today i found that ubuntu will bring out a version for android.
This thread is for discuss this:
here is the link http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
here is a video
http://www.youtube.com/v/AyeFcldavTk
I wonder if we could tweak it somehow to work with legacy devices too .
drive2droad said:
I wonder if we could tweak it somehow to work with legacy devices too .
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I don't see the point of this. It's no different than the Atrix thing.
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I don't see the point of this. It's no different than the Atrix thing.
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Except that it's actually a fully-functional OS. Anything that you can do on Ubuntu, you will now be able to do on your phone. This gets us much closer to having a truly pocket-sized computing device.
Pretty cool. Only issue I had was it was incompatible with some programs and some drivers I needed were funky or I would have stayed on Ubuntu instead of jumping back to win 7. Keep up the good work!
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Canonical says the "code is available for end users" though it will require quite some expertise to pull it off. I assume the biggest challenge is getting X to work natively with the phone, but if they can do it, and the code is available, I'm sure it's only a matter of time until someone on this forum gets it working, and boy am I excited! I want this now!
I have yet to see anyone with the code though.
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I don't see the point of this. It's no different than the Atrix thing.
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With Atrix, you'll need their Motorola's "Web top" to run it, but with this, u just need only a TV with HDMI supported to turn your TV to a desktop PC, but still there is some limited though.
According to their site
"so it is easy to integrate into current production roadmaps. The hardware requirements are straightforward and, with a broad range of ARM and x86 hardware supported, it can realistically be added to phones already in development."
It's clearly there is something to do during development process before launching the phone. but I still hope someone can find a way to put this on previous devices too.
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Except that it's actually a fully-functional OS. Anything that you can do on Ubuntu, you will now be able to do on your phone. This gets us much closer to having a truly pocket-sized computing device.
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Yes, but given that it's a phone how much can you really do?
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With Atrix, you'll need their Motorola's "Web top" to run it, but with this, u just need only a TV with HDMI supported to turn your TV to a desktop PC, but still there is some limited though.
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That's a fair point. I was looking at the software only.
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Yes, but given that it's a phone how much can you really do?
That's a fair point. I was looking at the software only.
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I have seen Ubuntu (and its derivatives) run just fine on a computer with a 1.2GHz dual-core processor and 512MB of RAM. It will run OpenOffice just fine, Thunderbird just fine, Chrome just fine, and synaptic (package manager) just fine. No, you won't have all the processing power of a real desktop system but it will be plenty for doing light work (word processing, email, web browsing, maybe light photo editing in GIMP). It will be far more useful than Motorola's little webtop experiment.
And it won't just be a larger display for a mobile OS - it will be a fully functional desktop Linux OS, and completely hacker friendly. This is an exciting prospect!
I want this right now, but I don't have a dual core phone :/ Hopefully by the time my upgrade comes around at the beginning of next year, this will be the norm!
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Wow.. cool!
So...
How's this thing going?
Thought i'd refresh this thread.
1. I have a Galaxy S2 and ran Ubuntu 12.04 on it, using "Complete Linux Installer" (Google Play). The official XDA thread is called "Linux-on-Android [...]" , It's a chroot, VNC connection. I made a video demo from boot till shutdown: www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSId7rzybCk
2. Does anyone know of some working native X for this, for any device at all?
3. There's this concept phone "Nexphone" running "Ubuntu for Android". They're trying to make a prototype with money from Indiegogo: www.indiegogo.com/nexphone but i guess the crowd won't pay them 1 mil. dollars to pull it off.
Ubuntu will pull this off. I'm just not sure how successful it will be.
In any event, I'll be installing it as I run Ubuntu systems anyway.
nice concept
The concept is great and useful in many ways. Maybe we will see an available version of this sometime.
crancker said:
The concept is great and useful in many ways. Maybe we will see an available version of this sometime.
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Eventually yes. Phones are getting more powerful too. Quadcores are just starting to come out now.
Ubuntu Edge
Just making sure that everybody's heard, that the bird is the word !
Here's Ubuntu Edge, a Phoneputer, which features Android, Ubuntu Phone and Ubuntu for Android!
Link to Indiegogo campaign: http://igg.me/at/ubuntuedge/x/4047467
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Didn't see this anywhere, if it is sorry. This would be awesome though. I love android but ububtu if done correctly would be awesome.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/ubuntu-linux-heads-to-smartphones-tablets-and-smart-tvs/9834
(let's hope a couple of trolls don't jack this thread with "let's hope they don't steal from apple like android" or some other android hater rants.)
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I'm interested in this too!
That could be interesting. I'm a long time Ubuntu user but I recently stopped using it due to Gnome 3 / Unity- really not my cup of tea. I remember thinking at the time that it was better suited to smaller screens/tablets, so maybe that was the plan all along
Don't know how close android is to linux, think it uses a linux kernel, but it would be awesome if it could use android apps like I think blackberry's playback.
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I've kinda lost faith in them since the 11.10 update. But maybe they will redeem themselves.
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Of course.
I am already trying to get Ubuntu (console version) running on my already existing mobile phones.
For phones they would need to create a suitable gui and phone apps of course (phone book, dialer, etc.). Could be nice.
Don't see Ubuntu on my smartphone but it'll be awesome to install it on tablet.
This looks awesome! I can't wait to see the final product.
Looks nice, a good mobile Linux build not made by Nokia... Epic. I know many who want a real Linux phone.
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I've kinda lost faith in them since the 11.10 update. But maybe they will redeem themselves.
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i hate ubuntu 11.10.
and ubuntu would be cool on a phone. they would have to cut a deal with a phone company in order to do it, however. and HTC, samsung, LG... etc... they are already running a linux OS with android. it will be a long time before it is mainstream, and it would not have google supporting it (which would obviously have pros and cons) but i would stick with android simply because it is what i am used to at this point. ubuntu is more of a developer platform and it would basically just be bare bones on a phone. no market, hardly any apps, etc... it wouldn't give me the same experience i would want on a phone.
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I've kinda lost faith in them since the 11.10 update. But maybe they will redeem themselves.
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You can change unity (the Ugly UI) with other things. XFCE & KDE are booth good choices.
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I hope ubuntu can take the lead of Meego and bring something good for real. Having a real linux with X11 is so practical. At lest for me.
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You can change unity (the Ugly UI) with other things. XFCE & KDE are booth good choices.
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I hope ubuntu can take the lead of Meego and bring something good for real. Having a real linux with X11 is so practical. At lest for me.
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Oh no i am fine with the ui. Well not so much for it to be the reason I am disappointed. I am disappointed because the update brought many bugs and the system got slower, Atleast for me. It's just not efficient or functional as it should have been.
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And please bring freedom to our phones:
free to install any other operating system / mod
open bootloader of course
no way to brick it by flashing something wrong (simply as you can not brick your computer by installing linux)
Me too that is what open source is about anyway.
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Oh no i am fine with the ui. Well not so much for it to be the reason I am disappointed. I am disappointed because the update brought many bugs and the system got slower, Atleast for me. It's just not efficient or functional as it should have been.
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I suggest you go with Archlinux or Gentoo (if you got more time) and no more you need to wait for upgrading your distro. Simple update and you are done.
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I suggest you go with Archlinux or Gentoo (if you got more time) and no more you need to wait for upgrading your distro. Simple update and you are done.
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Thanks for the answer. But I just downgraded back to 11.04 when I experienced 11.10.
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Thanks for the answer. But I just downgraded back to 11.04 when I experienced 11.10.
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Well, good luck in whatever you pick
bagers said:
And please bring freedom to our phones:
free to install any other operating system / mod
open bootloader of course
no way to brick it by flashing something wrong (simply as you can not brick your computer by installing linux)
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There's so much fail in this post. OS's are dependent on supported hardware, so you'll never have total freedom on OS choice. Bootloaders are always opened up within a month or two of a device being released, private party or otherwise. And yes, you can "brick" your PC if you are a numbskull and improperly load an OS or wipe critical files, it's just much simpler to recover. Phones lack an external keyboard, cd-rom drives, etc, so loading external recovery media or getting to a recovery point is more difficult.
FYI: One reason why carriers don't like users messing with mobile devices is because the majority are on contract extensions, so basically you pay a lowered subsidized cost on the phone in return for your business. This means that they have a vested financial interest in your mobile device. PC's, you buy outright. You don't go under contract to buy a new PC (except for credit card or financing, but they don't care what you buy, you just need to pay back).
As far as Ubuntu mobile, it's a great idea, but it's a pipe dream for at least the next 5 years. There's just too little support and mainstream use for that, and you have Ubuntu backing it, not "household" names like Google, Apple, Microsoft, etc. PC's is a completely different target market than mobile devices.
more recent ubuntu isn't coded for armv6 but runs on armv7.
I read anything from lucid on up is only for armv7 or better.
my armv6 optimus v does a lovely job of running the full desktop armel debian squeeze (or sid) in a chroot; it just needs hardware drivers to straight-up boot debian instead of running it with android at the same time.
it wouldn't be that hard to release it as a mobile os, except for the proprietary drivers on all the different phones and tablets.
i hope we can install it on older WinMo hardware
So, the news spreads fast. The first phone to get it will be GNex. Hoping developers will make me (and many others) happy and let us give it a try...
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone
This raises a question right away in my head: Why? Whats the point?
We already have a working linux-based, open source OS - Android
Luckily, Ubuntu is supported from our HTC One S. So when the Ubuntu's image for Galaxy Nexus will be released, which good developer will take/port it to our phones ? On web people say that will be very easy port/take Ubuntu's Image for Galaxy Nexus to Mobile Phones with 1GB of Ram and Dual Core.
This would be awesome because Ubuntu doesnt give a **** about the Java vm and we could have native apps like wp8 and ios
Gonna follow this thread. Interesting !
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This raises a question right away in my head: Why? Whats the point?
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So that you can have a different version for every chipset and phone with incompatible drivers and incomprehensible instructions, just what the Linux community love.
"You want to what? make a phone call? that functionality won't be available until version 10.0.4.9.6.3.1 spangly-sugababe on your chipset."
Goatshocker said:
This raises a question right away in my head: Why? Whats the point?
We already have a working linux-based, open source OS - Android
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I didn't understood the answer above, so here's mine - because Android is far from a pocket PC, in what will Ubuntu turn it in. And for all the people who know why they are here - "curiosity" and experimenting is the right answer.
This looks good for people who don't use many apps.. Which allows the clean interface.. Maybe good for the older crowd.
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seozone said:
This looks good for people who don't use many apps.. Which allows the clean interface.. Maybe good for the older crowd.
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Yeah, android started a few years ago with 3000000 apps in the store
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having a full OS is nice, docking it and connecting to a monitor will transform your phone in a Desktop PC but, unfortunatelly, at least for now the system is veeery laggy and they don't have any release plans till 2014, by then Android and iOS will evolve even more and the 'need' for this kind of OS will no longer exist. Just MHO.
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The following files are incompatible with Angry Birds and will be uninstalled.
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The following files are incompatible with Angry Birds and will be uninstalled.
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Lol I love seeing some people who know Linux. While we giggle at these jokes others are like "huh?" Lol.
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The thing is, unless they plan on only releasing it on x86 devices, the compability will be terrible. So you will have a full desktop OS, with no "easy" way to install programs.
Its the same as Win8 ARM-version. Its not like you can install PC-games on it etc...
I really dont see the point in bringing in another mobile OS at this point. Android and iOS have had years to develop within the communities, and both OS's hosts a huge amount of apps.
The only thing android is missing for being a "laptop replacement", imo, is better multitasking, and ability to run every app in a small window instead of fullscreen (like OverSkreen and AirCalc).
And, of course, a taskbar to quickly change between windows.
Implement those things and I'll throw my laptop out of the window lol.
It will be compatible with both ARM and x86. And if it is using the resources more wisely - then give it to me. I miss many of the PC OS's functions on Android. And if Android one day gets windowed style apps - it will need 16GB or RAM and 24 core CPU and a truck sized battery to feed this.
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And if Android one day gets windowed style apps - it will need 16GB or RAM and 24 core CPU and a truck sized battery to feed this.
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No it wont.
Edit: well obviously if you insist of having 10 million programs open at once like on a PC, then yes.
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It will be compatible with both ARM and x86.
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Ah but which ARM chips? if it's anything like the support for current ARM products it will be only a very small selection of devices and even then getting it to work on a device with this graphics chip and that camera will be a difficult task, but that's for devs to worry about. What joe public will see is every phone with a completely different GUI and no 'standard' between them, which is what manufacturers want, so they can tie us into their own product line as per IOS.
Somebody posted elsewhere that Samsung were going to come up with their own OS, I disagreed but if Linux Mobile becomes a reality I may be proved wrong.
They said that will use even the same drivers as android. Both are linux based. So don't worry. Just wait, if you aare interested.
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Ubuntu will run fine. If it's something you're interested in having then it didn't be a long wait. Rumor was the image for the nexus would be out real soon. So if some good devs still working on the one s wanted to they could get it going in our phones.
I'd like to run Ubuntu on my phone only because I use it on my pc and its so nice and light. Boots fast and is so light weight
Hope we get to taste it real soon!
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I am looking forward to this as well can't wait to run it. I'm a big supporter of the Ubuntu software.
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Has anyone seen or read about the ubuntu os that will be releasing for the nexus? I wonder if it could be ported to the S3 or have some android/ubuntu hybrid?
Either way I think this will shake some things up a bit.
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It is not coming out for the nexus Canonical just used the phone to demo its OS. They are planning to release the source code for devs to play with. They are also planing To sale ubuntu smartphones soon.
ricecake2000 said:
Has anyone seen or read about the ubuntu os that will be releasing for the nexus? I wonder if it could be ported to the S3 or have some android/ubuntu hybrid?
Either way I think this will shake some things up a bit.
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I don't think there will be a need to port the device as it seems like it will able to run on all devices. I wouldn't call Ubuntu for android smartphones an OS until they officially release it as it seems more like something that runs along side android and allows the user to use the docked phone as a PC. Even on the Ubuntu website they state
Newer multi-core processors are up to the job, and Ubuntu is the killer app for that hot hardware. It’s the must-have feature for late-2012 high-end Android phones.
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Even on their website they refer to whatever they are releasing as an app. It appears that Ubuntu for our phones will be more like a multi-tool with the ability to do a TON of stuff, like some sort of super app.
It would be nice to be able to finally compile kernels on the device itself and ditch the need for a 'real' computer altogether.
Well super app or not I think it will be cool to run at least for a few days.
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Definitely looks impressive! Hope to be able to test it out soon!
In interviews they made it clear it is far from ready with a lot of core functionality still missing. Also if you watch the videos of hands-on it is pretty slow and lags.
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In interviews they made it clear it is far from ready with a lot of core functionality still missing. Also if you watch the videos of hands-on it is pretty slow and lags.
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Agreed. It is far from release, and I doubt we will ever see it on an S3. I wouldn't even expect to see an official device until next year.
I agree with OaklandZoo. Ubuntu on a phone sounds great but with the first phones not coming out until next year I don't think it will ever make it to the S3.
So now we have to decide what will be our daily drive Ubuntu for Phones or our Android OS..?
Already here we have the first beta ports of Ubuntu for Phones for our Nexus S..
Tell me what you think..
Ubuntu as soon as it becomes stable and smooth! But only the full version of course, the demo is nice for a...... demo..... I guess!!
mikekir97 said:
So now we have to decide what will be our daily drive Ubuntu for Phones or our Android OS..?
Already here we have the first beta ports of Ubuntu for Phones for our Nexus S..
Tell me what you think..
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This is only a developer preview Won't able to daily use.
btw, when canonical realise the full version and the team port it for us, i will change our green friend as for sure!
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This is only a developer preview Won't able to daily use.
btw, when canonical realise the full version and the team port it for us, i will change our green friend as for sure!
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I know that Ubuntu for phones is on development on the Nexus S.. that's why I made the post in the first place to find out the obvious.... ;p lol.. everyone will run Ubuntu when the Full release is out..
Ubuntu R' Us
I concur. If and when Ubuntu Mobile becomes stable enough, I would also make the migration to Ubuntu. Android is so last year's OS
I prefer android
Don't see why I would run a computer OS with a touch interface on top on my mobile device. I'd rather use an OS made for mobile from the start...
Honestly don't really give a dime about running computer programs on my phone.
When you don't have a notebook and you're on vacation or so you could use the hotel TV and your phone as a full computer. Makes sense to me..
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MarcPlusTwo said:
When you don't have a notebook and you're on vacation or so you could use the hotel TV and your phone as a full computer. Makes sense to me..
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Doesn't seem like it would be the most common thing to happen to the most of us, though.
The Nexus S is already under-powered enough I can't see it lasting very much longer, even less so running a computer OS with any sort of decent fluidity/usability.
Its more than that,its your phone to a whole different level! Come on guys you got to agree,its going to change things in industry once people relize capabilities. And you have the best of both android and Linux!
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Its more than that,its your phone to a whole different level! Come on guys you got to agree,its going to change things in industry once people relize capabilities. And you have the best of both android and Linux!
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Sure, whatever, but not on this phone. It's not going to revolutionize anything on a phone you can't connect to a monitor/TV and that is already having difficulties running Jellybean...
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Its more than that,its your phone to a whole different level! Come on guys you got to agree,its going to change things in industry once people relize capabilities. And you have the best of both android and Linux!
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polobunny said:
Sure, whatever, but not on this phone. It's not going to revolutionize anything on a phone you can't connect to a monitor/TV and that is already having difficulties running Jellybean...
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first it's not on top of android it uses the blob to migrate the drivers and that is all second you do know that the cpu in the nexus s is more powerful than people thing???
i can run linux with emulation with no lag imagine it native
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first it's not on top of android it uses the blob to migrate the drivers and that is all second you do know that the cpu in the nexus s is more powerful than people thing???
i can run linux with emulation with no lag imagine it native
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Who said it was on top? You have reading comprehension issues. Jellybean already runs roughly enough on the Nexus S. There's no difference between a Linux distro and Android you know, except the later is greatly optimized to run on phones/tablets.
Besides, other than for Android, please point me to an example where Linux has even a remotely great market share with end users. Surprise, it doesn't! Even with Ubuntu being the latest fad for people wanting to pickup on Linux, it's still a tiny shard in the ocean of Windows and Mac OSX.
when it receives Android apps support, the first thing i would do is to get rid of Android and flash in Ubuntu. Until then, I would say android is my choice.
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Who said it was on top? You have reading comprehension issues. Jellybean already runs roughly enough on the Nexus S. There's no difference between a Linux distro and Android you know, except the later is greatly optimized to run on phones/tablets.
Besides, other than for Android, please point me to an example where Linux has even a remotely great market share with end users. Surprise, it doesn't! Even with Ubuntu being the latest fad for people wanting to pickup on Linux, it's still a tiny shard in the ocean of Windows and Mac OSX.
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Who cares if it's still a tiny shard, people want option and it's nice that we have distro's like Ubuntu and FirefoxOS that you can install on Android smartphones. I think the majority of people willing to try this out want something different for a change.. Maybe people don't care about mainstream operating systems anymore, maybe they want something less-mainstream that stands out from the crowd.
Just looking to poll people to see if they still find value in these Windows RT App ports.
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Just looking to poll people to see if they still find value in these Windows RT App ports.
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Still finding value for ports since I just downgraded back to 8.0... Until 8.1 is jailbroken I am still interested in 8.0..
Heck yes. You're doing amazing work and benefiting the entire community with it.
One program I would like ported is the game Osu! It is perfect for tablets and I wish it was ported to the RT platform.
Unfortunately no. I have ported few apps myself but after seeing lack of interest/lack of appreciation for my work I decided to give up. Not that I need constant praise for what I do and call me dork but I like the feeling that time and effort I put into something result in things that matters to anybody. Unfortunately Windows RT homebrew scene(that's how I call that "desktop apps on Windows RT movement") didn't get of the ground, nobody seems to care, just look at this forum. Someone had to say that.
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Unfortunately no. I have ported few apps myself but after seeing lack of interest/lack of appreciation for my work I decided to give up. Not that I need constant praise for what I do and call me dork but I like the feeling that time and effort I put into something result in things that matters to anybody. Unfortunately Windows RT homebrew scene(that's how I call that "desktop apps on Windows RT movement") didn't get of the ground, nobody seems to care, just look at this forum. Someone had to say that.
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Im pretty sure there are quite a bit of people who care. Don't expect recognition from the work you've done. Just be glad you made an app that someone can use. Don't ruin it for the people who want more programs ported to the RT platform.
MS is still locking windows rt.desktop app for windows rt is game over.next time I prefer atom based tablet.I will say good bye to metro only device.
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Unfortunately no. I have ported few apps myself but after seeing lack of interest/lack of appreciation for my work I decided to give up. Not that I need constant praise for what I do and call me dork but I like the feeling that time and effort I put into something result in things that matters to anybody. Unfortunately Windows RT homebrew scene(that's how I call that "desktop apps on Windows RT movement") didn't get of the ground, nobody seems to care, just look at this forum. Someone had to say that.
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For what it's worth, I think what you're doing is awesome. I haven't had a chance to try qupzilla due to my tablet being in various states of disarray, but I have used FileZilla, Synergy, and I played around with your Quake 3 port.
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For what it's worth, I think what you're doing is awesome. I haven't had a chance to try qupzilla due to my tablet being in various states of disarray, but I have used FileZilla, Synergy, and I played around with your Quake 3 port.
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You have mistaken me with bfosterjr. I'm responsible for some other ports.
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You have mistaken me with bfosterjr. I'm responsible for some other ports.
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My bad, I misread the username who posted it.
As far as what I see you've posted, I believe all I've used was PrBoom.
That being said, doing any ports (especially games, those draw people in) is a great help to the community, and I'm sure that others greatly value the work you're doing. I know I do.
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That being said, doing any ports (especially games, those draw people in) is a great help to the community....
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Agreed. I've noticed that the most download ports have been Quake and Quake 2. Sadly, a bit of the hype died down by the time the DX9 runtime was found and Quake3 was ported. I realize they're not "ground breaking games".. but they're probably the most influential games which just _need_ to be ported before the platform gets any attention. I know early on there was an effort to have a package manager idea floated around to more easily allow people using the Jailbreak to more 'easily' get apps. I'm wondering if something like that would help boost interest again? Any other ideas?
I've certainly noticed a decline in interest the last couple months. I wasn't sure if people lost interest in Jailbroken related apps.. or if Windows RT is just dying a slow death in general. Hence the poll. I've certainly got more apps I'd like to port.. but it does take significant effort sometimes.. and there only seems to be few others contributing apps.
I dont own an RT device but I do love seeing the work that you guys put in to make this platform viable. I dont see myself getting an RT device until they are substantially cheaper than their x86 counterparts and either microsoft pull the chokes out so we can have unregulated access to run our own applications or I can have linux on it and neither of those are likely to happen. Linux on there would be very attractive to me personally.
The work you guys do though is probably the only thing keeping RT useful. I love the idea of RT, but its been poorly executed. In my opinion for RT to be successful it needs to be the full windows 8 experience on ARM, no limitations for drivers and software, OpenGL (well ES would be an acceptable limitation given the hardware) and the whole shebang.
I think MinGW for ARM will probably help the scene a little more. Once its out there then thats a huge ecosystem of software which might well be portable to run on the RT. Even better would be MinGW for ARM running on ARM but I think with MinGW being able to compile itself that its a given you will have that.
I'm still interested, but it is diminishing over time - running 8.1 now so no JB, using the device more and more as an actual productivity device and less as a fun hacking toy, more apps available, etc...
I've not done any ports in a while (real life cutting into hack time) but I did a couple. Was very fun
bfosterjr said:
Just looking to poll people to see if they still find value in these Windows RT App ports.
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Especially since mamiach's newly uncovered hole in Asus VivoTabs, it seems like an 8.1 exploit will be feasible in the future once 8.1 is officially finalized. So your ports are just as valuable as ever - thanks a ton for all your hard work!
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killer app
so.. to the ~10% of you that said we're missing a killer app..
Whats the killer app?
bfosterjr said:
so.. to the ~10% of you that said we're missing a killer app..
Whats the killer app?
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Chrome.
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Chrome.
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GoodDayToDie was attempting chromium (open source chrome) but my understanding is that it was a huge code base for him to try himself.
Pretty much, yep. I'm going to try again with the new release that's based on their new engine. Some stuff, like the sandbox, still will not work; I'm not going to re-write all their API hooking assembly in THUMB-2 until I find myself way lower on number of projects than I have right now - and for the first release I'm also going to probably go with interpreted JS instead of JIT compiled, so it will be a lot slower. Most of the other features (screw NaCl) should work, though.
I am super grateful for the work you guys have put in. I imagine MiniGW is hindering the breadth of things that can be ported. I know the game I am looking for Ultrastar Deluxe (Open Source Singstar) would get a heap of use from me if I could get it on the Surface RT.
another "killer-app" would be VLC-Player With all These super codecs