot of countries,? especially poorer countries, still don't have fully 3g networks.
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Thats absolutely true. Bandwidth is a real issue. But the real deal is that one has to cope with the advancements. Lack of resources cant hinder the development.
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here all the phone networks use edge for their mobile internet. Good luck with that one. It might be possible for a cloud phone specifically designed for use in parts of the US and western Europe. But outside that its going to fail compared to native apps. Poor countries can barely maintain their existing networks let alone pump millions into upgrading networks for just one os
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The Ubuntu Mobile will kick all the OS's a bit back.
I am also positive for ubuntu. But the one thing i didnt understand is why ubuntu is so late in grabbing the phone platform.
the success of any new os is only if they allow the existent device to switch to their OS and not just the upcoming phones. Thats the only way they can grab a bigger marketshare.
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Ubuntu hasn't really been ready for a release to the average user yet.
The X.org display server alone is a huge problem, it kinda sucks, with the Wayland display server being developed there's more of a hope.
That and the fact Ubuntu in general is pretty awful to manage; every version since 10.04 has seen me go more and more into the terminal because settings in the GUI just vanishes or becomes more obscure.
Truth is the average user has no interest in using the terminal, except for various simple copy/paste'able commands.
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The Ubuntu Mobile will kick all the OS's a bit back.
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LOL Ubuntu. Keep dreaming mate.
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Im also thinking that the ubuntu will get some success jn mobile platforms. The main advantage in the ubi is the linux kernel. I would not be surprised if it can run android apk-s like BBX.
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LOL Ubuntu. Keep dreaming mate.
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Too true.
As much as I think they're on to something with that, I'm not sure they've got even a clue how they'd get to Android style adoption.
Has anyone seen or read about the ubuntu os that will be releasing for the nexus? I wonder if it could be ported to the S3 or have some android/ubuntu hybrid?
Either way I think this will shake some things up a bit.
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It is not coming out for the nexus Canonical just used the phone to demo its OS. They are planning to release the source code for devs to play with. They are also planing To sale ubuntu smartphones soon.
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Has anyone seen or read about the ubuntu os that will be releasing for the nexus? I wonder if it could be ported to the S3 or have some android/ubuntu hybrid?
Either way I think this will shake some things up a bit.
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I don't think there will be a need to port the device as it seems like it will able to run on all devices. I wouldn't call Ubuntu for android smartphones an OS until they officially release it as it seems more like something that runs along side android and allows the user to use the docked phone as a PC. Even on the Ubuntu website they state
Newer multi-core processors are up to the job, and Ubuntu is the killer app for that hot hardware. It’s the must-have feature for late-2012 high-end Android phones.
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Even on their website they refer to whatever they are releasing as an app. It appears that Ubuntu for our phones will be more like a multi-tool with the ability to do a TON of stuff, like some sort of super app.
It would be nice to be able to finally compile kernels on the device itself and ditch the need for a 'real' computer altogether.
Well super app or not I think it will be cool to run at least for a few days.
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Definitely looks impressive! Hope to be able to test it out soon!
In interviews they made it clear it is far from ready with a lot of core functionality still missing. Also if you watch the videos of hands-on it is pretty slow and lags.
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In interviews they made it clear it is far from ready with a lot of core functionality still missing. Also if you watch the videos of hands-on it is pretty slow and lags.
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Agreed. It is far from release, and I doubt we will ever see it on an S3. I wouldn't even expect to see an official device until next year.
I agree with OaklandZoo. Ubuntu on a phone sounds great but with the first phones not coming out until next year I don't think it will ever make it to the S3.