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I am looking for developers to develop a ROM for the HTC Shirft or the Samsung 7in Tablet from Sprint that dual boots Ice Cream Sandwhich and Webos.
Both OSes on the device would be sweat
Abyss19707 said:
I am looking for developers to develop a ROM for the HTC Shirft or the Samsung 7in Tablet from Sprint that dual boots Ice Cream Sandwhich and Webos.
Both OSes on the device would be sweat
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Personally i like Webos. But about 70% of others don't. most likely because of it's lack of customization and apps. It would be nice to see the dying OS ported to other devices to give it new life, but don't get your hopes up.
The devs simply don't seem to be too interested in porting Webos to other devices.
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Personally i like Webos. But about 70% of others don't. most likely because of it's lack of customization and apps. It would be nice to see the dying OS ported to other devices to give it new life, but don't get your hopes up.
The devs simply don't seem to be too interested in porting Webos to other devices.
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I know it is sad for lack of support but Webos fans will support this. A person on one of the Webos forums is trying to wire the HTC Shift to work with the touchpad's charging dock, so there is still hope!
WebOS isn't open source yet, that's why nobody is porting it. -_-
It's not open source YET, but in a few month it will be and I'm hopeful that some devs will port it on other devices then.
The are two things I'm a bit worried about is webOS for other phones. Since I read a blog post which was all about the open source plan of HP I afraid that only the Touchpads 3.x webOS will be open sourced.
The other thing is the maybe missing feature of using gestures on phones. I mean webOS is all about gestures and I love to use my Pre3 with these gestures and the special gesture area, cause it's easy to use and superfast. But when ported on a phone, let's say a Galaxy S2, will there be gestures or does the user have to use the stupid buttons?
the enyo framework stuff was released today.
lovenokia said:
the enyo framework stuff was released today.
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Where are you developers and porters?
Grave digging this thread but I'm curious as well. Love the WebOS. Would be highly interested if it was portable to Skyrocket. Yes, I would do that to my skyrocket.
I own a touchpad
T4L0n said:
Grave digging this thread but I'm curious as well. Love the WebOS. Would be highly interested if it was portable to Skyrocket. Yes, I would do that to my skyrocket.
I own a touchpad
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I would do that to my skyrocket too. It be nice to have gestures and simplicity WebOS. There's a mod out there http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhpnlyBb6xI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I may try to port it to my skyrocket. It would be a fun project. Do you think there would be enough people to use it?
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I may try to port it to my skyrocket. It would be a fun project. Do you think there would be enough people to use it?
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I would!
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I would!
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i would too
My vote is to port it to a device with a massive user base, such as my SGS2, or an HD2. I still play with my Pre- and it sits on my coffee table. After reading The Verge post mortem I understand why it died, but it still is the best UX hands down. Imagine it running on blazing fast hardware, but I wonder how much is lost without a keyboard?
It seems that everyone has move on from webOS within the android community (well, almost everyone). I am one of the die hard fans of the OS and continue to use it daily. Of course, my needs for an OS are different from many , and I come from a solid Linux/Unix background. I have used palm products for years and followed webOS from the beginning. There are times when I come off like a fanboi for webOS but it has seemed to be an elegant solution for true multi tasking from the beginning. I hear most folks here talking of the untimely demise of webOS and cannot help but wonder if they have decided not to follow the development of Open WebOS. The community edition of webOS is due out in Sept and there are a number of major improvements coming with it. There is also the Phoenix project which may be building another tablet running the open source WebOS.
For those who have moved on from webOS and are satisfied with android, I bid you fair well. I will continue to work within the webOS community and look forward to future development. For those who are still on the fence, I would suggest a bit of patience as there are good things in the future of webOS and this fall really isn't that far off. Whichever OS you choose, remember that the touch pad that you have is still one of the few dual boot tablets on the market and (for those who were not early adopters) was purchased for a reduced price that would be hard to match by any other tablet manufacturer. The hardware is still pretty good compaired to most all dual core tablets and is still able to run cutting edge android builds. This alone would be a good argument for sticking with the touch pad but I stick with it for the things it continues to do well within webOS.
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I want to install Android OS on Palm Pixi Plus.
Can any one help for the same.
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HazzaBlake said:
Personally i like Webos. But about 70% of others don't. most likely because of it's lack of customization and apps. It would be nice to see the dying OS ported to other devices to give it new life, but don't get your hopes up.
The devs simply don't seem to be too interested in porting Webos to other devices.
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I remember when I had my pre you could place your phone in dev mode (root) by a simple dialer code reboot and itd be unlocked then you can install preware and from there install anything you want. I remember patches that added lots more functionality to the OS. Much simpler than android
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I remember when I had my pre you could place your phone in dev mode (root) by a simple dialer code reboot and itd be unlocked then you can install preware and from there install anything you want. I remember patches that added lots more functionality to the OS. Much simpler than android
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I'll buy the lack of apps argument, but customization? Kiddin' me? Installing Preware couldn't be any easier if they tried. Only Windows Mobile was easier than webOS.
I would defiantly try it on my skyrocket.
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Ideally webOS that could run Android apps would be great. The UX on webOS is second only to Windows Phone IMO, but webOS needs the app power of Android.
I had a Pre+ for a weekend but after the third time swapping it out because of hardware problems, I gave up on it. The hardware was always the problem. They should have had HTC manufacture it like the Treos.
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I'd run it on my X8 I like the look of WebOS and nearly bought a PalmPre when they were released!
It would be great to see a revival of the software
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today i found that ubuntu will bring out a version for android.
This thread is for discuss this:
here is the link http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
here is a video
http://www.youtube.com/v/AyeFcldavTk
I wonder if we could tweak it somehow to work with legacy devices too .
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I wonder if we could tweak it somehow to work with legacy devices too .
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I don't see the point of this. It's no different than the Atrix thing.
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I don't see the point of this. It's no different than the Atrix thing.
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Except that it's actually a fully-functional OS. Anything that you can do on Ubuntu, you will now be able to do on your phone. This gets us much closer to having a truly pocket-sized computing device.
Pretty cool. Only issue I had was it was incompatible with some programs and some drivers I needed were funky or I would have stayed on Ubuntu instead of jumping back to win 7. Keep up the good work!
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Canonical says the "code is available for end users" though it will require quite some expertise to pull it off. I assume the biggest challenge is getting X to work natively with the phone, but if they can do it, and the code is available, I'm sure it's only a matter of time until someone on this forum gets it working, and boy am I excited! I want this now!
I have yet to see anyone with the code though.
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I don't see the point of this. It's no different than the Atrix thing.
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With Atrix, you'll need their Motorola's "Web top" to run it, but with this, u just need only a TV with HDMI supported to turn your TV to a desktop PC, but still there is some limited though.
According to their site
"so it is easy to integrate into current production roadmaps. The hardware requirements are straightforward and, with a broad range of ARM and x86 hardware supported, it can realistically be added to phones already in development."
It's clearly there is something to do during development process before launching the phone. but I still hope someone can find a way to put this on previous devices too.
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Except that it's actually a fully-functional OS. Anything that you can do on Ubuntu, you will now be able to do on your phone. This gets us much closer to having a truly pocket-sized computing device.
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Yes, but given that it's a phone how much can you really do?
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With Atrix, you'll need their Motorola's "Web top" to run it, but with this, u just need only a TV with HDMI supported to turn your TV to a desktop PC, but still there is some limited though.
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That's a fair point. I was looking at the software only.
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Yes, but given that it's a phone how much can you really do?
That's a fair point. I was looking at the software only.
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I have seen Ubuntu (and its derivatives) run just fine on a computer with a 1.2GHz dual-core processor and 512MB of RAM. It will run OpenOffice just fine, Thunderbird just fine, Chrome just fine, and synaptic (package manager) just fine. No, you won't have all the processing power of a real desktop system but it will be plenty for doing light work (word processing, email, web browsing, maybe light photo editing in GIMP). It will be far more useful than Motorola's little webtop experiment.
And it won't just be a larger display for a mobile OS - it will be a fully functional desktop Linux OS, and completely hacker friendly. This is an exciting prospect!
I want this right now, but I don't have a dual core phone :/ Hopefully by the time my upgrade comes around at the beginning of next year, this will be the norm!
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Wow.. cool!
So...
How's this thing going?
Thought i'd refresh this thread.
1. I have a Galaxy S2 and ran Ubuntu 12.04 on it, using "Complete Linux Installer" (Google Play). The official XDA thread is called "Linux-on-Android [...]" , It's a chroot, VNC connection. I made a video demo from boot till shutdown: www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSId7rzybCk
2. Does anyone know of some working native X for this, for any device at all?
3. There's this concept phone "Nexphone" running "Ubuntu for Android". They're trying to make a prototype with money from Indiegogo: www.indiegogo.com/nexphone but i guess the crowd won't pay them 1 mil. dollars to pull it off.
Ubuntu will pull this off. I'm just not sure how successful it will be.
In any event, I'll be installing it as I run Ubuntu systems anyway.
nice concept
The concept is great and useful in many ways. Maybe we will see an available version of this sometime.
crancker said:
The concept is great and useful in many ways. Maybe we will see an available version of this sometime.
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Eventually yes. Phones are getting more powerful too. Quadcores are just starting to come out now.
Ubuntu Edge
Just making sure that everybody's heard, that the bird is the word !
Here's Ubuntu Edge, a Phoneputer, which features Android, Ubuntu Phone and Ubuntu for Android!
Link to Indiegogo campaign: http://igg.me/at/ubuntuedge/x/4047467
So, the news spreads fast. The first phone to get it will be GNex. Hoping developers will make me (and many others) happy and let us give it a try...
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone
This raises a question right away in my head: Why? Whats the point?
We already have a working linux-based, open source OS - Android
Luckily, Ubuntu is supported from our HTC One S. So when the Ubuntu's image for Galaxy Nexus will be released, which good developer will take/port it to our phones ? On web people say that will be very easy port/take Ubuntu's Image for Galaxy Nexus to Mobile Phones with 1GB of Ram and Dual Core.
This would be awesome because Ubuntu doesnt give a **** about the Java vm and we could have native apps like wp8 and ios
Gonna follow this thread. Interesting !
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This raises a question right away in my head: Why? Whats the point?
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So that you can have a different version for every chipset and phone with incompatible drivers and incomprehensible instructions, just what the Linux community love.
"You want to what? make a phone call? that functionality won't be available until version 10.0.4.9.6.3.1 spangly-sugababe on your chipset."
Goatshocker said:
This raises a question right away in my head: Why? Whats the point?
We already have a working linux-based, open source OS - Android
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I didn't understood the answer above, so here's mine - because Android is far from a pocket PC, in what will Ubuntu turn it in. And for all the people who know why they are here - "curiosity" and experimenting is the right answer.
This looks good for people who don't use many apps.. Which allows the clean interface.. Maybe good for the older crowd.
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seozone said:
This looks good for people who don't use many apps.. Which allows the clean interface.. Maybe good for the older crowd.
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Yeah, android started a few years ago with 3000000 apps in the store
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having a full OS is nice, docking it and connecting to a monitor will transform your phone in a Desktop PC but, unfortunatelly, at least for now the system is veeery laggy and they don't have any release plans till 2014, by then Android and iOS will evolve even more and the 'need' for this kind of OS will no longer exist. Just MHO.
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sudo apt-get install angry_birds
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The following files are incompatible with Angry Birds and will be uninstalled.
Kernel
File system
Troute said:
The following files are incompatible with Angry Birds and will be uninstalled.
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Lol I love seeing some people who know Linux. While we giggle at these jokes others are like "huh?" Lol.
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The thing is, unless they plan on only releasing it on x86 devices, the compability will be terrible. So you will have a full desktop OS, with no "easy" way to install programs.
Its the same as Win8 ARM-version. Its not like you can install PC-games on it etc...
I really dont see the point in bringing in another mobile OS at this point. Android and iOS have had years to develop within the communities, and both OS's hosts a huge amount of apps.
The only thing android is missing for being a "laptop replacement", imo, is better multitasking, and ability to run every app in a small window instead of fullscreen (like OverSkreen and AirCalc).
And, of course, a taskbar to quickly change between windows.
Implement those things and I'll throw my laptop out of the window lol.
It will be compatible with both ARM and x86. And if it is using the resources more wisely - then give it to me. I miss many of the PC OS's functions on Android. And if Android one day gets windowed style apps - it will need 16GB or RAM and 24 core CPU and a truck sized battery to feed this.
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And if Android one day gets windowed style apps - it will need 16GB or RAM and 24 core CPU and a truck sized battery to feed this.
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No it wont.
Edit: well obviously if you insist of having 10 million programs open at once like on a PC, then yes.
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It will be compatible with both ARM and x86.
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Ah but which ARM chips? if it's anything like the support for current ARM products it will be only a very small selection of devices and even then getting it to work on a device with this graphics chip and that camera will be a difficult task, but that's for devs to worry about. What joe public will see is every phone with a completely different GUI and no 'standard' between them, which is what manufacturers want, so they can tie us into their own product line as per IOS.
Somebody posted elsewhere that Samsung were going to come up with their own OS, I disagreed but if Linux Mobile becomes a reality I may be proved wrong.
They said that will use even the same drivers as android. Both are linux based. So don't worry. Just wait, if you aare interested.
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Ubuntu will run fine. If it's something you're interested in having then it didn't be a long wait. Rumor was the image for the nexus would be out real soon. So if some good devs still working on the one s wanted to they could get it going in our phones.
I'd like to run Ubuntu on my phone only because I use it on my pc and its so nice and light. Boots fast and is so light weight
Hope we get to taste it real soon!
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I am looking forward to this as well can't wait to run it. I'm a big supporter of the Ubuntu software.
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Hey guys,
Ubuntu on mobile phones:
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone/design
I personally think it's a win for Android. Since Android is always behind the mainline Linux kernel, now with Ubuntu being optimised for ARM devices, the kernel drivers will be in line with the main Linux kernel. That could possibly mean that phones like the Sensation could always be kept up to date as Android is a forked distribution of Linux.
This is all strictly hypothetical of course and it may not bear to fruition.
On a side note Ubuntu on mobile does seem pretty awesome, especially the gesture based controls.
So what are your thoughts guys?
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The promised land indeed - the unfied and homogeneous environment from smartphone to cluster.
And it looks beautiful - fair play. Bare back Android still looks like a school project to me.
Will be interesting to see which of the OEMs get on board. But it could be just what HTC need to differentiate themselves again.
Edit: Clever so and so's, common drivers mean it shouldn't be long till we see some ports. I for one will have a phone with it on from day one. Definitely.
Apparently the source will release Q4 2013 so we could possibly build it for our sensations as the kernel is not much different to our android kernel. I honestly can not wait because there's no dalvik vm running so it could essentially work lag free.
The future is coming where everything is tied into one OS. However I doubt htc will release a phone with an unlocked bootloader. Manufacturers like Samsung and Sony will possibly capitalise on Ubuntu with their unlockable bootloaders
Edit: Eliminate lag on Android: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
This confirms my thoughts about the dalvik vm. It's the Dalvik VM which is the main cause of lag on Android. Now with Ubuntu having no virtual machine, it should run with near to no lag!
Ubuntu on Sensation sounds amazing, although I might not be using this phone around Q4 2013, shame really...
I personally preferred ubuntu for android (it was plug ur android phone into a dock then use it as Ubuntu computer). But I guess an Ubuntu phone is cool too, and always welcome any new platforms to the market, getting some fresh blood
I can't wait
Just out of curiosity, are there any developers in the sensation world that think they'd be up to porting this when it become available? I would love to see this come to the Sensation.
How exactly will it be diffrent from andoid in terms of performance?
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How exactly will it be diffrent from andoid in terms of performance?
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Tons. Expect the scrolling and general touch interface to be as smooth as an iPhone or windows phone. (To the haters, you simply cannot deny that that android has some lag to it, no matter the phone). I think this is the only OS out there that can compete with android and iPhone simply because of the desktop OS concept, which is brilliant and exactly what most people would love to have if the app market picks up for it. Only time will tell though.
is anybody, who try it?
Exactly, Android will have some degree of lag due to the Dalvik VM. It's Ubuntu which has the possibility having little to no lag at all.
And to the poster above, Ubuntu still hasn't been released yet on any phones
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Apart from all the great and obvious advantages that this poses, I'm worried that phone networks will still try and bloat up the phone with all their branding and rubbish.
As long as you have terminal, anything is possible
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Apart from all the great and obvious advantages that this poses, I'm worried that phone networks will still try and bloat up the phone with all their branding and rubbish.
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They can't put anything on a phone that I can't take off.
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NeoSilky said:
Apart from all the great and obvious advantages that this poses, I'm worried that phone networks will still try and bloat up the phone with all their branding and rubbish.
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Where's there's a will, there's a way. XDA has proven that time and again in the smartphone world
I'm stoked for Ubuntu, but you guys saying lag for all Android devices haven't spent much time with a Nexus 4...
I'm definitely going to switch to this if it becomes available for the sensation.
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I'm definitely going to switch to this if it becomes available for the sensation.
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+1
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I'm stoked for Ubuntu, but you guys saying lag for all Android devices haven't spent much time with a Nexus 4...
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One of my friends has it, and have played with it quite a bit. But I'm sorry, it still doesn't compare to an iPhone in terms of smoothness. The only thing that compares is a windows phone.
Very nice i hope bring to sensation
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One of my friends has it, and have played with it quite a bit. But I'm sorry, it still doesn't compare to an iPhone in terms of smoothness. The only thing that compares is a windows phone.
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Not buy'in it. I've played with 3GS, 4 and 4S, and the N4 is snappier than all 'ovem. Project Butter was a total success, and Android finally tore that smoothness monkey off its back. IOS is slow now, by comparison.
So Ubuntu announced some new stuff for us yesterday.....
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone
22 min video http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cpWHJDLsqTU
At the 21 minute mark he says if your phone works with Android then it will work with Ubuntu.... I wonder how that process will work. I also am interested in how to get all our awesome Android apps working too. Another problem will be the lack of video out for us... Anyways, discuss!!
I myself am getting pretty excited about this, I wasn't planning on getting a new phone til the flexible phones came out but this is big news! I might even trade for a Nexus if the dock is small and portable. I wonder how quick it will be ported to our phone?
I'm very excited myself. However in a few months I leave on a LDS mission and will be out with no tech. For 2 years. So I'll only hope this gets put on our phone
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ZDNet had a nice article on it but it sounds like it will be an option for the manufactures to offer than a ROM to port.. Ubuntu offers an arm version that you can install and run from within android and that works great, it already works WITH android, this would basicly be an option for the carrier to provide, at Ubuntu there is a link to get their assistance in building ubuntu for specific devices if someone with more time wants to chase it a little. it would be pretty awesome tho.
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Yea I think they chose the galaxy nexus because there is full source release instead of the nexus 4. I am hoping that wont be too much of a problem and we can just mod the original release and it wont be too much of a problem. I'm pretty sure android stuff will work with it too, just we will have to download an emulator or some sort. I'll be keeping an eye on this one...